Reminder that Lillie is canonically straight

>>31031608
well duh

Was this really necessary? Why couldn't the script have been the same for both? Did they really need to go to all that trouble?

>>31031608
>Abdallah
I didn't know Alola was in France.

>>31031608
Yes.
Lillie is for Sun and Sun only.

>>31031620
Yuri is trash, and TPCi is making its part to erase any potential of it

>>31031620
>script is pretty much entirely the same
>except for this
>nothing even changes after
Why? What was the point?

>>31031623
>he STILL hasn't excepted that Gen 6.5 takes place in Southern Kalos

>>31031620
Yes.

Faggot.

>>31031608
No fucking shit, only yurifags are delusional.

>>31031646
Literally this. NOTHING else in the game is changed between genders besides this one scene that REALLY did not even need to be changed at all.

It's like TPCi went that extra mile to tick the yuribros off. Why? For what purpose? Every fucking other string of dialogue is the SAME.

>Canon name for Sun is Abdallah
>Canon name for Chicken-Chan is Beardbear
Confirmed.

>>31031670
>>31031620
Kek you MAD yurifags?

>>31031608
>Pretentious Moon assumes if Lillie doesn't like her she must be straight.
k

>>31031670
It was in the nip version too, actually.

>>31031620
>>31031670
go back to Lesbian of Korra

Well when you think about it, the Mizuki version is kind of more romantic/lewder..

>>31031703
Ironically, that was a TCPi change. It's not as ""lewd"" in nip.

Still though, why the fuck was that the only change? Hau/Gladion/Ilima's dialogue doesn't even change. Fucking lazy, Gamefreak.

In addition to the Shauna fireworks thing, they also made Monica in Pokestar Studios your Girlfriend if male and Big Sister if female, instead of just being your Big Sister either way. Male also gets a longer ending. TPCi/GF/Nintendo don't like the LGBTQ community existing outside of battle facility gags.

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>>31031675

>>31031608
Reminder that Lillie doesn't end up with the protagonist either way.

Wait, are we all being ironically stupid, or do people actually not realize that the second one is shopped?

>>31031774
It's actually not shopped. Confirmed true in both Japan and the West.

>>31031774
It's real, you're not the only person to cry "S-SHOPPED!". Those are both screencapped straight from youtube LPs, which you can very quickly fact check by searching the e-celeb's trainer name and going to their respective SM let's play.

You can also look in the script dump, the lines are there.

>>31031774
https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/storytext.txt
ctrl+F the dialogue

>>31031774
Not shopped, I know it looks like it is, but it's not, there really is a dialogue change. The second one comes from an LP with a shittier/blurrier capture device so that's why it looks kinda fuzzy.

Also see >>31031846

>>31031822
>>31031832

>played the game as a female
>said she wanted to travel the world with me

Okay, so we're being ironically dumb. Alright I'll join in in my next post.

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>>31031862
>he played as female

>>31031862
I played as a female and I can confirm the dialogue is exactly as was mentioned.

Why would you lie on the internet like this?

>>31031862
>you: it's fake!
>many people: here is some actual hard evidence it's real
>you: it's FAKE!!!!! IT'S FAAAAAAAAAAKE!!

what the fuck do you want

They're 11 you stupid fucks.

>>31031897

whoa yer rite xD Wow can't believe Gamefreak is afraid of gays, it's 2016 lmfao

>>31031897
post your evidence, your delusions don't count

>>31031923
Fuck meant to quote >>31031862

>>31031940

>one-time scene
>"show yer proof"

Nice meme.

Phew, thought the "GF/TPCi going progressive" meme was real.

>>31031948
There's the dialogue dump, all you have to do is find the quote

>>31031948
People have already told you to look into the script dump (which was literally already pasted in this thread if you're too retarded to google it yourself) numerous times. Take the "shopped" second image quote, ctrl+F, you will literally find it there you ignorant shitload of fuck.

You lost.

Good.

Stomp out that lesbian head-canon before it begins.

Shipping is cancer. Yurifaggots are advanced terminal cancer. Good on gamefreak for cutting it out before it develops.

>>31032057
But the shipping cancer is still in the game.

Shippers are only delusional and cancer if they ship shit that doesn't make sense.

Ship straight pairings with characters who have actually interacted with each other, and it's all good. It's impossible to deny this.

>>31031608
Gotta start somewhere with fixing that low birth rate.

>>31031862
I'm assuming you played in an European language, cause they kept this as is (I only know this about the German one, not sure about the rest).

It is simple she wants to learn how to be a lesbian from Chicken-Chan and she wants to travel with Sun to friend zone him.

>>31031620
Hahah mad faggot

>>31031608
Aren't those if you choose different options though?

>>31032757
Nope. Those appear regardless.

>>31031608
I wonder how it's phrased in the original japanese

>>31032814
Roughly similar, though less suggestive in the female case.

no female protagonists in pokemon generations. lgbt btfo. game freak really hates woman

>>31032892
Cynthia took the place of a protagonist in the giratina episode

>>31031608
>Abdallah
Disgusting rapefugee, plz sudoku

>>31031608
This is glorious. Yurikeks eternally BTFO.

>>31031608
>implying that matters
There's still several times more Chicken and Lillie art than Sun and Lillie, so who cares

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>>31031623
>Abdallah
>MC's default shirt looks like pic related

It all makes sense now.

>>31031620
TPCi, destroying yuri shitters since day one

Since when did people start hating yuri? I thought people loved yuri because muh dick, muh cute, etc. I don't remember it being this hated.

>>31033152
You can live in your headcanon all you want, but it won't make it true. It's funny how delusional yurifags are; very similar to liberals.

>>31033608
Yuri is and has always been boring shit for plebs

>>31033668
If you say so. I'll still enjoy the constant Lillie and Chicken art while you guys get maybe 1 new piece every few days.

>>31033608
A certain group of shitposters started recruiting from leddit and normiebook and now they won't stay on their containment board, see >>31033668

>>31033975
I thought normies would like yuri because muh progress

>>31033668
They are liberals.

She leaves regardless, and we will never seen the MC again unless we get a third version that expands on the story, so why does it matter ether way? GF will never let the player character have a happy ending. Shit is just depressing.

>>31034152
Just write fanfiction :^)

Why is an 11-12 year old's sexual orientation suddenly important?

