TCG/PTCGO General

>TotT: How would you use pic related?
Against Accelgor or trading for packs.

>TotT: How would you use pic related?
idk

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Are there any differences in mechanics or advantages in Pokemon types like in MTG (White has more lifegain, blue can counter spells,etc)?

>>31093113
not directly, but there are certain cards and archetypes linked to each type. For one there is specific support cards like dive ball for water type, focus sash for fighting etc. There are all the special energy (which might give you an idea of the supposed/alleged strengths of each type), and then there are less stringent advantages - like how anything using Fairy energy can benefit from Fairy Garden and so on.

>>31094262
So basically it's a lot closer to YGO's handling of theme and archetype than MTG's.

>>31094410
You'll be seeing a lot of us, by the way, MTG's current metas are kinda garbage.

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>>31094262
gotta ask again. I notice that most decks run only two pokemon types? does running more than two types just doesn't work? Because in MTG, most decks can run up to three or more colors.

I tried OP's suggestion and tried the theme deck on the trainer's challenge and found the theme decks are way underpowered compared to the AI's deck (strong basics against my deck which has basics with lots of drawbacks with their basic attack)

>>31094673
Decks with more than one type of energy are really clunky.
And yeah the theme decks are shit. But when you unlock them for versus, you'll only have to deal with other shit theme decks.

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>buy 12 evolution packs
>pull Mega Venusaur EX full-art, Mega Blastoise EX full- art, Mewtu EX, Pidgeot full- art

>buy 3 boxes of pic related (different promo each time)
>only pull hot garbage

I love these older sets from 2010, and here in Germany they are really easy to find. But I always pull garbage fom them, not even a holo. Guess I'll stick to Evolution.

>>31090786
The FAQ mentions Standard includes XY1-4 but didn't they announce that anything before Primal Clash is considered expanded?

bumpu

>>31096159
FAQ was made in March and needs updated. I might do that today, pretty bored.

t. FAQ author

TToT: Giratina decks.

>>31094438
>Is that so?
Kaladesh sucks that much? Or is it Aether revolt the problem?
Sorry, I stopped at Tarkir

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>>31094673

Decks in the PTCG aren't really built around types. Decks tend to built around a central strategy involving a couple of Pokemon, with the rest of the cards used to facilitate consistent execution of this strategy.

Cards such as Shaymin-EX (draw support) go in almost every deck regardless of the types of the main Pokemon, as typing is not massively important for cards not directly part of the main strategy. As >>31094262 said, there are cards which work with specific types. However, these tend to be added in depending on what you are already using (as opposed to picking a type to use and then finding Pokemon to fit).

page10 bampu

SO! What Expansion should I start collecting for? I've only been getting Evolution and Generations packs so far and im looking for Breakpoint next.

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Give one fucking reason why we still don't have a fucking TCG/PTCG/PTCGO Discord server. I don't know of PTCG/PTCGO Discord server/s.

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So I got kicked out of a tournament for trying to use my Snorlax GX deck. They gave me some bullshit about how the card was marked. Has this ever happened to you guys?

>>31101162
>not sleeving your snorlax gx
There's your problem

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recently pulled these, are they any good?

>>31102646
Hoopa is good draw tech if you rely on EX Pokemon

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Yay, there's a TCG thread! Here's some codes for you guys (and a video).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mc_Fn4C3gE

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We found the Mega Salamance box for a decent price, video of that coming soon.

>>31103229
>>31103309

Yep, it's good to have these threads back. Seems like the code stealers are back too though.

Do people really not understand the idea of posting pulls from free packs? Both of those codes were gone about a minute after you posted them but no pulls have been shown. QR codes are covered so I'm pretty sure one greedy anon manually took both.

>>31098030
Kaladash is boring, Aether Revolt doesn't look to be fixing it, and people are leaving the standard/modern formats in droves for the other eternal formats.

>>31100348

Because we have a fetlife group.

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i really am not finding a need for oblivion wing and fright night just locks me

>>31105456
A lot of top lists have dropped oblivion wing entirely.

>>31105959
in replace with what?

>>31105456
put 1 or 2 more sycamore

>>31106388
so:
-1 oblivion wing
-1 fright-night spear
+2 sycamore?

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Tips for making this deck hit harder faster?

>>31106565
trainer mail

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>>31106565

remove defensive and shit cards
add speed like turbos and elixirs

I've had this deck forever now, it's a favorite of mine.

>>31090786
If I bought two copies of the Keldeo vs Rayquaza duel deck, is all I really need for a Greninja Break deck Talonflames and the eponymous evolutionary line?

>>31106983
You can get the greninja line from the wave slasher theme deck.

>>31107209
Niiice thanks.

If a move would do more damage against an EX Pokemon, would it do the same against GX Pokemon?

>>31107445

No.

>>31106785
What a comfy deck

>>31106565
consolidate your cards.

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>>31106565
>>31106785
>More Brilliant Arrow M Gardevoir-EXs than Despair Ray M Gardevoirs.

Most tournament-topping Gardevoir decks just drop M Gardevoir-EX PRC for a more aggressive build based on M Gardevoir-EX STS because Despair Ray is just easier to set up, Brilliant Arrow requires at least two turns of setup with Xerneas to OHKO EXs.

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>faced three shitbrews in a row in a standard tournament

What the fuck?

>>31109575

It's almost as if they are different decks with different goals. Whodathunkit?

>>31109730
>level of the expanded/standard tournaments <<<< expanded/standard vs ladder

Is one Shaymin EX enough for most decks?

What packs are best to buy right now? Should I wait for SM to come out or is the good cards in other packs?

>>31104968

Group name...?

>>31110177

Right, but one gets better results than the other and the first poster DID ask how to make the deck hit harder faster.

>>31110680
>What packs are best to buy right now?

BREAKpoint, BREAKthrough, Roaring Skies (if you can find 'em), and Ancient Origins are good.

>Should I wait for SM to come out or is the good cards in other packs?

I'd try to pick some up, but a lot of big box stores like Target and Walmart are running thin due to their end-of-the-year sale.

And good cards are always in a mix of the most recently released set and older sets.

