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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Trailer for upcoming events
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLq9SfVJFk

>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the movie: I Choose You [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-zA7-lr_k

Next episode:
>SM9 - The Totem Pokémon is Dekagoos! [Jan 5th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM10 - Will the Z-Move Work?! Challenging the Grand Trial!! [Jan 12th]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>31186862

DP20 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_489_DP020_Pokemon_Hunter_J![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][14688586].mkv.torrent

SM8 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_008_Who's_in_Charge_of_the_Egg[H264_720P][1B2CFD16].mkv.torrent

XY&Z35 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_035_Rival_Showdown!_Satoshi_Gekkouga_VS_Mega_Jukain!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][61327225].mkv.torrent

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=867058

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085

(HIGH QUALITY) MOVIE 19 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=882608
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NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 9 - THE TOTEM POKÉMON IS DEKAGOOS! (JANUARY 5TH)
>Melemele Island's Island King Hala makes his entrance! And Satoshi finally starts his Island Pilgrimage challenge. The trial he is given by Hala is to win against the Totem Pokémon Dekagoos, but will he be able to do this?!

>Summary:
>Ratta and Koratta are laying waste to the island's fields. And then, Satoshi meets Island King Hala. Satoshi tells Hala he will be attempting the Island Pilgrimage. However, Hala then asks him a question and tells him he can only attempt the Island Pilgrimage after answering it.

>Satoshi struggles with Hala's question, but eventually manages to find the answer to it thanks to his Pokémon School classmates' help. And then he's finally given a trial by Hala...!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Asami Seto: Junsa
>Nobuyuki Hiyama: Hala
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 65 (Jan 8th)
>Leaving Pokénchi for Fun and Games in Hokkaido / Binging on the Best Food Hokkaido Has to Offer / A Pokémon Battle Using Sun/Moon!

SM10 - Will the Z-Move Work?! Challenging the Grand Trial!! (Jan 12th)
>It's finally time for the Grand Trial against Island King Hala! Hala uses Fighting types, and his powerful battle style causes Satoshi great trouble. Satoshi goes up against him alongside Pikachu and Mokuroh! During the battle, Hala unleashes a Z-Move together with his partner Hariteyama, but Satoshi returns fire by using a fully powered Z-Move himself! It's a clash between two Z-Moves! How will it end?

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/buzdoe.zip

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!ABsWQTbY!d1ILUTYt2IyO6hW97_Jk8YY9BVuvEdrHAu8J2uMwYR0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws
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Can Lysandre do this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ve1889zS030
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Long hair Serena best Serena.
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>>31193764
No.
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Reposting from my phone.
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>>31193764
Why are you still here?
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>>31193824
>implying it's one person
>implying he's wrong
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funny OCs hehehe XDDDD

I love star wars
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>>31193824
This isn't the SM discussion thread, it's the anime discussion thread.
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Pikachu/Buneary or Pikachu/Togedemaru?
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>>31193929
Pikachu/Togedemaru is already canon
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Can we forget about Serena already?
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I'm so bored with this new series already. This new episode this week better be good.
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>>31193970
Never, people can't also forget about Dawn because those girl were simply better and became unforgettable.
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>>31193795
>tfw we will never actually see this on screen
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/a/fags busy shitposting in their seasonal anime threads that's about to start this week

Probably why they aren't shitting this thread up
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>>31194016
this
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>>31194036
They'll be back soon enough, the holidays are just wrapping up anyways
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>>31194036
welp, it was a great week

not until they come back this thursday
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>>31194036
I thought they realized SM wasn't their SoL Harem anime they wanted and fucked off
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>>31194083
They actually love the shit SM does, I've read a couple of threads that appeared these past days

They still think it's SoL
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>>31194089
Maybe for you.
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>>31194292
fuck off
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>>31194292
lol what a faget
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>>31194292
>giving a shit what those cancerous circlejerking self-righteous idiots think
They're even worse than we are
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>>31194292
What the fuck did I just read
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>>31194356
he is projecting
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>>31194019
We will never see them get together either, so it's not canon
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>>31194444
>>31194462
>>31194473
ayyyyyyy lmaooooo
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>>31194444
You forgot your trip again, Mami
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>>31193795
>admitting you're phonefagging
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Why isn't Alain with them?
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>>31194541
he is anakin
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>>31194549
Why though?
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>>31194541
> *Also, Alan is meant to be an "Anakin Skywalker-type character", someone who turns to the dark side to protect those he loves.

