Pathetic.

>>31229382
So is Hyper Beam/Hakai Kosen Kukui's BURASTO BAAN?

>>31229382
Kukui never states that he lost to Lance.

>>31229902
Yes he does. Right outside the League entrance after the Hau battle.

>>31229902
yes he does

>>31229382
lance is pretty difficult t b h
i beat him in ss by 19hp on my slowking, and would have lost if he broke through confusion

>>31229959
>>31229965
didn't he only mention a dragon trainer in a cape? clair could've leveled up.

>>31230014
Clair is in johto remember?

>>31229959
>>31229965
No he doesn't. Go watch it again on YouTube. He literally does never say that he lost. That's an implication the idiots at Bulbapedo has made up for themselves.

>>31230030
johto and kanto are interchangeable in anything League related
you could get 4 johto badges and 4 kanto badges and challenge the league

>>31230014
He specifically mentioned the Kanto elite 4 you tool.

>>31230071
>the kanto elite 4 is the johto elite 4
really makes you think

>>31230092
Clair isn't a member of the elite 4 in either. Lance is in both. Use some common sense.

>>31230014
>>31230061
>>31230092
Clair isn't an Elite 4 Member, that's the whole fucking point idiot.

If I remember correctly then in the German version he never outright states he lost, just something along the lines of it being an extremely difficult battle.

>>31230129
>>31230124
And Wallace wasn't either.

>>31230170
What the fuck are you talking about. Where does Wallace have any relevance in this conversation?

>>31230124
>>31230129

>>31230014
>clair could've leveled up
>clair could've leveled up
jesus christ this board is retarded

I can quote this all for you if you want because I'm right before him saying it

"I went all the way to Indigo Plateau, yeah, right to the Pokemon League headquarters...and I went right at them, cousin!"

"Those Gym Leaders in Kanto really messed my team and me up!"

"And then that last guy, that Dragon user in the cape..."

It's Lance cause he says "Guy" not "Girl"

>>31230190
>sootopolis gym leader
>champion in the next game
Unless we aren't having a conversation about people going from gym leader to E4.

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>>31230224
thank you for actually putting forth a decent reply in contrast to usual /vp/
have pic related

>>31230224
>"Those Gym Leaders in Kanto really messed my team and me up!"
Are you telling me he struggled with brock and his level 14 onix?

>>31230265
Gym leaders scale

>>31230265
That was probably years ago way before brock was a gym leader

>>31230265
Maybe if he started with Charmander

>>31230265
>gym leaders dont scale
end this meme
and watch pokemon origins

>>31230265
Going by Origins, gym leaders actually have multiple teams but they use a team depending on how many badges the challenger has.

>>31230030
>>31229902
>>31230124


>It is unclear which iteration of the Indigo League he challenged

He could've fought a version of the league that we have never fought. Only three years go by and the Indigo League from RBY to GSC was pretty different. I personally think its Lance though

>>31230124
Lance is the champion, not an E4 in GS.

>>31229382
>losing to lance
>with an alolan ninetail
how is he a MOVE specialized professor again?

>>31230619
>charizard used flamethrower!

>>31230619
>Charizard used Flamethrower
Who's to say he used his E4 team while fighting Kukui and not his Champion team?

>>31230619
Literally
>>31230640
>>31230634
Why do you think he always sets rocks up now?

>>31230619
>>31230710
Also Aerodactyl and Gyrados push Alolan Ninetails in too.
He could be using the Kanto Regional variants too.

He literally says the same thing Lance says. It's pretty clear it's a reference to him losing to Lance.

>>31231509
Wait huh? What exactly are you talking about anon?

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>>31230224
And what does he say in Japanese?

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alola league is such a joke that there wasn't a champion and that the contender for it was a guy who couldnt defeat a trainer who got his ass whooped by three kids of the age of 10.

>>31231556
Go find someone who plays in Japanese and ask them

>>31231612
>Lose only 3 times in more than 3 years
>>bad
Lance might be a joke to us, but in-universe, he's not.

>>31231669
he lost to two 10 year old kids the same fucking day.

>>31231689
Yes? But again, considering he was the Champion, he never lost again for the next 3 years. In this situation, Lance isn't the bad trainer. Those 11 year olds were just too good.

>>31231556
He says "最後は マントの ドラゴン使いに……"

So just "And the last one was that caped dragon user", nothing about any gender.