>>31034164
seriously, it's not like they can struggle much so their preference is irrelevant to your conquests.

What would Lillie have done if MC just tried to kiss her in that cave. Would she reject him and make everything awkward?

>>31034200
She seemed more interested in the MC than the other way around, I doubt she would reject.

>>31034218
She idolizes MC, doesn't necessarily mean she wants his dick

>>31034200
Lillie is MCsexual. She craves Sun's dick and Chicken's futa dong.

>>31031608
Thank God

>>31034271
>wants Chicken to mentor her
>wants to travel with Sun
>tfw she will never be tutored by Chicken while traveling with Sun
>tfw they will never have a threesome
KUSAKA SAVE ME

>>31031670
Actually after Gladion gives you Type: Null he also offers to give you his Type: Dong if you play as a female

What's really lewd when you think about it, is the fact that Lillie is a female girl! And because of that, it means she is equipped with a womb that can be inseminated! Yes, Lillie is a female girl with a vagina! She has a vagina underneath her clothes!

Lillie's underaged female SLIT!

>>31034587
What was the point of this post

>>31031620
Honestly, I agree.

They remove the option to choose your gender at the start of the game - they just ask 'which of these pictures corresponds to you' without asking whether you're a boy or a girl. Why not go the whole nine yards and keep the dialogue the same? While we're at it, the outfits should've been the same for both genders, too.

>>31035249
If animal crossing can do it why not Pokemon?

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>>31035249
Not yurifag. But i agree
The only problem with this is that there would be a lot of trannies in gelbooru and shit.

>>31034587
Wow!

>>31031755
Honestly considering how they ALWAYS picked the male protagonists in pokemon generations, I'm starting to wonder if they just... basically humor people by putting in a female option at all. They don't give a shit, but hey you'll be happy if it's there, right?

>>31035221
It's a copypasta of some kind, it was in a lillie thread somewhere else.

>>31035249
honestly females had better hats and shoes. I'd wear them on my male character.

>>31034587
I would almost be convinced this was written by chris-chan if it had the word china in it a few times.

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>>31035508
This should be obvious to anyone who has noticed that the only way that there's ever been a female rival is if they just used the spare player character. Never once has the female character competed with another girl for supremacy (seeing as neither Shauna or Bianca were serious trainers, yet Hau playing the same role in the story as them was and participated in storyline events).

>>31035771
With the only real exception being Cynthia who... well it's Cynthia. I don't know how to put that part into words without tiring myself out and annoying people.

>>31035268
There's literally no reason.

I'm not even a tumblrfag, and I believe in binary genders, but this is just common sense.

>>31035508
It's more accurate to say that they don't give a shit about spin-offs. Only Ash-Greninja has had any sort of impact to the games.

They really do care about player choice in the games. Which is why Red has all three starters. Which is why Red is the only player character that's made appearances outside his generation. And the canon existence of alternate realities pretty much means anything can be canon.

And no, getting rid of lesbian undertones doesn't mean they don't give a shit. You won't get your yuri option until things get really, really gay.

>>31031670
>It's like TPCi went that extra mile to tick the yuribros off. Why?
because yuri is pleb shit and you should feel bad for liking it

>>31031608
Reminder that the scene you are posting has no indication of romance either way. As traveling together is in no way indicative of romantic attraction. Follow your logic Brock, Max and Tracy all want to fuck Ash.

Also, does anyone what the original scene in Japanese?

>>31031748
You seem like you are pretending to know about the Japanese version, would you mind posting it?

>>31031620
Because Lillie is a trash made to pander to Otakus , waifu fags, and etc.

>>31034164
I thought I was straight at 11. JOKES ON ME, I PREFER THE SAME GENDER AT 27.

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what a time to be alive

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>>31036278
I'm confused, is the goal here some kind inane reverse trolling to make "straightfags" look retarded?

>>31031620
Because having everything for both genders the same would be extremely dumb. Do you want people to call chicken a "boy" in-game? Or do you want Sun to be able to wear girl's clothes?

Actually, I'm sure you'd say yes to both, but no, that's a really shit idea.

>>31033608
Yuri is as popular as ever. No one minds SkylaxElesa or DawnxCynthia. It's only chickenxLillie that's hated.

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>>31036611
>It's only chickenxLillie that's hate
Says who, though?

There is literally over five times more Mizuki x Lillie fan art on pixiv than Sun x Lillie.

>>31036626
>Girl gets more art than boy
Yeah, no shit. How did that fucking happen.

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>>31036653
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.

>>31031670
>It's like TPCi went that extra mile to tick the yuribros off.
The fact that Yurifags treats them establishing a character as straight as the worst thing ever is just proof that Yurifags are cancerous.

I'm actually confused. Do people actually think the OP image is indicative of romantic attraction one way or the other. Or is it all ironic shitposting?

>>31034271
Kiss =/= Dick

>>31034587
>it means she is equipped with a womb
Somehow, reading something this obvious turns me on

>>31036670
WHY IS THAT DRLIBIRD SO SMALL
i cant take it

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>>31036868
It's a baby.

>>31035982
>Follow your logic Brock, Max and Tracy all want to fuck Ash.
are you implying they don't

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>>31035249
>both genders

>>31036670
Delibird is such a cutie in that picture, holy shit.

Any alternate dialogue/changes between character genders is good, because it makes the decision of choosing whether you're a girl or boy more impactful and adds replay value. Kind of unfortunate that this is one of the very few changes, but I do like how buttmad it's made all the yurifags in here.

Stay mad, you degenerate faggots.

>>31037346
No one with half a brain would think the dialog change presented in the OP actually means anything romance wise. Which is why I'm more than sure this is just some kind of stupid reverse trolling.

>>31031608
Wasn't this a dialogue option though?

>>31031608
Reminder that Japan has the shittiest taste fathomable

>>31037847
Reminder that you should read a thread before replying to it.

>>31031620
>gayfags have yet to realize their degenerate fetish isn't normal

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>>31036611

>No one minds SkylaxElesa or DawnxCynthia

I hope they at least know these are non-canon.

Judging by their team's genders Skyla, Elesa, and Cynthia are straight.

>>31037906
see >>31031860

>>31037374

No, you're the one with half a brain.