You've been missing out, anon.
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>>31194570
director confirmed it
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>>31194571
He didn't know he went to the dark side, Anakin knew.
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>All this new things
>While I was away
Someone tldr me
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>>31194674
Here you go, senpai:
>Hopefully this summary is accurate. The interview tells us:
>>that the kiss scene, while meant to *look* ambiguous, was definitely depicting an off-screen kiss;
>>that people were correct to interpret the scene as signaling that Serena's love will come to fruition someday because she will return for him later on as a more beautiful/charming woman;
>>that Amour was neither Yajima's idea nor was it meant to be a regional gimmick, but rather another staffer's suggestion for the Kalos main girl's backstory/character;
>>that Satoshi actually did react to the kiss, in a dazed/starstruck way;
>>that Satoshi-Gekkouga was created by GF and put into the S/M games after Yajima wanted to find a way to give those two characters a unique bond in the XY&Z anime;
>>that the "Alan Skywalker" memes were really onto something after all;
>>that the mega-evolution specials didn't start out as mega-evolution-oriented episodes, but as Alan-introduction/development episodes, and eventually they decided to give them a mega-evolution flavor;
>>that XY&Z's relative lack of filler was due to time constraints;
>>that nobody knew exactly how long the Kalos generation of the anime would last when it first started;
>>that Satoshi's XY design was primarily Yajima's, and his sideburns were inspired by Red;
>>that everyone basically forgot about Professor Okido
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>>31194674
Various interesting tidbits from the recent interview with Yajima:
*The kiss scene is indeed meant to be Serena kissing Satoshi, and his reaction to it is surprised awe, any ambiguity the scene has is so they could get it on TV in the first place.
*Likewise, you're meant to hope and assume the two of them are going to become a couple later.
*The idea to have a romance subplot apparently came from producer Shukichi Kanda, who came up with the idea of portraying things through a female lead's admiration for Satoshi, which then led to the suggestion that they'd have a flashback to a childhood meeting with romantic implications.
*Yajima did not know exactly how long the series would last, only that it would have to end when the next games came out.
*Alan was always meant to be part of the main series. The reason the four Mega specials were made was because it would be difficult to set up his backstory and development in the series itself, so he came up with the idea of giving him his own episodes that could establish his character. The idea to give these episodes a mega evolution theme came later, and was also his idea (so they were not made or the purpose of marketing megas, or in order to test the water for a series with another main character or any other such theory).
*Also, Alan is meant to be an "Anakin Skywalker-type character", someone who turns to the dark side to protect those he loves.
*Satoshi's XY design was primarily Yajima's, and the idea for his sideburns were taken from "a character from the video games named Red, which Satoshi is based on".
*Yajima wanted to make the bond between Satoshi and Gekkouga a major part of the story, but felt it would be difficult to do so if it had to remain a Gekkouga, so he went to Game Freak, and they came up with the idea of a synchro transformation. It was put in Sun/Moon afterwards, but was created during this discussion between anime staff and GF.
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>>31194707

*The interviewer notes that Okido didn't appear at all outside of episode 3, and that Okido's lecture segment getting replaced with PokeTV when XY&Z started meant that Okido didn't appear at all throughout all of XY&Z (the interview was conducted before XY&Z47 had aired) and asks if there was a reason for this. Yajima confirms this was a complete oversight, not something intentional. Presumably this goes for other callbacks to older series as well.
*When XY&Z started, Yajima knew that the series had to wrap up everything in only a year, and they did a meeting to basically set up how the events of that year would go. He also specifically says that this is the reason there's minimal filler in XY&Z, there was absolutely no room.
*Yajima wanted to drop the use of stock footage completely, but this wasn't possible to do, so they went with creating stock foreground footage that could have different backgrounds added to it instead.
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>>31194703
>>31194707
>>31194714
Welp. Any way to merge these into one handy-dandy wrap-up?
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>>31194721
The two latter posts are a quote of Adamant's wrap-up post on Serebii, which is a slightly rewritten variant of what he posted here earlier.
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>>31194032
Source?
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>>31194703
>>>that the "Alan Skywalker" memes were really onto something after all;

MAYMAY MAGIC SONS OF BITCHES

Also it's fucking sad that there was no Z games.
So fucking sad.
Maybe we'd have got even more of this goodness
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>>31194032
I don't get the original line? Seems kinda awkward.
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Reminder that they used an escalator to portray the loneliness of being forcefully separated.
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>>31194809
It's just awkwardly translated, I guess.
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>>31194818
>the loneliness of being forcefully separated.

?

It's not like Serena HAD to separate from Ash.
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I wish they had said anything in the interview about the following two things:

>why Alan ended up as the only undefeated rival
>the league pacing and what the fuck was that big golden shuriken
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>>31194864
yes by the execs
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>>31194864
From a meta point of view, yes, because it's hard to find a reason for her to go to school to Alola.
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>>31194873
>>why Alan ended up as the only undefeated rival
confidential
>>the league pacing and what the fuck was that big golden shuriken
confidential :^)
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>>31194873
It was a Z-move, probably will appear in the next game.
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>>31194891
Honestly though, I think they should at least have some other returning characters since Alola is literally a vacation hotspot.
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What's in the egg Ash brought to Alola?
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>>31194928
tfw
>SM 089: Kasumi Returns!! Koduck Gets Lost?!
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>>31195090
>Kanto Eevee
As opposed to Alola Eevee?
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>>31194032
Why did they change the scene?
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>>31195110
The original was too much
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>>31194993
Kanto Vulpix

>>31195106
Meant to say Vulpix the first time. Had a brain fart. Lillie's egg has Alola Vulpix in it.
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>>31194864
Yes she had.
We didn't see Serena being conflicted about leaving Ash because she would obviously have chosen to stay with him, but that's something that can't happen.
Also it'd have been a sad farewell.
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Pikachu was so based in the Alan battle
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>>31195358
How do you make these look so nice? Like in terms of jagged edges.

