ITT: Small changes that would make a Pokemon viable Dusknoir

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Arbok gets +20 HP and +20 Speed, HA is changed to Strong Jaw

Hypno gets +10 Sp. Attk., HA changed to Bad Dreams

Meganium changed to Grass/Dragon, learns Dragon Dance

Crobat gets Swords Dance and Crunch, new ability: Gale Wings

Furret's Run Away changed to Fluffy, +10 Speed and +10 HP, learns Swords Dance, Belly Drum, Headbutt, Play Rough, Baby Doll Eyes, Slack Off, Glare and Sleep Talk

>>31169968
Very small changes anon thank you
>gale wings
Great ability for a revenge killer in a Stealth Rocks meta

>>31169425
Dusknoir should get huge power

>>31169968
eh, not sure Meganium would be much better with two new weaknesses and 4x Ice. Maybe Grass/Fairy with Quiver Dance, which is a semi-defensive move

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20 more attack and head smash...or just head smash

>>31170056
[physical attacker] should get huge power
there fixed everyone
can i get my job at game freak now

>>31170060
Serperior makes more sense as a dragon, stab contrary outrage might be a bit much

>>31170101
outrage doesn't lower stats, you might be thinking of draco meteor and yeah that would be fucking insane

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I would just like to make note that I'm very glad that Gigalith got some buffs the past two gens.

In X and Y, he got 10+ to his Special Defense, which allowed him to decently use Assault Vest. In Sun and Moon he got Sand Stream.

He's not really the defacto Sand Stream User, but he's good at it, and I'm glad that he's actually usable now..

Perhaps Girafarig could be at least RU with +10 SpAtk and Speed, and a good ability

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>>31169425
>bulkier Dusknoir
but I don't want Dusklops to lose it's niche

>>31169968
>Bad Dreams Hypno
fucking awesome holyshit


Mine:

- Torterra gets Shore Up.

- Vespiquen gets +20 HP, HA changed to Oblivious.

- Luxray gets +10 speed and Parting Shot.

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>gets +20 hp
>gets recover or a proper recovery move
All it really needs. With those it would probably be usable other then setting up sticky web.

>>31170169
I'm still a bit upset they didn't run with the lore and make Gigalith a special attacker. I mean, it would probably be worse, but at least it'd be unique and not just Unovan Golem.

>>31171239
Both dusclopes and dusknoir are garbage. Even with eviolite dusclopes is PU trash. Dusknoir needs buffs desperately.

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Give it an ability that's not completely useless. Something that would give it a niche where it's not outclassed by Zard Y in every way possible except for Speed.

>>31171612
Sheer force
boost both stabs
boost sludge bomb for fairies
it probably out class zard y if it got drought for its 15 more bst in speed
but sheer force suits it more

>>31169425
I'd rather Dusknoir got an ability that makes it immune to Taunt than Levitate. Stat boosts still needed though.

>>31171612
I really would have liked for this thing to get No Guard so it could spam Inferno with reckless abandon.

>>31172115
Yeah that's what I was thinking about but it would be incredibly broken 2bh

>>31169968
Imagine if Run Away doubled the user's speed instead of that guaranteed exit from wild battle shit

>access to Dragon Dance

>>31171668
Sheer Force is only fantastic, because most users can hold a Life Orb for the extra oomph. A mega, sadly, cannot.

>>31169425
Mismagius gets Pixelate and Hyper voice.

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>>31170088
>Huge power Mega FUG

>>31172337
That's too OP. Better would be making the pokemon immune to trapping moves.

>>31172436
It's still a 30% boost to most of Houndoom's Movepool for the low, low cost of not applying status to things that just died anyways.

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>>31172506
>Mega Fug, not content to break Ubers, breaks AG.

>>31172436
even with out Life orb boost its a good ability
mega camerupt hits like a truck and its only 5 bst higher then houndoom

also one shots azumarill with Sludge bomb

Genesect gets +2 speed.

Probably won't get a smaller yet more significant change than that. He'd never get out of Ubers again!

>>31169968
Crobat is fine as is, it doesn't need that.

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>itt people post pokemon that are still perfectly usable in UU and RU

This should be NU and PU only.

Anyways, +40 speed, +30 special attack, Toxic Thread is now an entry hazard, IE a fusion of toxic spikes and sticky web.

>>31173381
I was the guy who posted M-Houndoom and I'm aware that it's usable despite its ability.
I was rather talking about doubles. Why should I Use Houndoom when Charizard Y exists, with a better ability and higher SpA?

Wow guys... Must suck to be a smogonfag. Cant think outside of tiers.