In various interviews Masuda has talked about steadily putting more romance in the games.


BW2 - Yancy
XY - Shauna
ORAS - May
SM - Lillie

>>31038045
This. While it's true that, when I saw the dialog during the game (I played as the male character), I didn't really think of it being necessarily a romance hint, the fact that they changed the dialog depending on the player's gender makes it clear that they intended it as romance.

>>31038045
>>31038093
>In various interviews Masuda has talked about steadily putting more romance in the games.
>the fact that they changed the dialog depending on the player's gender makes it clear that they intended it as romance.
You're retarded. Even more so considering this is Pokemon you're talking about and traveling around together has never meant romance by default.

And him saying he wants to add more romance to the games does not amount to every single scene being romantic.

Your totally retarded and circular reasoning actually hurts my head.

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I won't let you be safe in assuming I'm just making shit up.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/02/14/afterwords-unabridged-pokemon-x-and-y.aspx

>Q: There are hints of a romance between the player character and Shauna, especially during the fireworks scene, did this romance angle come from the fact that Paris is the city of love? Or would you like future Pokémon games to include more of a love story?

>A: Yes, with France being the basis for the region, I wanted to implement some elements of romance with Shauna when playing as a boy and express a deep friendship when playing as a girl. For example, when running through the forest early in the game, Shauna will stay behind the player. We did this to express that Shauna is interested in the player. The fireworks scene also expressed Shauna and the player becoming closer to each other – going from just having met, to becoming friends, to becoming very close friends.
>In the future, I think I may add more romantic elements if I can do it in a fun way. However, I don't think I want to take it in a direction that shows people fighting or a relationship falling apart. Doing that would take too much of the focus off of catching Pokémon! (laughs)

IT'S OVER, YURIFAGS.
I think Chicken looks better with Gladion anyway.

>>31038147
How is this relevant at all to Sun and Moon?
And you really just proved my point that you're full blown retarded even more. Because I never said he didn't say that. I said that just because he wants to add more romance doesn't mean every single god damn scene in the entire game is intended to be romance.

And I'm still waiting for someone to post the Japanese version of the OP scene. I would really like to what was said exactly. Because I'm almost certain the original line was "I want to learn everything about your world."

>>31031620
Because not every character is gay and in the modern day homosexuality is something that is rather open and accepted? it is canonical that Lillie is straight, not bisexual nor homosexual but heterosexual.

Not every character has to be gay for your safe space.

>>31038286
Why do you think repeating things that have already been said makes you smart?
Why do you think saying things that have already been prove wrong makes any sense?

>>31038307
I never said or implied that I believe myself to be smart nor has anyone stated anything to me to prove what I just said to be wrong.

>>31038333
Thank you for proving you didn't read the thread. At least you know you're not smart, though.

What you said has already been stated in the thread, almost word for word, and been proven wrong.

>>31038347
Annnnnnnnd where is what I have stated to be proven wrong? others own subjective opinions on the scene itself? hell I am unsure why you believed me to have read the thread when I was replying to a post made near the start of the thread, the reason I replied in the first place with my opinion is because...it's my opinion and I want to express it because I have free speech and can say what I damn well please.

Why exactly do you feel the urge to reply to me and get all salty over my opinion of fictional children?

>>31038209
>How is this relevant at all to Sun and Moon?
They went out of their way to change dialogue between two almost adults girls, to make it not romantic. This is relevant because the same thing has happened again, this time with two 11 year old kids.

>I said that just because he wants to add more romance doesn't mean every single god damn scene in the entire game is intended to be romance.
Exactly. Not every scene is supposed to romantic. Just the one scene that was romantic was changed.

>And I'm still waiting for someone to post the Japanese version of the OP scene. I would really like to what was said exactly. Because I'm almost certain the original line was "I want to learn everything about your world."
No, that is not the case. Here is your Japanese text.
https://twitter.com/2matsulife242/status/806066905043726336

Not planning to reply any further. If you think it was supposed to be romantic, think you've won the argument.

>>31038387
The very fact you think replying to a thread before you read in an of itself shows how stupid you are.

>salty
Stay on reddit where you belong. No one is "salty", you're just being called out for being wrong and stupid. Believe it or not, a normal sane person can assess how someone is mentally inept devoid of any emotional attachment.

>opinion
No, you're just retarded. Mainly for not knowing what the word opinion means and for thinking that speaking while knowingly ignorant is rational in the slightest. Also, your "opinion" is not an all covering shield. You are still wrong even if you want to arbitrarily label something an "opinion".

This is all leaving aside how you said literally nothing other than "it's canon because I say so" as your whole argument.

Now, why don't you try reading the thread.

>>31038439
They also went out of their way to change how the female player looked, when she should have just looked exactly the same as the male player. Guess that means the game is totally different if you play as her.

No, "exactly" nothing. Your statement does not follow what I said in an exact fashion. You literally equating "any change at all" to being "romance". Which, again, is fucking retarded. Because, again, this is a discussion about Pokemon, a series where characters have traveled together and wanted to travel together regardless of sex. For literal years.

>that's not the case
>can't read Japanese
>can't even read English
That just shows the male dialogue, you fucking half wit. The "I want to learn everything about your world" is clearly suppose to be what the female original text was.

>Not planning to reply any further
Totally. I have every reason in the world to believe you.

>If you think it was supposed to be romantic
I said the exact opposite, you moron. I said neither line is romantic.

>>31038491
What am I wrong about? a opinion that is currently divided in this thread? why am I stupid for replying to posts that I want to reply to when I see them?

Also you do seem pretty damn salty tbqh, your post length is pretty long over such a short reply and you are slinging unneeded insults my way, sorry about your shit Christmas dude.

>>31038524
The length of a post means nothing. You're just literally autistic and get intimidated by actual communication and finite information that you can't try to hand wave away.

>What am I wrong about?
Literally everything you think. Your "opinion", like you were just told, is not some kind of shield that stops you from being wrong. Just because you feel like saying something doesn't mean what you want to say isn't garbage. Like in this case. What you said is substanceless shit. Not to mention something that has already been said in the thread and proven wrong. Meaning your post was entirely worthless and just further low quality posts in the thread.

It's insane how you don't get that being ignorant is a bad thing. Do you really think your opinion makes you any less factually wrong?

