/btg/ - Battle Tree General

diaper beam lol

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>Quick claw activated.
>Opponent used she-

LGYW-WWWW-WWW3-TYEP
>my punishment for injecting and copying another anon's team

I deserved all of this

Doubles:
Goodra
Modest
Hydration
252 HP, 252 SPATK
-The seed that raises spDef in terrain
-Dragon pulse
-Sludge bomb
-Rest
-Thunder
Goodra's partner is a Tapu Bulu. When Goodra is weak switch to drizzle pelipper and use Rest. Goodra is literally unkillable. 4th member doesn't even matter.

>>31154561
I'll try that eventually, thanks Anon.

>>31154561
needs Assault Vest imo

>>31154876
and rain dance

>>31154876
Assault vest on a rest mon?

>>31154876
Are you retarded?

What kind of Celesteela is best for Super Singles?

>reach Round 30 on Doubles
>it's Cynthia
>sends out Milotic and Flinch Bird
>make the brilliant choice to attack Milotic
>Trick Room isn't up thanks to Flinch Bird
>Get owned by M-Lucario and Scarfchomp

It was a good lesson at least.

I was thinking mega special Lucario so aura spheres.
That would work well, right?

>>31154904
>>31154951
>They don't get the joke.

>>31154561
Thanks I was looking for a 4th to go with Pelipper, Tapu Koko, and A Raichu.

Speaking of, what's the best moveset on Raichu in a Rain team?

Is Taunt, Ice Shard, Ice Punch, Throat Chop good on a 6 IV Weavile in the BT or should I rebreed one with Icicle Crash?

Trying to make it through Multis, but I'm losing motivation. The furthest I reach is around the 30s at best.

>>31155783
What partner are you using?

>>31155802
Wally with Magnezone and Mega Gallade

>>31155852
Try to get Colress with Megagross if you can. That thing makes multis easy. I didn't even have to do that much since Colress did most of the work.

>>31155872
Been trying, but the most luck I've had is him keeping Megagross in the back of his team so I still don't get it when I scout him.

>>31155937
Lead with a Poison type.

>>31155950
I'll try that out, thanks

can a team with salamance, kartana and aegislash work in 3v3? if not, what should i be looking to build? i think for this mode 3 offensive pokemon should be fine

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>Have to breed for egg move
>Have to breed for good IVs
>EV training
>More grinding in battle tree to get item needed for set
It just doesn't fucking end.

>>31156408
>Soundhax is out so pkhex is easy on every fucking 3DS version
>He's too autistic to inject
im laffin

>>31154314
>>Have to breed for egg move
>>Have to breed for good IVs
>>EV training
>>More grinding in battle tree to get item needed for set
>It just doesn't fucking end.


Just use other people's breeding rejects/clones and use Pelago to EV train. Battle-ready mons in 2 days without you having to do anything. It's never been easier

>>31156696
So what? i just wait for giveaways on /vp/ or just spam wondertrade?

>>31156408
Just inject it lmao

Thunder or Thunderbolt and Aloraichium on A Raichu in Rain and Electric Terrain?

What are good singles partners for Mega Zam?

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>>31154314

Just hit 50 in super multiples. Partner was Cynthia. A few close calls but overall 6/10 difficultywise thanks to her mega luke/togekiss move coverage. I used mega metagross and choice band garchomp.

For those running Celesteela, what EVs do you use?

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>>31156573
>>31157007
>Too autistic
just too fucking stupid to figure shit out even with tutorials. Don't even know where to fucking start or how to use homebrew.

>>31158053
There's like 10 steps and tutorials walk you through step by step. Even an idiot should be able to follow instructions.

at 81 with this team yesterday but took a break. I bred up a salamence to try later but kang has been great for focus sash/stury and fake out to check bulkiness/leftovers and go from there. AI usually tries to spam close combat/focus blast on the first mon or switch in and abusing aegislash helps cover kang. Chomp usually just cleans up or comes in for the 100% accuracy if needed to avoid hax.

Kangaskhan @ Kangaskhanite
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Return

Smogonsword @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe (Mine's got speed IVs but it's been fine)
- Shadow Ball
- Shadow Sneak
- Flash Cannon
- King's Shield

Garchomp @ Rockium-Z
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone miss (with rockium-z for the 100% accuracy works well for me)
- Outrage
- Dragon Claw (could use any coverage move really hardly use this)

What is everyone planning on using once the bank gets updated?
>Hyper Voice Sylveon
>Hyper Voice Mega Salamence

I am so fucking done
I just got swept by a god damn Sableye at 32 wins.
Confuse Ray spammed
Pokemon hit themselves almost everytime and the times they didn't they fucking missed.

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>Doubles
>Finally managing to sweep every round
>Oricorio + Ribombee
>>Mimikyu and Tsareena as the third and fourth.

>Blue
>Blue sent Arcanine and Pidgeot
>Pidgeot stole Oricorio's Sharp Beak (I still haven't got enough items)
>Arcanine unleashed his Z-Move in Ribombee before the Quiver Dance
>>Oricorio used Revelation Dance
>>Pidgeot survived by a bit
>>Sent Mimikyu
>Set another Revelation Dance
>>Blue withdraw Pidgeot and sent Rhyperior
>>It doesn't affect the foe Rhyperior
>Mimikyu's disguise gets busted by Arcanine
>Rock Slide
>>Oricorio Fainted
>Sent Tsareena
>>Arcanine used Burn Up
>Tsareena Fainted
>Mimikyu's attack missed
>Rock Slide
>>Mimikyu Fainted

What are the natures I should aim for regarding Ultra Beasts?

Got to 88 with.

Aegislash@Weakness Policy
Quest
Max sp.atk/hp
-Flash cannon
-Shadow Ball
-King's Shield
-Shadow Sneak

Megamence
Adamant
Max attack and speed.
-Dragon Claw
-Double Edge
-DD
-Earthquake

Top Lel @ Choice Specs
Modest
Choice Scarf
Max Sp.atk/Speed
-Psychic
-Moonblast
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball.


Post doubles teams please. All I got so far is Thunder Koko and Drizzle Pelliper.

>>31158549

Timid for Nihilego.
Adamant for Buzzswole.
Naughty/Naive for Pheromosa.
Timid/Modest for Xuritree (aim for HP Ice over I.v's)
Adamant/Jolly Kartana.
Little experience with Celesteela so can't say. Impish at a guess.

Guzzlord is crap so no fucking clue.

>>31158549
Nihilego = Timid or Modest
Pheromosa = Naive
Buzzwole = Adamant
Xurkitree = Modest
Kartana = Jolly
Celesteela = Incredibly versatile so you have a set for almost every nature
Guzzlord = the trash

>>31158715
Guzzlord probably wants Brave or Quiet.

>>31158715
>>31158734
>>31158790
Thanks :)

Made it to 42 wins before they started getting crits on every move

Tapu Lele/M. Metagross/Hydreigon

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I started using AV Buzzwole as a lead with Z-Fly Salamence and standard Koko in the back. Gains mosquito has too much balk to get knocked out in one hit and it heals itself with Leech Life. The team only struggles against 1st turn stall and fairies.
>Already counted 7 hail teams, all of them having Fridge Rotom
>Game is throwing Stall, Sturdy mons and Protect Sash Magic Guard Alakazam to counter Mosquito. Fell Stinger has great synergy against this, but might want to switch it for Poison Jab or TPunch later when megas become more common.