>>31110512
No.

>>31111666

So why suggest a different Gardevoir and not Yveltal?

>>31106314
Garbodor.

>>31110512

No, most decks run 3-4. Some can get away with 2, but that's because they have ways of getting those Shaymins back if they have to junk 'em.

>>31111742

Because there are several factors to consider.

>Is the person running a Gardevoir deck because it's their favorite Pokemon?
>Is it because they want to do well in tournaments but not be a complete dickbag and netdeck winning decklists like Yveltal/Garbodor or Greninja BREAK?
>Are they on a budget?

It's also due to them asking for changes, not a complete deck swap.

>>31111852

What you suggested was a complete deck swap to one of the most expensive decks in the format.

>>31111852
Not the anon you're replying to but I don't understand the appeal of trying to mash together both M Gardevoirs and Xerneas BREAK. How is an omni-fairy deck in any way superior to just playing a deck focused on just one of the attackers!

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Can anyone identify what card that is on the left. Got it in a breakthrough pack

>TnT has preorders up for Sun & Moon.
>No preorder page for SR Ultra Ball.

I wonder how long it'll take before one pops up?

>>31111915

I presume it's so that they can have all of their bases covered, but without Aromatisse XY in the format M Gardevoir-EX PRC is a bit of a liability due to its Energy requirements.

>>31112139

It's the FA print of Darkrai-EX, it's easily worth 10-12 bucks.

>>31112179
Ayy thanks

I'm getting close to completing my first legacy deck. Should I prioritize BW era ultra rare pokemon, or HGSS era uncommon trainers?

>>31112422

Go for HGSS-era uncommon trainers. A lot of them can be difficult to find, Junk Arm being one 'em.

>>31100348
If you read their privacy policy they are collecting and selling your info so i'm not fond of it.

>>31112569
Is there a global currency people use besides packs?

It's hard to keep track of the values of packs. I heard Breakthrough just went up in value, so things on the marketplace need to be adjusted.

>>31090786
>TotT: How would you use pic related?
It absolutely wrecks despair ray gardy. I went WLL against it, just my luck that I'd go against it. Pretty annoying but that's what I get for bringing a deck that's not Yveltal

Is it worth keeping tradable packs and codes or should I just use em?

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What is your favorite card

>>31116122
Only been collecting Generations and Evolutions so far, but outta both of em I really love M Blastoise EX I pulled and would like to use him. Only 2-1 in the evo line though. Would need another M.

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>>31116122
those FA Articuno and Zapdos from Generations are the raddest cards I've seen lately. I don't understand why they didn't make a Moltres.

>mfw that picture

>>31117623
Generations is so fucking good, why didn't they release single boosters?

>>31117726
Generations intentionally costs more and has a higher rate of good cards.
If they sold them as a booster box, you'd still be looking at about $200/36 packs.

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Can someone translate the new absol card?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIVFFzM7utY

>>31117726
Atleast the promo boxes are neat. Still looking for Venusaur EX box at a reasonable price.

>>31112755

Nope, packs is the only way to go.

>>31118207

We'd probably have one by now if Pokebeach was up.

>>31118207
Too lazy to write them out in proper form, but first is standard "look at top 4 cards of your or opponent's dick, then return them in any order", the second is "discard all energy, Pokémon hit with this will be KO'd at the end of opponent's turn".

>>31116122
mega mawile!

>>31115776
keep them so that you can trade them for cards you want to make a deck with

>>31120277
Oh wait, it's "return energy to hand". I didn't bother reading the rest of the sentence since usually it's discard.

>>31120320
thanks anon!
How many cards are packs worth? Only have Generation packs but have a sizeable amount of Evolution codes to use. Haven't used Evo codes yet since theres a league near me and I might be able to trade something for em...

I saw a guy trade 30 codes for FA Zapdos

>>31120600
not too sure on how the market is but just look around on the trades to get an idea of what your packs are worth. The good cards usually are worth multiple decks.

>>31120655
>decks
I meant packs

>>31110512
2 is enough. You can start a shaymin loop with them.

I'm having trouble decide what deck I want to make for standard. Can someone give me the rundown on what the more common decks are in the meta and why they are good?

>>31120600
>>31120655

Checking public offers can be good to get a guideline, but be aware that almost every public offer you'll see is a bad deal. You have to make your own offers to get a reasonable trade.

>>31121544
>Yveltal EX/Garbodor
It's consistent, deals decent damage as most attackers in the meta require 3 energies, there's lots of room for tech choices based on the meta such as disruptive cards like Delinquent and Enhanced Hammer, not very vulnerable to disruption itself and has no autoloss matchups because Electric is basically nonexistent. But requires a lot of skill and practice to get good with, as misplays can brick your board and cost you the game, and there are no autowins as nothing in the meta is weak to Dark.

>Volcanion/Volcanion EX
Also super consistent with its setup, can swing for huge numbers if necessary, non EX attacker only gives one prize. Can struggle to set up under Garbodor, awkward mirror match as it's weak to Water, and players who don't watch their energy count will probably lose.

>M Mewtwo EX/Garbodor
Can hit for high numbers with Psychic Infinty and can abuse Damage Change to stay alive and put huge pressure on opponents. Very vulnerable to disruption, inherent inconsistencies with evolving, weak to Psychic which means the mirror is tough and M Gardevoir EX is an auto loss, resisted by Metal so M Scizor EX is going to be difficult to kill.

>M Gardevoir EX
Fast paced, can 2-shot everything in the meta, 1-shots Shaymin EX, Giratina EX (if negated), Hoopa EX, and Mewtwo in all its forms, somewhat consistent, worries little about vulnerable bench sitters dying to Lysandre, resists Dark. Weak to Metal so M Scizor EX is an autoloss, extremely vulnerable to disruption and Garbodor.

>Darkrai EX/Giratina EX
Consistent and fast, can get great utility out of Giratina EX's attack and ability, can hit for huge numbers quickly. Weak to Fairy and resisted by Fairy makes to M Gardevoir EX an autoloss, Giratina EX is fragile to energy disruption and cards like Ranger, nothing is weak to either Dark or Dragon so no autowins and 1-shotting EX's will be difficult.