>unneeded insults
No, they are very much needed, as they are just facts about you as a person.

>>31038666
So uh...what happened on Christmas day for you to get this anal pained? or are you just always like this?

>>31038694
Nothing, I'm fine. Again, I'm just not mind cripplingly autistic like you are.
Look at how you are so autistic you can't even pretend to address what's said to you.

>>31038714
So no one contacted you for Christmas huh?

>>31038735
Thank you for further proving my point that your mind if literally destroyed by mental illness.

Do you honestly think giving non-answers makes you look smart?

>>31038760
Ah so I am correct then? having Christmas all alone at your apartment without heating must suck.

>>31035982
>>31036716
If it wasn't indicative of romantic attraction, why did they feel the need to change the dialogue at all?

>>31038807
Don't bother, anon. A lot of people in this thread already did. These are autists who think only kissing or fucking are romantic. Everything else just isn't.

>>31038786
Seek medical treatment for your severe autism.
By the way, I make it a point not to let shitposters have their way. So I will do this literally until the thread is capped.

>>31038807
>>31038836
>Don't bother, anon.
Why are you referring to yourself in the third person?

>If it wasn't indicative of romantic attraction, why did they feel the need to change the dialogue at all?
If it was meant to be romantic, why didn't they change to something actually involving romance?

>calls other people autistic
>thinks wanting to travel together means you want to have sex
The irony is thick.

>>31038286
>Not every character has to be gay
>literally zero explicitly gay characters in entire franchise in twenty years

>>31038842
Aren't you acting more like a Autistic spaz by replying to every person?

>>31038868
I am personally referring more to the Tumblr audience who seem to believe every character in fiction ever is a homosexual.

>>31038867
Don't reply to me unless you're not giving me non-answers.

>>31031608
Unamed Boy cannonicaly knows less than Chicken-chan and doesn't have knowledge enough to teach Lillie something
Poor dumb Abdallah, he's just a companion boy

>>31038894
>>31038905
Autistic isn't a proper noun, and again, just like post length isn't indicative of being "salty" replying to people is not indicative of being autistic. You literally have no idea what words means, you just try to parrot things in what you think are a similar context.

The irony is literally all you know how to do is give non-answers and parrot what other people say. I addressed everything you said, thus it can't be a non-answer. Why don't you just stop talking for a few years until you can learn how to function correctly as a whole.

>>31038937
Once again you act as if what you are saying actually matters or is even slightly factual.

Geez Anon maybe you should just go hang yourself already if you are going to take things so seriously.

>>31038867
>why didn't they change to something actually involving romance?
Because it's still a kids game and they don't want to lay it down too blatantly?

It's the only instance in the game where dialogue is explicitly changed between what gender you are currently playing as. They could have easily left it alone and let both genders have the same dialogue like every other scene in the game, but no, they went the extra mile just to make it different even though it has zero impact on anything else in the game.

If it wasn't intended to be romantic, at all, or at least even hint at the slightest tiniest bit of attraction (as much that can be expressed by two fucking eleven year olds), that only fuels the inane mystery as to why even change it at all? Why not keep it the same? Every other line in the script was fine, but this supposedly singular non-romantic line wasn't? They just HAD to change it? If not for romance, then why?

>>31038977
Once again, you show how belligerently stupid you are and how you refuse to stop being a tool because you rather drag down a destroy a whole thread than just shut up and admit you are wrong.

You baselessly calling something not factual doesn't mean it's actually true. Your word is not fact. You actually need to be able to explain and show why what you said is correct.

Also, anon is not a proper noun either. And this has nothing to do with being serious or otherwise. Being serious does not change whether something said is correct or incorrect.

>>31039025
Is this your first time on 4chan?

>>31039054
No, but you're clearly new. Considering you can't even format your posts correctly.

>>31039057
I mean I dunno man, I am pretty sure I have been posting since 2011 or so but you apparently are better then everyone else so I guess you must be right.

You ever try a Fleshlight before? I think it might help a lot with your pent up stress.

>>31039113
>deleted
Typical.

>>31039078
>2011
Haha. You literally just admitted yourself to being new as fuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism
>Older children and adults with ASD perform worse on tests of face and emotion recognition
>a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by impaired social interaction, verbal and non-verbal communication

You assume everyone is mad if they don't mindlessly conform to your safe space. And you literally can not communicate with other people.

Give one reason you are not seeking medical treatment for autism?

>>31039004
>Because it's still a kids game and they don't want to lay it down too blatantly?
Save for the fact they laid out nothing. Again, change != romance. Get that through your head.

>they went the extra mile just to make it different
They changed literally 10 seconds worth of coding and text. There is no extra mile. It's more like an extra step. Towards nothing.

>then why?
Because why not? It's literally no effort to change. And girls talk differently when it's just between girls. Just like guys talk differently when only guys are around.
That scene was suppose to be a big point in relationship building between the characters. So why not change it a little bit to give it more flare/depth.

>>31039136
Don't worry. it's just a mobile network error.
You're still stupid as ever living fuck. And a post being deleted doesn't change how you are wrong.

>>31039138
>>31039149
Yeah you seem pretty salty to me considering how insulting your language is.

Personally I am just chilling out at three in the morning having a drink.

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Enjoy your cishet bullshit game.

>>31039194
See, pure autism. You literally can not function correctly around other people.

And you are so brain dead levels of stupid you don't know what any of the words you're using mean. Just because you don't have any good traits as a person doesn't mean that I shouldn't say anything about you. If there are no good things to say about you, all that's left are your negative traits. And it's not "insulting" to say facts about you.

>>31039244
Nice projections you got going there buddy, gave me a hearty chuckle just then.

>>31039286
Explain how your assertion is correct. You just saying the word "projection" doesn't actually mean it's correctly applied.
I understand that you are legit autistic so communicating is hard for you, but at least try.

>>31039084
>>31039149
>Save for the fact they laid out nothing. Again, change != romance. Get that through your head.
This is subjective and rude. Can't argue this.

>They changed literally 10 seconds worth of coding and text. There is no extra mile. It's more like an extra step. Towards nothing.
It was an unnecessary 10 seconds towards nothing. And if the goal was nothing, they succeeded, a nothing variable to a nothing script that took 10 seconds that was ultimately worth: nothing.