>>31158477
Blaziken, Mega Blaziken and Infernape.
I always end up needing Fire/Fighting coverage to patch up holes in my teams.

>Mega Lopunny used hi-jump kick
>Mega Lopunny used hi-jump kick
>Mega Lopunny used hi-jump kick

Does doubles use top tier mons right out of the gate? I'm playing normal doubles to unlock super doubles and I'm already running into shit like Salamence or someone uses the same Snorlax Red always uses against me at match 50 in singles.

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>>31154314
Not sure if this is helpful to any anons, but here's my team that just swept Normal Singles without any issues and is doing very well on Super Singles.

Tapu Lele @ Life Orb
Hasty
252 SpA/4 SpD/252 Spe
-Nature's Madness
-Psychic
-Taunt
-Moonblast

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Relaxed
Ability: Merciless
252 HP/ 252 Def / 4 SpD
-Poison Jab
-Scald
-Recover
-Baneful Bunker

Hydreigon @ Leftovers
Modest
4 HP/ 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Flash Cannon
-Draco Meteor
-Dark Pulse
-Flamethrower

Summary: This was an easy team to throw together and after reading online how strong Tapu Lele was under Psychic Terrain (and seeing how great in Battle Tree a Fairy/Dragon/Poison core was) I went ahead and built this thing. Tapu Lele is straight up powerful as a lead. You can use Psychic to OHKO or 2HKO many weaker mons with Life Orb boost. If the opponent sends in something bulkier that isn't weak to Psychic, I would use Nature's Madness instead and then followup with Psychic -- which was usually more than enough damage to KO. Moonblast is for things like Dark types and Dragons, which seemed to pop up a lot versus this team. Poison and other Fairies were common as well, but those were easily dealt with by using Psychic or switching out. Hydreigon works great as a back up sweeper. He can also resist most things that are going to hurt Tapu (Ghost, Dark) and can retaliate. Draco Meteor is a no-brainer to finish off the last Pokemon as well. As far as Toxapex, the only reason I went with Merciless and not Regenerator was because I didn't have the HA on any Mareanies. That said, Merciless came in handy a few times once Baneful Bunker activated. Truth be told, I usually just relied on Toxapex to soak up Steel/Poison hits and stall out other Pokemon like Lucario who seemed to appear often. Abusing Scald for Burn is fun too. I'm trying Toxic over Poison Jab in Supers with some success as well, just to speed up stall. And if a Ground-type comes in, I just go right back to Hydreigon.

>>31159312
Also, Hasty is not the best nature for Tapu Lele but it's still a + Speed nature and she can survive non-super effective hits surprisingly well despite having a - Defense growth. That is, if she ever does get struck -- just play SMART with switch ins and you'll be ok. Usually I find that even with the Hasty nature, she's fast enough and has enough defenses to take a hit or two and dish out one or two KOs before going down. Ideally she'd be Timid, but I caught her before I bothered to start using Synchronize Abras and soft-resetting for the right nature.

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>legendaries are illegal
>trainer sent out Latias!

Could anyone drop a Walrein set please?

>>31159712

Don't use Walrein. Just because it's a common annoyier in faciliteis doesn't make it good.

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>Veterans with 3 legendaries

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>>31155001
>tfw get ScarfChomp and Spiritomb
>Spiritomb heals me with Pain Split
Every mon with Pain Split I've seen uses it on turn 1.

What are good natures for the Tapus?

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I really wish earthquake was a reliable move (note the sarcasm).
When hours go down the drain.

KJVG- WWWW-WWW3-UDKH

>>31160916
>losing to Red because of brightpowder

I'm so sorry anon

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Does anyone experiment with their leads? My team right now is Mimikyu/Mega Lucario/Tapu Lel, and whenever I lead with Mimikyu, the game never counters me. The last battle was Scrafty, Hydreigon and Mismagius, three Pokemon that Mimikyu shits all over.

But I tried leading with Lucario today and got nothing but bullshit. Hippowdon, Gyarados, Skarmory and other crap that gives my Lucario a hard time. I had like 5 really hard fights in a row, switched back to Mimikyu, and then got easy fights.

Hello /btg/, Looking to train up some Battle Tree mons including Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele.

What nature am I looking for on each? I'm hoping for the ability to switch between multiple different sets when the mood strikes.

So far I'm leaning Timid on both, but Modest Lele seems a bit more versatile.

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How do you guys handle your three spots in terms of role? I usually do two sweepers and a wall.

>>31161778
I'd say it's more about running a standard core of sorts, usually comprised of goodstuffs Mons.

Salamence + Aegislash + Fairy is one I see a lot.

I finally beat doubles earlier today, i wanna cry and suck that anon's dick that recommended me that koku xurkitree combo.

In the 20s of multi right now, got "lucky" and scouted a partner who has rotom wash with hydro, thunder, Shadow ball and wow, which doesnt do much but when it actually hits its beautiful. And a dd physical Latios kek

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>Use Lele
>Get fucked because my other Pokemon can't use priority

Every time. Fuck this dumb cunt and her shitty ability. Into the trash you go, bitch.

>>31156573
>Soundhax
>string processing error due to null terminated strings
WHEN WILL IT END

>bank soon
>will finally be able to use Volcarona and dance birb in doubles

What's a good setup for Aegislash? I was thinking Leftovers, Adamant, 252 Atk 252 Def 4 SpDef, Swords Dance/King's Shield/Shadow Sneak/Iron Head, but if I'm being dumb feel free to correct me.

>>31162788

Quiet.
252 sp.atk/252 hp/6 attack
Weakness Policy
-Flash Cannon
-Shadow Ball
-King's Shield
-Shadow Sneak.

You want speed as low as possible so roll for as close to 0 speed as you can get.

>>31162206
>BRINGING Pokemon with priority when you have Lele

You did this to yourself, idiot.

>>31162917
Why low Speed? It's not like it's using Gyro Ball.

>>31162936
I would guess so you go last and take the hit while in shield form then attack.

>>31162936

So you move after the opponent so that they activate your weakness policy while Aegislash is still in its defensive state.

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>>31160916
While I think that toxic really wasn't needed and you could've switched out 1 last time on chomp, brigth powder still robbed you a win. I'm sorry that BS happened to you.

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>>31162052
I'm glad that combo worked for you anon. Do you have any replays of the team kicking ass?

>>31162788
It depends on your team, but I used >>31162917 in singles and it worked really well.

Does Thunder ignore the accuracy check in rain or does it just get raised to 100 to accuracy.

>>31163069
Ignores.

>>31163069
ignores the accuracy check

>>31163089
>>31163097

No wonder Koko/Pelliper combo is working so well in doubles for me. A shame the A.I keeps spamming Ground Types, Lightning rod, and storm drain users to fuck with me.

5ZPG-WWWW-WWW3-UJMC

500 ish BP's later I finally managed to get to red, and he was underwhelming. But I honestly think it's mainly because based Stone Edge didn't miss and fuck me over.

All in all, it's harder to get to him than beating him but maybe people are having the opposite experience. 40+ is a fucking bitch. If anyone is curious about the Evs nature and items let me know. Of all the teams this is the one I had the best time both getting to him and actually beating him on my first try. Good luck anons.

>>31162933
Don't bully.

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>TFW Finally scout Colress with his MegaGross.

It's in slot 2 following a Magnezone but still.

I give up on multis. It just isn't fun...Atlease I have 2700 BP now I guess.