I'm assuming patience + polygonal select tool in photoshop/something similar, because that's how I used to make stuff.
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>>31195382
>I'm assuming patience + polygonal select tool in photoshop/something similar
Pretty much this. Most of these take time. Every now and then I get one that's really easy to do (such as a meme-face character with a really thick black outline) where I can use the smart-selection tool instead of the polygonal-selection tool.
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>>31194882
>by the execs
So amour is not canon?
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>>31195451
it is but serena can't come to a sm season
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>>31194906
Not likely. That would put Greninja into some next level shilling at that point.
>Gee, Greninja, why do they give you a unique pseudo-Mega form and a unqiue z-move?
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>>31195451
It was never canon, because we're never going to see it happen and they could always introduce a new love interest for Ash later.
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>>31195469
But in gen 8 there will be another main girl
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>>31195318
Pikachu is in dire need of a new move. The Z moves are nice, but give him extreme speed or something because Ash loves quick attack to much. Or just let him use volt tackle again.
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>>31195549
I don't think so, but it's possible
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>>31195358
That Mallow looks great anon.
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>>31195478
Greninja is already the most shilled mon at this point, so giving him a Z move isn't too crazy.
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>>31195559
yes?
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Amour has no future
Ash is only 10, damn it.
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>>31195649
>still mad
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>>31195649
I'm an Amourfag but I don't see why everyone is so excited about what was said. In a show like this that goes on forever, there is no true endgame for Ash.
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>>31195649
(You)
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Reminder that only western anime fans are still in denial about amour.
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>>31195669
Be realistic anon
Pokemon has no future in relationships.
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>>31195695
I'm not mistyfag
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>>31195719
Mistyfags
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>>31195673
Sometimes there's endgame enough, which is what this is. Not everything has to conform to the "it needs to happen at the end of a series and show a time skip where they are married with kids!" standard that Westerners are used to.

Japan got the picture, but for some reason Westerners refuse to.
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>As if japanese children are interested in this shit
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>>31195777
A lot of kids shows have romance in them. When I was only 8-9 I picked up on romance in cartoons, its not like kids today don't care about it.
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>>31195760
Explain that please
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>>31195819
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>>31195819
>>31195845
What is this?
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>>31195856
Some dumb tumblrfag, just ignore it.
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>>31195839
He committed suicide
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>>31195831
Some has them, but for children, romance is not what they are focusing on when watching shows. It's a nice addition, but they rather have giant explosions and penis jokes instead.
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>>31195845
I don't know what is this?
But it says Shudo doesn't care about Misty and Pokeshipping he prefered Team Rocket so he deleted Misty from the series
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>>31195889
Is this bait, anon?
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>>31195856
It's an old Shudo interview explaining why he axed Misty at the end of Johto instead of Team Rocket.

He basically says Misty had no purpose on the show (which during Johto, is true), and that her crush on Ash didn't exist or he didn't want it to happen because Pokemo isn't about romance.
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>>31195920
Wow, it's very direct.
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>>31195881
Apparently they care otherwise amour would have been dropped long ago.
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>>31195903
Misyy: Yes
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I wish the writers would reveal in an interview why they haven't let Ash win a league in 20 years.
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>>31195952
Test it
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>>31195975
I think you mean "prove it"
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>>31195953
I still don't understand why SM exists
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>>31196053
Why do so many artists have Bonnie witnessing Ash/Serena's first time?
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Ash and Misty is a cuter couple... and it actually feels genuine and not as forced as Ash and Serena was. Pokeshipping is and will always be more popular. When regular people think about Ash and his girl they think of Ash and Misty, not Ash and Serena.
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>>31195839
The interview is still spreading... but you can already see some heavy damage control on places like tumblr or pearlshipping vault.
It's amusing.
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>>31196066
Ok OSfag
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>>31196062
>>31195972
Fuck off Scott
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>>31196071
>giving a shit
Why don't you go back to those places?
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>>31196071
The people on pearlshipping vault are like new-age Pokeshippers. They seem to be kids who watched DP as their first saga and now obsess over Dawn/pearl like the old Misty fans did.
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>>31196066
You were watching the dub
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>>31196000
Because world of pokemon is wide and deep and has no end.
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>>31196128
But why shit on Ash's XY personality.
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>>31196128
Matsui pls
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>>31196062
Because Bonnie knows everything
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*wins da ash*
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>>31196142
SM Ash is literally XY Ash with togedemaru in da face slapstick.
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>>31196053
So Pikachu is in its pokeball, Ash and Serena can breed
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Mallow = useless
Lana = useless
Lillie = useless
Sophocles = useless

Why is the SM cast so fucking shit?
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>>31196053
Bonnie's role in the Gamblerclub doujins is hilarious. Poor girl never gets to see Ash at work with the other girls.
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>>31196066
Misty was a bitch.
I feel sorry for Tracey.
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>>31196117
Wasn't it more like a brother-sister type of thing? Wasn't that the point of High Touch?
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>>31196220
>Sophocles = useless
But he saved SM.
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>>31196237
Yes. Pearlshipping was just really popular especially in Japan, only recently surpassed by Amour. By the time DP began people wanted a new Ash ship, and Ash/Dawn had a close bond. But the writers had Dawn not like boys.
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>>31196128
End of Za Warudo
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Wasn't there a producer on the interview?
Why?
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>>31196274
>>31196235
kill yourself already scott
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>>31196274
People generally like Ash taking a mentor like role to his new traveling companion, so him being a mentor type to Lillie works out nicely. I mean it worked pretty well with Dawn and Serena, but not so much May.
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>>31195920
Shudo left the show long before Johto ended.
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Does Scott even watch the anime nowadays? It seems all he does is fap to may, read doujins and post on 4chan and other pokeani sites.
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>>31196352
He left the show but still had some say which is why the anime staff all listened to him to axe Misty but keep Team Rocket around.
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>>31196290
An unknown producer
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>>31196360
I've watched every single episode of the anime to date. Even all of BW and all of the Johto fillers. I've seen every episode of the anime at least once.
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>>31194016
so what was /vp/'s reaction when dawn was replaced by Cilan in black and white? did they spam dawn images until the season 2?
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>>31196363
It sounds more like the translator misinterpreted and this was just Shudo explaining why (he assumed) she got written out.
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>>31196383
There weren't many anime fans on /vp/ back in 2010. Back then most people discussed the anime on serebii/bulbagarden. These anime threads didn't even start till XY in 2013.
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>>31196371
Unknown producer will kill amour
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>>31196382
yeah but do you actually re watch the old episodes every now and then? I assume you watch the new SM episodes as they come out
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>>31196399
Fuck off.
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>>31196220
>Sophocles = useless
3.9%
APOLOGIZE
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SM is shit
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>>31196371
Probably.. Shukichi Kanda
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>>31196449
Your post is shit.
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>>31196421
Back in 2012 I did a marathon rewatch of most of the show. Also as a kid I used to watch reruns of the OS and AG daily on TV since they used to air afternoons on KidsWb when I was a kid, so I saw the episodes multiple times.

