Gen VII signature moves

>>31067942
>Shore Up
Regirock: it's a Ground-type move, but it works decently thematically considering that Sand is associated with Rock-types, and would serve to finally give this thing some decent recovery.
>First Impression
Pinsir and Heracross: the move is called 'Head-on Collision' in Japanese, which works well with being based on stag and rhinoceros beetles.
>Clanging Scales
Noivern: it's a sound-themed Dragon-type, Pokémon have gotten moves for worse reasons before.
>Ice Hammer
Kyurem-B: it's got the big meaty claws for it.

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Can, like.. ANY physical fire type user get this? I mean, I'm one of the four people who actually kind of likes Heatmor, so I'm glad he got something this generation, but still.

I really want trop kick tropius, but it doesn't quite have the leg structure for it. Floral healing could work for a couple of things like meganium and bellossom. Would shadow bone duskull (and by extension clops and noir) be reasonable? All of these are just thematically fitting rather than really helpful (like clanging scales noivern would be).

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Trop Kick for Hitmonlee

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>>31068368
On a similar vein

>>31068368
Realistically what mons would even want this move? All I can think of is Arcanine, bulky Infernape and Intimidate Incineroar. I guess some mons like Mienshao would appreciate it too since it's straight up upgraded Fire Punch. Maybe Tangrowth since it's made out of vines?

>>31067942
Ice Hammer: Not Mew.

>>31067942
I know Torkoal just got a buff but She'll Trap makes perfect sense, right?

Shore Up should go to all Ground and Rock types that are literally made of dirt or rocks (Golem, Onix, Gigalith, Regirock, Claydol, Golurk, etc.).

Purify should go to Muk, Weezing, and Garbodor.

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>it's a "shitmon gets a signature ability" episode

>>31068581
Shore Up makes more sense for Starmie than any of those.

>>31068610
Starmie is not made of sand, idiot.

>>31068605
Also signature moves.

Throat Chop: Bisharp, and any wrestlemon

>>31068581

>Shore Up on Hippowdon w/ Sand Stream

>>31068610

>The user regains up to half of its max HP. It restores more HP in a sandstorm.
>Called "Sand Gather" in Japanese

Palossand is healing itself by absorbing more sand into its body.

It only makes sense for Pokemon that are literally made of dirt or rock.

>>31068623
Neither are any of the mons you named. dirt/rock=/=sand

>>31068610
Not to sound like a weeb, but people should really look up the Japanese name before discussing which mons should get which moves. It's called Sand Gather and has nothing to do with shores.

>>31068700
Yet Ground, Rock, and Steel are all associated with sandstorms. Rock is BOOSTED by sandstorms. While Starmie is damaged by sandstorms.

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>>31067942
Well I made pic related yesterday, so... Hope someone finds it useful for this.

>>31068638
Yeah, this Anon gets it. It works for Starmie insomuch as it's a pokémon found on the beach, but beyond that it doesn't.

You're looking for a Pokémon that would regain health by absorbing sediment, and would also naturally be found on a beach.

Starmie gets Recover anyway. Y'know who DOESN'T get Recover, and whom Shore Up would be a blessing to? Cradily

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>>31068499
Based on design:
-A-Golem
-Jolteon
-Zapdos
-Manetric
-Rotom
-Zebstrika
-Thundurus
-Xurkitree

Who would benefits from it the most:
-A-Golem(weaker but recoiless alternative of Wild Charge)
-Zebstrika(hello mixed sets!)
-Thundurus(better than Wild Charge)

>>31068581
>Steelix, Gigalith, Regirock, Claydol, Diancie, and Aggron get reliable recovery(they're biggest flaws)
>mfw

Zebstrika and Rapidash need High Horsepower.

>>31068499
I'm hoping top kek eventually gets it so I can run a physical move that has higher BP than fucking spark and won't set it up to get oneshot the next turn after wild tackle recoil

>>31068520
FUCKING
FLAREON

>>31068753
>bulbapedo
>throat chop
>psychic fangs
>cut
wew lad

>>31068815
Tapu Koko gets Roost. Why would people even run Wild Charge without a recovery move?

>>31068788
>>31068807
>Zebstrika with Zing Zap and High Horsepower
Please, give my zebra bro some love.

