ITT: GF Mistakes

>>31201896
Your life.

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>>31201932

>>31201932
>Everything but SM
Wow, Alolafags are hitting a new low.

>the solar power pokemon can't learn neither sunny day nor solarbeam

>>31201896
Fairy. Psychic Terrain. Giving Kyurem-B no Ice moves.

>>31203246
>the weather lizard Pokémon released in the wrong gen

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>Tapu Koko's moveset

All the terrains and weather get permanent visual effects on the battlefield and trick room didnt, whats up with that huh?

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>>31201896
>specially-oriented pokemon whose gimmick is that it's meant to be used in multiple types of weather
>doesn't learn weather ball

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>>31201896
GF's worst idea.Eviolite is a close second.

>>31204906
>Mega Beedrill
>implying

>>31204906
I agree with this so much holy fuck

>>31204906
Not all Mega's are bad.......


Just most of them are....

>>31204906
No, go fuck yourself.

>>31204906
Megas aren't bad as a concept. But the execution is fairly botched

>>31201896
>not outspeeding and paralyzing non-Scarfed Landorus/Garchomp with Glare
>not relying on RNG hax for full paralysis so you survive to paralyze another mon

>>31204906
>Eviolite is a close second.
I'll never understand this meme. The only pokemon that is actually better than its evolution thanks to Eviolite is Chansey, and arguably Dusclops. Porygon-2 could also be argued for, but it doesn't really count since the two play so differently.

>>31204906
>>31206025
This. I feel like I'm the only one on this board who doesn't hate Megas because the execution was so fucked. The concept was one of the coolest things that Pokemon added gameplay wise in years, it's just that they fucked it up.

>>31206090
Because they want new cross gen evos, and eviolite is popularly perceived as the reason it isn't/won't happen. It's not that eviolite users are too good, it's that the pokemon they want to evolve would be too good with eviolite.

>>31201896
>Garchomp

>>31205761
Losing bad Pheromosa is a good price to pay if we remove megas.

>>31203213
I'm the only one that loves crabadorable? It's ugly and deserves love.

>>31206360
How did they fuck it up?

>>31209061
>Already great mons get more powerful
>Crappy mons get a usable form that is overshadowed by better megas
>Mega fug
Megas would be fine if they limited to pokemon that needed them like Houndoom or Beedrill but giving pseudos a mega and the weather trio a mega/primal form is pants on head retarded for balance.

>>31209097
this, megas are cool, but some pokemon really don't need it, another like farfetch's or jinx, need it, and don't have.

Z-moves are cool tho.

>>31206090
Dusclops is way better than Dusknoir.
40/130/130 with Eviolite has way more bulk than 45/135/135. Sure, you lose 30 attack and 20 speed, but at 45 speed, Dusknoir isn't going first outside of TR anyway and for a tank mon, status moves are your bread and butter.

Porygon 2 and Z do play significantly different, but Eviolite makes 2 significantly better than without it. 2 was better than Z until Z-conversion became a thing.

>>31209097
Far more people would complain if iconic pokemon such as Charizard didn't get mega evolutions

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>>31201896

>>31209133
And yet they're both PU.

>>31203262
Kyreum-B gets Ice Beam and Draco Meteor. That thing hits pretty hard, even with the wasted Physical Attack stat.

>>31209440
How much did GF pay moot to make /vp/?

Heliolisk is my bro though.

>GF's two step forwards one step back mentality
>ivs and evs are great they personalize your pokemon and aren't annoying at all r-right?
>difficulty tweaks were only in one version and you had to restart to access it
>battlespot singles is 3v3 and not 6v6 or even 5v5
>half a generation could be missing stuff but thats ok because they'll fix it in the remake/third copy

>>31206562
>it's that the pokemon they want to evolve would be too good with eviolite
Name one potential candidate that would be AG/Uber tier broken if this happened.

>>31209794
/thread

Mega fug not being primal.

>>31203305
>Tapu Koko's stat distribution

>>31201896
Its so close to being good/usable though!!

>>31209025
It is ugly, but it doens't deserve love
What it does deserve, however, is both mach punch and ice shared.

>>31211805
>Its so close to being good/usable though!!
>It was in UU during most, if not all of gen VI
I hate this "if its not OU its shit" meme

>>31204906
Anti-Mega cucks still exist huh?