I've also watched DP about 3 times.
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>>31196449
3 YEARS

Y
E
A
R
S
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Serena is the best girl
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>>31196474
what do you think of SM so far, Scott? You also think it's shit?
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>>31196371
He or she is probably there to make sure Yayima doesn't say something he shouldn't.
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>>31196066

Too bad Based Kanda killed it...

>But don't worry, anon. If you want to watch pairings similar to Pokeshitting, there's a fuckton of series... Ranma 1/2, Oreimo, Evangelion, Mazinger Z, tons of haremshit with a tsundere female lead, Medabots, etc...

tbqh, Misty was an unleashed gorilla cunt. She hated Ash's guts, resorted to violence against him and craved for Orange Islands dicks every moment. Compared to the carrot headed slut, Serena is just an innocent goddess.
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>>31196519
Longhairena
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てか、ポケモンも海外進出に有る程度重きを置いて、LGBTに配慮するようになったから
アニメの女装ネタもXY以降は控えるようになってるのかもしれないな

ゲームの主人公の選択画面すら「おとこのこ」「おんなのこ」の選択肢がなくなってるし

Fuck tumblr
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>>31196519
serenathumbsup.jpg
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>>31196526
Its a downgrade from XY, but its not as bad as I thought it would be. I like the supporting cast bar Sophocles, but I hope it improves in terms of Ash's character and story
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>>31196533
Evangelion?
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>>31196527
>Producer (No name): No, it should look like they were definitely kissing.
Amourfag
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>>31196536
This is Gamblerclub art, he's a really good artist even when he's not drawing porn.
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>tfw enjoyed xyz
>tfw enjoying sm
Who here living the good life?
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>>31196548
Translation?
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>>31196580
He should draw cute only.
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>>31196654
He drew this cute Serena in SM style.
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>>31196647
LGBT
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>>31196637
Me.
I'm kinda worried about upcoming Totem Battle. Will Matsui be able to make them as good as Gym Battles?
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>>31196562

Asuka & Shinji's relationship was the typical dense loser x hysterical tsundere 'till deconstruction started to kick in.

Tbqh, Ash should've choked Misty... too bad Pokemon is a young kids show. It would've been really nice to see Ash having enough of the abuse Misty did to him and snapping to the point of choking her until the mandatory "Pikachu stopping him with a thundershock".
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>>31196548
>アニメの女装ネタもXY以降は控えるようになってるのかもしれないな
>You may be supposed to refrain from animated girls' neta after XY
???
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>>31196420
Just wait Kasumi
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>>31196688
Misty's personality resembled a lot of 90's era anime girls at the time. Misty was a product of her time, back then tsundere girls with huge tempers were very popular in Japan.

As we got into the 2000's more girly and feminine girls got more popular, hence the anime transitioning to May and then the far more girly Dawn...and Serena being a waifu...and now Lillie.
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>>31196647
>Well, it might be that Pokemon putting some emphasis on international appeal leads to them taking LBGTs into consideration and as such avoid crossdressing gags in the anime from XY and on
>The video games have removed the terms "boy" and "girl" from the character selection screen as well
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>>31196725
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>>31196760
>as such avoid crossdressing gags in the anime from XY
>fags killed Satoko/Satomi
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>31196761
Not this shit again
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>>31196777
It's just some nip speculating.
But I hope he's wrong.
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>>31196554
I dunno, I felt like Ash got a lot of charater in SM. Granted, it's the little things like him calling his mother 'mama' like the mama's boy that he is, empathizing with Litten's situation of being raised by a single parent, him being a dumbass at housework because he really hasn't shown to do any sort of housework before, or him deciding to use Rowlet over Pikachu against James because he wanted to train him instead of outright winning, or just how he gave the final pastry to Pikachu instead of finishing it himself.
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>>31196760
>avoid crossdressing gags in the anime from XY
>typing this with straight face
>when XYZ22 exists

Also in XY were you able to reverse from boy/girl choice at char creation stage?
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>>31196637
not the people who constantly complain.
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Why do you hate Misty?
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>>31196826
Sorry, 女装 specifically refers to boys dressing as girls.
XY&Z22 didn't have that.
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>>31196871
Probably because of people who post things like this:

http://pokeshipping.tumblr.com/post/155352439197/i-dont-get-why-the-writers-would-take-a-random

That person said Serena is, "just a random girl from a random gen, and isn't iconic like Misty."