High Horsepower for:
>Scolipede
>Stoutland
>Mamoswine
>Rapidash
>Zebstrika
>Tyranitar
>Emboar
>Hariyama
>Bastiodon
>Torterra

Shadow Bone for:
>Lucario
>Dusknoir


Solar Blade for:
>Sceptile
>Leafeon
>Torterra
>Arcanine
>Magmortar
>Celebi


Fire Lash for:
>Magmortar
>Marowak
>Maractus

Ice Hammer for:
>Kyurem
>Kingler
>Beartic
>Avalugg
>Abomasnow

Throat Chop for:
>Weavile
>Bisharp
>Hawlucha
>Scrafty
>Machamp
>Medicham

Darkest Lariat for:
>Darmanitan
>Emboar
>Electivire
>Hariyama

First Impression
>Heracross
>Pinsir
>Escavalier
>Scolipede
>Weavile


Shell Trap for:
>Torkoal
>Blastoise (Hey, it could learn Zap Cannon in Gen 2, why not?)

Pollen Puff for:
>Jumpluff

Accelerock for:
>Aerodactyl
>Rampardos
>Archeops

Dragon Hammer for:
>Garchomp
>Druddigon
>Snorlax
>Gyarados
>Tyranitar
>Electivire
>Hydreigon

Beak Blast for:
>Staraptor
>Archeops
>Dodrio

Zing Zap:
>Raichu
>Ampharos
>Electivire
>Zebstrika

>>31068862

Throat Chop and Psychic Fangs can only be learned by other Pokemon as Egg Moves, and Cut can only be learned by Kartana in Sun/Moon due to the removal of HMs.

>Queenly Majesty
Vespiquen (duh) and uh...Nidoqueen? I mean it should have Multiscale anyway, if you read its dex entries, and it's supposed to be the bulky form of Nidoking, so Sheer Force is no use to it.
>High Horsepower
Rapidash
>Stakeout
Wachog
>Battery
Literally everyone that has Plus and/or Minus. Retcon that shit.
>Fluffy
Flareon (Still dies to earthquake tho) and Altaria
>Triage
Audino, Alomomola
>Comatose
Musharna
>Tangling Hair
Tangrowth

Justify Anchor Shot going to another Pokemon.

>>31068989
Garbordor because somebody threw an anchor into the dump.

>>31067942
Shore up Garchomp

>>31068989
Aggron, because it would be fucking badass and no other reason is required.

>>31068908
Next you are gonna say Aura Sphere is Lucario's signature, even though Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina all got it.

>>31068889
I'm all for giving pokemon more moves, but half of these don't make sense. Beak blast's whole gimmick is that the user heats up their beak. Are staraptor and dodrio known for their toasty beaks? Archeops doesn't even have a beak. Why would snorlax get dragon hammer? Fire lash maractus? Darkest lariat electivire/hariyama (considering the user's hands get cloaked in fire for the move, darm and vire kind of make sense, but the lariat part doesn't)?
Is there something I'm missing with these?

>>31068989
Drifblim. It needs to land somehow.

>>31068884
Zebstrika should also get Work Up. Would make it a decent wallbreaker with ZingZap,Overheat,HP coverage.

>>31068749
Thought rock is weak to ground.

>>31069109
I actually really like this one.

>>31068989
Arceus.

>>31068753
Cradily does get recover.

>>31068788
>-A-Golem(weaker but recoiless alternative of Wild Charge)
>not using Galvanize A Golem

>>31069071
MASTER I FOUND THAT ANCHOR I ATE

>>31069180
>not realizing magnet pull is its best ability

I bet you used strong jaw tyrantrum after rock head was released.

>>31068960
>fluffy flareon
this would actually be awesome

>>31069207

>Magnet Pull

Why? What can Alolan Golem do to most Steel types?

>>31068878
As suicidal as this is given the ability tapu koko has, I use mine as a rain starter + taunter so I went jolly so I could get as much damage out of uturn as I can

>>31068989
>2016
>still no water/steel boat pokemon

>>31069207
For what purpose would a physical rock/electric type want to trap a steel type?

>>31069091
>Beak Blast Dodrio/Staraptor
Fair point, I didn't realize the move was specifically made for toucannon.

>Dragon Hammer Snorlax
Considering it's basically a dragon type Body Slam, I gave it to heavy or bulky mons.

>Fire Lash Maractus
"It lives in the desert and seems like it would fit it" is pretty much my only justification. That, and it NEEDS coverage.

>Darkest Lariat Electivire/Hariyama
The move info mentions swinging both arms to hit the target, I gave it to mons with big arms or that are very bulky.

