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I'll start

Access to recover, the ability technician.
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>>31221912
>Technician
>Not Adaptibility
>Buff your bro!
He never really was your bro, was he OP?
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>>31221966
Are you the guy who was triggered by Marshadow's ability
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>>31221912
Boomburst, +50 buff to all stats, and it's Mega ability is now Pixelate + Speed Boost + Wonder Guard
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>Speed buff
>Ice Shard
I know people mostly just bring up Shell Smash Kommo-o but I wonder what moves other pokemon will get once we have tutors
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>>31222046
Woah there bud, wanna stop. You're going to far.
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>>31222046
>Speed Boost + Wonder Guard + Pixalite
>Not just Adaptibility
Into the garbage it goes
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>>31221912
Give Dusknoir access to Shadow Bone.
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I don't think there's much more Scizor could realistically want ? Maybe a better fighting move than Superpower since it kind of forces you to switch, but the high power is highly desirable. Gear Grind could see use due to the ridiculous sheer power it would have I guess

252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Hippowdon: 284-336 (67.6 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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>>31222547

>Close Combat as egg move
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Double HP
Give recover
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>>31222606
Fug
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>>31222561
I mean it already gets Counter from Heracross, might as well give it CC while we're at it
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a. +3 speed
b. Nasty Plot
c. Sheer Force HA
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>>31221912
For Dusknoir, +20HP and Levitate, Recover would also be great.
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>>31222658
its funny to me how all it takes to change from mediocre speed to fucking outspeeds everything thats relevant is one fucking point
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What could buff wobbuffet? It even has buff in its name!
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>>31222606
>>31222642
Shuckle is already good.
C Rank in Ubers, above Lando-I and multiple Arceus forms.
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>>31222678

Blame the fact that gamefreak has a flat "2 > 1 = 2 goes first"
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>>31222693
That's ubers. Sticky web is more valuable there. I want it to become a actual wall then just having the niche of "reliable sticky web user". I'll be honest, it's my favorite pokemon and I just want to karenfag with it.
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>>31222687
Wobbuffet's only problem is that it's only useful in 6v6 singles, and the only place that cares about 6v6 singles doesn't allow shadow tag.
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>>31222832
Wobbufet is still good in Ubers
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>>31222741
Sticky Web is useful in OU , too, I've seen a few really good teams that use it.
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>>31222724
How would you do it then? Make who goes first based on luck, with the chance shifting based on the difference in speed? That's a terrible idea.
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>>31221912
Access to Recover and Dragon Claw
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>>31222880
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>>31222880
can any legendary be more le cucked than zycuck XD
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>>31221966
Technician-boosted Shadow Punch is stronger than Adaptability Shadow Punch, you mong.
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>>31222880
HEAL ORDER WHEN
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>>31222930
It's a meme.
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>>31221912
Iron Fist would be better imo, but Iron Fist itself needs a buff as well.
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shields down now also doubles as sturdy
learns accelerock
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Needs 40 more speed and 10 more to both defenses, then we got a worthwhile physical fairy type.
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>>31222998
>Meteor Mash
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>Volt Tackle
>Close Combat
>Ice Punch and Earthquake are fine
>+10 speed

Is it viable yet?
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>>31222998
Minior needs more defence in shield form.
How about 60/60/130/60/130/60? That way the BST of the two forms is the same.
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>>31222998
give
him
dragon
ASCENT
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>Dunsparce

Its moves and ability are already great. It only needs an adequate evolution to be good.

Dunsparces evo
Normal
Serene Grace

100>110
70>90
70>90
65>85
65>85
45>55
BST: 515

Its still slow but it has access to Glare, Roost, Coil, Calm Mind, Body Slam, Rock Slide and various other great special attacks which with Serene Gracre, makes it potentially annoying to play against.
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>>31223048
motor drive + discharge in doubles
too strob
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>>31223165
Give Dragonite and Gyarados Dragon Ascent they need flying STABS and it works thematically.
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>>31222079
Fluffy or fur coat would be nice as well. Give it mach punch too. Would be somewhat usable after that
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Flygon gets Arena Trap
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+10 speed
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>>31223224
Just make him electric/Grass
Hes perfect scarf speed
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>>31223165
>Teach Minior Dragon Ascent
>Have Minior use the move
>It evolves into YV Canis Majoris
>The entire Solar System is consumed by a Minior millions of times larger than the sun within an instant
>Minior used Explosion!
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+10 hp
+20 sp def