>Get fucked over at round 45 of super doubles by a Rotom using Blizzard in a trick room.

I really fucking hate trick room.

>>31163715

I'm dumb and forgot the enemies Pokemon on the right is in their slot one.

What's a good partner team for a Colress partnership with his Megagross in slot 1 and his AV Magnezone in Slot 2?

What are good partners in Multi for Cynthia with Scarfchomp + Mega Lucario?

>spend all this time making a dope team
>breedan levelan EV trainan
>zhypnosis + dream eater gardevoir rapes me
back to the drawing board

>>31164162

Who's the lead?

>>31164231
Her Scarfchomp is lead

>>31164028
Trick room teams are my fucking bane if they get it up. Doesn't help that my multi partners are so fucking stupid too

>>31164028

By the way, anyone have any suggestions for the doubles team I used?

Tapu Koko@Life Orb
Naive
Max sp.atk and speed.
-Thunder
-Dazzling Gleam
-Brave Bird
-Volt Switch (enemies like to lower his stats and its useful for escaping it)

Pelliper@Damp Rock.
Drizzle
248 HP196 Def64 SpD
Bold
-Scald
-Hurricane
-U-turn
-Wide guard.

Ash-Greninja@Waterium Z
Naive (Timid is better for this set but I went with Naive for non doubles play)
Max sp.atk/speed
-Water Shurriken
-Hydro Pump
-Dark Pulse
-Extra Sensory

Salamence@Salamencite
Adamant
Intimidate
Max attack and speed.
-Dragon Claw
-Double Edge.
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake.

Koko and Pelliper clear most matches by themselves and Waterium Z Hydro Pump in the rain picks off basically everything to activate battle bond.

>>31164244

Something immune to EQ at least as your lead, not Mega Mence though because that's begging the game to quick claw Blizzard you to death.

>>31164310
Hmm....drop bravest bird and give koko grass knot and MAYBE switch volt switch for U-turn since nothing is immune to the latter

Double edge...I would say return but that's my thing since I hate any kind of recoil.

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>>31163527
Dont bully Lele!

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>It's a 39-streak getting ruined by Sand Veil ScarfChomp episode
>Still pull through with Megagross surviving Earthquake, Mashing and BPing the shark
>Sand Stream Gigalith is the 3rd mon
>tfw it's actually a Meteor Mash misses episode

>>31164187
Tapu koko fixes that

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>>31164441
But she is a dumb slut and she sucks! SUCKS!

Deleting Lele-chan from your team! Taking her Choice Specs and giving them to Xurkitree! Keeping Lele-chan in your PC forever!

>>31164469
>go up against cynthia
>her mega lucario flinch haxes me right the fuck out of the tree
so tired of this shit. both on 40 too

i'm at 38 in multis, feels nervous man

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>>31164715
It would be a shame if...
anything Quick were to freeze both of your team members...

finally got my super doubles stamp, really outhaxed the tree in that last match against blue.
Bulu vs Pidgeot, it hurricanes, I survive and seed. Protect to heal up, it misses the hurricane as I nature madness his ass, protect again, hurricane hits, nature madness again, protect, it uses roost, alternate protect and nature madness as it misses some more and finally deal the last horn leech for the win. Shit was tense. Decided to take a break and use some hackmons from now on to get the berries. Scarf MegaZard with Eruption paired with Charjabug really confuses the AI

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>Lose battle 41 from a single missed Energy Ball on a (presumeably) Sand Veil Palossand

Fuck you Xurkitree.

>>31164834
I almost lost to that shit already, stop that

>>31164715

The trick rooms are coming anon...

>>31164715
I lost at 46
Fucking tailwind whimsicott, i knew it was going to setup but idk why i didnt go for it and then i didnt protect on its z move. Disappointed in myself but im too tired start again lol

>>31160119
source?

WHY DOES EVERYTHING DO LESS DAMAGE IN DOUBLES? WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT.

>>31165947
>click Earthquake to kill everything
It's only a 25% hit, and the format needed it

>>31165947

Moves that hit more then one enemy do half damage in doubles, it's been a thing since they were introduced.

>>31160533
Timid on Koko and Lele for speed, Bold/Calm on Fini for bulk, Bulu can run Adamant for maximum power since you're not outspeeding most things with 75 base speed, Impish/Careful for defensive sets or Jolly if you want to outspeed more things on a Scarf set.

Anybody have a good doubles team with Marowak?

>>31164965
You can't protect against z moves

>>31162052
Said combo is the Timid Koko Modest Tree with discharge and protect shenanigans, right?

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>>31154314
>doing great with kartana life orb lead
>about 30 or 40 here comes Cynthia again
>"I got this"
>rape her flinch bird with smart strike
>rape milotic with leaf blade
>here comes lucario
>"pffftt what can that furry do?"
>it mega evolves
>its faster than kartana
>lucario used Blaze Kick
>OHKO
>proceeds to sweep me
It doesn't want me to win

>flinch haxed for a third time. 35, 39, 40
FUCKING NIGGERS

I'm completely new to this. How do I begin to understand doubles?

>>31159312
I'm surprised the AI hasn't started chucking Blisseys at you

EV spread for Adamant Alolawak?
I have one each with HA and Lightning Rod.

so boys i'm theorycrafting some dope shit

milotic @ leftovers
adamant/impish
252hp/252attack/4spe (maybe)
coil
dragon tail
aqua tail
iron tail/aqua ring

with aurora veil or stealth rock support i could see this being untouchable, or maybe a resttalk with coil and dragon tail version with some strong steel/poison teammates to deal with fairies

it's either retarded or smogon approved A+
thoughts?

I like kartana, what are some mons that work well with superior japanese paper?

>>31166199

No but you take way less damage.

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>>31154314
>video can't be made publlic

Anyway...
>my team: Lele, dragonite, phero
>38th battle, pretty clutch so far
>challenged by aether employee Harvey
>has lickilicky, flareon, rotom-w
>try to blow past licky with Lel psychics
>quick claw activates body slams, paralyze
>para kicks in, body slam for the 2hko
>tfw Focus Blast would've OHKO'd anyway
>try to finish him off with Phero lunge, don't want to risk a kick miss
>he barely survives and brings me down to 1hp with zen
>kill that tongue slut
>Flareon is sent out
>decide to HJK
>missed
>kept going and killed herself
>send out dragonite
> he can't touch me so I DD once while he quick attacks me
>I kill eeveebortion with EQ
>Rotom-W is sent out
>he survives the fire punch
>stupid fridge kills my dragon with Blizzard

Honestly I should've Dragon danced twice

>>31166441
>>31166050

>>31160916
That was downright painful to watch at the end. I'm really sorry anon.

>>31166734
This is battletree. Nothing is safe.
I'm half expecting a T-wave, C-ray, Attract, Sheercold Shedinja.
>0% chance of beating all three hax
>Sheercold is 100% accurate
>All moves are priority thanks to 100% quick claw activation.
Have fun!

>>31167292
Yeah I got raped by double team rotom and minimize muk

There is no hope for skilled trainers, only luck

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I know anons had luck with night dog but would it be possible to reach 50s in doubles with day dog?

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>not too great at competitive battles in the first place
>make it to round 15 in Singles
>get fucked by a Hawlucha with Protect, Toxic, and Bounce
>get mad, still try again anyway
that point I was using Xurkitree, Hydreigon, and Fighting Silvally
maybe someday I'll make it

>>31167979
Megamence is your friend

>>31166261
>he didn't run a fire/fighting-resistant backup
get yourself a pyukumuku, unless they have taunt or encore, you can just soak and toxic them

or run a scarfchomp and grind them into the dirt with eq

>>31168051
Not him but I was thinking about using a puke cuke. Is Bold with 252 HP/252 Def okay?