A lot of pokeshippers are butt-hurt about the Yajima interview about Serena, its hilarious.
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>>31196151
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>>31196871
I'm not Shudo
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>>31196820
Is SM kinda has that "family" theme?
>Rowlet and Litten being adopted by other Pokemon, Ash not wanting to catch them because they have strong bond with thier families

>Lillie living alone, distant from her blood-related mother and brother, cares about Egg like her own kid
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>>31196888
Anyways, it had literal reverse.
With Serena doing the part.
I don't see why they're complaining
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>>31196871
Pearlfags hate her
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>>31196933
They're worried that we might never get Ash dressing up as a girl again because westcucks will get offended by it.
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>>31196899
>Using tumblr as an example
That's stupid. That's like saying I should be hating DP because of all the aura fics on ff.net.
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>>31196871
I still like pre-Johto Misty, but I swear Misty fans have the most annoying fanbase of all time. Its been 14 years since Misty was written off and they're still posting angry rants about Misty leaving and how she should return and bashing all the other characters.

14 years of autism.
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>>31196871

Because of her fans... mostly anti-serena and anti-amour shitposters.

Besides...

>Tsun without dere. Literally hated Ash's guts because of a fucking bike.
>The real slut. She wanted desperately some Orange Island cocks, Don Giorgio, Tracey... she even praised Gary and compared him with Ash in the japanese version.
>Bad taste in Pokemon. How in the entire pokeverse can someone find cute a fucking Tentacruel and a Tentacool?????
>Lethal Cooker. Even worse than other tsundere who are bad cookers as well. So bad she even can't taste her own food.
>Equally vague goal as Ash and Iris.
>Hypocrytical and vain. She comes herself as more mature and smartass than her male companions, but she's just a fuckin child with self esteem issues, equally impulsive and arrogant as OS Ash and with a superiority-inferiority complex towards Ash.
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>>31196920
Wasn't it obvious? Even in the game, the family theme was prevalent. 'What makes a family?' is essentially the core of the fame. Guzma and his father, Olivia and Mallow, Ilima and how proud his family of him, the MC and his/her mother, Team Skull and their devotion to their big brother/father figure Guzma, and so forth. Despite having aliens from another dimension, it was the most down-to-earth entry into the franchise.
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>>31196960
>replying
Stop
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Could Alain become the next KALOS champion?
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>>31197007
>. How in the entire pokeverse can someone find cute a fucking Tentacruel and a Tentacool?????
Bonnie literally finds Slaking cute.
She has weird taste.
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>>31197038
Diantha >
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From that post:

>I don't get why the writers would take a random female player character from a random generation of the game, and then adapt her to the anime as the end all be all relationship for Ash. Not with all the history in the show with other girls, primarily Misty, who is iconic and ubiquitous with Pokemon. What are they thinking? Why mistreat old fans for a game generation that's now over and will never have the longstanding following of pokeshipping? Here's hoping Nintendo puts the kibosh on that.

"Will never have a longstanding following of Pokeshipping" Looks like they're bitter about the translated Amour interview.
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>>31196995

That's the future /padt/ has chosen:

>Its been 14 years since Serena was written off and they're still posting angry rants about Serena leaving and how she should return and bashing all the other characters.

>14 years of autism.
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Can somebody tell me about some good battles from ADVANCED GENERATION?
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>>31197065
Nobody cares. Fuck off.
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>>31197077
Ash Vs. Flannery, Winona and Juan were my favorite Gyms. May Vs. Drew in the Kanto GF is one of the best battles for a female lead in general. Beautifly Vs. Medicham was also really good.
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>>31197007
>Bad taste in Pokemon. How in the entire pokeverse can someone find cute a fucking Tentacruel and a Tentacool?????
faggot
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>>31197077
Battle Frontier
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>>31197112
>Regice fully healed
>Pikachu, Volt Tackle!
>OHKO
Was Pika at his strongest in AG?
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>>31197100
DELETE THIS
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What is this?
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>>31197158
10$ @ damn good shop
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>>31197067
This is exactly what's going to happen.
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>>31197158
es fake
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>>31197213
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>>31196899
More like this Scott?
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>>31197213
At least Ash/Serena is a canon ship confirmed with a possible endgame. Ash/Misty was literally killed off by Shudo years before Serena existed.
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Best canon pairing

>>31196978
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>>31197258
He is right, anon
I'm not mistyfag
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>>31197284
>>31197208
WTF?
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>>31197277
>Maybe I should have explained my reasons. I was thinking the same you said: anything is canon in the anime until we see "the end". In fact, Yajima doesn't work in the anime anymore and he was just stating his opinion. I'm glad he recognizes that Serena's love for Ash didn't come to fruition, he hopes it will in a future, but like you said the decision of one Director/writer is not the definitive one..

Look at this damage control. I swear you can't make this stuff up. This person thinks Yajima said "Ash and Serena's love didn't come into fruition" when that's exactly what the director implied.

Pokeshippers butt-hurt is hilarious.
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>>31197258
>>31197278
You seem to be under the wrong impression that I ship anything in this anime.>>31197279
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>>31197301
>>31197323
delicious tears
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Shipping in general was a fucking mistake.
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>>31197318
And that's not even Adamant's translation.
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>>31197333
Yeah probably tears of laughter, I laugh at all shippers for thinking their ship will sail and it will be funny to see amourshippers in the same situation as pokéshippers.