There are other decks obviously but these are the ones I would start with.

>>31121962
Yveltal/Garbodor sounds like the best for players who know what they are doing, what is the main reasons why people lose with it? It seems like with other decks you can't win against all decks since they have an auto loss.

>>31122070
Bricking, really. And just misplays when you're under pressure. Especially during the mirror match when your opponent is playing mind games.

>>31121962
>>Volcanion/Volcanion EX
What does this deck look like?

>>31122363

You can find 'em here, just look for Volcanion in the results.

>http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/pokemon-events/championship-series-event-results/

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pulled a Mblastoise EX out of the three packs I bought. Not bad.

>>31122390
I keep trying to view decks here, but for some reason these pages are the only part of the site that don't load properly for me

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>>31116122
I seen this posted a few times, and I sadly know the origin of this pic.
>anon is on some dating app
>get check out by a girl into pokemon
>goes though the girl profile
>realize it's a dude
>but post pic for shits and giggles

I think this is how memes are made

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>Buy a physical pack of Pokemon cards for the first time in 10 years for old time's sake and to snag a code for online
>Get a card that's apparently worth 40 dollars
>mfw

Looks illegal as fuck for comp but whatever.

>>31122363
****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 12

* 2 Shaymin-EX ROS 106
* 1 Flareon-EX GEN 128
* 4 Volcanion STS 25
* 4 Volcanion-EX STS 115
* 1 Hoopa-EX AOR 89

##Trainer Cards - 37

* 4 Professor Sycamore STS 114
* 4 Ultra Ball PLF 122
* 1 Professor's Letter XY 123
* 1 Olympia GEN 66
* 3 Max Elixir BKP 102
* 1 Pokémon Ranger STS 113
* 2 Scorched Earth PRC 138
* 1 Fisherman BKT 136
* 1 Escape Rope PRC 127
* 3 Fighting Fury Belt BKP 99
* 4 VS Seeker ROS 110
* 2 N NVI 101
* 2 Energy Retrieval AOR 99
* 2 Lysandre FLF 104
* 2 Float Stone BKT 137
* 4 Trainers' Mail AOR 100

##Energy - 11

* 11 Fire Energy XY 133

Total Cards - 60

****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******

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>>31122363
This is the list I'm currently running, which is only 2 cards off of Ahmed Ali's top 8, since I don't think ranger is necessary online, and he didn't find his rough seas when putting the deck together.

I'm not sold on the Dragonite yet. And I'd like max elixir and trainer's mail both at 4, but I can't find space.

>>31122522
Flareon sucks

>>31122603
You suck

>>31122628
It doesn't do anything that other cards can't do better. I'm always relieved when I see someone playing Flareon, since it's always a free win.

Keep playing with bad cards, though.

>>31122680
Name these cards

>>31122716
Entei, Salamence Ex, Fucking hell even baby volcanion outclasses it since it actually does something before getting to 3 energy and it doesn't give 2 prizes.

>>31122538
>I'm not sold on the Dragonite yet. And I'd like max elixir and trainer's mail both at 4, but I can't find space.
-1 Dragonite
+1 Trainer Mail

yw

>>31122869
It might happen. Still need to test it more.

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>>31122506
>Get full silver Dialga EX secret rare in one physical pack, and M Altaria EX in the other

>meanwhile the online pulls, which are what I wanted, were shit.

Fucking figures.

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Still working on my first custom meme deck revolving around setups involving these devious little fucks.

What types/mons would mesh well with these guys?

>>31123187
victini (the reflip one) i guess?

>>31123187
it's never doing enough damage even for 1 energy to be worth it. it's a poor man's bunnelby/houndoom.
if you're intent on using it run other mill cards like bunnelby, houndoom, team rocket's handiwork, and energy denial.

So why do people use N? It seems like it only works well in the beginning of a match, and once you get past one pokemon ex it becomes a shittier judge

>>31123453
Because setting up early is more important since you need more cards to get started than you need to maintain a steady back-and-forth with the opponent. Also, disrupting your opponent late game is crucial, and N does it best.

>>31123453
early game its a sycamore that doesnt fuck you out of cards that you need later and ruins talonflame, late game its a "fuck you dude"

>>31121962
I've been looking at Greninja Break because it seems very cheap.

>>31124363
It is very cheap and it isn't bad either. You can get easy wins against Volcanion decks and avoid the pain of Evil Ball and Psychic Infinity. Garbodor and Vespiquen are annoying though and Damage Change Mewtwo EX will be impossible to kill.

>>31124539
>Damage Change Mewtwo EX
Wouldn't I use the break ability to hit the bench, or am I misreading/overlooking some cards?

>>31124603
M Mewtwo EX decks play Garbodor so you're stuck with Moonlight Slash and not much else. You'll have to Lysandre it up and try to Slash it twice.

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>>31124897
Also when this promo becomes legal it'll be another way to stop Greninja decks.

>>31124953
Holy shit when?

>>31124953
Jesus fucking Christ.
What deck does this go best in, so I can buy it before the price rises.

>>31125026
And your answer better not be "all the ones without breaks."

>>31125035
Most of the ones that would want to run Garbodor, but can't due to shutting off their own abilities. And some that already run Garb.

It would be more ridiculous as an Ex.

>>31124897
But it needs a tool, is there anything which breaks tools?

>>31125026
>>31125035
Well really just Volcanion because it didn't already run Garbodor and it has a pretty bad Greninja matchup anyway. They'll still have to deal with taking 160 damage from Moonlight Slash but now they'll at least survive without being Shuriken'd.

In Expanded this will be a staple in just about every deck just to keep Trevenant players from evolving.

>>31125007
I have no idea what it's official launch day was but three Fridays after that.

>>31125143
Nope. Welcome to Standard.

picked up the trading card game for the cool arts and the fun of rng
this is nice
there should be a game mode where you just make things from the shit you only get in packs or from like last 10 packs, be super neat.

What are the odds of generations boosters going up in value? I've got a big pile of them sitting here and wondering what to do with them.