>>31168051
I didn't even know lucario had blaze kick

Is primarina any good? I'd like that typing to protect megamence from dragon/ice and my aegislash from fire/dark. Should I go modest specs? Defense invested assault vest?

>>31168200
kartana is 4x weak to fire, it's going to come up eventually

>>31168130
besides the aforementioned stallbreakers and anything electric or grass, which you can cover for elsewhere, pyuku is a pretty solid wall. the soak + toxic combo can take anything out with enough time, and an unaware pyuku laughs in the face of setup sweepers

that nature + ev setup is solid, and i run soak, toxic, bide/counter, and recover

bide/counter are shit, but if you're taunted, at least you can actually do something instead of struggle yourself to death

>>31168326
Wouldn't Azumarill be better, then?

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>tfw you've spent so long in the Battle Tree, you can guess the NPCs teams just based off their intro quotes

>>31168364
Well I don't want 3 physical attackers because of reflect/burn/curse/intimidate shenanigans

>>31168326
Primarina is amazing in the tree...for me anyway. Throw on an assault vest and she tanks special attacks with ease and physical attack too while still hitting hard.

Mah set

Primarina (F) @ Assualt Vest
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 138 SpA
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Psychic
- Scald
- Energy Ball

Just hatched a Lonely 31/31/31/31/30/31 Minior.
Keep trying, or gud enuff?
Or keep trying until shiny?

>>31168387
it would be pretty alright, especially since she can learn energy ball to death with bulky water types

>>31168366
Fuck that. After I hit 40 I check every damn team on serebii just to be safe from potential bulshit.

...Tho yeah every scientist is a damn trick room expert.

>>31168398
that's fine

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>TFW Mimikyu solo'd my last 10 battles

I can't imagine playing the Tree without this negro. If her teammates did as well, I'd already have my fucking stamp.

>>31168392
damn, that moveset makes me want to breed a primarina

>>31168392
How did you split her evs so easily Without super training?

Fucking Solarbeam Arcanine,using my own weather and terrain against me.

QGRW-WWWW-WWW3-UVPH

>>31168518
Pelago, you fool.

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>>31168518
Poke Pelago
One play session is 4 EV points to the stat of your choosing.

Hell, even without it, it's not that hard as long as you have a pen and paper when fighting wild pokemon. I've been doing that since Gen 3.

Max speed on Tapu Koko, or can some points be better spent elsewhere?

>>31168576
does pokerus affect pelago training?

>>31168518
100 EV with vitamins and a few wild battles. EV berries in incase I screw up. Easy...oh and pelago

>>31168604
It does not. Beans will speed up the training though. So a 30 minute play session becomes 15 minutes.

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>playing Super Multi with a bro IRL because AI is fucking retarded
>plowing through everyone
>connection error at the 20th battle
>took forever to even get their because battle animations are defaulted to remain on

I officially give up on this fucking mode.

>>31168547
>Losing to Blue

Ouch

Why are you a brown girl though?

I won 50 Super Singles with these pokes.

Porygon-Z @NormaliumZ
Timid - 4HP / 252Sp.Atk / 252Speed
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Shadow Ball
-Conversion

Minior @White Herb
Adamant - 4HP / 252Atk / 252Speed
-Rock Slide
-Acrobatics
-Earthquake
-Shell Smash

Metagross @Metagrossite
Jolly - 4HP / 252Atk / 252Speed
-Bullet Punch
-Meteor Mash
-Zen Headbut
-Earthquake

Mimikyu @Focus Sash
Jolly - 4HP / 252Atk / 252Speed
-Shadow Claw
-Play Rough
-Leech Life
-Swords Dance

I always lead with Porygon-Z and he can essentially always take care of most things by himself, he was definitely the MvP of the Tree. But if something I thought would use EQ came up, I switched into Minior. Also Minior HARD counters this Blissey you might see where it abuses Minimize, Softboiled, Toxic, and MudBomb. It can't do a single thing to Minior. Metagross and Mimikyu were often switched back and forth as I personally feel if you don't mix it up once in a while you get hard countered by the Tree eventually.

>>31164672
Sash Lele, my man.

>>31168684
I have a mild case of jungle fever.

>>31168693
>Singles
>4 Pokemon

>>31168748

Stop being lazy and read his post.

>>31168759
I did, it's still retarded to even mention 4 if he had to substitute someone. No reason to bring up anything that wasn't used to get to the 50 point.

>>31168798
It gives people options and they get to see everything I used. It's overall just helpful. You're just trying to piss and moan over something silly.

I'm thinking about bringing in someone that can set up a stealth rock to deal with focus sash/sturdyfags

Too many times I'd get fucking robbed by one of those fuckers.

Opinions?

>>31154314
The 50 win multi-battle stamp is still given to you even if you do it with a friend instead of the retarded AI, right?

>>31168825
I'll piss and moan on your mom, gayboy

>>31168866
It's not generally practical to waste a move just to set up in the tree...but hey try it and see if it works.

The other option is wide spread attacks like dazzling gleam, earthquake, dazzling gleam, etc.

>>31168878
You might want to rethink that, friend-o: >>31168657

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So beat super singles tree

Scarf Garchomp
Jolly Rough skin
252/252 attack and speed
Dragon claw,earthquake,stone edge and fire blast

Zap plate Tapu koko
Timid
252 252 speed and Spa
Thunder bolt volt switch grass knot and dazzling gleam

Life orb Kartana
Jolly
252/ attack and speed
Leaf blade,Smart strike,sacred sword and psycho cut

It was fairly smooth sailing
>Battle 49
>Scarf guillotine pinsir
>Missed
Wew

>>31168912
It would literally just be that one move I'd be wasting a slot for. Having my shit blown up by some faggot gengar is putting me in a shitty mood.

>>31168586
Halp.

>>31168938
>Scarfed Guillotine Pinsir
I encountered that as well once I was in the 45-49 range myself. Luckily it missed for me too.

>>31168987
>asking wether or not having 130 speed should be better spent in some other stat in the tree

Anon stop being silly.

>>31168866
Cloyster is good at bypassing sashes. If Sturdy is really messing with you then bring a pokemon with Mold Breaker onto your team (Mega Gyarados, Ramparados, Haxorus).

>>31168948
Ohh gengar...I understand your pain then.
Thankyou koko for being immune to hypnosis spam.

>>31169054
Is Closyter even available at the moment? MAYBE I'll look into Mega Gyarados though.

>>31169078
Yeah, I've been leading with Minior and he does great against stupid idiots who try to use status effects. Occasionally I'll get BTFO by something like a Jolteon if they're both the first sent out because I'm too stubborn/retarded to switch out.

>>31169137
Shellder line is part of the alola dex, yes

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When do you decide to reformulate your team?

I've been keeping Mimikyu (Too good to leave) and changing my other 2 mons constantly, but now I'm wondering if I should just stick with something and just accept that shit happens sometimes, instead of just assuming my team isn't working.

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>Everyone uses Tapu's or UB's

Christ, that's so fucking boring. Can you really not win with anything else? I'm really stubborn on using any legends at all. My limit is Megas.

