Now that the dust has settled, would you have preferred these guys?

I would have preferred that Greninja.
Can't say I like the other two.

yes
yes
wouldn't mind, but i like greninja as well

>>31148890
Greninja is fine as is.

The others are improvements.

That Okami character looks great

>>31148900
This.

I like them all equally 2bh, I would have been fine with this trio too. Kalis had the best starters imo.

yes yes no.

Not that I love any of those three, but chesnaught and delphox are so mind numbingly shitty you'd have a hard time finding something worse.

They're nice designs certainly. I'd say Greninja is definitely better than that fake frog but as much as I like Delphox and Chesnaught, those other designs are pretty cool too and I'd be fine with them as split evolutions.

Yeah, actually.

>>31148916
haha yeah and gen 1 was the most balanced, right

The Fennekin one only. A nine tailed magical quadruped was the most genetic fake for it but stl better than what we got IMO

>>31148930
he said "imo" for a reason

>just make it bigger xD

No.

>>31148988
I'd rather them just get bigger than what we have.

>>31148890
Yes, except for the fennekin final evo.
Looks too much like ninetales.
>>31148988
Literally how

>>31148890
>yes
>no its just a ninetails ripoff
>yes

if there was no ninetails already id prefer that too

Greninja is fine.

Other two are improvements

The first one looks like a middle evo but its still better than the shit that we got instead

>2017
>people are STILL butt hurt over no bubbles

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No.

Fanartists still don't understand how actual Pokemon evolutions are designed

>>31149078
the bubbles can go if they want to, but the tongue is fucking stupid

No, no, frog is okay but looks like a bigger frogadier.

>>31148890
yeah.

>>31149115
You're saying that as if you know how it works. Do enlighten us.

>>31149442

Pokemon evolve, not become predictable, grown up versions of their previous forms. Most fan evolutions look like the latter. When comparing real evolutions to fan made ones, it's not difficult to see at all.

>>31149625
>not become predictable, grown up versions of their previous forms.
So are we maybe retconning some gen one mons here?

>>31149625
>Local smol bird turns into a massive bird of prey

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>>31149442

>>31149673
And just look where that got us.

>>31148890
Only the Frogadier 2.0 is a good fakemon.
The badger isn't too terrible, but the fox seems exclusively based on Fennekin and completely ignores Braxien.
I hope these weren't done by the same artist.
>one relies on the middle stage and one completely ignores the middle stage.

>>31149689
A badass tiger monster that is 2slow to work effectively in battle?

>>31149673
>The Cannon motiff was actually used in-game
Tucannon is what became of the Black-powder Panther, assuming that art has any official origin.

>>31148890
As middle evos? Yes.

>>31149701
He's a bulky pivot when HAs get released

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I want this with some use of bubbles

>>31149673
This. People need to look at the starters (and most three-stage lines for that matter) and notice how the first and final stage look nothing alike at first glance, but a second take reveals subtle patterns and themes that were prevalent throughout the line. Three-stage lines are meant to mirror the awkward development from child to teen to adult and most people who are thirty-six don't look or act like they did when they were six.

>>31149834
Then again, this is 4chan: home of the manchild, so my mini-essay probably isn't going to resonate with anyone here.

>>31149673
Man, top middle and bottom middle look great.

>>31148890
On the fence about the grass one. Seems a little TOO simple. I like it more than what we got, though.

What the fuck is wrong with that Fenniken evo? Who drew that and thought it was a good idea?

Froakie evo is alright. I'm fine with Greninja too, but this is pretty cool too.

>>31149777
I get Incineroar but how does Decidueye make sense as a followup to Rowlet and Dartrix?

>>31149673
And somehow the official one is still not aesthetically pleasing in the least.
But the split second "wow that was unexpected" factor is so much more important than designs that are nice on the eyes, yeah?

>>31148890
I would have liked that fox over what we got. The grass type doesn't look like a pokemon. Water looks like a 2nd stage.

