How do you feel about shitmons getting amazing abilities? Do

It's great, particularly in game. You get to use shitty mons and still have fun. If your ingame team doesn't have at least one shitmon, you're a fucking chump.

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>>31227535
>thinking Diggersby is a shitmon

>>31227535
M8, Diggersby is more on par with Seperior than Spinda. Both would be trash if it weren't for their abilities whereas Spinda does not even have workable stats to make good use of Contrary.

>>31228460
It is without its ability, that's the whole point

>>31228761
So would scizor

>>31227535
If they're still called shitmons even when they get amazing abilities, then there is a problem somewhere in the mix.

However I do like that they get this kind of love, even if sometimes the hacks at GF fuck them over without noticing. I wish I could use contrary spinda more often in-game, but they made contrary the HA and removed its access to superpower.

>>31228761
Same could be said about Primal Groudon.

>>31228796
Even without drought primal groundons stats alone would carry it. Probley not s+ uber anymore though.

>>31228761
But Spinda and Dunsparce are still shit, despite their abilities, so they're not the same thing

>>31227535
for Bibarel are you talking about Simple or Moody?

since Bibarel has Swords Dance now and I think he's better off with Simple.

>>31228784
Is Scizor even relevant at all when Tapu Lele shuts down it's priority?

>>31228866
It be like B rank with out desolate land
And only because its a xerneas check/counter

>>31228784

Scizor would still be good though. Great stats and defensive typing, defog, pretty good movepool. Technician only really adds 20 base power to bullet punch, which is a great benefit, but taking away technician wouldn't make scizor luvdisc tier

>>31229192
It would become fortress that sacrifice bulk for roost

>>31229213
If Forretress had base 130 attack and access to swords dance.
Technician is not what makes Scizor good, it's just one of many things making Scizor good.

>>31229213

which still wouldn't make scizor a shitmon. Holy shit you retards "IF IT ISN'T OU IT'S A SHITMON!"

>>31229281
I never said it be a shitmon

>>31229312

Don't pull that shit, this whole thread and conversation is about pokemon becomming shitmons without abilities. Fuck off with your "I-I-IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE! I'M JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE!"