Everyone is replaced, always.
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>>31197374

>>31197353
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Did people really not expect Pokeshippers to be butt-hurt once they saw the Yajima interview? I knew this was going to happen, especially the line about "Ash and Serena will become a couple in the future" part.

As I said, you can't make this stuff up. Pokeshippers are still like this in the year 2017, they've been doing this for 14 years. Some things never change.
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>>31197382
Being totally fair people are free to ship anything they like, but when people are delusional and start thinking anything at all is canon then it's dumb af. The anime will never end.
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>>31197417
It's not about ending, it's about confirming what will happen in their future before it happens, and in this case Amour was confirmed.
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>>31197442
>>31197025
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>>31197442
A probability is not a confirmation
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>>31195382
use the pen tool for selection
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>>31197065
The salt is real.
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>>31197417
Just as long as Pokeshippers suffer forever, that's all that really matters. Ash could wind up with a Nurse Joy for all I care, I just don't want Pokeshippers to win.
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>>31197432
>>31197403
>>31197340
>>31197284
>>31197208
This turns me on for some reason
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>>31197490
Misty is dead, anon
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>>31197442
>Confirming the future
>When every season gets soft-reseted
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>>31197318

Someone shall create "Hall of Anal Devastation 3: Director's cut" ASAP. Poke/Pearl/TriPearl/Fujos meltdown is reaching galactic levels.
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>>31197467
A probability above zero is better than any other girl, even the current ones in the show, so if it's more probable than any other girl will ever get, then it's the only one that will get it.
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>>31197535
>so if it's more probable than any other girl will ever get, then it's the only one that will get it.
>will ever get

Oh hey, you can see the future? That must be pretty cool.
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>>31197501
Mami pls
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>To be honest, I don't think the anime should allow any of these shippings, including pearlshipping, on Pokémon. My reasoning is because by picking a girl for Ash to date, the anime would satisfy some fans and anger many. It would also come across as a jab to the other generations of Pokémon fans that did not get to see their girl date Ash since every girl represents a different time for Pokémon. If they were to pick Serena as Ash's future girlfriend, it would infuriate the fans of generations 1-5 and gen 7 on since most of those fans gravitate towards the girl of their favorite generation(not all of them, but most). And finally, they are 10 years old, 10! I find it silly that so many fans want to see 10 year olds date. I know Pearlshipping is between 10 year olds, but I support it because I support them being a couple in the future, plus I want to see Dawn return to the anime

You agree with this guys?
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>>31197557
No, Lillie won't have a subplot with Ash, and you already were BTFO by her episode, lilliecuck.
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>>31197557
Why would the writers backpedal after getting this much into this couple?
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>>31197564
This doesn't really matter. Most of the people who shipped Ash with May/Dawn or now with the SM girls don't mind Amour.
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>Daaae who like shipping?
>Ooga Booga where da Serena at?
>Repeat ad nauseum
Someone nuke this general, I swear I've seen these same posts at least 4 times.
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>>31197575
I don't give a shit if Lillie doesn't get a "subplot", just don't pretend the anime is ending after SM or that you can see the future, faggot.

>>31197585
The same reason Ash gets reset every season. To keep the anime going. The same people that worked on amour might not be the same that decide the end of the anime if it ever ends. Hell, even if they're the same people they are under no obligation to end it with Serena. None of this means anything until it actually happens.
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>>31197065
Let's battle those mistyfags
Satoshi: Serena I will protect you
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>>31197585
And why wouldn't they? All they would be pissing off from backpedaling are the shippers, while everyone else that doesn't care about shipping would be laughing their asses off. I mean, what are they going to do? Complain about it on tumblr and forums, &/or write bad fanfics/fanart about how it should have ended?
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Amour wasn't confirmed canon
Amour isn't canon
Amour will never be canon

Why shippers continue to spout this nonsense makes no sense to me. It's making it impossible to discuss anything here.

This is a never ending marketing show about a 10 year old boy who never ages, so why does this even matter so much to you fags?
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I just want pokeshippers to suffer
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>>31197705
They're shippers, anon. Did you honestly expect anything else from them?
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>>31197724

>>31197504
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>>31197647
I'm not talking about the anime ending, I don't care if it's ever shown on-screen. The point is that the writers said she'll come back to him years later, that it will ever be animated or not, it doesn't matter, as long as they never say that for any other girl, Serena is the only one who wins.
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>>31197705
>>31197333
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>>31197705
Nips believe it's canon and that's all that matters.
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>>31197751
>>31197786

Autism detected
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>>31197751
And that makes it canon now how...?
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>>31197742
No but I didn't expect this place to fall to tumblr levels of cringe. It's depressing to see this. Giving Serena a crush was a mistake because of this mess it created

>>31197777
How can I be in tears if I don't like any shippings? I don't think it belongs in the show period because this is what happens, it distracts from what the show is about
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>>31197705
Don't listen Mistyfags' shit Serena
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>>31197831
Because it can be assumed that it does happen.
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>>31197851
>>31197665

>>31197821
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>>31197842
This place has always been tumblr level of cringe. Always.
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>>31197860
Hahahaha oh wow.
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>>31197786
Which matters why? Nips believe a lot of things, many of them crazy and wrong. Something isn't canon simply because a lot of people believe it to be true