>>31125143
that other guy is dumb, misleading, or just fixated on easier times, ignore him.

There are a few things but no, there is no longer the splashable Megaphone or Xerosic like you can use in Expanded. Instead you have to tech specifically for expected Garb match-ups. Rattata, Minccino, & Beedrill-EX are the obvious options.

>>31125832
>>31125832
Ratatta is useless after the fact and Beedrill EX is risky because it's easy to kill and the opponent can just hang onto their extra copies of Float Stone or whatever until Beedrill is killed.

>>31125832

>Rattata, Minccino, & Beedrill-EX

Do people actually play these? Surely dragging out Trubbish/Garbodor with Lysandre and knocking it out is the better way to go?

I play Volcanion and this is how I deal with Garb.

>>31127602
No one plays these.

>>31127602
I think rattata could be usable in Despair Ray M-Gardevoir but putting something with low HP like the other two in the active slot and wasting energy on it to get rid of a tool they can reattach next turn seems like a stupid risk. Rattata is only useful in despair ray because you can remove it from the bench, otherwise it's too much of a liability.

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Take one and post what you get

>>31128826

>Take one and post what you get

Wishful thinking m8. Check out the rest of the thread:

>>31103229
>>31103309
>>31122413

>>31129435
>>31128826
I tried to do the bottom one for you but it was already taken, people are fast lol

>>31129563

Yeah, you usually can't get a code unless you see it within a minute or two. You only tend to get longer than this when Americans are asleep. Problem is that (at least in this thread), the first person has taken multiple codes AND not posted pulls.

In threads pre-Sun/Moon hype, people mostly followed the etiquette of opening and posting pulls. Hopefully as these threads re-establish, things will get back to normal.

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>>31128826
Thank you!

>>31130140

Now I feel like a jerk. Sorry m8. Did you get the other pack too?

Btw, is there a reason it took over an hour to post pulls?

>>31130391
I had to do some chores around the house in preparation for New Year's.

I didn't get the other.

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HEY BOYS, IT'S ME, /VG/ CODE SNIPER. I AM FROM THE PHANTOM KNIGHT TRADING COMPANY! xd REMEMBER TO BUY FROM US!

No, I'm not. I don't redeem codes from here very often, and I've posted every pack that I have redeemed. I just like showing my pack count because it makes my autism happy

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>>31130512
Got any spare Junk Arms for trade?

>>31130592
I started way too late to have one of those. I have basically no packs / cards before XY.

>>31130617
When did you start playing online?

How much money have you spent?

>>31130656
I started my account way back when the game was garbage and basically completely unplayable without real money, but did not really get into it until around Phantom Forces, and did not REALLY get into the pack collection meme until near the end of le epic night march meta.

Maybe $20? In terms of time though... I wish I knew. 1000+ hours would not be an exaggeration...

>>31130713
Okay, yeah. I checked and I have the Beta rewards. The beta basically turned me off the game for a LONG time.

>>31130140
No problem, thanks for posting your pulls

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>>31090786
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?

>>31134037
Because my deck can easily swing for 90 in one turn. Also I can just rip off your Sash with Megaphone or Xerosic.

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>mulligan a few times with my dragon mfug deck
>guy playing colorless mfug starts spamming "You have a nice deck"
>push his shit in and give him the singular "Well played"

>>31134786
>dragon mfug
I'm new and Google is rather less than helpful here.

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>>31135245

>>31135245
"Fug" is Rayquaza, because Flying is abbreviated to Fug in some other language and Mega Rayquaza tends to fug people up.
mfug is mega Rayquaza
Mega Rayquaza has two different cards, one of which is dragon, one of which is colourless.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M_Rayquaza-EX_(Roaring_Skies_61)
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M_Rayquaza-EX_(Ancient_Origins_98)

>>31135304
>>31135309
Thanks guys.

anyone got any good rogue decks to try out? I'm sick of meta all day erry day.

>>31137052
Omastar/Aerodactyl

Ran that in Standard in paper and it was fun. All the shuffling was not so fun.

>>31090786
New player to the App. I have about 650 coins now, is there something I should be aiming for that gives good staple trainer cards?

Hey, I haven't played in a year or so, are any of the theme decks (Burning Spark and newer) worth getting, either for cards or Theme VS? (Dark Hammer still seems to be working for me though)
OP doesn't seem to have recommendations anymore.

>>31138163

Doing trainer challenges will give you a lot of boosters, which should give you a decent starting collection.

You can also enter theme deck tournaments when it switches to tickets rather than tokens. The chest/packs you'll win can be traded for staple cards. Pretty much everything barring VS Seeker is really cheap.

I'm literally just starting. Got 50 some codes from my friend who don't play online.

I threw them in and got a shitton of cards now. What can I make? Doesn't have to be tier one, just a simple little cheap deck.

>>31139463

Have you opened all of the packs, or do you have some left to trade for cards? What cards do you have?

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>>31139566
Opened them all.

These are all the rare ones I got.

>>31139860
There's nothing to make out of these cards. But Shaymin EX goes in every deck so that's a good pull.

>>31139920
So can I pawn them off on the market?

What should I look for?

>>31139860

Shaymin-EX is really useful and is very expensive. Every player has to get them at some point, so you've saved yourself quite a lot of packs down the line.

M Ray-EX, Dragonite-EX and Mew-EX are pretty good cards and can be sold for a bit if you don't want to use them. Zoroark is useful, but not massively valuable. The rest of the cards will probably only go for 1-2 packs each at most.

>>31140057
>>31139973

Firstly, you should look to get hold of the staple Trainer cards, such as:

4 Professor Sycamore
2-3 N
2 Lysandre
4 VS Seeker
3-4 Trainers' Mail
4 Ultra Ball
2-3 Float Stones

Maybe also a Hex Maniac and Pokemon Ranger.

These cards will be the backbone of most decks and are fairly cheap in the main. The other cards you add will depend on what deck you want to play.

haven't played in ages. my only two full decks on the app are night march/crobat cheese, are either of these still good?

>>31140209
In Expanded, yeah.