>>31068499
>make a good physical electric type move
>make it the signature move of the Pikaclone

>>31068960
>>Comatose
>Musharna
I can see why that would seem like it makes sense, but it really doesn't. When Musharna is asleep in our world it is awake in the dream world, and when it's sleeping in the dream world, it's awake in our world. It's not always asleep.

>>31069269
>they decide give it to another mon at some point in the future
>it's Jirachi

>>31069239
>>31069233
>EQ
>Wild Charge
>Fire Blast

He has more moves for steel types than Magnezone.

>>31069233
Trap Celesteela.

>>31069269

"Oh hey, an Electric-type Double-Edge? Awesome, I can think of a couple pokemon who could something like th-"

>Pikachu line only

"...Fuck."

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>>31069298

This

When Musharna is inflicted with sleep, its eyes open

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>>31069311

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>>31069204
I just love the idea of it shooting chains out of those holes in its armor.

Arcanine, Stoutland->Stakeout (Police dogs, etc)
Tangrowth->Tangling Hair (It's quite tangly)
Banette->Disguise (Banette lives inside the doll)
Electrode->Galvanize (Galvanize explosion please)
Skarmory->Stamina (Just to piss off Smogon)

Anime only:
Porygon->Dazzling

>>31069351
He's right, though. If you don't understand the value of a trapper with EQ, fire moves, and electric STAB (shitty as wild charge is), you probably don't play much competitive pokemon.

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>>31069323
>Celesteela used substitute!

>>31069433

if we're going to piss of Smogon, Regenerator Chansey.

>>31069434
Doesn't Golem get STAB Galvanize Return/Double Edge/Explosion for STAB?

Off topic but:

GIVE
LUMINEON
QUIVER DANCE

>>31069434
Max special attack Golem fails to OHKO the usual Ferrothorn and M-Scizor
Max attack Goelm Wild Charge does laughable damage for SE STAB
Heatran will outspeed and OHKO Golem with Earth Power

I took your bait now stop shitting up the thread.

>>31069558
>Max attack Goelm Wild Charge does laughable damage for SE STAB
This is to Skarm.

Tfw no shore up claydol

>>31069558
STAB Galvanize Double Edge has 216 power, how is that bad?

>>31068989
Empoleon has an anchor in his face.

>>31069558
Magnezone can't ohko Ferro either.
To what, exactly? It's only meant for Skarm and Cele.
Balloon lets Golem win. Magnezone can't beat Heatran at all

>>31069463
I thought smogon loved stall.

>>31069614
Did you reply to the wrong person? I was saying that Galvanize is the best ability for A Golem while the other guy was arguing that Magnet pull is better.

>>31069476
Yes, but that's if you're running galvanize. If you're running magnet pull, you trade better electric stabs for the ability to remove skarmory, magnezone, ferrothorn, and kind of celesteela and heatran (EQ/EP respectively, but shuca A golem is cool and ). Galvanize is fun, but trapping for mimikyu/gyara/buzzwole/etc. is typically a better use of alolem.

>>31068605
>Volt Tackle will never be available on anything except Pikachu
>Light of Ruin will never be available on anything other than >muh Floette

>>31069558
Call me a baiter all you want, in a couple of months nobody will run galvanize Alolan golem (if anybody even still uses Alolan golem). The only application galvanize has is for the lead set, but I can think of about twenty other pokemon that pull off the lead rocks role better.

>>31069669
>muh Floette will never be available

>>31069629
>Magnezone can't ohko Ferro either.
But Ferro can't do anything to Mag while it can Power Whip Golem
>To what, exactly? It's only meant for Skarm and Cele.
Both. Skarm can just roost then either whirlwind you out or keep roosting until Golem dies form recoil.
>Balloon lets Golem win. Magnezone can't beat Heatran at all
And another balloon on Heatran let's it win. Magnezone just volt switches out of Heatran.

>>31068889
Lol at that Dragon Hammer

Do you think they'll just find an A-Exeggutor and just bash the opponent with it?

>>31069595
Even if Claydol did get recovery, its still not going to be walling much with those number of weaknesses.

>>31069778
No, Dragon Hammer is basically just a body slam with a dragon typing

>>31069769
Power Whip can't OHKO Golem.
Skarm can stall. Common Cele can't though, it needs to be fully defensive. Most are specially defensive.
And if Heatran has lefties or grassium?