>>31211816
>I hate this "if its not OU its shit" meme

OU is the only worthwhile Metagame though. Everything else is meme tier. VGC/Doubles especially, is a joke of a format.

>>31209451
Dusclops is only PU because Knock Off got buffed. IIRC, back in gen 5 it was a tier or two ahead of Dusknoir.

>>31209418
They didn't say iconic Pokemon shouldn't get mega evolutions, Charizard needed one.
Salamence, Garchomp, Metagross, other pseudo legendary Pokemon, were powerful enough as they were.

>>31211855
>OU is the only worthwhile Metagame though
>actually saying this
>when the whole tier is legendaries, pseudos or megas
how deluted

>>31210552
>ag/uber
>lolsmogon

>>31211870
Doesn't matter what's in the tier. It's the only one that matters. Playing anything under OU is like playing in a Low Tier tournament for fighting games. It's fun for a one time thing, but it's not something to do in the long run.

>>31204906
Just remove all pseduo and legendary megas

>>31211912
and gengar's
and lucario's
and mawile's
and sableye's
and medicham's
and lopunny's
and...

>>31211855
OU is actual cancer, kill you'reself

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>>31203242

>>31209097
So you basically want to excuse Pokemon for no reason other than "muh balance" which never existed. Hint: those weak mons wouldn't even have a chance against the base form of the ones you're complaining about, probably. Nothing changed.

>>31201896
>Create huge region
>Only create ~70 new Pokémon to populate it, and fill all the gaps with a fuck ton of old ones
>Create another huge region next generation
>Do the exact same shit again, but make nearly a quarter of those new Pokémon post-game legendaries
I wish they'd stop being idiots about "muh 1,000 total Pokémon" and just make another dex with ~120 new Pokémon.

>>31201896
>games are called sun and moon
>can't catch solrock and lunatone
>games are set in hawaii
>they even introduced a bird wit hula form difference
>bellossom is not obtainable at all
>still use it in that cut-out board thing instead of newly introduced pokemon

>>31203213
Didn't like it at first because I wasn't think Crabrawler would even evolve. But now that I have used it I'm starting to really like it now.

>>31203242
That, or the picture was created before SM released.

>>31212102
This, I understand that 1000 pokemon is a pretty large number, but quite frankly I think kids would love to have more than 1000 species of pokemon.

>>31203355
It's a Trick... To fool newbies.

>>31203242
kek

>>31213430
What did they mean by this? Why would they give it such low speed. It honestly eludes me.

>>31204906
thread winner

>>31209133
>set up on me harder daddy
I like it. Just passively exist and don't do anything back. Very zen.

>>31211776
>it should just be faster lele
get out

>>31206562
>and eviolite is popularly perceived as the reason it isn't/won't happen.
which is stupid since there's more than enough extremely weak single stages that would suck dick even with eviolite

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>>31206090
>eviolite swadloon will never be recognized despite being significantly bulkier than leavanny and having a decent support movepool

>>31214115
>defensive mon
>grass/bug
do you expect that to ever work?

>>31213516
honestly switch its attack and speed around and it would be fine.

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Not being able to skip the credits the first time.
>Trying to skip them
>Accidentally L+R+Start
>mfw

>>31206090
Eviolite golbat with super fang is pretty fun

>>31214176
i used it unironically in doubles for a while before i stopped playing showdown
was probably only playing against shitters, but it was good enough at supporting and disrupting that I had people trying to focus it down

Calm w/Synthesis/Safeguard/Toxic/Electroweb, x4 resistance to erfquek, good bait for Chandelure/Heatranny to come in, and walled garchomp (including megas, since nobody ran outrage or poison jab on them at the time)
can also run Sticky Web or Magic Coat
wish it got Leech Seed

>>31213430
I hope one day all Levitate Pokémon get secondary abilities and this thing gets Surge Surfer or Speed Boost.

Rampardos not having rock head

>based on an animal that headbutted things
>litterally has a armored, rock head
>it's signature move is recoil based

>>31212115
Butterfree and no beedrill
Sableye and no mawile
Any other counterparts missing from the dex?

>>31214251
fuck me, I did that too.

>>31214115
caution: flammable

>>31213516
It's a railgun which have slow start up times

>>31214251
>>31214297
W-what happens? Miss the festival?

>>31203242
Wow, are anti-Alolafags so low that they pretend BW2 doesn't exist.