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>>31140209

They are only valid for Expanded nowadays. If you plan on using Night March, be aware that Karen can cause you major problems.

I don't play Expanded though, so Idk how prevalent Karen is.

>>31140310
>>31140322

what's the cheapest meta deck to put together?

>>31140339
In standard? Greninja.

>>31140339

Greninja is pretty affordable, but Garbodor is very common in Standard and basically hard counters Greninja.

There are other decks with cheap components, but pretty much every other deck needs Shaymins to work and they are expensive. You can try using Octillery as a budget substitute however.

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Just getting back into the game after having to take a break because of university. I had around 15k tokens on my account. I considered going for the 25k maximum, but I doubt I'll have enough time over the next few weeks.

Instead, I just decided to spend them on Roaring Skies packs*. I already had a Shaymin-EX and enough to trade for a couple more, but getting them with tokens is the better way to go.

*I already had 6 trade-locked ROS packs, making a total of 81 packs to open. I've opened 36 so far.

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>>31140734

Mediocre EXs.

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Some Rayquaza stuff.

Pretty pleased with the M Rays, as I already have a couple of [C] Rayquaza-EXs from the Winona ladder a from a few months ago.

Forgot pic last time.

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That's all from the 36 packs so far.

>>31140753
>>31140831
>>31140860
Out of 36 packs this isn't bad. Keep going

>>31140903

Thanks anon. Planning on opening some more this evening/tomorrow. Will post future pulls.

>>31137370
list?

>>31141135
Here's a couple examples.

http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/threads/aerodactyl-omastar.132521/

>>31124953
Becomes legal January 6th, next Friday.

>that giratina is ~10 RS each

w-will it go down in price... is it promo only? That's a lot for a card. I guess it'd only be 40 atm to get 4 of them, and you should only realistically need one or two...

At DFW regionals. I've seen Mewtwo, Yvettal, Volcanian, Greninja, and Gardevoir so far.
Play Gardevoir, and the only games I've lost I dead drew badly

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Here's a Zygarde deck code if anyone wants it.

>>31145023
Got it. Thank you.

>>31145070
np man. I don't play the tcg, but my sister in law got me the deck?

I appreciate the gesture and all but

Anyone know how well Yveltal / Garbodor doing at Dallas Regionals? I haven't seen it played on stream yet.

Do you think it is still worth building the deck after it has such a huge target on its back?

>>31144951
How did you deal with yveltal decks?

>>31144951

What's your decklist if you're willing.

Months ago you told me to stop playing because if I was not playing meta then I'm playing the wrong game, so I steped out.
Came back because nothing else to do, I want to steal meme deck ideas.
So, what meme deck do you run? I don't care if your deck has a win rate of 10% I just want to have fun against my friends poorly made "meta" decks.

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>>31145599

>>31125704
Just bumping this question because I'm hella tempted to open them all but wondering if that would be economical.

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>>31146591

Are these real boosters or PTCGO boosters?

Happy New Year from England btw!

>>31140474
Octillery has the advantage of working well in Volcanion decks.

>>31146562
This only works against Yveltals who attach too much energy to him.

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Tilt your heads faggs it's giveaway time.
My 2 cousins each got a tin and don't want to play the online game so here ya go, tin codes at the end.

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2/10

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5/10

people are fast.

>>31146164
Vespiquen/Zebstrika

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6/10

>>31146164
GengarGalvantula

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7/10
Non-tilt edition

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8/10
Non-tilt 2, joltic boogaloo

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9/10
First tin

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Second tin. Merry Christmas and please keep pokewaifu posting off /v/

>>31146669
Real boosters.

Happy new year from Ireland.

>>31147335

Wow, those codes were going in <20 seconds. Were loads of people going for them, or was it just one really fast person?

I hope whoever got them actually post pulls.

>>31147374
This is so sad. How is this possible

>>31147415

How is what possible?

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>>31147335
I also got the Latios one. Thank you.

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>>31147374
Def real codes, sucks that more different people didn't get them.

>>31146562
>>31146735
It also only works if you're playing Expanded.

>>31147344

Sorry I can't help you in that case m8. I only play online so I don't really know the irl market.

Thinking simplistically, I'd suggest that once Generations' cards rotate out of Standard the packs will drop in value. However, Generations doesn't have too many commonly used cards in it and so this might be outweighed by the scarcity of the packs in future.

Also, Generations is supposed to have pretty good pull rates, so they could be fun to open.

>>31148045
I'm new to this game, but I know from MtG that a card which reaches most of its value from the opponent overextending usually isn't a good card.

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>>31148080

>a card which reaches most of its value from the opponent overextending usually isn't a good card.

Yeah, this is fairly accurate. Good players tend not to use cards unnecessarily and are likely to adjust their play to hinder their opponent if they can. That said though, Yveltal/Garbodor players often load up their Yveltal-EXs with energy as this actually powers up Yveltal-EX's attack.

As >>31148045 pointed out though, this is somewhat irrelevant as that Dedenne is only legal in Expanded. In Standard, Zebstrika is the way to go.

>>31148354
Going by the whole "most things need three energies" comment somewhere above, Yveltal EX seems to do 120 damage minimum. This isn't enough? Also, with the two energies, Dedenne only does 80 damage, and would need three attacks to kill Yveltal, and Yveltal one-shots it.

>>31148424
>and Yveltal one-shots it.
Assuming the Dedenne has an energy attachd, I mean.

>>31145599

Gardevoir has a decent matchup against Yveltal. As long as you don't get off to a slow start against a Fright Night Yveltal, you usually do well.

Rate my budget kitchen table deck.
As a disclaimer I'm using only stuff I've got in packs/traded for with my brother, have yet to buy singles of trainers (which it desperately needs to be competitive).