I don't even think Magnet Pull A-Golem is that good but it has it's uses.

>>31069918
It's heavily implied that DH is Exeggutor whipping his head down to smash the opponent, which is why it's exclusive to a big ass palm tree.

>>31069769
>>31070021
Golem's whole deal is that you can trap heatran and other bulky steel types like skarm in one teamslot instead of using dug+zone like a faggot. That's it. Let's move on.

What about beak blast talonflame? Kinda fits. Not sure if it'd really help much if at all since talon needs all the speed it can get and going last flies in the face of that.

Toxic thread should be given to a few other pokemon, maybe things like accelgor or galvantula.

darkest lariat could go to cacturne (right body shape, is stab)

Fleur cannon should go to gardevoir, altaria, audino and diancie

Burn up should go to pyroar, salazle and turtonator.

celesteela should get heat crash (ever watched a rocket crash or blow up on launch?) though thats from gen 5

Torkoal should get shell trap.

moltres and ho-oh get beak blast

Cofagrigous should get shadow bone

shiftry and kartana should get solar blade

Shore up could go to claydol and golurk.

accelrock should go to archeops and Onix

sparkling aria should go to politoed and meloetta.

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>>31069433
>porigon

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>>31069433
>dat spoiler

>>31068310
WHAT DID YOU SAY, PUNK?

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Male Combee
>Schooling

>>31068700
Sand is composed by rock and mineral particles, so yeah.

>>31069009
I want this.

>>31067942
>bellososm does not get dancer
What did they mean by this. The other three could get Soundproof on second slot, because mandragoras.

>>31068310
Heracross doesnt deserve another buff REEEEEEEE

>>31074817
This would actually be pretty damn cool. Call it Swarming, so it makes more sense. Although that might be confusing with Swarm.

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>>31068889
>stealing ANOTHER marowak signature for lucario
>thinking heracross needs a powerful STAB priority given its already useful mega

>>31075015
Hivemind could be an alternate name

>>31068638
Shore Up is a weird name for it altogether though, seeing as to "shore up" means to support or prop something up. Then again, I guess that's just the localization team's way of trying to be so-called "punny."

Shore Up for Mudsdale,recovery on it would be nice.

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>>31067942
>Shore Up
Hippowdon, the only other Pokémon actually full of sand.
>Baneful Bunker
Amoongus, Scolipede, maybe Quilfish
>Spirit Shackle
"かげぬい Shadow Stitching."
This was made for Banette.
>Ice Hammer
It's literally just Ice-type Hammer Arm, so Regice definitely ought to learn it.
Beartic and Abomasnow could get it too.
>Floral Healing
Florges, obviously.
>Solar Blade
Sceptile, Leafeon, Leavanny, Kartana
Maybe Serperior and Virizion
>Burn Up
Fits really well with Victini and Chandelure
>Aurora Veil
Articuno, Cyrognal, and Aurorus should learn it naturally, all being Ice-types that naturally learn Reflect or Light Screen.
>Shell Trap
Torkoal and Magcargo
>Fleur Cannon
Fairy-type Overheat, no particular reason for it to be Magearna-exclusive.

>>31067942
This shit is ridiculous in STABmons.

>>31068638
I don't want to give ideas to GF but...

>Hippowdon

>>31069489
fucking this
>dex entry says they eat starmie
then why is it so much weaker you game freak fucks

>>31068368
>Heatmor gets a signature physical move
>It has a higher Special Attack

Was this really needed?

>>31068310
>first impression
>heracross
>mega heracross

sweat.jpg

>>31069351
This guy is retarded

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>>31074817
Combee Complete(100%) Forme

>>31068960
I"m still waiting for GF to give Gooey to any forme of Muk...

>>31068989
Sun/Moon even has a Steelix boat. I think it should get Anchor Shot by just ramming its whole body into its opponents.

>>31069207
>using Golem-A for anything else besides that sweet STAB Galvanize Explosion
I bet you actually used Tyrantrum in battles.

>>31069214
It'd still suck. The only thing that can save Flareon is Contrary.

>>31069214
Fur Coat would be better.

>>31069088
>implying signature moves are exclusive.

This is old bait

>>31076237
At least that form gonna be permanent lol

>>31069918
Its link related from a 40' tree

https://youtu.be/60SZ7Hk0wdQ

Why is Smart Strike a TM when like three Pokemon get it? Ramp up its distribution.