>>31169232
Hold on, lemme just grab one of my 'mons stuck on Gen 6, stupid nigger.

>>31169232
Try it yourself and post the results

>>31169229
i've made like 3 or 4 teams, usually making it to about 30 before going back to the drawing board

i actually do it because i appreciate the motivation to do more breeding projects, and i'll have a bigger stable for online battles

>>31169232
The Tree doesn't play fair; why should we? if you don't have at least one Mega/Tapu/UB/pseudo then you will have a much harder time and probably not win.

>>31169232
Alright you have fun battling all those pseudo using trainers that start appearing on floors 40+. As soon as you hit 40 you'll start seeing M.Latios', Raikous, Enteis, Suicunes, the deer things from B/W and all those other legendary but not actually legendary shit.

>>31169232
What? I've used primarina, lycanroc, salazzle, and mimikyu too. Besides the tree use legends and shit...and those fucking rotom.

>>31169232

UBs are fine imo. They get OHKOed (except Celesteela) by anything on the wrong side of the spectrum if you're an idiot or if you don't have the experience with the movesets some tree mons have (or if they have Sashes)

I think people here who use Megamence and Tapus are more idiotic. And no, "the tree cheats" isn't a good enough reason because if your team gets exploited by hax then that just means you suck at building it.

Alright anons. We all know the rotom forms are annyone little bastards but which one do you despise the post?


Tie between frost and heat rotom.

>>31169501
Frost because I lead with a special attacker and that thing is so bulky it's unreal.

>>31169478
>if your team gets exploited by hax then that just means you suck at building it.
Tell that to Brightpowder you fucking scrub.

>>31169478
>It's your fault that the opponent's Quick Claw kept activating multiple times in succession
>It's your fault you missed your 100% accuracy move because of Bright Powder TWICE

No, you're the faggot.

>>31154314
Is there any reason red card wouldn't work?

>>31169501
Can someone explain the Rotom hate? I've never really had a problem with them in the tree

>>31169478
>implying I'll ever stop using my tag team megamence and koko

Anon please they mesh so damn well together. Intimidate helps koko physical squishiness and koko is immune to Twave spam and fucks over water types with blizzard and dark/fighting/dragon types with dazzling gleam.

>>31169478
The tree doesn't flat out "cheat" but they certainly don't play by rules we as players have came up with. You're telling me that when you lose because of a quick claw activation you don't get mad? Or how about you lost because they abused bright powder holding double team spammers?

>>31169552
Levitate prevents earthquake kills
bulky as heck
Twave spam or double team spam
One of the little assholes(wash) wears a scarf with discharge

They're just plain annoying

>>31159071
>Megs Blaziken
Anon, the stone isnt obtainable in game.

Mixed Minor EV spread?

>>31169627
the tree doesnt care, they'll field that for you

>>31169627
oh right, i mean, transfer from pokebank

>>31169232
>l-legendaries are bad ;_;
>i'm ok with using megas and pseudos with even higher bst though!

fuck off faggot

>>31159469
sub legends are allowed. who sent out lati?

>>31169630
Reposting an anon's Minior that was working pretty well for me

Adamant Minior w/ White Herb
252 ATK / 84 SPEED / the rest in HP
Power Gem
Earthquake
Acrobatics
Shell Smash

Supposedly it'll have just enough speed to out run everything when it's shell is gone, and the power gem will still do significant damage even with the negative nature and no EVs invested. Also 100% accuracy.

Take that as you will.

>>31169658
the tree doesnt provide free stones. if it did my injected blaziken would be mega.

>>31169888
sorry, i thought you meant that the cpu shouldn't have the stone

he's talking about transferring it over

>>31169888
Why not just inject a Blaziken that's constantly in its Mega state?

>>31169775
Mine's Lonely, but I was looking at the same moveset. Think that'll be okay?

>>31170076
I think that should be fine. You'll even have a bit more SPATK to work with.

Minior in general is a bit of a gamble because with the right attacks against it, you'll either get blown up or never be able to get it out of its shell, so try to play as smart as possible.

>>31169927
Now where'd be the fun in that? That's like saying inject megamence and giving it a life orb...actually that sounds fun

>>31170231
Just cut all the bullshit and inject a Choice Scarf Mega Pidgeot with Sheer Cold, Fissure, and Guillotine. Make the Battle Tree your bitch.

I'd honestly do it myself if I wasn't so retarded when it comes to things like homebrew

Trying to get scouts for multi, so I started running this team:

Ribombee @ Focus Sash
Timid 252SpA/252Spe
- Moonblast
- Psychic
- Quiver Dance
- Baton Pass

Hydreigon @ Dragonium-Z
Modest 252SpA/252Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Flash Cannon

Tapu Lele @ Life Orb
Timid 252SpA/252Spe
- Moonblast
- Psychic
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast

This team is surprisingly good, ribombee can actually pull off sweeps if it encounters gimmicky shit, and the only status you worry about is para, as sweet veil prevents sleep hax, I thought this team would be suceptible to RNG like fire attacks burning ribombee's sash, or poison attacks poisoning me through it, and while it did happen (twice) I got to 49 until I lost to a misplay thinking Feraligatr didn't have aqua jet and losing lele to life orb recoil, only to have pelipper smash my dreams freezing hydreigon with a blizzard, I think this team can go on longer streaks, hydregon and lele after getting a quiver dance are very good, but I think heatran would be amazing once we get pokebank

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>>31165665
>source?
Aika-r16

>>31169283
>>31169350
>>31169393
>>31169685
I'm not against anyone using legends for themselves, just my own personal autism.

I'm just wondering is it POSSIBLE to not use them. I got to the 50's without them just fine.

>>31170419
that just means luck was on your side. a legend (or any pokemon with a high BST) is to help deal with bullshit moments

>>31170305
You are just ASKING to be walled by a Blissey or anything with high SPDEF.

I personally use Psyshock on my Tapu Lele. I'd recommend it.

>>31170445
>luck
I disagree

Even if I used high BST pokemon it'll find a way to counter it anyway. No matter what we use. So I might as well use my bros.

>>31170513
>missing the point

>>31170547
what am I missing

>>31170558
the point

>>31170513
It's not that hard to compromise and use a mix of strong pokemon and your bros/sis

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>>31170580
h-holy shit.. I got BTFO

Hmm...do I train up this 6IV Porygon I bred because 'Fuck yeah, 6IVs' or train the one missing Atk because 'Fuck you, confusion'?

>>31170620
Is this a serious question or are you just retarded?

>>31170503
Quiver danced to +3 (could have done more, but didn't want to jinx it), baton passed to lele, got 2 shotted by psychic, I might replace focus blast with it, but I only encountered 1 blissey in the way to 49, steel types were more worrying, and way more common, as were trick room assholes like aromatise

>>31170651
whatever works, my nigga

>>31170620
if you're not using the a physical ability then why bother? It's disadvantageous for you.

>>31170649
Yes.
>>31170685
I just really like the idea of having a 'perfect' Pokemon, especially one that's manufactured in the lore.

>>31170768
>autism

>>31167501
What makes moon dog usable in battle tree doubles? I haven't started putting together a doubles team yet, I like Lycanroc and would like to see him prove some use even if he isn't optimal.

>>31170768
Train the one missing attack? Obviously. It's fine to enjoy breeding something perfect, it's a nice trophy, but don't let it cripple you in battle.

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For Singles, consider Cloyster.

