ITT: Go back 3 months in time and tell /vp/ about the Gen 7 meta
>Talonflame is PU trash now
>two of the biggest OU threats are both Bug/Fighting
>Greninja is even more broken than before
is buzzwole really as big of a threat as pheromosa?
>>31105845
no, pheromosa is a bigger thread. but theyre both good
Genies were removed, but now we have a Steel/Flying type that can stall in VGC.
>Marowak was the hero we needed
>>31105660
This fucker is UU now
>>31105660
>>Greninja is even more broken than before
then why isn't it banned yet?
>>31106113
smogon checks one pokemon at a time, chill out
also power creep
Mantine and Pelipper are both OU!
>>31105862
>Ash-Greninja used Water Shuriken!
When Smogon suspects Greninja again will the two forms treated as the same or different like megas?
>>31106527
different