>>31069233
It's Fire Blast hits harder than Magnezones HP Fire. Also, it traps Heatran unless it runs Grassium Solar Beam, it also traps Magnezone and doesn't add a Fire Weakness.

>>31069416
Mmm. Golurk then too?

>>31076833
I agree. I'm not even sure what it's supposed to be it's so rare. Why is there any Tm with that small a distribution, like what even is the point just make it level up then.

>>31077119
According to the info on the move, it's the user jabbing with a horn or spike, except every horned mon I've tried to teach it can't learn it

>>31068581
>Shore up bulky sandstorm setter gigalith

Good god

>>31069207
Why run magnet pull when every skarm and celesteela under the sun is running shed shell

>>31068889
Weavile has throat chop already

>>31069558
>Quad effective fireblast on a max SpA Golem won't kill ferro or M-scizor
Geez, I could understand it when the calcs said a merciless venoshock from a toxapex to a whimsicott wasn't enough because toxapex is shuckle with just a better typing and movepool. But this just seems ridiculous, what are these things made of?

>>31070175
Magearna should get light of ruin

>>31075535
Cacturne is actually canon full of sand if dex is be believed. It's a sandcrow.

>>31069214
IS IT FLASH FIRE OR IS IT FLUFFY? WELL, C'MON CHOOSE ONE ALREADY. DO YOU FEEL LUCKY PUNK? WELL DO YA?

>>31067942
Just going to sperg out here and do them all.

>Spirit Shackle
Spiritomb, Duskull line

>Darkest Lariat
Machop line, Hawlucha

>Sparkling Aria
Milotic, Dewgong

>Beak Blast
Fearow, Talonflame

>Ice Hammer
Regice, Avalugg, Abomasnow

>Revelation Dance
Ludicolo

>Pollen Puff
Cottonee line, Combee line

>Accelerock
Nothing... anything else doesn't make sense

>Baneful Bunker
Nothing else makes sense and wouldn't be busted

>Strength Sap
Paras line, Foongus line

>Trop Kick
Hitmonlee, Tropius

>Floral Healing
Bellossom, Budew line

>Instruct
Abra line

>First Impression
Heracross, Pinsir

>Shore Up
Regirock, Hippopotas line, Torterra, Diggersby

>Purify
Grimer line, Koffing line

>Multi-Attack
Arceus

>Shell Trap
Not sure what else it would be okay on

>Zing Zap
Blitzle line, Joltik line, Jolteon, Zigzagoon line (Japanese name is "shocking and prickly," so I figured it made sense on Pokemon with prickly fur)

>Anchor Shot
...nothing that exists now

>Clanging Scales
Noivern, Venomoth (name is "scale noise," and Noivern is known for being a loud dragon while Venomoth is known for being covered in scales plus it gets a cool niche)

Also, the following moves should be more widespread:
Electrify, Gear Grid, Fire Lash, Head Charge, Tail Slap, Power Trip, Heat Crash, Smelling Salts, Barrage

>>31077867
I wouldn't even bother testing.
>double damage, halved by NVE
>half damage, doubled by SE
You'd end up the same either way.

>>31067942
doing some research for this shows that the Lillipup line can be bred Psychic Fangs, but Bulba doesn't say how they can get it.

According to Serebii, the only way to breed it is using a Smeargle and Sketch.

...how often does that happen? What a silly obscure way to get an egg move.

>>31076833
Remember egg bomb?
>tm 37 in gen 1
>only 3 pokemon learned it, 1 was a prevo and the other was chansey

>>31078297
Also Tyranitar since its body is just a 7 foot shell full of sand to protect the Pupitar

>>31070141
Not only that but TFlame can Brave Bird and then still get burns off via Flame Body ... which is probably than Mild Breeze Wings after the nerf.

>>31075942
Exactly why it shouldnt happen

>>31078418
>31078418
>>31075942
136+ Atk Heracross-Mega Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tyranitar: 366-432 (107.3 - 126.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Doesnt do much to Tankchomp but this was the most relevant calc I could think of.
Maybe a Wash Rotom

>>31077924
>Accelerock
>Nothing else makes sense

You have to be kidding me. Golem? Gigalith? Literally anything with rocks on its body could feasibly learn that move. Now, whether giving such a broken move wide distribution is a good idea or not...