>>31214291
Meanwhile, Aerodactyl has Rock Head and learns only one (1) recoil move - Double-Edge

>>31214373
It's also based on some sort of fly. Flies have lightning fast reflexes.

>>31209133
Dusclops is actually worse than Dusknoir since it has lower HP and can't do any damage (unlike Dusknoir), so it has to rely on passive damage which gives the opponent time to set up and/or use Knock Off.
Seriously, they're both PU shit, Dusknoir just happens to be a bit better since it can actually do stuff.

>Aerilate
>Refrigerate
>Pixilate
>Galvanize
Autism status: tickled.

>>31206562
That's not it. It's because of continuity's sake. How you gonna explain the little kids Lapras didn't work with Eviolite last gen? It's the same reason Umbreon doesn't evolve with Moon Stone and Espeon with Sun Stone.

>>31201896
>hating Heliolisk
pls go

>>31214730
>Normalize
It's actually the other ones that are wrong.

>>31214774
Normalize doesn't really do the same thing though. Doesn't even give a 20% boost like the others do.

>>31214835
as of gen 7 it does

>>31201896
Landorus

>>31214955
do you realize without it gen 6 would've just been stall? he kept so much shit in check, you should be thankful.

>>31214703
>Pain Split

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>>31214955
Obviously.

>>31214762

>How you gonna explain the little kids Lapras didn't work with Eviolite last gen?

Parallel universes, just like with Megas.

>>31201896
Pickachu

>>31215006
>Smogon matters

Maybe if Smogon didn't ban all the good offensive mons like Lucario and Blaziken, stall wouldn't be a thing

>>31214703
>Will o wisp
>hex
>calm mind
>shadow ball or dark pulse
Hex and least seems like it could be good without boosts once you burn the opponent

>>31204906
Megas are NOT bad, GF giving megas only for pandering reasons and pseudo-legendaries was a mistake

>>31215629
>not Pain Split

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Literally why.

>>31215784
Anime plot armor.

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>>31215824
>armor
>when the buff is solely to offensive stats and the defensive stats stay untouched

>>31210552
Rayquaza

>>31214652
No. Just no. Ribombee is a fly. Vikavolt is very clearly and explicitly a stag beetle.

>>31214762
But anon,
>How are you gonna explain Clefairy was Normal type?

Can't fucking pick and choose 'muh continuity'. Since the great Fairy retcon of '14 (magnemite set a precedent of an added type but not a wholly changed one) nothing should be off bounds anymore but gamefreak have a special kind of autism and seem to love making shitty work for themselves by having to include dozens of otherwise useless trade evo items and crappy incenses.


Yes I took the bait.

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>>31216016
>ribomBEEEEEE is a fly

>>31216133
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombyliidae. "The Bombyliidae are a family of flies. Their common name is bee flies"

>>31214835
But it does.

>>31215040
>>31216095
We all know typing is one thing, items is another. Incenses, evolutionary stones, Prism Scale, the list goes on.

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>>31216133
Get fucked

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>>31204906

>finally that mon you love will have a chance to be competitive! ever wanted absol, lopunny, beedrill, mawile and charizard to stand a chance against legendaries? well now they can!

>NEVERMIND MEGAMENCE AND MEGARAYQUAZA LMAO

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>>31213430
>mfw even the game acknowledges that it's slow by having you wait for the totem battle

>>31216467
>playing ubers
wel you deserve it for being such an idiot

>>31216484

Im speaking of the original concept you mouth-breathing retard troglodite piece of shit

>>31216338
Again, special kind of autism.

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>>31214373
So it should've gotten slow start instead, check mate.

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>>31214703
>can't do any damage
No, it has night shade.
Dusclops is superior to Dusknoir as a tank but not as an attacker, obviously. Not sure why people try to run it as a bulky attacker.

Dusclops is bad (as a tank) for two reasons: knock off being buffed and no reliable recovery. I can assure you that if either of those changed in dusclops favor, it will be bumped up a few tiers on their autism scale.

It's best used in doubles as it is great in setting up trick room, inflicting burns, and helping sweepers score the KO by crippling opponents with night shade and pain split.

>>31216497
>oh no gf made someone's bro ubers
God forbit others have fun amirite anon? It really does take a special kind of autism with you fucks.

>>31216571
>using FE Memes on /vg/
Leave

>>31201896
Why Heliolisk is a mistake?

>>31203213
Kys

>>31204906
/thread

>>31216476
That made laugh like a fat kid the whole scenes.