>>31174469
xD

>>31169425
Lickilicky
HP: 120 (+10)
Attack: 95 (+10)
Defense: 100 (+5)
Sp. Atk: 85 (+5)
Sp. Def: 95
Speed: 40 (-10)

Access to Slack Off and Play Rough.

>>31174469
Wow guys... must suck to be a vgcfag. Cant think outside of the 12 viable Pokemon.

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>>31169425
+10 Atk
Extremespeed

>>31171239
Torterra already has Synthesis.

>>31174743
Wow... must suck to be a smogonfag. The only think he has outside of tiers is VGC.

Pro Tip: You can also play by your own rules

A trick room similiar buff which switches all Defenses with offenses and vice versa.

>mfw 165 Defense Special Attacker Gallade.

Also bring in an item which extends the duration of those Trick Rooms by 3 turns

>>31169425
>nothing to address complete lack of offensive options.
100 attack, even with a decent movepool (elemental punches, edgequake) but no STAB is what hurts dusknoir.

That and Knock off.

And every generic water mon does better as a physical tank just due to scald being so much better than WoW.

>>31174981
Dusknoir doesn't get Shadow Punch?

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Give it reliable recovery and a bit more HP

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Weavile should have Moxie as an ability.

>>31175055
*Good STAB
60BP is awful for use as a main STAB move without a secondary effect or an ability like Technician.

>>31175055
60 BP is terrible for its only physical stab option.
>phantom force
terrible as well.

>>31175112
Weavile is fine. He is perfectly viable as is.

>it's a Flying-Rock type with rock head
>It doesn't get head smash or even brave bird
You guys know the one

>>31175912
Is its best flying STAB coincidentally Aerial Ace?

Give Gumshoos and Vikavolt more speed jesus it's a mongoose and a flying railgun

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Give this guy a partner which automatically sets up trick room whenever entering the field.

>>31174784
synth is way worse than shore up though, especially in a meta with pelliper occasionally showing up even on non-rain teams. Yeah it's not a huge buff but OP said small

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Regigigas only needs one of two buffs to get out of PU

>give him rest
seriously why the fuck does he not have rest why is GF so afraid of this mon.

>make his ability only half speed

personally I think he should get both buffs but with just one he could jump up a tier or two easily with a set similar to snorlax

>>31176636
>why is GF so afraid of this mon.
because back when it was introduced 160 base attack was a big deal

>>31176636
Just give him a primal form.

>>31172506
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Multiscale Lugia: 428-504 (102.8 - 121.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Vikavolt +40 speed

Shedinja: Make it immune to status, weather, and entry hazards

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He's not unusable, in fact he's pretty okay, but I really wish he had any good utility outside of being a curse abuser. It makes me sad since Snorlax has been my bro since Gen I but Bewear comes along and is everything I've ever wanted Snorlax to be moveset/stats wise.

>>31179709
What would you change?

>>31175912
Why would you ever use a move that could activate defeatist

>>31172888
My god, man

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Give Slaking Skill Swap

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>>31169425
HA: Dancer

Typhlosion

+7 to HP and Defense or +17 to Defense
Can learn Power Gem and can be taught Dark Pulse

>anything bulky gets Recover, Slack Off, or some other reliable healing move

>>31176636
>give the thing that's been asleep for centuries rest
This nigga just wants to get around why are you trying to put it back to sleep?

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It's time.
Old stats:
HP: 73
Attack: 100
Defense: 60
Sp. Atk: 100
Sp. Def: 60
Speed: 65
New Stats (specially based):
HP: 73
Attack: 60
Defense: 60
Sp. Atk: 100
Sp. Def: 70
Speed: 105
Alternatively, New stats (physically based):
HP: 73
Attack: 100
Defense: 60
Sp. Atk: 60 (-40)
Sp. Def: 70 (+10)
Speed: 105 (+40)
Either way, also becomes poison/dragon type
Special seviper already gets flamethrower, giga drain and dark pulse, but let's add dragon pulse (and of course draco meteor). Abilities are acceptable as is. Helps it stand out a bit more from arbok, hits a solid speed tier, and 100 special attack isn't terrible. Could work as a scarfer or just good ol' LO.

Remember what I said about making it different from arbok? The physical one just goes ahead and outclasses it directly. Access to outrage, dragon rush (for fun with coil), and gunk shot (why the fuck didn't it have that already), and sucker punch via egg moves. Boom; you've got a decent SD or coil sweeper.

>>31169968
Crobat doesn't get crunch? Could've swore it did.

>>31171274
I dunno, actually good abilities would be good too.

Imagine a Harvest, Mold Breaker, or (with the HP buff) Unaware set