Cloyster @Focus Sash
Skill Link
Naughty - 252 Att / 252 Speed / 4 SpAtt
-Shell Smash
-Icicle Spear
-Rock Blast
-Surf

Naughty is generally the better nature for extra power, but Naive allows you to beat out Scarf 110s (and is the better PvP nature). You go mixed to take advantage of physically defensive Steels that resist your Ice/Rock coverage, and because Surf (90 base/100 acc) does similar damage and is more reliable in the Tree than Razor Shell (75 base/95 acc) post Shell Smash due to Cloyster's fairly mixed base offense stats.

Cloyster is the best Shell Smasher in the game for singles Tree. Minior's niche is the status immunity of Shield's Down/form change, but Cloyster's stronger offense and Focus Sash allows it to shine as the better booster. Its low SpDef allows it to 'cheat' AI, which prioritizes getting KOs when possible, allowing Cloyster to regularly proc the Focus Sash without having to worry about more dangerous moves like Thunder Wave/Confuse Ray/Will-o-wisp/etc (exceptions apply, like TR mons whose AI prioritizes setting up TR above all).

Cloyster's average stats are carried by its high base powered Skill Linked moves, which break Subs/Sturdy/Sashes and has a higher 'chance' of critting. Icicle Spear is a 188! base powered move after STAB; Rock Blast is a 125 base powered coverage move; Surf is 135 base post STAB and hits on the Special side to get 2HKOs on bulky Steels that can't be powered through with Ice/Rock (ex. Steelix, Skarmory, Aggron, etc).

Ice/Rock/Water offers great coverage, leaving you only walled by the likes of Empoleon, though certain Steels/bulky Waters can remain an issue.

With just Cloyster and Garchomp and a suboptimal third, I was able to get to ~45 in Super Singles, and know that I can comfortably reach beyond 50+ when I swap Mimikyu for the planned Megagross.

Play tips on following post.

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RTUW-WWWW-WW3-V7QV
Why did everyone tell me Red was easy and not that his Snorlax had fucking fissure? Guess it's time to go back to the drawing board where i bring in three pseudo's/ultra beasts.

>>31171817
>Notes on using Cloyster
-when Ice is resisted and Water/Rock is neutral, Rock Blast is a stronger move than Surf due to more base Attack and high base power.
-when Ice is neutral and Rock is 2x SE, Icicle Spear may still be enough to KO (ex. Abomasnow, Charizard, ; if so, then use IS for its 100 accuracy vs RB's 90 acc.
-be aware of potential Thick Fat mons (Mamoswine, Snorlax, Hariyama, Grumpig, Miltank) that will prevent otherwise expected OHKOs.
-If you know that the opposing mon both has a priority move and a KO move, switch and try to set up later given the rarity of hazards to break the Sash on switch-in. This may include certain surprise sets as well (one of the Tree's Primarina runs special moves + Aqua Jet).
-there are situations where Cloyster can OHKO without boosting; carefully consider whether boosting or KOing first is the better option (if the opposing mon can use status moves or has moves that have status secondary effects (eg. Discharge), it's better to KO and run the boost/ko game with the second mon).
-even with Focus Sash, be wary of mons that regularly carry moves like Thunder/Discharge on the off chance the secondary Paralysis effect procs.
-if the enemy wastes a turn on the turn you setup and/or you know the mon is not a threat, you are encouraged to use Shell Smash more than once; this includes against mons with known 'free' turns like Slaking/Protect users.

-Cloyster has issues with: Ferrothorn/Empoleon/certain Steels, bulky waters that resist/won't be OHKOed by Rock Blast, Trick Room, status

-Cloyster pairs exceptionally well with Garchomp, who is Electric immune and Rock resistant; AI is also less likely to choose Ice coverage options against Cloyster on the switch if it's an option since it's Cloyster's one major resist source.
-bulky pivots that can cover a resist for Cloyster are ideal thirds for the Cloyster + Garchomp pair (esp. if Garchomp runs Scarf); synergetic typing Volturn-ers or bulky Steels are great options.

>>31171966
>fissure

lmao this game

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5Q2G-WWWW-WWW3-V96N

>pic related

>>31167061
No, I know about that. I mean the format. I mean what archetypes are a thing.

>>31171549
No Guard means 100% accurate Rock Slides that hits both opponents. It's also immune to the tree's brightpower/doubleteam/minimise bullshit.

>pro-tip
Hold King's Rock for double the flinchy fun.
>pro-tip 2
Stone Edge is now also 100% accurate.

>>31172265
>leftovers moxie salami
>running stone edge in the tree

Anon what are you thinking?

>>31169232
Try Primarina, Ash-Greninja, Salamence or Garchomp then

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>>31171966
>tfw one shot all of reds pokemon

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>just my Celesteela vs Aerodactyl
>could one hit KO with Heavy Slam
>do nothing for four turns due to confusion and flinch
>mfw

>tfw get so brutally raped by Rotom Fridge on Battle 47 that I can't make the video public

Jesus,should I ditch Leftovers for Lum Berry on Oranguru?Old girl can survive a shitload.

Doing quite well with this team, but bulky fire and steel types are usually problematic

Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Flash Cannon
- Substitute
- King's Shield

Mimikyu @ Red Card
Ability: Disguise
Level: 50
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Play Rough
- Swords Dance
- Will-O-Wisp

Porygon-Z @ Normalium Z
Ability: Adaptability
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Conversion

>>31170513
Post your team

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What set are people using for Oranguru in doubles?

>>31173578

Instruct
Substitute
Reflect
Foul Play

>>31173578
Lum + Inner Focus and Instructs single-target is the more prudent option
Mental Herb + Telepathy for AOE spam is not as good in the tree

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>Enemy Magmortar's Quick Claw activated 4 times in a row
>Against my Toxapex

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>Finally get 50 wins in super singles
>Haven't fucking encountered Anabel once

When will the ride end?

a7cg-wwww-www3-vkkd
163 record destroyed by a crit brave bird :(
No idea how people try again after losing so high up

>>31174450
I had 2 streaks that ended in the 80s and neither of them had Anabel.

Then I got her as the 10th fight suddenly.

LADS
GIGALITH @ BALLON OR SOME SHIT
252 HP / 100 DEF / 156 SPdef
Sand Stream + Adamant
- EQ
- Stone Edge
- Explosion
- Stealth Rock

+ 2 OTHER MONS OF YOUR LIKING TO CLEANUP THE MESS THIS DOES

THIS IS THE SHIZZLE DRIZZLE
60 STREAK WITHOUT EVEN TRYING

Only counter to this so far has been the PSYCHIC + WATER alola jawfish and who spams scald and gets burn 8 out of 5 times but I could get some water absorb mon just to counter it. Lanturn per say.
May also struggle with double team spammers but w/e it's just a game XD

>>31174519
What was your team? I got Mallow 3 times in this run with Chomp/Fini/Lucario

Tfw get over 50 in super singles and doubles but can't even beat the normal multi battles.

What partners are you guys using in multi?

>>31154386
You should have brought in Fini before bringing in Lucario, then just spam Bullet Punch instead of trying to setup. Articuno, Walrein, Pinsir, and Diglett all have OHKO moves, don't mess around with them

>>31174606
Lele Smogonsword Megamence

>>31158549
I've done surprisingly well with a Careful Buzzwole after jacking up its Sp. Defense- it's even survived a few special attacks that would normally be SE against it with the help of Roost and Leftovers. Its defense IV is a bit shaky so I use lunge on it to compensate, but after Hyper Training it I plan to give it Leech Life instead.