Snorlax GX x2
Articuno (Gen 25) x1
Lapras (BP 28) x1
Palkia EX (BP 31) x1
Remoraid (BT 32) x1
Octillery (BT 33) x1
Snorunt (RC7) x2
Frosslass (RC8) x2
Shellder (Gen 19) x2
Cloyster (Gen 20) x2

Team Flare Grunt (Gen 73) x1
Fighting Fury Belt (BP 99) x2
Tierno (BP 112) x3
Shauna (Gen 72) x4
Ninja Boy (SS 103) x2
Crushing Hammer (Gen 60) x2
Pokemon Fan Club (FC 107) x1
Lysandre (AO 78) x1
Energy Switch (Gen 61) x2
Max Elixir (BP 102) x2
Professor Sycamore (DP 107) x2
Super Rod (BT 149) x1
Ultra Ball (FC 113) x2
Professor's Letter (BT 146) x4
Wally (RC 27) x2
Energy Retrieval (PC 126) x1

Double Colorless Energy x4
Water Energy x9

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>>31148424
>>31148433

>Yveltal EX seems to do 120 damage minimum. This isn't enough?

It can be, but against many decks this will leave you only taking 2HKOs and lots of the top decks atm can OHKO Yveltal. As such, Yveltal may well need more energy attachments.


>Also, with the two energies, Dedenne only does 80 damage, and would need three attacks to kill Yveltal, and Yveltal one-shots it.

Well Dedenne hits Yveltal-EX for weakness (x2) which has to be taken into account. That said, Dedenne really wouldn't be the best way to handle Yveltal-EX. Zebstrika (pic related) OHKOs even if Yveltal-EX has a Fighting Fury Belt attached.

>>31148576
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/231498
Buy two asap.

>steel waifu turns every one of your mons with a metal energy into Steelix Prime
th-this is good, right? RIGHT!?

;_; i miss my steel deck

>>31149314
>that price when 2 vs seekers are almost half the price

Damn nigga, that's pretty good. Thanks for the heads up.

>>31149314
>literally every staple trainer

holy shit. thanks anon!

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All hail to the king. A new year for the bird.

>>31151227
>if only the 3 oldest sets rotate next year, we'll still have a full year of yveltal/garb

JUST

>>31151408
>all of this could be fixed with tool removal
>nah

Based TPCi.

>>31151227
How many years has Yveltal been one of the most dominant decks in the format? 4? Jesus Christ PCL just reprint that Tool Scrapped already

>>31151649
I'm expecting Generations onwards, which would also mean the death of Mewtwo and Greninja.
Still another nine months until then though.

>>31153306

BREAKthrough-on makes the most sense. It allows them to keep Generations around for 3 years.

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But I just logged in...

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>One Shaymin in deck, 8 other basics
>currently on 8-game streak of Shaymin starts

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I'd like to buy a complete set of XY Evolutions, just for nostalgia's sake. What's the most efficient way of filling it out, buying cards individually, buying boxes, or buying a box and buying whatever cards I don't pick?

>>31154990
I ended up buying 2 xy trainer boxes and 10 of those 3 pack bundles from that 30% off pre black friday from Target. Came out to be like $3 a pack.

I have a shit load of duplicates of shitty rares and common cards but missing a bunch, mainly a few full arts and some ex's.

I think it's better to just buy one booster box and then buy the singles.

After all the pack openings, buying the singles to finish will cost me $80.

I already have the m. charizard ex full art so the rest is mainly the cheaper full arts.

Ebay had a $15 off $75 yesterday. A booster box was $90, with the coupon $75.

About $2 a pack.

Definitely better to open up a box and then fill the rest with singles.

>>31155050
Cheers mate, probably saved me a lot of trouble, and money

Regarding Trainer Challanges: Do you have to beat them with a different deck to get the next star?

I've beaten a few and not received stars and a common factor seems to be I'd used the deck before. Seems a bit shit if it is true as they only give you the 3 to start with and you'd have to buy at least another theme deck and play at a disadvantage for some to get the boosters. Probably fair with the number of boosters on offer.

I've seen lots of Gardevoir on the Texas stream so far.

>>31155635

yes

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Vikavolt-GX – Lightning – HP240
Stage 2 – Evolves from Charjabug
[L] Charge Beam: 50 damage. Attach 1 Energy card from your discard pile to this Pokemon.
[L][C][C][C] Super Zap Cannon: 180 damage. Discard 2 Energy attached to this Pokemon.
[L][C][C][C] Gigatron GX: Does 60 damage to each of your opponent’s Benched Pokemon. (Don’t apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.) (You can’t use more than 1 GX attack in a game.)
When your Pokemon-GX is Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Metal (-20)
Retreat: 1

Seems alright, just lacking a bit of damage to reach the 250 hp knockouts.

>>31156683
>recycles itself while doing amazing damage
>hits like a truck
>240 HP
Will be a fun card.

>250 hp knockouts
That's going to only be a few other GXs, and depending on the situation you might just snipe a few cards.

Fomantis, Eevee, and Cosmog only pack 60 HP (just looking at S/M basics that might see use). If your opponent is careless with their bench then you get some free picks.

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>>31156683

That card looks decent, but I think the regular Vikavolt card seems like it is probably better though.

Here's the Pokebeach translation:

Vikavolt – Lightning – HP150
Stage 2 – Evolves from Charjabug
Ability: Strong Charge
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may search your deck for a [G] Energy and a [L] Energy and attach them to your Pokemon in any way you like. Shuffle your deck afterwards,
[L][C][C][C] Electrocannon: 150 damage. Discard 3 Energy attached to this Pokemon.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Metal (-20)
Retreat: 3

>>31156880

Also, anyone else really loving the look of Lightning Pokemon with the redesign?

Yellow is my favourite colour anyway, but that silver border really makes the cards look amazing.

>>31156880
Well with Grubbin being Grass you could get either out a little easier with FoGP. One day we might get a Grass Charjabug though

>>31156880
>[G] Energy and a [L] Energy
Sounds amazing on paper, but what deck could you really combo this with?

>>31156880
You can easily play both and they actually combo pretty nicely too. Super Zap Cannon every turn.

>>31156683
>>31156880
>my Charjabug on the field now has a 50/50 mixup
Am I support or am I going to hit everything you got for 60?

The fact that both cards have the exact same energy cost just makes the mindgames so much better.

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>Only have one prize on the prize wheel claimed for the day
>Spin it a second time
>It lands on the one prize already claimed

NA/US SM full list leak fucking when?