>And girls talk differently when it's just between girls. Just like guys talk differently when only guys are around.
And yet playing the entire rest of the game as a girl yields no other dialogue changes, even though there are plenty of other instances when the female MC talks to another female character. Same with male characters treating the male MC the exact same as they would if you played as a female in that moment. All this save for that ONE big damn /nothing/ scene. You're applying irrelevant real-world circumstances to a video game whose cast of fictional characters decidedly do not follow them in order to drum up a flimsy excuse for the scene that isn't the one that everybody else is seeing.

>That scene was suppose to be a big point in relationship building between the characters. So why not change it a little bit to give it more flare/depth.
The change doesn't really add any "depth" or "flare" at all. In fact, most people in this thread (and in past threads revolving around the same topic) argue that, to them, the scene actually holds less "depth" as a female than a male. Ergo, from the perceived eyes of the majority in question, the "little bit of change" dampens the fleeting sense of depth they perceive from the male's version.

I take back what I said. The entire scene doesn't change "nothing", it only starts stupid threads like this.

>>31039320
Personally I don't really see a reason to explain anything to some autismo on 4chan who is undeserving of any respect.

>>31039389
Then you are wrong by default because nothing you say has any substance at all. And as it has already been explained to you, you are the one who is autistic.

>undeserving of any respect
The irony. Why do you think you deserve respect? For doing nothing other than shit up the thread and be ignorant?
Not that "respect" has anything to do with this, as it changes nothing about how you are wrong or right.

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>>31032522
I checked the French version, and the changes are there.

>>31039431
Honestly starting to get kind of boring of playing with your severe mental disorders.

Done here now buddy, you have fun being baited by some other guy.

>>31039446
And what about the Italian and Spanish ones? Would be good to see these.

>>31039464
No, you're still going to be samefagging and here.
And it's funny how you are trying to pretend you are not the mentally defective one. Seeing as how you literally are wrong about everything you say.

>>31039464
>gets proven wrong at every turn
>i- i was just baiting guis

>>31039380
I like how you are samefagging, AND you are ignoring how you said you were doing to stop replying. Also, nothing I said was subject, and just you throwing around other random words like projection, calling something subjective doesn't mean it is.

How are you disagreeing with what I said here?

>And yet playing the entire rest of the game as a girl yields no other dialogue changes
Yeah, Game freak is lazy, who knew. You know the very first choice you get in the game where your mom asks you if you think your pokemon is cool or cute? It actually doesn't matter what choice you pick, because either way your mom replies with "I think it's cool and cute".

>to them
I'm 100% sure it's just you. And of course you'd say it hold less significance because you want to claim the male dialogue is romantic somehow.

>perceived eyes of the majority in question
The fact you are literally begging people to think it's the majority only make sit even more obvious you are samefagging.

And again, by the way, Female MC x Lillie has over fives times more entries on pixiv than Male MC x Lillie. You are actually the vast minority here. Not that it even matters, because how many people say something does not change if something is correct or incorrect. A group of retards saying 2+2=5 are wrong no matter what.

>You're applying irrelevant real-world circumstances to a video game
No, I'm not. I'm answering your question. Just because other scenes stay the same, doesn't mean they wouldn't put more effort into what they think is an important scene.

See, here's the thing. They could have changed it for literally no reason at all, on a whim, or anything else. That doesn't change how what was actually said is not indicative of romance at all.

What makes this even more funny is you want to look at it from the other perspective, you could try and argue that they changed it to make less romantic for the male MC and more romantic for the female MC.

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>>31039595
>How are you disagreeing with what I said here?
I never said I was, you're talking to more than one person, but that doesn't help your samefag agenda(?) so it can't be helped if you find faults or blurred lines in the communication process.

Here, I'll just wait for you to finish with >>31039464 then I'll continue.

>>31039698
>you're talking to more than one person
Hah, no I'm not.

And I find it hilarious you are trying so hard to just cop out here because you know your argument has no substance at all.

Also, if you're not disagreeing with that claim, then there is literally no reason for you to be saying it. So your statement does not follow.

People who are belligerently against yuri are bar none the dumbest people in the world.

>>31039736
>new IP

>>31039759
And? How do you think that means anything at all?

>>31039780
You tell me, you did it.

>>31039472
I don't have screenshots but French, Spanish and Italian have the same differences as English.

>>31039790
I like how you pretend to leave, keep samefagging, and refuse to actually address the argument. While instead just mindlessly shitposting for the same of having the last work.

Guess what, shit for brains. Some people have dynamic IPs that change regularly. It doesn't have to mean anything specfic. Just like the change in dialog in the OP.

>>31039843
There are a lot of things you like about me.

>>31039798
I just looked up the Spanish one. Guess only German isn't like that.

>>31032892
>implying female = lgbt

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>>31039848
Pic related is literally you.

Guys. Guys what if it's actually not determined by gender? What if she says one thing if you bully her in all the dialog options, and another thing if you don't?

>>31039881
Why do you keep samefagging?

>>31039854
and what about japanese, korean and chinese ?

>>31039892

Literally the first time I've posted on /vp/ in three days.

>>31039904
But you literally have the exact same typing style.

>>31039912

As fucking who?

>>31039896
Japanese is the same as English. I doubt the other two are any different.

>>31039854
>>31039896
>>31039925
Any one that isn't Japanese is non-canon anyway. Liberties in translation shouldn't be taken as canon.

>>31039912
>typing style
You're too autistic and stupid to understand morphology.
You have dueled yourself into thinking you can read "posting styles" when in fact the only distinction your brain is making is "agrees with me" and "disagrees with me".

>>31039932
>Liberties in translation shouldn't be taken as canon.
>the official English version isn't canon
Really makes you think.

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>>31039995
>people who get paid translate games may alter the original meaning to convey it better to the target audience at the cost of sacrificing the original message

Correct. It's.. really not that difficult to believe. A translation holds less weight, but more "flavor". You can't really say it has the developer's intention or blessing, maybe the publisher.

The amount of autism in here is amazing.

Lilliefags are cancer

>>31040046
>>31040063
Changing your IP again to look like a new person so you can cry out autism and derail the thread from your own, actual autism?

>>31040065
t. Lilliefag

>>31040065
Like I have that much time to waste to cater to your delusions.