>A better mega

I still love this guy either way
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>>31222875
(Not the same anon you asked, mind you)
I'd make it so you need to have at least 5% more speed than the opponent to move first (about 16 to 20 more speed at Lv. 100), and anything inside that range would be as you said, random but leaning towards the faster mon. So that means you would need about 8 to 10 more base stat total to completely outspeed the opponent.
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>>31223800
That + coil and shore up
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>Sp. Attk +20
>HP +10
learns Gunk Shot (level up), Hammer Arm (egg), Crunch (level up) and Play Rough (egg)

This way 'queen can tank hits a little better and be viable as either physical or special (though special probably still being better).
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Parting shot would be nice, thanks.
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Half steel type during mega

I'll be unstoppable on all fronts now.
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>>31222671
This desu
Maybe reduce both defenses to 130 and put the 10 points into attack
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>tfw we will never get to abuse Eviolite Impostor Chansey
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>>31221912
For starters remove dusknoir and give clops a mega
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+20HP and +20 Sp Def
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I'll be honest, I have no idea how to fix mine. Defensive fire types were a mistake.

>>31222741
Totally agree on Shuckle, he's my second favorite.
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>>31223800
Coil
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>>31225261
Make it an ice type ;)
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>>31221912
Power Herb Geomancy so I can actually use Magician properly :/
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Drifblim
Boost his Defence and Sdef to at least 80s
Access to roost.
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>>31223166
Fuck Dunsparce and fuck Serene Grace. Headbutt and King's rock with Serene Grace give you 80% chance to flinch. Plus Glare? Fuck you.
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+ 15 SpD

mega with Grass/Rock and an iron barbs/rough skin ability that works against special attacks and stacks with spikey shield
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Give him Drain Punch and a hair more bulk
His stats are so ass, and so is his movepool
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Close combat or Drill run
a different ability would be nice
>lets make it fast
>give it unique priority,Sucker punch and quick attack
>AND give it two speed based abilities
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>>31221912
Recover makes no sense
Give it a ghost draining move
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>>31225835
All it needs is better hipnosis.
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>>31225835
i know people want a mega with No gaurd
a better version of Chucks old strategy with Poliwrath
and just give it dynamic punch via level up
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>>31221912
A Psychic type hammer arm.
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>>31225992
Also for my true favorite... drought is all that's needed.
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>>31221912
I would recommend
+10 HP
Change Pressure to Cursed Body
Gain Analytic as a secondary ability
Keep Frisk
learn Revenge, Phantom Force and Drain Punch

Or if I wanted to be unrealistic
+ 20 HP
+ 10 Attack
Change Pressure to Magic Guard
Gain Prankster as a secondary ability
Change Frisk to Analytic
learn Moonlight, Drain Punch, Spectral Thief, Swords Dance
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Incineroar's special attack and speed need to be reduced and boosted respectively, hell it'd be great if they were swapped. In terms of moves, it definitely should get Fire Punch, Knock Off and Sucker Punch. Maybe even Close Combat or Drain Punch as well.

Why did they fuck up so many Pokemon this generation by poorly attempting to make them into mixed attackers? It's nearly as bad as the rampart speed problem.
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>>31226323
just wait till HA and tutors are out for him then he will be fine
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>>31223047
>minior punching
I mean, if wooper can do it
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>>31226349
Incineroar will probably get some pretty sweet tutor moves, but its stats are still fucked.
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>>31225866
>complains about priority on fast mon
>who is talonflame (gen 6)
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>boost Atk/ SpDef/ Speed
>Give it a better ability
fixed
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a Mega with +60 to Attack and +40 to Speed?
would keep Normalize because it's the cats schtick

went with physical for Normalize STAB Sucker Punch

special might be good for Normalized Blizzard.
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A lot of gen 1 mons have absolutely awful stats because power creep
Give them better stats
And make the gen 2 one stage shitmons not shit
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>>31221912
>Dusknoir
>NOIR
>not part Dark
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Spinda +20 to each stat
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+20 Def
+20 Sp.Def
+20 Sp.Atk
Access to Earth Power or Psychic.