Fucking dammit why did SM's JP set/list get leaked early or did it get leaked early yet/not yet? There's been a lot of elite boxes unboxings on jewtubes for SM JP so I figure their set list has already fully leaked. Could be wrong though....

>>31157986
>NA/US SM full list leak fucking when?
The English set list leaked before the Japanese versions were released

>>31158043

Where? inb4 PokéJewBeach. Because they've started jewing their articles by turning them into pay-walls. I don't think I've seen nor recall seeing SM leak PokéJewBeach last I checked...

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>>31158130
I'm sure beach had an article but I first saw it through bulbapedo's twitter sources.

>>31158130
They've been doing premium articles for over a year now, like every other site. It's only competitive advice articles, not news.

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What happened at Dallas?

Are there really 4 M Gardevoir decks in the top 8 and no Yveltal.

>>31158130
full list with translations here: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Collection_Sun,_Collection_Moon_leaked_online

and afaik they don't put this sort of stuff behind paywalls, just the "elite" blogs. Yeah here, you just gotta be spoonfed, took all of three minutes to search: http://www.pokebeach.com/2016/12/collection-sun-and-moon-sets-leaking

So what's the most based theme deck to win on versus theme ladder? I've been using battle ruler and it's been doing pretty good

Wjats the closest thing to control I can play?

Page 10 bump

>>31162787
might as well let it die since we're already at 255 posts. If I see that it dies while I'm lurking i'll make a new one.
What do you guys want the new Tott to be?

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Literal first pack and pulled this, made my dosh back.

>>31162977
>Handling your cards gloveless

>>31162977
Can you mix Jap cards in and still be legal?

>>31163838
No.

>>31163838

Nope, not since DP-era.

>>31160762
>Expanded
Vileplume/Stoutland

>Expanded while being competitive
Seismitoad/Bats or Trevenant

>Standard
Plumebox

>>31121962
What I'm getting from this is that Yveltal EX/Garbador is the only deck with no bad matchups.

>>31166545
pretty much. It's been dominant for a month or two now because of that, but now since that fact is a known quantity, people are teching quite specifically against it, which means it's fading away again. Top 8 at Dallas this weekend included no Yveltal at all.

1st-4th MGard, MMew, MGard, MGard
MGard, Darktina, Greninja, Greninja

Scizor is an autoloss for MGard but no-one is playing Scizor right now because of Volcanion. And MGard can be tweaked to handle the Garb part of Yveltal/Garb easily enough. The whole standard Meta is very rock-paper-scissors right now and will continue to be until SM lands. Yveltal included, just cos there's now big lightning decks doesn't mean it can't be beat.

>>31166770
What's to stop people from making a mega garde / volcanion deck?

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>Little brother's been collecting for a while
>Since moved on to another fad
>tfw free reign to canabalise his collection
tfw find out he binned all the codes

Anything here decent, lads? Recently found my old cards and trying to get into ptcgo. Last booster I bought was Dragon, this is my first time handling an EX. Literally no idea.

>>31167917
Hoopa is great.

>>31167917
the hoopa

>>31167801
Consistency.

>>31167964
>>31167944
Thanks guys, thought that ability looked pretty good.

>>31168267
what do you mean?

>>31168838
You try to smash two decks together you're getting an inconsistent dumpster fire as the end result

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Sorry for the late reply.
>>31145599
Basically if they FN, escape rope to another Gaudy to Mega. PCL to heal. If too much damage is on just discard her.
I also played Absol twice for cleanup KOs. Rattata was god.
Also, they didn't get down Garb until I was too far ahead or didn't have him at all
>>31145683
Here you go
Got questions kik me at notaanon

>>31145527
Yveltal/Garbo is always solid. People are now using Jolteon EX and Zebstrika to rape it.

>>31169196
Forgot to say, I used the same deck at a side event LC on day 2 and went 4-2-0.
The 2 losses were Round 1 and 2 because of misplays due to hangover

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>>31090786
Idk anything about Pokémon cards, but my younger brother's friend may gave me this a few hours ago. He was gonna rip it up for the heck of it, so I said I'd keep it instead.

Worth anything besides sheer aesthetics?

Stopped playing for a while, just decided to start it back up today. Sitting on 125 packs of Steam Siege, 12 packs of RS, 22 packs of Generations and a handful of other varied packs. What are some fun decks to invest in, or should I wait for SM to drop? I already have 3 Shaymin EX, was running M Gard for a long time and I hear it's very popular now.

>>31170188
look at the tott, most people will only use it for trading basically. It's not too good

>>31170313
SM is going to bring tons of fun new cards, decks & archetypes. There are a handful of standout meta-impacting cards - more than any set has had since PF imo, plus plenty of interesting little niche cards to explore.

If you're impatient, do you want "fun" but still tournament friendly, or just fun. If it's more Meta, then >>31121962 is a good round-up of what's topping these days.

>>31170686
>There are a handful of standout meta-impacting cards
Care to mention them? Because honestly I've been looking over the set list and I don't see any cards at all that will see immediate use.

>>31166770
The fact that decks have to all specifically tech against a single archetype is a failure of game design imo.

>>31160762
>>31166056
Google gives me nothing. What is plumebox. Obv vileplume but idk the other.

>>31170686
Where are the spoilers? Trying to find anything out about the meta and upcoming stuff as a total newb is like pulling teeth.

>>31170946
Weakness being x2 damage instead of something modest like +20 damage is the game design failure.

>>31170953
Vileplume Toolbox. A Toolbox deck uses Rainbow Energy and a bunch of different typed Pokemon. You'll find lists for it on Pokemon's official results page for different regionals. I don't remember which regionals exactly had Plumebox top.

>>31171065
>Weakness being x2 damage instead of something modest like +20 damage is the game design failure.
That can very easily be fixed by using "[X] +20" instead of "[X] x2" and not giving a fuck that the transition period will be painful.

>>31171083
I've been advocating a Weakness nerf for years and here we see it again ruining what would be an actually interesting meta.

>>31171015

You can find 'em on PokeBeach.