>>31163715
What was your team? I can never get him to use MegaGross in his lead two.

>>31160916
His fucking Brightpowder Lapras can die in a fire

Anybody have any good doubles teams?

>>31174685
Megamence, Jolly, 252 ATK and SPE, DD, Dragon Claw, Return/Double Edge, Earthquake, Protect
Lele @ Life Orb, Timid, 252 SPATK and SPE, Psychic, Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam, Protect
Pheromosa @Fightium Z, Naive, 252 ATK, and SPE, Hi jump kick, Lunge, Poison jab, Ice beam
Celesteela @Assault Vest, Modest (Mine is Quiet, but whatever) Air slash, flash cannon, flamethrower, giga drain

It's not the best team, in fact, it's quite shitty, but it can get you to 50 wins, proof:

JG4G-WWWW-WWW3-87UK

>>31164715
Who was your partner and what was your team?

>>31174795
Forgot to mention Celesteela is 252 HP and SP ATK

waiting to transfer over my mega charizard Y using oblivion wing with seed flare venasaur

Lycanrock-Midnight with No Guard spamming Rock Slide
Mega-Mence spamming Double Edge
Tapu Koko spamming Discharge
Garchomp spamming Earthquake

All with single burst options.

Basically your standard "throw OP smogonmons at the AI" strat with vague synergy so they can use multi-hit attacks without killing eachother, the exception being Lycanroc who's just there to scare off the Ice counters - but pulled his weight absurdly well with Flinch-spam and guaranteed Stone Edges.

Movesets and Items were pretty sub-optimal, but it still pulled through to 50s. Doubles is much less punishing than the other modes so you can afford to not cheese everything, but if it frustrates you then you have the option of just full on abusing it.

2L3W-WWWW-WWW3-V49A

>>31169478
This fucking idiot shows up every thread

>>31174685
I used Tapu Koko, Xurkitree, Megamence, Krookodile and beat super doubles pretty easily.

Here's a replay of the team destroying Blue.
E9KW-WWWW-WWW3-BFMV

>>31174620
I scouted Cynthia with Mega Lucario and Togekiss, and got through Singles and the first 40 fights of super multis with her.

I got to 50 with the help of my gf because I didn't trust the AI (and thank goodness I did so, I lost in battle 51 with the AI afterwards).

Here are our teams:
Me:
Salamence @Salamencite
4 HP 252 ATK, 252 SPE
Intimidate, Jolly
Dragon Dance
Double Ow the Edge
Dragon claw
Earthquake

Arcanine @Assault Vest
4HP 252 ATK 252 SPE
Intimidate, Jolly
Flare Blitz
Close Combat
Crunch
Wild Charge

Her:
Lucario @Lucarionite
Inner Focus, Jolly
4 HP 252 ATK 252 SPE
Close Combat
Bullet Punch
Crunch
Protect

Tapu Lele @Life Orb
Psychic Surge, Timid
Moonblast
Dazzling Gleam
Psychic
Protect

Battle nº 50:
FFWH-WWWW-WWW3-VP22

I hope that helps!

>>31174947
Stupid me, I wrote the code like a retard.
FFHW-WWWW-WWW3-VP22

>>31174620
I had Colress with his Porygon2 and Megagross. Beat both regular and super multis with him on my first try.

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>tfw the worst thing about trying to get 50 in Multis is not the partner but the frame drop/lag

I love it when they use their Z-Moves for shit like Aqua Ring

>fucking firework captcha

>>31174519
Same here, I got her once during my 163 record, she was 10, and never appeared again

>>31174671

It was in doubles.

See

>>31164310

>>31168657

If they're having local connection issues for it, I can see why they they gut wi-fi co-op.

>>31166508
Yeah, I've been getting a lot of SpDef walls but no Blisseys yet. I just keep using Nature's Madness and then chipping away.

I swapped out Hydreigon for a bulky Buzzwole for some battles. That thing can take some frigging hits.

So...now trainers have legendary only teams. Will we be able to use legends once bank is out?

>>31174803
Kiawe, with M-Kangaskhan and Salazzle
My team being Tapu Koko and Kartana

yet to finish the run, just woke up

>>31175680
Yes, just like how it's always been since fucking Gen 3

>>31161557
I've noticed it too. Don't quote me on this, but I think the AI gets confused when you send in Pokemon with uncommon or "difficult" type combinations.

Lucario has a lot of weaknesses and (as expected) is a fairly common Pokemon on teams, especially in-game scrubs. I wouldn't be surprised if considering the amount of counters he has and how frequent he pops up, the AI was programmed to specifically come up with counters for that Pokemon.

It also helps that Mimikyu has a nice defensive ability and Ghost/Fairy is fairly good at countering things.

I've noticed that Tapu Lele also gets countered very infrequently either due to her power or just typing + terrain. I really think there are just some Pokemon that the AI can't figure out.

I read that Megamence also gets rarely countered because of just how much coverage it can get and how difficult it still is to hit a Dragon/Flying type effectively.

>>31161637
Both would enjoy +Speed natures.

Koko needs the Speed and gets pretty strong with Timid @ Life Orb.

Lele can go either way (Modest or Timid), since Speed isn't as important for her and she can take at least one or two hits before going down. I run mine with Hasty only because I screwed up Natures, but it's still +Speed and she still takes a hit before going down.

My Koko is Bold, btw. It works weirdly because he doesn't hit as hard as he should, but takes some hits he shouldn't. I don't like it as much as I wanted, but it comes in handy once in a blue moon. Basically a waste of Koko if you ask me.

>>31161965
>>31161778
What this anon said.

Megamence is very popular.

So are Tapu Lele, Mimikyu, and Koko.

Then in the last place I hear a lot of Toxapex or Aegislash.

Basically Dragon/Fairy/Poison core or Dragon/Steel/Fairy core, with Ghost coming in pretty close in usefulness.

You want as much coverage as possible. I would imagine any trio of types that resists each others weaknesses would work well desu. And then using Pokemon of those types that learn a lot of different attacks. I'm kind of curious to see a Flying/Rock/Fighting trio, or anything else like that. Maybe Landorus/Megadactyl/Buzzwole?

>>31161557
The game gets really confused if you have Sableye that goes Mega as your first or a Conversion Porygon.

>>31176479
what moves do you run on mega-sableye? i've run knock off, foul play, will o wisp and recover, but i'm thinking of swapping foul play with something else

>>31168392
>(F)
So a female one?

>>31176586
I used Knock off, Foul play, Toxic and Recover, so almost the same set.

>>31176744
i might swap foul play for toxic, then. depending on what the enemy leads with, i'll a) blunt their attack, b) put them on a timer, or c) reflect their status move back at them

>>31168392
Would this actually work? Interested in trying it out

give me a good doubles team, i have a bunch of stuff like megamence, tapus, mimikyu and ubs all trained and shit.

>>31176829
i'm currently training one, and am going to test it. looking at her stats (solid special wall + great spa) and the ridiculous amount of coverage moves she can learn, it looks amazing on paper. plus, she'll fill the niche i've been looking for (fire/fighting/bulky water counter)

>>31176858
aight, report in later if you would

can you baton pass spirit shackle effect?

>>31169232
think of it like this.

what is the point of legendaries existing if not to use it against OP AI stuff?

