Move Edit Thread

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>nerfing the best anti-offensive priority move

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>>31087008
>nerfing sucker punch BP again

>>31087008
>Bringing more chance into the game

Fuck you OP. This change would make the game worse, not better.

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>>31087008

>>31087008
remove Substitute

oops I fixed both singles and doubles at the same time without touching stealth rock

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>>31087042
>again
Oh, I didn't realize it used to be higher than 80
>checks bulba
The fuck?

More flying moves.

>>31087035
>not nerfing things that discourage offense

>>31088149
Buff wing attack to 80 BP with chance to confuse. No reason for it to exist as it is with how widespread aerial ace is.

Change night daze to a dark type overheat equivalent and give it wider distribution.

>>31087035
>>31087042
1/2 chance to flinch is broken as fuck though.
If something has serene grace for whatever fucking reason, there will be literally no counter for it beyond waiting for it to run out of PP.

>>31089405
Serene Grace + Leppa Berry
New Sucker Punch
Thunder Wave
Recycle
Recover

>>31087062
>doesnt like random chance

Like most autists don't like thing they can't comprehend. You do know life itself it a series of random chances you have little to know control over?

Nerf Scald to 70 BP.
Buff Surf back to 95 BP.
Buff Hydro Pump accuracy to 90%.

Buff all Hyper Beam equivalents to 160 BP and 100% accuracy.
Might as well give those moves something.

>>31087008
Bonemerang
>55 BP
>85% Accuracy
Hits twice.
>Can now hit Flying/Levitating foe.

>>31089465
>I want to have less control over the game
Have you ever heard of roulette? I'm about to blow your mind

>>31090332
This. It's just an EQ that can miss as it is. When I saw the new Pokédex entries about Cubone, Marowak, and Mandibuzz, I figured that we'd get to see Bonemerang finally be able to hit Flying-types but nope

>>31089405
Yeah, and that 10 BP will make sure it 20HKOs half of the meta and 40HKOs the other half.

>>31090658
It can break a Sub or Sash and continue hitting.

>>31089405
The move won't kill anything.

252+ Atk Choice Band Dark Aura Yveltal Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Metagross-Mega: 50-62 (16.6 - 20.5%) -- possible 5HKO

>>31090752
-10 BP means lowering the current BP by 10, not making it 10 BP.

>>31090784
Oh, 60 BP and 50% flinch makes it broken then.

Would be banned like Swagger.

>>31089465
>You do know life itself it a series of random chances you have little to know control over?

And you know what? It sucks ass for the vast majority of people.

>>31090752
now if something with technician had it, it'd be gg

252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Marshadow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Metagross: 218-257 (72.4 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>>31087008
Dragon Hammer
>110 BP
100% Accuracy
>1/4 recoil damage

Rock climb is now a fucking rock move instead of normal

>>31091103
NO
SHEER FORCE TAUROS

>Brain Drain
Psychic
60 power
HP restored by half the damage given. Target's Sp Attack lowered by 1.

>razor wind
>now flying type
>no fucking charge time
>higher crit ratio

It's not that fucking hard GF

>Bonemerang
>If it knocks out a Pokémon on the first time it hits, it hits the next Pokémon that gets sent in on the second swing.

>>31091225
Razor Wind is such a fucking bizarre move. I didn't even know it existed until I recently trained up a Scizor in Platinum. Why the fuck would anyone ever use that move?

>>31087008
>ever wanting Technician Sucker Punch

>>31087008
Prismatic Laser
160 BP
100% Accuracy
>Hits all Pokemon adjacent to the user

>>31091235
Or it just hits again a turn or two later. That'd be cool.

>>31091334
So it's like a modified Future Sight? I could see that being interesting!

>>31087008
Sky Uppercut works like Freeze-Dry, a Fighting move SE vs Flying types

>Razor Wind

Works like beak blast so it has negative priority. beginning of turn it removes entry hazards, leech seed and trapping moves
end of turn it unleashes the attack. is now also flying typing

>comet punch

now always hits 5 times

>triple kick

now always hits 3 times and is now 15 power. power now increases by 15 with each strike

>nightmare

move now works like a combination of Hyponsis and Curse. Accuracy decreased 30%

>flatter

now makes confusion damage run off the special attack stat

>Needle Arm

now 120 base power and has a 50% chance to do an extra 10% flat damage, (think of Rough Skin or Iron Barbs)

>Trump Card

works the same as before, but now only has 1PP, BP is increased by 100 and can only be used at 33% health or less

>Heal Block

Now lasts 9 turns. PP reduced to 5.

>Aqua Ring

now restores 1/12th of the max HP

>Synchronoise

is now a typeless move.

>Prismatic Laser

Remove Charge time. Increase Base Power by 10. also lowers a random move's PP by 20%

>>31091554

For Prismatic Lazer, i mean lowers the PP a random move of YOURS not the opponents. 'm not trying to make it THAT broken.

>>31089457
There's no reason for T Wave when you're flinching 100% of the time with priority, dummy.

