>slightly above average attack >mediocre defenses >shit speed

>>31163700
Porygon-Z

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>useful signature move or ability
>shit stats

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>speed too high for trick room
>speed also too low to outspeed anything that isn't a shitmon

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>>31163700
>average mixed offenses
>bad defenses
>shit speed
>terrible defensive typing
>both STABs are resisted by the hot new type shared by the other set of 570 BST mons
>but its HP is the 3rd highest stat in the game so surely it's on the same level as Celesteela and the others

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>it's another "this pokemon would be viable if it weren't for those goddamn fairies" episode

>>31163804
hungry hombre deserved better

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>>31163724
>good stats and typing
>shitty moveset

>Decent defenses
>Low HP and terrible defensive typing

>Good design
>shit stats or movepool

What's her name, /vp/?

>>31164509
Crabominable.

>>31164552

I said good design

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>>31163700
thats komala

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>>31164509
I'm still mad.

>Big physical movepool
>Fuck all physical attack stat to use it with
>Big special attack stat
>Fuck all special attacks to use it with
>mega does fuck all to help its physical moves and gives it an ability that only further helps its shallow special movepool

Say it with me, /vp/

>>31163700

You are a faggot

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>>31164720
Hey lightning rod is totally a good mega ability compared to any other possibility.

>>31163804
Guzzzzzz

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>fantastic special movepool
>physical attacker

>has no moves that are usable in battle
you know the one

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>It's a trade evolution mon but you have no friends

>>31163700
>Not even Trick Room saves it

>>31165632
All of them ;.;

>physical mon
>best STAB option is 70 BP

>>31165685
Tsareena

>Its coverage options are Shadow Ball.

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>well-distributed stats that are appriopriate for tanking or sweeping
>ice typing

>have an ability and/or move that is better on sunny day
>is weak to fire

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>>31165877

>>31163700
>>31165651
Literally Banette

>>31165877
>Godlike physical bulk
>good attack
>mediocre but workable special bulk
>reliable recovery
>rapid spin
>decent offensive movepool
>ice type

I don't know how they managed to fuck up what would normally be a good mon just with the typing.

>>31166090
I forgot that Avalugg even gets recover, that's a damn shame. Ice is the cancer of this franchise.

>>31163804
feels bad man

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>Good defenses
>Shit HP so they don't matter
>Slow as shit
>One decent attacking stat with no movepool to abuse it
>Useless ability

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>It's a physical attacker Electric type episode
>It's a "defensive" Ice-type episode
>It's a "Pokemon that would be a shitton better if it had access to a certain move(s)" episode

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>>31166274
Please just give it like Iron Fist as an HA or let it learn Phantom Force, it's just not fair.

>>31163724
Cotton Candy is cute!

C U T E !

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>>31163700
>Coolest looking pokemon of its type since gen V
>Great type
>Evolution mechanic avaliable only in the last area of the game
>Insane offense
>Great ability

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>it's a Pokemon they gave a spotlight in promotional material
>even give it a signature ability

>shit fucking stats

Every single fucking time. I am not even a competitive guy, but there are some Pokemon that just don't hang in end/post-game stuff.

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>>31165532
>fantastic physical movepool
>special attacker

Whose the sick FUCK at Gamefreak who does this to Sceptile?

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>>31164709
>signature move requires sun to be useful
>doesn't get chlorophyll, even though her speed is terrible
What were they thinking with this Pokemon?

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>good stats
>great typing
>only steel, electric, and normal attacks

At least he's got gear shift and gear grind.

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>Decent to Good Attack stat
>No moves
>Outclassed by another Pokemon in its generation
>Continues to receive less moves than PS4
>Finally gets one move, but outclassed by 30 others now

>>31164509
Ampharos

>>31170347
Flareon?

>>31166082
Banette is meant to fuck shit up in 3v3 singles as a revenge killer mega

Brave/Adamant
252HP 252A
Sucker Punch
Phantom Force
Destiny Bond
WoW/T-wave/Shadow Sneak/Filler

Get your revenge kill and mega with Sucker Punch, then go for a Phantom Force as 99% of shitters on cart don't know it hits through Protect/Detect. Then you can either alternate Destiny Bond and Phantom Force or try to spread some status or something. I'm partial to Snatch as the fourth move because grabbing a Swords Dance or Substitute and watching the salty japs ragequit is a beautiful thing

>>31165685
>>31165747
>tfw your best coverage move outdamages your own best STAB move

>>31163804
Guzzlord, more like Shitlord

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>looks cool
>is actually shit

>>31164709
>Mantis
>Slow
>They did this 3 times

>>31167933
Vikavolt?

>>31171095
Damn dude I can totally relate

>>31171095
Fucking Vikavolt

>>31170122
>gear miss!

>>31169818
Lurantis.

>>31171095
This really gets me, I personally think Ledian and Farfetch'd should have it way better and are cool concepts but they're some of the worst fully evolved Pokemon in the game.

>>31163984
Kommo-o?