>>31171119
>I've been advocating a Weakness nerf for years and here we see it again ruining what would be an actually interesting meta.

Weakness was actually nerfed for a while during the DP-era, but was switched back to the traditional 2x back in HGSS and has stayed since then.

>>31171065
>>31170953
Thanks a lot senpai

>>31171331
Wait, so Pokemon TCG is divided by game eras, it appears. Does this mean that the next standard will just be Sun and Moon, or are the rotations purely by year? Or something more arcane?

>>31171331
Pokebeach is fucking garbage, I had to Google "pokebeach 'from SM1+'" just to get a list of spoilers.

>>31170751
Let me skim here; Alolan Muk is a silent lab that allows you to play a different stadium to silent lab, opens tons of strategies.

Vikavolt gives [L] a much needed way to charge up those costly attacks minus the downside of Voltorb. I don't think we'll really see it make an impact until Vikavolt-GX comes along in SM+1 for split-evo decks. If lightning gets good, Yveltal will fade for a while again. Any boosts to lightning is good right now to level the field some.

The Dragonair line (and some legitimately useful lower evolution cards is further evidenced we're being pushed away from big basics to a slower big evos game. See Frogadier, Serpine etc. And the 240HP+ on some of these stage 2s. Nest Ball is small but important to evolution decks that often don't want to discard. Or even just as a fifth/sixth Ultra Ball.

Toxapex & Posion Barb (along with the return of Burn) signal a push by devs of status effects, which ought to slowly move us towards a more evolution-based metagame over big basics since it's the easiest way to shed status. Barb & Raticate Break along with Evos Raticate maybe?

Alolan Raticate is interesting but prone to Ns. Still, it could potentially be impactful enough that people start reversing their Sycamore/N counts because having that disruption to hand will become so important. With more Ns around, that Oranguru ability is a lot more useful than it looks. Non-Shaymin, non-evo, non-supporter draw.

Shinotic alone can bring back a surge in Vileplume decks - a non-item based way to set up more item lock under your own lock..

Decidueye is getting hyped. I don't know about that, but a 240HP that snipes for no cost except getting it evolved could be a big deal.

Primarina's GX-attack alone (heal everything for a DCE) - think of all those decks that couldn't work out because of Max Potion need to discard energy. That could be broken as fuck in the right build. It can be Archied too.

>>31171585
>Character limit
Eevee has been gifted a whole toolbox of tactics it can pull out on turn one. Maybe not entirely it's own deck, but it'll be something.

I don't even know where to start with the box legends, especially combined with the promo Lunaala. Stoppable, but if you dead draw while they get started right..


I'm not saying these will all be meta decks and cards or the meta will drastically shift, but each of these has the potential to start a little ripple effect. Lightning could see a re~surge not seen since Manectric. Grass can come out swinging turn one more than ever.

I'm sure some anon will come in and write off all these cards as trash garbage but that meme happens every set. It's miles better than Evos. And each of the Break expansions had a few useful cards but not many. This set seems to have tons. They are laying out the groundwork here for some future rotation in a few years when it will be SM-on, and here is where those strategies each begin.

For more niche fun stuff, Araquanid can stop Volcanion builds dead and they will have to change their sets if it became anyway viable (it won't though). Passimian can be hitting for silly numbers turn one, and in expanded with fighting support could be unstoppable by turn 2. I've got some ideas for how to use that little Wishiwashi to bring back consistency to Archie builds in standard. Pinsir Giant Fan shenanigans, and plenty more memetastics decks could be made.

>>31171585
>>31171604
Where did you find these, all I can find on Pokebeach is Vikavolt, Sylveon GX, Luluna, Multi Switch, and Absol.

>>31171678
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Collection_Sun,_Collection_Moon_leaked_online

It's on pokebeach somewhere too, but their whole system is fucked while they are updating the layout, can't find anything.

>>31171678
here >>31160468

>>31171721
Thanks sempai.

>>31171585
>>31171736
Oh my God, I never realized that SM+1 wasn't this upcoming set, but the one after. I feel like an idiot.

>>31171491
>Wait, so Pokemon TCG is divided by game eras, it appears.

To an extent, but rotation has nothing to do with it.

>Does this mean that the next standard will just be Sun and Moon, or are the rotations purely by year? Or something more arcane?

Rotations are done every August and only affect the Standard format, with 3-4 of the oldest sets and a block consisting of 30-0 Black Star Promos are rotated out of it.

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Back in these threads after a huge break. Expect witty messages, helpful answers and good memes from your very own anon.

Got into Legacy in the meantime, such a fun format and I felt like I had to do it so I can farm more points on the ladder (I don't gent but I'll hapilly face genters) and seriously compete in Legacy tournaments where the real goods are at.

>>31171331
Going back to the +10/+20/+30/+40 would also make evolving basics bit better. Less weakness in basic form and could potentially hit more evolved forms for big damage at low costs.

Best theme deck?

>>31172633
Tiki.

>>31172633
Dark Hammer if you can get it (not in the shop).

>>31172644
I'm a poor fag so I'm just looking at the shop right now

>>31172653
Out of the shop, Gears of Fire or that one with Noivern.

>>31172662
if I buy the Dark Hammer theme deck it comes with the code to use in online right? I've been needing a deck just to play with friends with so I might as well get it

>>31172690

Yep, it comes with a code card that gives you the theme deck.

>>31172698
what's so good about it?

>>31172749
Consistent and hits hard with bulky attackers. In short, everything you want from a Theme Deck and beyond, considering what's available in the field.

>>31172781
awesome, I wasn't too happy with a lot of the theme decks in the store since a lot of them have pokemon that are basics and 1 stage evolutions and no stage 2 evolutions

>>31171065
>I don't remember which regionals exactly had Plumebox top.
Orlando, Vilebox was just a finalist, unless I'm mistaken.

>>31172465
>I don't gent but I'll hapilly face genters
"Gents" are cancer.

>Join match. They have the coin-flip. I want to play legacy so I don't concede. They spam Angry Face and then play as slowly as possible.

I swear 3/4 of "gents" only go by the coinflip when they have it.