>>31040065
I like how you are super mad you got caught samefagging, so now you're trying to accuse every single person who posts of samefagging.

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>>31040065
Jesus fuck I just opened this thread

Fucking kill yourself

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>>31031608
how relevant

Know what else is canon? Men pretending to be straight...married with three kids all the while being gay as glitter. Lillie is just covering up for her carpet munching desires

>>31040148
>canon
This is the biggest fucking meme word on the entire board.

>>31040161
exactly

so OP's original point is completely stupid in every way

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Results of danbooru

If anyone want to do a pixiv one is fine, but I don't think the results will change

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>>31040197
Fan art doesn't really matter. Or at least, that's what my assessment has always been.

>>31040197
As of a few hours hours ago on Pixiv Moon x Lillie was at like 212 and Sun x Lillie was at 33.

>>31040197
>the amount/popularity of fan art dictates what the developers meant or could have meant

What did he mean by this

>>31040215
Why does your insanely biased assessment matters at all? Why do you think saying what you are matters at all?

>>31038894
well when you talk about fictional characters, you're talking about things that aren't real. So yes, they can all be interpreted as gay. They can all be interpreted as straight. They can all be interpreted as lizard people mimicking human interactions. If you get triggered by people seeing themselves reflected on a character you assumed was straight, you need to find something more important to get worked up about

>>31040215
>>31040234
Hello, same person.
Your assessment does not matter at all.
And no one was imply anything about what the developers meant. They were just mocking you for being so belligerent and stupid.

>>31040251
Please learn what the word interpretation means. Because you are literally using it as a meaningless buzz word for "I can never be wrong". Interpretation is a process to how you reach a result, not a result itself. A interpretation can be wrong just like anything else.

>triggered
You need to stay on tumblr where you belong. At the very least stop talking like you are on tumblr here.

>>31040234
Dude, if more people saw this as yuri
then that means it fitted more in yuri than straight

the numbers say so
If developers really wanted lillie straight they would have change a lot more of text
The OP's one is not even the worst of her dialogue

>>31040251
>Triggered
Ah, so you are autistic. Back to tumblr with you.

Reminder that in cannon, there is no romance in Pokemon, just friendship.

>>31040339
>cannon
And there are multiple canons in the franchise. Specify which you mean if you're going to act like you know what you're talking about.

>>31040305
The sad part is that I, the person who called you out on your samefagging, agree with you that >>31040251 is pathetically retarded and and belongs on tumblr. You are still autistic, but that's besides this point.

>>31040304
That's not even close to how numbers work, you're brain damaged.

Christopher Columbus said the world was round and he was right even though mainly everyone disagreed with him.

Fact is not based on majority vote.

>>31040339
The word is canon, and you're canon retarded.

>>31040304
People could see it as yuri, and the numbers could in turn support that, but that doesn't mean GF may have wanted it like that, maybe they didn't want anything. If popular vote meant anything we'd have our first female president instead of one that slanders Gumshoos' western image.

Maybe they legit just wanted a friendship no matter the gender. We'll probably never know until we get an interview.

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Is this a Jojo reference?

>>31040352
>>31040373
the series may be a multiverse (ie the biggest copout in storytelling), but which one do you think this thread is mainly focused on talking about?

>>31040357
I don't see your 'fact' friend, only supposition
useless gamefreak actually pronounce themselves you will have to live with fan's choice

>>31040415
Game Freak could say the sky is fucking periwinkle that doesn't make it true.

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>>31040386
You should have posted this image.

>>31040426
He's not my president.

>>31040415
Look up something called Death of the author.
Fucking Christ, I can't believe how this thread turned out.
I'm arguing the same stance as the rabid anti yuri fag just because other yurifags are so fucking retarded.

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Everyone knows ChickenxGuzma is the best ship either way

>>31040422
>gamefreak make dialogue
>"it's truth because they made it!"
>gamefreak say what the dialogue means
>"it's not true, they are stupid"

anti-yurifags can't be this dumb, holy shit

>>31040422
GAME FREAK DOESN'T OWN THE FUCKING SKY

>>31040456
Game Freak never said what the dialogue means though. Your "arguments" are all hypotheticals based on what you think they could say.

>>31040454
The sad part is, you're the worst anon of them all.

>>31040493
Thanks<3

>>31040456
>anti-yurifags can't be this dumb
No, but you can.

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>>31040454
No, you're faggot shipping cancer.
Guzma is Chicken-chan's Onii-chan.

>>31035249
they didn't do that to appeal to agender/multigender trans fags. it was just a more efficient way to combine two screens ("boy or girl?" + "what do you look like?") into one question.

>>31040513
If people want to argue for yuri, why can't we argue for incest?

while Yuri is the purest form of love, y'all stop being delusional and so assblasted that Lillie is perfectly implied to have a crush on the male player character, but a platonic one if you play as a female.

>>31040513
And you know what most Onii-chans do :3

>>31040514
>it was just a more efficient way to combine two screens ("boy or girl?" + "what do you look like?") into one question.
You don't know that. That's just what you want to believe. Maybe they really DID want to appeal to those people.

>>31040481
what "arguments"? I said an hypothetical situation
At any moment I mentioned gamefreak said anything

stop posting anon, take a rest and come back tomorrow

>>31040541
t. Lilliefag (male)

>>31040562
>t. LGBTfaggotry

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A Litten in a Sock.

>>31040577
What was the point of this post? What a waste. You aren't cute.

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> implying I can't float my ship anyways

>>31040593
Pretty hard to float in a sunken ship, but if there's anyone delusional to try it, it's the yurishits.

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>>31040588
A Jojo Litten.

>>31040553
>>31040553
could be but we'll never know for sure either way. I'd be inclined to believe it if it were a western game, but last time I checked the japs don't really care about trans inclusivity

>>31031608
Yurishitters BTFO yet again

>>31040609
>>31040657
What is it with wanting to see yuri lovers "btfo"? Is it /vp/'s TORtanic?

>>31040609
Yeah what a shame. I'll be over here enjoying my 200+ pictures of chicken-chan and Lillie while staring sadly at the canon Sun and Lillie. Enjoy your lack of content I guess.

>>31040666
I'm just telling the truth, they're BTFO yet again, and it doesn't matter if I want to see it or not.