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>>31163724
>tfw Salazzle gets Corrosion
>tfw Toxapex gets Merciless
>tfw both would have improved IMMENSELY if they swapped exclusive abilities

Toxapex is good with Regenerator but Toxapex with Corrosion and Salazzle with Merciless could've been amazing for both.

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>It's a "now we know why it's extinct" Pokemon

>>31164509
Gumshoos

>>31165632
my girlfriend and I traded our Haunters back and forth last night

Just be yourself bro

>It's literally Mega Metagross without the Mega

>>31171392
or mega salazzle gets merciless

>>31169521
>tfw 2 of your favorites are typhlosion and sceptile Just end it now

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>high attacking stats
>3 resists, 1 immunity, no weakness
>decent coverage (good for an electric type)
>still RU

>It's another doubles-only gimmick mon.
>Only passable stats are Sp. Atk and Speed.
>Is literally a dancer.
>Does not learn Quiver Dance.

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>>31163700
>Return is its only coverage move

>Speed stat is 1-3 points short of a good speed tier

>Loses speed on evolution

>Loses attack on evolution

>A useful stat doesn't increase at all during evolution

>BST doesn't change on evolution

>Loses unique typing on evolution

>Sub-450 BST and no evolution

>Sub-450 BST AFTER evolution

>No weaknesses but gets 2hko'd by neutral hits by uninvested attacks while not being able to 1hko even on SE attacks due to being a physical electric type

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>>31163700
>Defensive
>Shit speed
>Support mon
>Grass/Ghost
They literally did this 4 times in a row. Literally defensive Ice type 2.0 REEEEEEEEEEEEE

late to the sun and moon party
Is it worth spaming reloads to get a starter with a decent nature?

>>31173724
no, all starters this gen are garbage, better to just box them after you get a decent team going.

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>95 all around
>No moves
>Ability is fucking nothing because Memories are useless

>>31163700
Entire generation 3

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>get an Alolan version
>its actually worse than the original

>>31163700
Toucannon?

>>31171095
Golispod

>>31174100
Dugtrio?

>>31164509
Zebstrika

>>31164509
Tropius

>>31168007
Zoroark?

>>31173611
Who?

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>Good offensive typing that is shit defensively on a defensive mon

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>it's slow as shit
>it has shit defenses
>is an ice type
>doesn't even have priority to chip away at something before it dies
>can't even get it until the endgame
What sick fuck thought this was a good idea?

>>31173724
Yes. Modest for Popplio, Adamant for Litten, Adamant for Rowlet.

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>electric type physical attacker
>rock type special attacker

>>31174198
>rock type special attacker
Why are you complaining about something that does exist?

>>31174207
er I meant doesn't

>>31174180
Literally every "defensive" Ice pokemon

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>its only usable in Trick Room

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>>31174242
>not even Trick Room can save it

>>31174218
Nihilego

>>31174253
Not a Pokemon :^)

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>great base stat total
>too well rounded to excel in any major area
>almost nonexistent movepool

>>31174218
>Omastar
>Lunatone
>Aurorus
>Magcargo
>only one of them gets Power Gem

>>31174179

>Return is its only coverage move

Klingklang

>Speed stat is 1-3 points short of a good speed tier
Genesect, Heliolisk, Durant etc

>Loses speed on evolution
Gen 7

>Loses attack on evolution
Trapinch -> Vibrava

>A useful stat doesn't increase at all during evolution
Duasion -> Reuniclus

>BST doesn't change on evolution
Scyther ->Scizor,

>Loses unique typing on evolution
Surskit -> Masquerain

>Sub-450 BST and no evolution
Plusle, Spinda, and a surprising amount of shitmons

>Sub-450 BST AFTER evolution
Ledian, Delcatty

>No weaknesses but gets 2hko'd by neutral hits by uninvested attacks while not being able to 1hko even on SE attacks due to being a physical electric type
>>31173486

>>31174327

Scizor is still fucking good though. Klinklang gets Wild Charge as well, but that doesn't help.

>>31174198
>>rock type special attacker
the only rock moves with 100% accuracy and over 50 BP are ancient power and power gem

>>31173624
>Dhelmise
>defensive

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>Bug/Grass

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>>31174522
>Bug/Flying

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>>31163700
>great defensive stats/defensive typing/useful defensive ability
>less than 60 HP

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>>31174596
I fail to see the problem here

>>31174596
>Cofagrigus

>>31174612
I guess it can work if you have all three and Regenerator

>>31174646
Boy Regenerator is the useful defensive ability

>>31174242
>too fast for trick room
>too slow for anything else

>>31164085
>Those feels when caught a shiny trubbish with great IV's
As an impish weak armor Garbador, she still murders fairies, even a Jojo once. Just wish it had poison jab/knock off/any physical moves. Or even a special attacker. Garbodor's special learn/tm set is amazing.

>>31165532
>Garbodor

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>>31174522
>>31174542
>rock/ice

>>31174113
Dugtrio and Raticate

>SLOW
>BULKY
>ICE TYPE

>>31163700
>great defenses
>shit HP and a shallow movepool with no reliable recovery

Motherfucker