Why can't you all discuss something else about the show besides shipping or even something else in the XYZ director interview? Surely there is more there for you instead of dwelling on shipping
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>>31197860
God, I can actually see people like you actually waiting 20 years, going all 'Today's the day when Serena finally BTFO all of you whatever-fags!'
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>>31197777
>>31197333
>>31196888
>>31196777
>>31196688
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I ship Ash and Paul.
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>I-it's gonna happen guys, b-based Yajima said so!!!!
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5 FUCKING DAYS
You talk about Serena more than her own fans do.
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How do we get rid of all the autistic amourshitters from these threads? Literally worse than pokeshippers
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>>31197967
Kanda & Yajima, ignorant-kun
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>>31197860
At absolute best it's the director's personal headcanon. As long as the show continues without actually seeing it happen then it isn't canon. I thought you all understand basic anime terminology but you apparently don't

>>31197913
They are already becoming like the Misty-Ash shippers which is really sad. Serena's crush was cute and people should appreciate it for what it was but they are taking this way too far

This endgame discussion is totally pointless too since Ash will stay 10 forever on the show. If he doesn't get married on the show it doesn't affect the show, so why does it even matter?

This is why I hate shipping, it just creates these pointless fights while contributing nothing of value to the story/plot
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>>31198021

>>31197978
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>>31198028
I only started talking about it today because I am getting frustrated with it, anon. Nice try though

There is a battle episode coming this week, why can't we discuss that and what might happen in it instead of continuing to dwell on the shipping?
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>you're meant to hope and assume the two of them are going to become a couple later.
So why aren't you assuming they're going to become a couple?
This came directly from Yajima and was also approved by an unknown producer who might as well even be Yuyama himself.
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>>31198052
Im excited to see how the battle animation will look.
Im hoping that SM fluency makes it a worth while spectacle.
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>>31197978
+100 hours of damage control
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The most troubling aspect is how the person that translated the interview is a Serena-Ash shipper and he had to change the translation like 3 times already. How can we be sure it is accurate or that he didn't let his shipper bias influence how he translated it?
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>>31198147
Adamant?
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>>31198105
The SM animation is troubling in some respects, such as the errors in SM 05.

Why such sloppiness makes it to the screen is inexcusable

>>31198166
Yes that is who translated it right?
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>>31198147
The interview was never actually translated. We just got little tidbits of what Adamant thinks it meant.
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>>31198184
The dialogue on the kiss was actually translated.
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end game
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>>31198176
Some other people have already translated it, they all say the same thing.
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>>31198226
Can you please tell me where to find it? I would be curious to see what they said.
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>>31198226
There are already 4 versions
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>>31198226
They are all differing in grammar, specially in the couple bit.
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>>31198235
only if you share your opinion on misty's relationship with ash
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>Translated by "plxtreme"
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>>31198262
I don't think there was any romance relationship, that was all just shippers imagining it where there were none. Otherwise their friendship was okay I suppose
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>>31198377
This shit again
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>>31198377
Fuck off

This is what I mean when I say shipping is bad in this show.
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>>31198377
>>31198391
>>31198394
Don't talk with yourself.
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>>31198377
Threadly reminder that you can filter this shit by using the filename.
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Was there anything about league in the interview?
And Showcases too, I need know the name of person that came up with such boring adaptation of game contests.
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>>31198147
>doubting Adamant
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>>31198426
Soon
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>>31198420
What? The posts were made within one minute of each other you idiot
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>entire thread is literally just shitposters circlejerking about their bait and pretending to complain about how "nobody talks about anything but shipping here"
>even though nobody is actually talking about it besides them
This is just sad
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>>31198430
Even the best people have bias about some things.
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>>31198021
A headcanon is canon when it's the director's headcanon.
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>>31198464
Pathetic.
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>>31198474
Not really. How much do people still hold Shudou Takeshi's personal thoughts as absolute truth now?
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>>31198464
Cancerous haters
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>>31198504
Shudo died.
How long until Yajima dies?
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>>31198535
Twitter?
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>>31198504
That's right. Shudo is dead. He has nothing to say.
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>>31198439
Imagine if we had actual moderation.
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>>31198558
Does it matter when he died? Shudou left the show, that is what matters. Is Yajima still on the show?
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>>31198423
>implying I can't change the filename every thread
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>>31198581
Who knows.
He still tweets shit about Pokemon and the SM anime.
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>>31198581
Yajima is still working on anipoke, just like Tomiyasu in XY.
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>>31198646
Source?
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>>31198673
His ass.
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>>31198581
Who said, that Yayima isn't working anymore? Those fake rumors like the rumor about Tomioka...
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>>31198690

>>31198673
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Friendship ended with SERENA

Now

MALLOW

is my

best friend
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>>31198728
anon..
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Hau when?
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>>31198690
>Those fake rumors like the rumor about Tomioka...
Based Tomioka, never leave us
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>>31198673
Does we have a source about Yajima, that he isn't in the show anymore? Otherwise is that just a rumor, like the rumor about Tomioka. So, who said, that Yajima isn't anymore in the show?
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>>31198825
Why would anyone want him in the show?
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>>31198825
He's dead, Jim
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>>31198838
He has the best battle theme.
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>>31198837
>New director
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>>31198837
No, it's shitposters trolling.
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>>31198859
>Hau has the best battle theme
>not YA BOI
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>>31198868
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=93196
hmmm
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>>31198888
*clap clap*
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>>31198673
https://twitter.com/tetsuo_yajima/status/794852216444100608

Yajima is still storyboarding.
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>>31198888
N-NANI?
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>>31198912
Fug.
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>>31198912
Really?
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>>31198888
witnessed
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>>31198912
Well, that should shut down THAT type of bait.
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>>31198888
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>>31198912
It was obvious, just like Tomiyasu in XY >>31198902
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>>31198888
CHECKED
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>>31198888
digits:

[X] checked
[_] not checked
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>>31198912
This is him saying that he's working on the story board of a title he will announce in the future. Nothing about anipoke. If it was Pokémon he would say it.
He also says here that he's doing very little work on it.
Please don't bait the ignorant with untranslated tweets.
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>>31198912
Who thinks that he quitted? Of course he can still work on a couple of episodes.