>>31168439
lol tcejni tsuj

>>31177736
too late, already bred and almost trained

Give me any improvements to make to this doubles team. Obviously this is a cheese team and I plan to abuse the shit outta the ai. I broke 100 streak with a similar team for singles before getting killed by wallace but I'm worried the damage might be too high if they focus me in doubles for the strategy to work.

Blissey with leftovers
Growl
Seismic Toss
Soft Boiled
Protect

Toxapex with black sludge and regenerator
Confide
Recover
Toxic
Protect

Mega salamence
Dragon Dance
Roost
Substitute
Return

Persian with Darkinium Z
Parting shot
Rest
Taunt
Foul play

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>>31169627
It's fine, Life Orb hits harder anyway.

>>31171549
No guard. Non missing rock slides/stone edges are better than you'd expect especially vs ice,fire, and flyers and flinch hax. No evasion hax either

To anybody having trouble with Multi, Mega Khan is great in it. I have him and Golispod with Wally's Mega Gallade and we're wrecking shop so far. Garchomp is still an annoying ass who EQs everyone though. We'll see if I can make it through the Veteran den of 40

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Anyone have a good set for Alolan Muk for super singles or doubles?

>>31173058
>>31178254
Forgot all about Rock Slide. Figured 100% accurate Stone Edge couldn't be the only reason. Thanks, I think I'll give him a try.

Should he be built pretty standard with big dumps in attack and speed?

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>>31178903
Mine was scarfed. 220(148) speed outspeeds everything that's not megazam in the tree or doesn't have a scaf itself.

>>31178714
Singles you want
A-Muk @ Assault Vest/Figy Berry
Ability: Poison Touch (AV)/Gluttony (berry)
-Knock off
-Poison jab
-Shadow snek
-filler

>>31176874
so far she's pulling her weight fairly well, she's as tanky vs specials as i expected, and her damage means she can 2hko most things, or put a big dent into poison types with her psychic

right now i'm running a mega-sableye lead, with scarfchomp and assvest primarina backup. only at battle 8 or so, so i can't say how well she'll hold up later

>>31177030
You cannot.

>>31179034
nice, might as well try her out

>>31179014
What spread?

>>31179034
Oh don't worry. Outside of bullshit she will carry her weight.

>>31179014
>>31178714
Are there any minimize shenanigans to be had with him?
Or a viable curse set?

So I just cleared Super Singles with my meme team.

Lead: Minior, Adamant, Power Herb
S D
252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 HP
Shell Smash
Acrobatics
HP Grass (literally just for coverage against water) or Stealth Cocks for Salamence Dragon Tail cheese
Earthquake
Strategy: Shell Smash then memes.
Lots of electric and water leads, beware, though HP Grass and EQ help meme on those counters a lot.

Golisopod, Adamant, Leftovers
E E
252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 SpDef
First Impressions
Aqua Jet
Sucker Punch
Liquidation/Swords Dance
Strategy: Obvious spam priority set. worth it to switch into a water type lead that usually goes after Minior. Liquidation and SD are interchangable, I used em both for 25 games and each did their work.

Salamence, Adamant (Could run Jolly but I wouldn't personally), Salamence
Intimidate
252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 HP
Return
Roost
Dragon Claw/Dragon Tail for Minior Rocks
Flamethrower (Didn't have Fire Fang access)
Strategy: Go for the kill and survive in natural bulk. Flamethrower for ice/ferrothorn and other stalls.

Alternative meme setup with rocks: I decided to try this for the first 25 battles and it certainly works. Shell smash, rocks, then do what you can with Minior. Use MegaMence and spam Dragon Tail. Golisopod got very little action wth this strategy, it might work better with something like Lele or Koko.

>>31179072
He doesn't have the recovery to make it consistent, if he had a recovery move it would be possible, but he's better off acting as a defensive swith in to fairies and starting to wreck some face from there, you can do it, but you never know what pokes the other guy has in store, so if Muk gets weathered down, he's most likely to fall to some special attacks

>>31179095
Why liquiodation and not leech life?

>>31179178
Because I made a dumb set and didn't realise it got leech life. He was basically just clean up crew anyway, so I never had much reason for him to regain HP. One battle against a Latias it might've been helpful, but mence is braindead so no worries.

What moves for a choice band araquanid? Liquidation, leech life, I'm thinking maybe sleep talk and either crunch or poison jab?

>>31179394
not sure why sleep talk would be good on a banded mon, but crunch and poison jab on him are legit

>>31179394
with choice you will always spam your stabs, the coverage is nice, but most of the time your water attacks will hit harder, sleep talk is a bit gimmicky but i guess it can work if once in a bluemoon sleep hax shows itself, you better prepare for twave and electric spam tho

>>31179394
araquanid's better as a special wall with mirror coat to counter electric types. outside of ridiculous water stab with liquidation and an alright leech life, its attack stats are on the low end.

Did that decidueye anon ever manage to reach 50 with the bird?

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>mega-sableye lead
>enemy pokemon used confuse ray/hypnosis/thunder wave
>magic bounce

every time

Guys I just breezed through 45 super doubles before losing with a meme hail team, I didn't even have a mega stone yet.

Now I'm trying regular singles and I'm literally just lost for the 3rd time with mega metagross, gyarados, and garchomp, haven't even hit 10 wins.

Why the fuck are singles so much harder?

(Fuck these focus sash acellegor niggers and quick claw vaporeons on every team)

>>31179469
how do you even use him?, I'm genuinely curious, I saw talk in competitive that hes more support, but I don't know if the tree is appropiate for that.

I made incineroar and Primarina work in a trick room team in doubles, but that's because incineroar gets fake out and a strong Z move to spam with flare blitz and primarina gets a surf that can go through subs, but I don't know what the owl can do

>>31179051
>>31179067
oh my god, assvest primarina actually survived a salazzle poison z-move while at 75% health and 1hko it with scald

i love the diva seal

>>31179625
Yep. Primarina is bulky as heck as is on the special side and an assault vest makes it nearly impossible to one shot even outside of a crit.

Just lost my 34 streak in Super Doubles to an all fire team. My only pokemon weak to fire was Scizor.

>M-Alakazam uses Psychic and takes Arcanine down by ~60%
> Archeops uses Z-Head Smash and KOs Rotom-H
>Arcanine used Z-Sunny Day and proceeds to sweep my team with a Life Orb Fake Out Infernape to back it up

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Is Colress with Mega Metagross and Klinklang a good multi partner?

>>31179816
Not sure how good his Klinklang is, but as long as he has Megagross he should be good.

Im the guy with the baton pass ribombee team, I restarted my climb in singles looking for good scouts, got wally at 30, he had scarfchomp on his 3rd slot, what a joke.

>>31179805
Never let arcanine live, should have inverted the targets, rotom H can be a nuisance but he's nowhere as annoying as fake out users, also, try to always run protect on all your pokes in doubles to start stalling shit like fake out

>>31179847
The one Im trying to get scouted, just make sure his metagross doesn't have explosion

>>31179816
Klinklang is pretty bad, try getting something else with M-Metagross

Choice scarf or band for garchomp in singles?

>>31179904
i use scarf because most of the time going first means you 1hko things already. if you're going to run band, you'd be better off with life orb and use its coverage instead

What are good partners for Mimikyu in singles?

I've heard Pyuku is pretty good, what does it pair well with for doubles? It seems to run Soak pretty often, so maybe an electric type? Or do I want something that can cover its weaknesses?

>>31180060
anything that can switch into its counters which, in this case, means something that can eat steel/poison/ghost attacks