>Healthy Meta

>>31140814
>12 different Pokemon
you're damn right.

>VGCucks will defend this joke format

>>31140814
Who cares, it's the first round and that second team is really badly balanced.

>>31140814
I see no problems here.

>>31140841
>8 legendaries

>>31140814
>dude UBs lmao

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>Full beast team

>>31140868
>dude ayy lmao

>>31140864
>he thinks legendaries = unhealthy meta
unhealthy meta isn't when [x] pokemon are good you shithead, it's when a select few pokemon are dominating by being on every team
this is literally as healthy as it gets

>>31140814
Holy shit it's Tabitha

>>31140864
> Person running a gimmick team full of UBs that don't mesh well
The Koko and Lele are justified but the UB team was dumb fun

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>>31140882
Pokemon has many formats anon

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>>31140908

UBig 6

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>>31140928

>>31140814
found the newfag who has no idea what HEALTHY META actually means
>>31140888
kek'd and check'd

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>Guzzlord

>All UBs

hory shet

>>31140969
aside from guzzlord and xurkitree the other 4 are viable.

>>31140814
>>31140814
Alolan marowak would tear the most ultra beast team a new anus.

>>31140814
Did Marowak dominate this battle? Looks like a mess for the right.

What is up with autists being so pissy about legendary pokemon and UBs? I really don't get that shit. Like this is a VGC tournament where you play with the best team you have at your disposal. No one gets pissy when professional sports teams draft the best players, y'all are stupid. Not saying the UBs are the best Pokemon in this format by any means though.

>>31141001
Nah dude just got dominated by Nihilego

>>31140989
>>31141001
I guess Type: Null was a waste of time and money

>>31140981
>xurkitree not viable

>>31141021
>What is up with autists being so pissy about legendary pokemon and UBs?

They think everyone will use subpar shitmons outside smogon

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>Using Braviary
I love his team already. Best bird bro.

Casual players play to win, competitive players play to not lose.

>>31141057
even kids know that's dumb as shit, fuck i remember fighting one kid in specific back in XY who used like 6 Mewtwo against me

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>>31140814
>Guzzlord

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>>31141043
>pure electric type that relies on choice scarf.

>>31141099
>z-hypnosis

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>>31141128
I bet you think it gives 100% accuracy too.

>>31141099
>tail glow

Pokemon has the absolute worst meta of any competitive game. You might as well talk about the meta of "highest number."

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>>31141157
Too frail and slow to set up. you're not sweeping anything with that speed stat.

>>31141185
Z-Hypnosis then

>Same four Pokemon in every single match

Enjoy your OU faggots, I'll be chilling in the actually fun NU with bro pokes

>>31141207
see>>31141151

>>31141001
Nope. OHKO'd turn one, and the beasts destroyed him.

>>31141239
was guzzlord or nihilego that gave the OHKO?

Is it the same autist who cherrypicks this shit from every VGC stream?

I mean, no one actually uses 6 UBs seriously, most teams have no more than 1

>>31141268
Nihilego Power Gem

>>31141215
Yeah man, lemme just bring my bros Breloom, Metagross, Swampert, and Gardevoir down to NU with me.

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>GameFreak's face when making the UBs and Tapus after designing a Regional Dex and all new Pokemon specifically for a VGC that isn't infested with Genies of Healthy Meta and all the usual shit that comes when they're all available in a generation via Remakes/Other Games

have any of you neets even ever been in a qualifier

>>31141289
>being this in denial

>>31141326
>I know nothing about the meta
fuck off

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>>31141303
well then he clearly deserved to lose. was nihilego sashed or did it outspeed? was there a crit?

>>31141174
But everyone knows that 720 is the best number in the game, 680 can only beat it due to a bullshit powerup Numberfreak gave it to in Generation 6

>>31141341
Nihilego outspeeds of course, and no crits necessary

>>31140859
This, anyone who thinks these teams are indicative of the meta is a scrub

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>>31141355
He fucked up. As expected of a team magma grunt.

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>>31141311

>Bringing them to the one place full of their ridiculously specific counters people like to bring up in shitflinging competitive threads

Please do.

>>31141021
My problem is battle-worthy legendaries are so much harder to come by legitimately. It makes injecting practically a requirement to be competitive if legendaries are necessary on a team.

>>31141319
no, of course not. they are either the following:

>stupid people who doesn't understand the concept of IVs and EVs
>lazy asses who couldn't be bothered with breeding
>people who too stupid to hack their 3DS and just inject if they don't like breeding
>sub 1300 scrubs on smogon or generally sucked ass on any format

do the math, I guess.

>>31141021
It's more being pissed at GF for not even making an attempt to balance things out. No one is expecting Farfetch'd to be great or anything but anyone could do a better job than this.

>>31141151
I mean, its never missed for me, so it must be 100% accuracy

>>31141151
You ever see Bronzong in VGC 16? 60% = 100%

>>31141382
use a synchronizer when catching it and then bottle caps to make your legend mon 6iv

only problem now is hidden power, injectors still have a huge advantage with that

>>31141352
670 is also better than 720 thanks to its bullshit powerup, and 600's bullshit powerup puts it right in the mix as well.

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>>31141484
>>31141501

>>31141558
>tfw 250 gets stupid gimmicks to make it better than 600

>>31141643
>tfw 250's stupid gimmick cost 600 its stupid gimmick
It's not fair.

>>31140887
are you serious? you have no clue what you're talking about. just stop.

>>31140868
Topu keko

>>31141586
Why are crustaceans so angry in this game.?