Defenses optional if it's going too far.
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Samurott just needs Shell Smash, come the fuck on Game Freak
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>>31226444
>give it a better ability
>weak to only one type (and freeze dry)with lightning rod
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Moxie and Mach Punch
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>>31223048
Galvanize.
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>>31226456
why on earth make it rely on the mega meme?
How bout it gets +20 in all stats and make normalize give you a 30% damage multiplier since making all moves normal type on any pokemon should be considered a penalty
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>>31223048
>hur hur volt tackle is double edge for pikachu
>hur hur lets not give the physically suffering electric attackers a decent move despite the number of physically attacking mono electric types
>heres a base 90 power recoil move
seriously fuck pikachu
it ruined half an entire type by existing
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Recover
make that base 60 SpDef 100
loser speed and Sp Atk to 20
that 70 points removed goes to HP making it 140
140/110/180/20/100/20 570 BST
plus access to stealth rock, and recover sounds pretty damn scary
removing the rock type would be icing on the cake
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Oblivious as HA.
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>>31223004
Give it a recovery move aswell. A Bulk Up set would make it a physical Clefable.
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Tail Glow. Xirkitree gets it, after all
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Ice fang.
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If it had at least one of these changes, I would be happy

Def->80

Earthpower

Queenly Majesty or Triage
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nasty plot
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Gets a new form where it breaks down into a bunch of smaller mouths to mirror Zygarde. Changes type and stat spread into something not garbage.
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>>31221912
>mfw my bro doesn't have a thread
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Give Togekiss:
Moonblast
Hurricane
and
Earth Power

Also they need to add a special, fire-type version of quick attack.
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mega
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Super Luck
and also his Mega Stone
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It has the same BST as its other forms but keeps its stats distribution, so something like

50/65/92/107/92/114
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Buff my bro /vp/
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+20 SpA
+Levitate
+Access to Focus Blast

Who am I kidding

>Ice Type
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>>31231045
Make it Toxapex 2.0
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>>31231045
+20 HP and either Recover or Nasty Plot
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>>31231073
Froslass got so close to being a very good Pokemon
>great special movepool (STAB Ice Beam, Thunder Bolt, Shadow Ball etc)
>nice support movepool (Spikes, T-Wave, Destiny Bond etc)
>high speed
Had it not been for her low stats (apart from speed) she would be one of the few ice types done right.
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>Fairy/Fighting
>Give it play rough
>make a fairy punching move
>ability is iron fist/adaptability
>the mega doesn't exist
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Def and Sp.Def+ 10
HP +20
Access to scald
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>>31226456
Change Normalize so it makes moves used on Delcatty Normal type too
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>>31224713
And make Mega Launcher effect "Hydro" moves while we're on it.
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25 extra health and 25 extra special defense and 1 extra move slot
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>>31231479
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I think I maybe was too generous, but idc I love him.

74 > 84
108 >118
133 > 133
83 > 93
65 > 85
35 > 68 (enough to outspeed scarf Landorus after a Shell Smash or with swift swim in rain with a neutral nature)

Also now gets Icicle crash, Shore Up and Rapid spin.
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75 in everything instead of 60
a move that doubles in power on confused opponents
alternatively, give it more moves to benefit from contrary besides superpower
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>>31222998
just make accelerock available to other mons, a year ago a priority rock type move was what every rockfag wanted and they went and gave it to a inferior Aerodactyl any other rock mon could use it better
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>>31231504
That's not a buff, that's nearly a mega evolution tier statup
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>>31222658
it still dies to fairies
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>>31222547
The best buff scizor could receive is knock off getting nerfed to 60bp
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>>31231572
Yeah I know but, just giving him a speed buff or one of the moves I listed would improve it's viability massively. I just listed those stats because I want him to be OU.
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>>31231646
Unless they start giving stuff megas again, chances are GF would just give it +20 defense and call it a day
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>Remove his Mega
>Give U-turn
> +10 Speed
> +10 HP
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>>31231680
>>Remove his Mega

How would that help him competitively at all? Like even in the slightly?
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>>31231247
Lapras actually has a really high BST.

Its problem is that it is so evenly distributed that it does nothing great.

It needs points redistributed, not added.
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>>31231720
It wouldn't. I just hate it.
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>>31231754
Lapras
HP: 130
ATK: 85 -> 65
DEF: 80 -> 90
SPA: 85 -> 105
SPD: 95
SPE: 60 -> 50

Better? Slightly bulkier with a better special attack. It's slow already so it really won't miss the 10 speed points.
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>>31231680
I don't know about competitive but in-game he could really use an early bug move. Being able to learn Smart Strike wouldn't hurt as a way to deal with Fairy types, and it would make sense since only pokemon with horns can learn it.
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>>31230342
>removing rock type
Weakness policy my nigga
rockpolish
hit em up with that +2 stone miss, EQ and heavy slam
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>access to good STABs and TWO recovery options
>good defenses and special attack
>good ability in effect spore
>still shit because its grass
I really don't know, I guess its HP by 10-15 points. Might be a bit better.
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Equal out its Attack stat and put the difference into Special Attack and give it a Psychic-type Attack so it can use Shattered Psyche.
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>Access to Recover
>Drizzle
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