>>31149834
>Charmander is a small lizard with a fire tail
>Charizard is a big lizard with a fire tail and wings
>Bulbasaur is a little ambiguous mammal frog with a seed on its back
>Venasaur is a big ambiguous mammal frog with a giant flower on its back
>Squirtle is a little blue turtle on two legs that shoots out water
>Blastoise is a big blue turtle on two legs with water cannons

>>31149777
I would have really liked the ringmaster one since that fits the whole performer theme the starters have, plus it could keep the ghost type because the american circus is dead

>>31149905
Biggest problem with the fox is that it's more suitable as Mega Ninetales than Final Fenniken Evo.

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>>31149892

>>31149948
Not at all really. Ninetales looks too realistic and different to be related to that design.

>>31149892
Your owl fucking died

>>31149983
Since when did realism have anything to do with mega evolution, though?

>>31149894
Incineroar is extremely aesthetically pleasing to me.
Aesthetic is subjective.

>>31149918
If /vp/ was around when Gen 1 came out
>Why the fuck did it get wings? Where's muh waifu lizard
>A fucking tree
>Why the fuck did it get guns. "LMAO AMERIKKA AMIRITE XD"

>>31150004
I'm saying they don't look like they are related at all, slapping mega evolution in the mix doesn't change that. People who think it looks like Ninetales must have forgotten what Ninetales actually looks like.

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>>31149442

>>31150052
This.
/vp/ would complain even if somebody did something like that.

I like all three of these honestly, but I would keep Greninja.

>>31150070
>No identifying characteristics of a job
It's shit

>>31148890
>just Chespin
>just Ninetales
>just Frogadier but with retarded whiskers
No thanks.

Kalos has literally the best starters, so no

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>>31149956

>>31149956
Good shit.

>>31150359
but he didn't mention Torracat's fuggability

>>31149777
But what about the design doesn't match the stats, which was a problem for a lot of Aolan mons.

The stats it has would work much better with something like the middle fanart version.

Don't care for the Chesnaught but it's still better than Chesnaught

the other two are marked improvements

I prefer Greninja personally, but Gallantoad is OK besides the name. Could take or leave the others.

>>31149777
God, I loved Owltair.

I bet he wouldn't be a slow, worthless piece of shit.

>>31148890
>chesnaught
Yes, but that isnt good either, make a good knight poke, for fuck's sake, gen5 did it, why can't gen6?

>delphox
Better than the original, and not even bad itself, but doesnt follow Braixen well, keep the design ideas, add mage motiff and make it biped.

>Greninja
Oh yeah, if only because tongue scarf will always be the dumbest design choice ever, and that is basically Greninja but angular and more black.

So basically, yes, gen6 last evos were not completely awful, but pretty disappointing.

>>31151478
Can Samurott be considered a knight?

>inb4 can Samurott be considered a good pokemon

>>31151578
kind of and yes

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>>31148890
I don't really like that Fennekin but I still wish it had those proportions instead of the bobbleheaded abortion we got.

I mean it's still a cartoon, but for fuck sake I'd at least like a cartoon that doesn't look like its neck will snap in half under the weight of its awkwardly huge head when I turn gravity on in Gen 28 VR mode

>>31151578
escaliver dingus.

>>31148890
Fake chesnaught is cool. Fake delphox isn't as bad as real delphox, but it's still bad. Fake greninja is OK, if a bit bland.

>>31151769
It's hair anon. That's what makes the head big and doesn't make it heavy

>>31148900
Same
chespin3 looks like a pokemon but doesn't feel like a starter final evo and fenekkin3 feels like it's trying way too hard to be majestic

>>31148918
Chesnaught looks good on 2D, but it's 3D model looks fat and awkward, and Delphox is way too underwhelming and barely plays with it's wizard theme, if it wasn't for it's ''wand'' you wouldn't be able to tell what it's trying to be.