When is Ice going to be fixed?

>>31039536
It's been twenty years and Ice has been shit the whole time. Too few offensive ice types, too many Pokemon with better types get ice coverage. Not happening.

>>31039536
when they give it resistances to stuff like water and dragon

As soon as it resists Water and Dragon type moves.

>>31039634
>>31039661
>dragon
literally why

>>31039536
When Game Freak stop giving Ice types shit stats. So never. More resists won't do anything if they keep giving Ice types terrible stats.

>>31039672

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQRWfxkCdU4

>>31039661
Ever tried to hit ice with water? The ice fucking melts.

Be glad water isn't SE to ice in the first place.

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>>31039536

>>31039620
Ice was not shit back in Gen 1, it was one of the best typings in the game, because Blizzard had 90% accuracy, 120 base power, 30% freeze (10% for you Americans). Having STAB on Blizzard was ridiculous back then, and almost nothing relevant resisted it, outside of Water types and other Ice types. Gen 2's type chart rework was absolutely fucking retarded and destroyed the balance for the rest of the series.

>>31039756
This is a grossly simplified and misleading statement. There are plenty of places where water can instantly freeze or ice seed crystals can be used to freeze water. It really depends on temperature.

An Ice type Pursuit-like move would really improve it

>>31039961
So basically game freak got it right and the is no need to make water SE or weak against ice

>>31039861
In Gen 1 it was also a fantastic defensive type because it was resistant to itself (one of the best offensive types), immune to freeze (a fucking death sentence in gen 1) and only one of its three weaknesses actually mattered, that being rock. However every single relevant Rock Slide user was also weak to ice.

Seriously if Psychic didn't exist, Ice would have been the best type in gen 1.

>>31039536
Slush Rush, Aurora Veil, and Alolan Ninetales were temporaly buffs to the Ice-type.

>>31042583
Don't forget Vanilluxe!

>>31039634
>when they give it resistances
Just that by itself, honestly.

>great offensive coverage, no offensive pokemon
>"bulky" ices are only bulky on one side and glassy on the other
>often have narrow or arbitrarily restricted movepools
>SR weakness
>weather effect limits you to ice type or requires giving up an item slot or useful ability for

Ice will be fixed when they make a good ice pokemon for once.