Butter off running Toxic.

thunder wave has 100 accuracy for electric types
will-o-wisp has 100 accuracy for fire types

additions:
a decent physical rock move with 100 accuracy
more special fighting moves that aren't focus blast
more physical electric and fire moves
more special flying moves
a freezing move similar to hypnosis

>>31090751
on a marowak that's never gonna help with its shit attack, you aren't OHKOing anything anyway. Sub maybe, but still not giving you much more damage compared to EQ

>>31092347
Priority moves for different types, more physical electric and ice type moves (my poor niggas kyurem b and luxray), yadda yadda

>>31087035
It's not 'anti-offensive', it's 'counter-offensive'.

Focus Miss buffed to 85 Accuracy

>>31091225
>Literally Air Slash

>>31087008
I bet you run Aerodactyl and scarfed Krookodile rockslide spam on doubles you piece of shit.

>>31094798
You know...except a physical alternative, weaker and doesn't flinch

Literally every move with 90 or 95 accuracy should be buffed to 100 accuracy.

Elemental Punches to 85
Elemental Fangs to 80
Icicle Crash to 100
Powder Snow is a priority move
Wild Charge doesn't cause recoil damage
Air Cutter to 40 and a priority move
Shadow Punch to 80

>>31092730

>Marowak shit attack

Did you fall for the defensive marowak meme?

>>31095150

>elemental fangs to 80

REMOVE MEGA TORPEDO

>>31087008
so long as you remove the priority.

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>>31091554
>Needle Arm

>now 120 base power and has a 50% chance to do an extra 10% flat damage, (think of Rough Skin or Iron Barbs)

I Like this

>>31095269
personally i think 70 BP would be better, making it a good safe option that doesn't have the miss chance of whip or the recoil of wood hammer
plus that secondary effect change would make it amazing for bulkmons

>>31087008
Drill Peck is now a multi hit move with 25 BP.

>>31091554
>>Razor Wind
>Works like beak blast so it has negative priority. beginning of turn it removes entry hazards, leech seed and trapping moves
>end of turn it unleashes the attack. is now also flying typing

Also add

>If the move removes any hazards, it doubles in power

>>31087075
>VERY shit starter getting succpunch at incredible hihg speed

>>31087008
>tailwind
>all hazards that are sent while this move is active will be thrown back to the opponent

>>31096344
>160 BP 100 acc power herb move that removes hazards

>Sky uppercut
Bp 75
Acc 100
Hits flying types for super effective

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>>31087008
>Mystical Fire
>-10BP
>Ignores Type Resistances and/or Special Defense
>+33% chance for burn

Now, I'm admittedly not so great at exact numbers, but hopefully this would still make it not feel like this was just to tide a Delphox over until they learned flamethrower.

And maybe seem like a decent option for Mismagius being their only fire-attack option. (not that they exactly need it in my understanding)

>>31087008
>Scizor
90 BP move with priority and a 1/2 chance to make the opponent flinch

Dazzling Gleam hits Ghost types Super Effectively

>>31087008
Better idea
Sucker punch is now a punching move
Have fun

>>31092730
Do you have any idea how Marowak works?

>>31096838
Nothing wrong with that, it punishes hazard faggot strategies and promotes a more offensive centered playstyle

Seriously, the meta has been sneaky pebbles for years,

>>31097958
I would add it's BP to 80 just to get a good ol niche.

>Rock Slide
Now has 100% acc

>Comet Punch
Is now Fairy-type Bullet Seed clone

>Dizzy Punch
Now has 80 BP and is Fairy-type with a 10% chance to confuse

>Wild Charge
Now has 100 BP

>Elemental Punches
Now have 80 BP

>Elemental Fangs
Now has 60 BP and 100 Acc

>>31090868
>Marshadow
>Technician

Nice fucking meme, dumbass.

>>31095150
>Wild Charge doesn't cause recoil
If only. Physical Electric types shouldn't have to suffer this much.

We need to nerf Scald /vp/

Ice Burn, Freeze Shock, and Hyper Beam and its equivalents can be used one time after the Pokemon is sent out, but has to switch out before it can use it again. However it can still move the next turn.

Basically removing the charge/recharge turn, but in exchange, after use you have to switch to use it again. Kyurem-B finally has a physical Ice STAB.

>>31101526
Okay.
Scald can now only be used by water-types. If a non-water type attempts to use it, either via having it or copying it or getting it via another move, it fails.
There, nerfed! No more Emboars or Castforms running amok, Scalding whatever they want! No Crabominable or Dragalge burning things that they shouldn't be, or Masquerain or Azurill having unnecessary moves!
Now it's perfectly balanced.

>>31091291
>thinking a whole whopping 5 extra BP would do anything

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>>31102907
wait fuck i read the op wrong

>>31100464
I dunno, I mean if it ignores type resistances and/or Sp. Defense, especially if it ignores both, I feel like it should sort of be low in terms of base power.

It kind of becomes a 'it's not strong, but you can always counter on it' sort of move.

At most I might say 'keep the BP at 75.