>>31077119
>Nidoking
>Rapidash
>Rhydon
>Taurus
>lapras
>Samurott
>Seaking

So either the horn has to be painfully obvious, Gen1, or Ariados.

>>31078533
>Golem? Gigalith
> The user smashes into the target at high speed.
Aerodactyl could get it Oh sweet jeesus yes.
Rampardos, arguably. Through chain Breeding or Tutor though, nothing easy.
Archeops?
Scolipede(?)

Something that has a fairly sturdy body and rams its body into things at very high speed.

>>31078579
Honestly, I feel like it'd be safe on any rock type not named Tyranitar. Rock is a shitty enough type that even if something like Rampardos got it it wouldn't be broken.

>>31078603
Oh fuck, forgot about Terrakion. Keep it away from cancerdog.

>>31070175
Why is Sparkling Aura so trash?

>>31078316
I have never heard of that

>>31068889
>Accelerock for:
>>Aerodactyl
STAB priority that gets boosted by Tough Claws? Where do I sign?
>>31069645
Smogon still bans things that are broken on Stall. Regenerator Chansey would be broken, so Smogon would have to ban Chansey.

>>31078679
Look closely at Tyranitar.
Those black spots on it are actually holes, you can see the thickness of it. there's literally nothing inside of it's body.
Except thousands of pounds of sand.

> Its body can't be harmed by any sort of attack, so it is very eager to make challenges against enemies.
>It feeds on soil. After it has eaten a large mountain, it will fall asleep so it can grow.

>>31078733
That would explain why it doesn't weigh nearly as much as it should, if the actual body is hollow and just filled with sand.

>>31078603
>>31078533
>>31078579

I was thinking Cranidos, Aerodactyl, etc. but I didnt want it to be broken. Also, most rock types don't scream 'fast'

>>31077938
Most things in Field group get some wacky moves of Smeargle.
My favourite is Moonblast and Freeze-Dry for Alola Vulpix.

>>31068826
>7 gens
>20 years
>and the flareonfag still tries to make it not shit
Never ever.

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>>31068889
>choice band accelerock Rampardos

>>31078603
Rock should really get recovery so it isn't just a worse Steel type defensively.

>>31078963
>Rock should really get recovery so it isn't just a worse Steel type defensively.
Which would be a move like Shore Up.

Also, how come there isn't an ability for Rock-types to absorb Stealth Rock yet? They can switch in and absorb it for Defense or HP. Call it "Rockbiter" or something.

>>31068368
>give Heatmor a signature move
>a generation after it was introduced
>a pokemon everyone's already forgotten
>make it run off its lower attack stat
>it's not even available this gen

W-what did GF mean by this? Was there just, like, one programmer who remembered Heatmor who was fired before they could actually put Heatmor in the game?

>>31078862
"Broken" is a relative term. And it's not like Accelerock is a particularly powerful move. Priority moves don't really reach "broken" levels until you're talking at least 90 BP after Ability + STAB with Swords Dance and a good type combo+bulk to go with it. Seriously does anything even use the 40 BP priority moves without an Ability boost these days? Even Accelerock Tyranitar probably wouldn't be broken, seeing as Fighting-types shrug off just about everything it can do and would still blow it the fuck up with any STAB from Mach Punch on up.

>>31078992
>Rock-types to absorb Stealth Rock yet
Archeops.
Absorbs SR, immune to [Toxic] Spikes and Sticky Web ...

>>31078994
>Heatmor was introduced in gen 6
what did he mean by this?

>It's a shitmon has a super good ability but has no way to abuse it and would be literally better on anything episode

>>31079027
>Archeops
>ever getting an Ability that isn't Defeatist

>>31068908
That is the worst bullshit. I mean, yeah, technically you could consider it a signature move, but Bulbapedo's definition of a 'signature move' is just kinda dumb. A move that used to be learnable by almost everything but now got restricted to only one mon is not a signature move, they should just add that to the definition rather than being autistic about it.

>>31079027
I was thinking Regirock, Golem, Onix, Gigalith... mons made of stone, actually

>>31079043
I really hope they do. Game freak needs to just admit they can't properly design a mon with a negative effect ability and change gigas/slaking/archeops

>>31079027
See, even I forgot how long Heatmor's been around. This just proves my point even further.

>>31079028
First thing I thought of was Moxie Pyroar.

>>31068445
It gets stomp..?

>>31079043
Even Mega Archeops would just have Mega Defeatist, which causes it to devolve back into regular Archeops.