>>31040668
Is that supposed to bother me? I never said anything about fanart. Tons of canon ships from other series "flop" with their respective fandoms, but that doesn't change that they are canon.

>>31040657
Why are you replying to your own thread spamming the same shit that's already been proven wrong?

>>31040542
>emoticons
Fuck off, cancer.

>>31040528
Jesus fuck you're stupid. They're not actually related.

why straights so insecure about not having a chance with a girl cuz of sexuality even with fictional girls awww the poor fragile millennial male

>>31040657
As opposed to hetshits "winning"?

Wow, what a win. Less fan art, fan fics, and overall love, but I guess it was all worth it for that developer's approval eh?

>>31040730
Okie dokie x3 I still love you owo

>>31040730
You don't get to call someone cancer and make a claim as retarded as "Guzma is Chicken-chan's Onii-chan." and then shit on the equally-retarded replies you get in return.

>>31040752
>fanfics
Please don't subject yourself to that hell. Stick with the pictures, at least they can be good.

>>31040295
lol that's not how I used the word in that post. Is that a canned response you have for this exact argument? Again, you need to find something better to get worked up about

>>31031608
Is this a Jojo reference?

>>31040777
What's like having the mentality of a 5 year old who thinks he funny and smart for doing the opposite of what people say and that intentionally acting bad is cool.

>>31040784
Again, you're fucking retarded. The term Onii-chan is not used in an always literal sense with Japanese speakers.

http://jisho.org/search/お兄ちゃん
It's used as an informal way to refer to older males you are close to.

Fuck, the sheer ignorance of people in these threads is insane.

>>31040386
Cry more.

>>31040804
>lol
Go away. You really don't belong here.
And no, that is exactly how you used the word. Because you straight up tried to use it as a shield claiming you could never be wrong and long as it's randomly labeled "interpretation".

>worked up
You're autistic.

>>31040866
>realistic response about personal interpretations of others, how numbers don't mean everything, and how ultimately the message is up to the developers
>DURHURHURRURRRR CRY MORE

I don't even know what you want me to say to this. Did it really take you 35+ minutes to think of this response?

>>31040923
I was referring to your pointless crying about Trump winning the election.

>>31040943
I didn't "cry" about it, it was just an allegory for what I was really talking about. If I showed sadness for anyone in that post it was fucking Gumshoos, and why wouldn't I? He doesn't deserve that shit.

>>31040972
>shitmon doesn't deserve shit memes

>>31040850
Uguu I'm sowwy I upseted you, daddy. I just want to make you ha~ppy!! ;A;

>>31035982
But why would she want to travel with sun, but no moon?
That's the point. If she just wanted to travel she'd be fine with moon too, but she wants the shotacock.

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>>31041043
Seriously, you need to seek medical help and get treated for your disorders.

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>>31041008
How can he be shit when all three of his abilities are great?

>>31041081
Only if you come with meee, I'll get lost uuuggg :'C

>>31041059
Save for the fact the very fucking post you're replying to explains why wanting to travel with someone is not indicative of romance. And by the way, it's obvious you're still samefagging.

Did you forget this >>31040230
You're such a vast minority in this case it's not even funny.

>>31040972
I was mocking how you think Gumshoos being compared to the 45th President is some kind of insult. At least now Gumshoos will be remembered instead of joining Watchog in the forgotten bin.

>>31041104
Be honest, do you really think your behavior is acceptable?

>>31031608
Outdated news, it turns out this dialogue depends on dialogue choices, not on gender. You can get both dialogues as chicken.

>>31041118
I'd rather he be forgotten than a meme mon.

>>31041137
Yuus :3

>>31041113
What does ship popularity prove? There are popular ships of minor South Park characters that interacted once. There are popular ships of characters from completely different franchises. Shippers are insane. Gays are insane. Gay shippers are completely nuts.

>>31041137
Why are you still replying to it?

>>31041157
Then you need even more medical treatment.
Seriously. What you are doing is not smart funny or acceptable. Read this >>31039875

>>31041144
I'm glad he'll forever be associated with something good.

>>31041113
>uh you're samefagging
lol
but hey, whatever m8.
But I'm not saying she wants the cock BECAUSE she wants to travel, but because she's okay with traveling with the guy, and not the girl.
Either she dislikes the girl, or she wants the cock.

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>>31041184

>>31041184
He's a detective you little shit.

>>31041170
>What does ship popularity prove?
It proves how obvious your samefagging is. Because it shows that there would never be a ton of rabid "straight shippers" around at any given time.

The fact you can't easily figure that out shows how stupid you are.

>>31041175
I'm not an ""it"" I'm a guurl >:'C!

Fantastic thread bros.

>>31041138
Proof, please.

>>31041138
But that's wrong. Unless you got a vid or something to prove me wrong.

>>31041138
Source? Not saying I doubt you, but SM's dialogue "choices" don't really change *anything*. They're just there for flavor.

>>31041199
What did you mean by this?
>>31041211
My only other posts ITT are replying to the guy crying about Trump/Gumshoos memes and >>31031846
Keep being paranoid about samefagging, though. It's funny.

>>31041196
>xddd i typped lol so that tooootlye changes my posting style
No. It doesn't.

>Either she dislikes the girl, or she wants the cock.
This is what you call a false dichotomy. When you try to present a limited number of outcomes to to a situation that could have more.

There is the option she just wants to travel with him for totally non romantic reasons. Because literally nothing says otherwise.

And she may not ask to want to travel with the girl because it's implied that she could if she wanted to.

>>31041248
>My only other posts ITT
No.
And the fact you are trying to lie about it only makes it more obvious you are samefagging. Really, why do you think anyone would trust you based just on your word?

>>31040873
no I didn't lol. Not to meme even harder, but you only interpreted my post that way because of your own weird political opinions.

Interpretation is a (arguably shallow) way of interacting with art. You can interpret a character as being gay, that doesn't make it "true." It's just the way you experience the story.

>>31041138
Nope. If you answer with "I don't know" Lillie says: Oh, thank goodness... It’s such a relief to know that even someone like you feels unsure at times, (Name)!

If you answer with any of the other two, she says: It must be nice, knowing what you want to do. I really admire that.

What she says after any of these two answers is the one that changes depending on gender

>>31041231
>>31041233
>>31041247
Sorry, I'm just pulling your leg. :^)

>>31041307
So, as established in the beginning of this terrible thread. This character is canonically straight. End of story.