It's just that he's not the one that handles the whole series anymore
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>>31198888
What did Kek mean by this?
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>>31198888
Damn
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>>31198978
XY team:
>Executive director: Kunihiko Yuyama
>Director: Tetsuo Yajima
>Series Construction: Atsuhiro Tomioka
>Character Design: Toshihito Hirooka
>Art Director: Katsuyoshi Kanemura
>Color Keys: Noriyuki Yoshino
>Director of Photography: Hisao Shirai
>Editor: Toshio Henmi
>Music: Shinji Miyazaki
>Sound Recording Director: Masafumi Mima

Where's Tomiyasu?
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What's this about the director?
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>>31199010
Wat
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>>31198888
>>31199012
KYS
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>>31198912
>>31198978
https://twitter.com/nishiyan0120/status/794885976162123776

Nishiya RT'd it too saying he's also participating, and the only current series they both worked on together is Pokemon.
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>>31199019
why won't the anime do anything cool like this
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>>31199061
I'm pretty sure they're talking about this "three cups of tea" project. They're both retweeting several sketches of this.
https://twitter.com/three_tee_0816
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SM has less staff
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>>31199127
src
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>>31199115
What is this ?
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>>31199115
Yeah they both announced it on December 15.
https://twitter.com/nishiyan0120/status/809307204272603136
https://twitter.com/tetsuo_yajima/status/809319787012571136

I think this means they're both not working on anipoke ATM.
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>>31199192
It seems to be an original project that ATM is only in the drafting stage waiting for it to be pitched as a possible animation.
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>>31199206
It's perfectly possible to work on multiple shows at the same time, anon.

Remember Scott keeps spamming about how Tomioka works on Dragonball
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I want to know who's the producer that also answered some questions.
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>>31199236
And Omode.
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>>31199236
Sure, it's possible. It just doesn't seem likely seeing their latest tweets. They've never really been secretive about their work. Why would they hide the fact that they're working on SM?
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>>31199239
I think was Shukichi Kanda, but who knows.
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why did Yajima do the interview and not Tomioka? Tomioka is series constructor and head writer. For example, it was Tomioka who wrote the last XY episode, wouldnt it be better to ask him about that scene?
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>>31199236
Tomioka wrote the first 5 episodes of the Goku Black arc in a row.
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>>31199270
Yajima didn't even have a twitter account until the end of XYZ.
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>>31199270
Why would they go out of their way to mention it?
We didn't know Tomioka was working on SM either until the credits for SM5 came out.
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Which one of you geniuses made this new thread and then forgot to link it here? Now it's been spammed like crazy because nobody ever linked it here: >>31198840
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>>31199321
Okay dude so if you ever see them in the credits then they're working on it, easy as that.
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>>31199321
We didn't know Tomiyasu was working on XY until XY60
>>31199284
Yajima > Tomioka
Tomiyasu > Matsui
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>>31199275
Unlikely.
He just came up with the idea.
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>>31199270
Actually Nishiya did some work for the first episode https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/27469

But no words for what's next.
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>>31197564
>ash travels through 7 regions
>still 10
This bugs me more than these ship fags
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>>31199340
Fuck.

That was me, sorry.
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>>31199410
when I say "first" I mean premiere. Well, you get it.
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>>31199440
Sasuga, anon. Here's your prize.
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>>31199421
>replying
Go back to where you came from.
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In conclusion...
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>>31199546
Future canon.
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>>31199546
It's "canon" but it doesn't matter because anipoke will never end and we will never see them together
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>>31199579
Never give up until the very end anon.
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>>31199594
He's right, anon
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>>31199579
>will never end
Rica is not eternal, anon.

>we will never see them together
You don't know, you're not Tomiyaku/Matsui/Tomioka/etc
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>They think the staff will defend their shit.
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>>31199732
>defend
what
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New thread when?
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>>31199732
They will.
The kiss scene got too much attention in Japan.
It was insane.
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>>31199822
Prove it
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>>31199858
>One of the things that makes XY and XY&Z feel so new and refreshing is how Satoshi is depicted as a very gallant and dependable boy, one that Serena admired and had a crush on even before they started traveling together. It's precisely because of these people that Satoshi and Serena's farewell scene in "No End to the Zeros! Till the Day We Meet Again!!" has become so famous.
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>>31199858
You also have the statement from that magazine saying how famous the scene is.
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>>31199893
I don't understand why SM exists
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>>31200119
The only answer is the smart ass answer: The sun and moon game.
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>>31200119
It shows that world of pokemon is wide and deep and has no end.
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>>31199858
Btfo.
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>>31199916
Wow. This is awesome.
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So I've not watched Pokemon since since I was but a bairn, I think I watched most of Diamond and Pearl.

Netflix UK has S1&2 of XY, I am missing much of value by just jumping in there?
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>>31200353
Remember who the target audience is
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>>31200433
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>>31200514
Kek, delete
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You guys do realize there's a new thread...right?
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>>31200560
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>>31200433
BTFO.
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WTF happened in this thread?
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>>31200803
Shitposting.
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