>>31141185
>setting up something that has 170 spa

Why people do this? Xurkitree's sole purpose in life is to shit all over slow teams.

>>31141797
They're not quite angry, just a bit Krabby

>>31141868
CARLOSS AURGHHHHH

>>31141185
>not setting up sticky web

>>31141861
With the boost it can even blow past resistances, at neutral it's strong but can be walled

How dare somebody use vikavolt over charjabug

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Pokemon is honestly a terrible competitive game with a horrible meta, and that makes me sad because I love Pokemon. Game Freak has no idea how to handle and balance their own games so each gen has its own unique form of cancer.

>>31142102
because it's not meant to be competitive, it's people trying too hard to make it competitive

>>31141586
>people thought Crabrawler would be a prominent VGC mon because of that one trailer

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>>31142123
>Game series all about trainers battling trainers
>When people play against other people it's bottom of the barrel shit
You see the problem here, right? Pokemon has been competitive from the start and GF still fucks it up every gen.

>>31142102
It honestly is and it can't do anything at all about power creep. They can't rotate out pokemon. I know it's been around for forever but the system is just too old. Something new needs to happen.

>>31142160
Aigis best girl

>>31141382
It was really easy for me to get battle ready legendary pokemon legitimately this gen. I have hp ice modest and timid xurkitree, timid hp ice koko, modest hp ground lele (still need hp fire if anyone has one for trade), and I got a timid hp ice nihilego. The lele was the only one that took more than like an hour to get. Hyper training really made that shit way more accessible. I got all the other legendaries/UB's with good natures too.

>>31141174
Clearly you're unfamiliar with the shitshow that is TCG metas.

>>31142244
Even if they can't rotate old pokemon, they could still actually nerf broken shit (hello Landorus and megas in 2018) and have some fucking common sense (who the fuck thought that auto terrain was a good idea when auto weather shat all over BW's meta?)

>>31142102
I won't lie and say the meta is good, but it's extremely fun in a competitive environment. With all the hilariously broken garbage it kind of balances itself out in a fucked up sort of way. At least for Smogon, have zero VGC experience.

>>31140814
Holy fuck what a joke

>>31144527
>At least for Smogon, have zero VGC experience.
The problem with VGC that Smogon doesn't have is that at some points it goes from prediction to blind guessing, with a pokemon's life at stake because of lol balance is for fags.

>>31142102
It was never meant to be competitive but smogon autists have wrapped GameFreak around their little cum crusted fingers

Just use what you like and have fun

>>31144652
>smogon autists have wrapped GameFreak around their little cum crusted fingers
What the fuck are you talking about retard

>>31140814
Stronk, edgy and new. What did (you) expect?

>>31142244
There are completely viable ways to rotate pokemon and movesets out of the competitive meta without making regular players unable to use the pokemon they like. Use the damn generation-indicating iconography like the kalos pentagon and the alola cross properly. Stop making every legendary available in every generation. It is completely within their power to just never give away a single genie with the gen 7 cross, and in gen 8, never a single ultra beast with whatever check those games have. You could still transfer them and play with them, but not in OFFICIAL tournaments because that's not this "season".

Rather than deleting the old icon when they get brought forward to a new gen, let them keep their old icon so they can be kept compatible with throwback formats and seasons to previous generations. Injectors can obviously just create Pokemon with these icons that shouldn't have them, but then you're getting into injecting illegal Pokemon outright.

Rebalance learnsets and TM compatibility in a generation so certain widespread moves that shouldn't be widespread no longer are, or vice versa. Ice Beam doesn't need to be a TM. Making every water-type in the world not able to get it for free would be a start towards improving ice-types. You can still transfer your old Pokemon that learned those moves in older games, maybe even use the fact that they've retained their old icon as a compatibility check that still lets you use that TM on them even if a newly bred one couldn't. But competition legal Pokemon won't be compatible and will have different moves available to them.

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>>31142102
GF is hilariously incompetent at balancing their own games. It took them two generations to realize they made Dragons too strong, but their attempt at fixing it showed they never realized why they were that strong in the first place.

GF's idea of rebalancing seems to be "create a bunch of new OP shit and hope everyone forgets about the old OP shit."

Competitive in this game is just marketing. They make the new shit OP so people use them.

>Hey guys look at this Primal Reversion! So cool and strong!

Wouldn't work if primals weren't used. Same thing with gen 7 tapus and Z-moves.

>>31144722
Just another salty Smogon hater, which I've never personally understood because the concept of Smogon (separating Pokemon into tiers, where each tier lets certain Pokemon shine in their own right) is a fantastic idea. The execution might need some work but the idea behind it is good. VGC is completely fucking awful in comparison

>>31145020
What I've seen is that people get mad that their bro isn't OU, even though they don't even play competitive at all. Sometimes they don't even know Showdown exists and they think the rules and tiers are for playing on cart.
>Muh bro Raticate is PU? Fuck Smogon.

>>31141734
Sick argument bud, come back when you're older

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>>31142148

>>31144518
It wasn't auto weather that fucked up BW, it was Perma weather.

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>>31140981
>Guzzlord
>Not Viable

Dude's a tank with decent other stats. Explain.

>>31146667
He has an incredibly bad typing when fairies dominate the format, and his actual defense stats are lack luster.

>>31146612
>implying that Charizard didn't shit all over VGC14 too

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>>31146732
Ah. Both his attack stats were on par with pseudos, though. And it seems his giant HP makes up for his subpar defenses. If he had leftovers, he'd probably be more viable. Shame about that movepool though...