Sorry, but I don't make the rules.

>>31041316
No, Chicken is a blank slate with "kindness" stapled to her forehead. She's meant to be (You) so she can be gay.

>>31041283
This level of paranoia is disturbing. You should get some help if you can't accept the possibility that 2 people disagree with you about Pokemon relationships. Actually, I might not even disagree with you, considering I didn't even bother reading the full reply chain of you and the guy you're freaking out about.

>>31041285
>lol
Oh, you're this person >>31041212
Should have figured given how fucking retarded you are.

>opinions
>interpreted
I did neither of these things, you fucktard.

>Interpretation is a (arguably shallow) way of interacting with art
Wrong. Why don't you try actually looking up the word.

>>31041264
You're being really fucking stupid right now, but I don't have anything better to do so I'll try to explain it, once again.
You're not trying to examine a real person's sentences, or rather, they're not 2 different persons.
It's a character in a game, and the person that wrote those lines, wrote the ones for the male MC too.
Do you understand now?
If that person didn't feel like putting this kind of innuendo there, he/she wouldn't have made the different response in the first place.
The fact that it IS different, and that there is a CLEAR 'innuendo' (as in, she doesn't SAY she wants the cock, but someone could interpret it as is) means it was meant to be.
Stop being a faggot and use your brain anon.

>>31041332
Well I'm not gay, so she's not gay to (Me). Are (You) gay?

And even "kindness" is debatable, is she actually referred to that in-game? Or is that just taken from headcanons or fanart of how cute she is?

>>31041343
Paranoia is something that you think without having reason or mental process behind it. Seeing as how your behavior is predictable and stupid, it's easy to have thought behind it. Thus it by definition can not be paranoia.

And it's not about you disagreeing. It's about you trying to present the exact same flawed argument that was already proven wrong.

>>31040752
>hetshits
You couldn't have revealed yourself as more of a Tumblrina even if you said the shipping was problematic.

>>31041392
>tumblrina
Right, go back there.

>>31041383
Seek help. You're taking this way too personally.

>>31041351
No, I'm just saying that she can potentially be gay.

You save Guzma and Lusamine out of the goodness of your heart. You help Lillie out and you forge strong bonds with your Pokemon. So there's that.

>>31041399
I forgot the way, maybe you could lead me there. I know how familiar you are with it.

>>31041432
I wouldn't take it so personally if you weren't so retarded.

>>31041348
>innuendo
There is no innuendo there, you fucking retard. Wanting to travel together is not sexually implicit. As proven with the Brock, Tracy and Max example.

>but someone could interpret it as is
No one with a sane mind would see this. Only literal autistic people.

You are still trying to make the argument that "change equals romance".

>>31041432
No, I'm not taking personally at all. I'm just proving everything you say wrong so maybe you'll learn to be less pathetic in the future and not destroy threads.

>>31041457
>my only arguments are 'you're autistic/insane'
Thank you for your input anon.

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>this entire thread

Someone go bump every thread under this one so it gets knocked of the board faster.

>>31041434
>You save Guzma and Lusamine out of the goodness of your heart. You help Lillie out and you forge strong bonds with your Pokemon. So there's that.

Well the NPCs -say- that's why you did that, that's what they -think- but the protagonist themselves never confirms or denies it one way or the other, we'll never know what they actually think for sure.

Unless, we go with the protagonist being (You) like you said, in which case they think what the player thinks. I think they're a sociopath who just wants to see the world burn. So really, they only helped Lusamine because the world can't burn unless they're the ones doing it.

>>31041482
No, it's not. But you refusing to address everything said in the post you are replying to actually does prove even more that you are autistic.

By the way, I'm still waiting for you to post the Japanese version of the OP scene.

And here I thought we wouldn't have any new, remarkably autistic thread before next year. How wrong I was.

Keep going tho

>>31041497
>>31041499
>>31041517
>>31041583
You aren't cute or funny just because you waltz in here looking like a dumbshit thinking he's superior to everyone else because he's "neutral". If you don't know what the fuck is going on, leave the thread. It's not for you.

>>31041599
I'm not trying to endear myself to you, retard.

Shippers should be gassed

>>31041454
>>31041478
So either you are so obsessed with this discussion that you replied twice, or someone is false flagging as you.

Funny thread. Shippers are funny. That's about the only thing they'll ever be good for.

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>>31041599
This is now a Jojo thread.

>>31041625
>Shippers should be gassed

Really the greatest moral that can be taken from this thread.

>>31041525
https://twitter.com/2matsulife242/status/806066905043726336

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>>31041625
>Shippers should be gassed
Truer words have never been posted.

>>31041525
oh, and this: https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/30588062/#30594135

Some translatorfag there talks about it a bit. I think the general agreement is that the nip dialogue has Lillie wanting to learn about Pokemon battling from Chicken.

>>31031608
>2016
>not being bi

>>31041670
>>31041715
Wow, I did not realize that was the femMC the first time you posted that because of the hair cut.

Anyway, this is perfect. Because it couldn't be any better.

>わたしは...... トレーナーに なって MC-さんと 旅したいな......
I want to... become a trainer like MC-san and go on a journey...

The article と is basically the Japanese equivalent to "and". Notice the と between "MC-san" and "旅". Meaning they are separate topics. Also note that 旅 was conjugated as した. Meaning it's in the perfective form. As such, it means that the conjugated verb is referring to the speaker (Lillie) rather than the subject (MC player).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfective_aspect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_verb_conjugation

Now, as for the FemMC.

わたしは...... トレーナーに なって MC-さんに いろいろ 教わりたいな......
I want to... be a trainer like MC-san by learning everything about you...

Long story short. Whoever translated "like" to "with" in the male MC dialog is a fucking retard.
I'm glad you showed mew this. Now I can safely say there is zero romantic implication is in either scene and you're trying so hard to grasp at straws you've gone insane.

I'm a boy and I wish lillie would hold my hand and make me feel less alone

>>31042040
Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

>>31042615
Sorry, I just assumed you were the person I was replying to. I've been up since like 5am yesterday for Christmas stuff.

>>31042651
You're good, anon. Hope you enjoyed your holidays.

>>31036268
L-Lillie...?