Battle Tree General

No video codes yet but is anyone else having issues with ConfuseRay/Curse/Moonlight/Payback/Leftovers Umbreon?

Lost count of how often the fucker has knocked me out.

>>31009915
Umbreon gives me fucking Aneurysms every time I see one
I'm already having fucking PTSD from the many times I've had to deal with their bullshit
It's my fault for never bringing any Taunt users

>>31009079
I seriously need a good Taunt user
I'm on the verge of killing somebody if I see one more pokemon that stalls me with Recovery Moves

>>31009997
I haven't used one myself, but I've heard that A-Persian is good.

>>31009079
I got to 26 in super singles and then I got fucking swept by a M-Bedrill.

Does anyone have any replays of the AI being stupid. I want to laugh at them.

Sitting comfortably at 63 win streaks so far, Ash-Greninja doesn't disappoint. Although Mimikyu has been putting in most work. Megamence is really just there in case of Megas, it hasn't done much.

Why are there people who have trouble with battle tree?

>use tapu koko with life orb
>thunderbolt, dazzling gleam, brave bird, grass knot
>kill every fucking thing

There. Was it that hard?

>>31009079
>battle tree is the new vr missions

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>Scizor used Brick Break!
>Enemy Caracosta's weakness policy activates
>Caracosta used Waterfall, Scizor fainted
>Go! Primarina!
>Caracosta used Rock Slide!
>Primarina fainted.

The only way that turtle faggot could've outsped my Primarina is if it was Jolly with 252 Speed. Even then I ran a damage calc and it could not have OHKO'd my Primarina while being Jolly nature. I'm still maximum pissed about this since I was on battle 43.

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I reached fight 38 in Super Singles only to be destroyed by a Mega Zard X

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>On a 15 streak and about to win the battle
>Tentacruel keeps spamming Sludge Wave while my Milotic spams Hydro Pump
>Have just enough health to survive another attack before I Rest
>I get poisoned

>>31009997
TAPU FINI
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F
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A Persian is fine, too

>>31010897
Yes, it could have. Redo the calc.

...I miss levitate gengar. so fucking sick of these damn things disabling my attacks with cursed body.

>>31010835
What nature for Tapu Koko? +spattack or +speed?

>>31011569
his speed is already stupidly high, while his spa is only average. i'd go with a +spa, but that's just me

>>31010835
Will be killed by Wally.

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Post more dumb A.I. moments

>enemy Gardevoir using Z-Imprison against my Garchomp

i was about to lose to a regice until the dumb faggot AI used toxic when i was using sub with megamence

my anus was clenching at that moment, but i got through

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Best combo to abuse Instruct?

>>31011806
Tapu Koko with Discharge

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>enemy Golisopod with Eject Button
>did not even use First Impression on the first turn before being ejected

I had the CPU spam thunder wave on my toxipex which had the ability limber...

>>31011971
CPUs do the same dumb shit when I use a magic bounce Espeon, they never learn.

Just finished breeding/raising up these pokemon and wondering what the ideal items for them would be.

jolly garchomp
timid ninetails
jolly gyarados
modest tapu lele

sorry if its a dumb/scrub question..pretty new

>>31011708
AI loves to use Imprison for some fucking reason

>>31009915
Just faced this exact set earlier actually. I sent in Toxapex and just toxic stalled it out.

Anyone have a nice Bagon, Petilil, Munchlax or Chinchou?

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>Garchomp used Outrage
>Staraptor hangs on with Focus Sash
>Staraptor used Endeavor
>Garchomp down to 1 HP
>Staraptor faints due to Rough Skin

>Try running swords dance Mimikyu
>Goes great
>like 15 turns in everything starts carrying confuse ray

Really wish trade evo items were 16 BP or something less.

best nature for Salamence?

>>31012258
Lonely.

>>31012234
>not running lum berry

>>31012287
really? i was thinking adamant..why lonely?

>>31012330
Because defense is for fags.

>>31012330
probably to give it more power without taking away form speed or special attack in case you need to flamethrower/draco meteor something

>>31010835
God help you if you go up against Anabel with her Mega-Alakazam, Bullet Punch Lucario, and Z-Raikou

>>31012384
>>31012330
I was just taking the piss lol, go Adamant or Jolly or whatever.

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>Wally with Scarfchomp is one of the most dangerous trainers you can face
>Wally with Megachomp is a complete joke

Really makes you remember why no one uses Mega Garchomp.

Running these guys through the shit and they seem to be doing alright so far. Been trying to make a more "counter-cheese" team after getting annihilated post-30 with UB sweepers

>Swords Dance Mimikyu
>SubRoost MegaMence
>Standard Toxapex toxic shitter set

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what's a good set for using mimikyu? and what teammates should I bring?

>>31012569
someone said to consider using z-splash on mimikyu because if you get outsped and taunted, it still goes through

>>31012578
Been using Swords Dance/Play Rough/Shadow Claw/Shadow Sneak with a Lum berry for all the status moves beings thrown around

>>31012591
That could be an option but I'd probably want to trade Sneak for Substitute so I don't get fucked by T-Wave/Confuse Ray

And colress crushes my dreams yet again with that fucking eviolite bird. I've never been a inockoff guy but...I'm seeing the appeal now.

>>31012661
which bird?

>>31012665
Porygon2 presumably

It's a cyber duck.

>>31012683
oh right

>>31012665
Sounds like Porygon2

I remember getting parahaxed by Tri Attack when I fought him

>>31012578
Garchomp always does well in most teams.

Whats a goodass item for a adamant multiscale dragonite to hold?

>>31012846
Lum

>>31012875
why though?

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>lead with Hydreigon in singles
>literally half of the times are mono ice
And yes, I actually mean LITERALLY
All the game is doing is making my Skarmory stall more painful for the both of us

At the very least, I'm thankful the AI hasn't thought to use mono fairy instead

>>31012477
I so desperately wish I could see if it was Jolly Scarfchomp or Megachomp before it takes any action
The former is a genuine rapemachine, and the latter gets 1-shot by me
It's almost sad

Need opinions and ideas.

I need a quicker way to reset evs other than waiting 48 hours for some stupid fucking berries to grow and then having to do it again to fully reset evs. Is the fucking QR team thing running yet, or is there a tool yet to create QR codes for that?

Also, I need opinions on the best moves for a Golisopod, Kartana, Mimikyu team. I need something to replace Struggle Bug for Golisopod, and best possible physical moves for Kartana (and possibly a better ev spread). I've gotten farther than I've used to with this team (a streak of 5 on normal, boy oh boy), but I think i still need these fucking ev's. It's just such a bitch getting them up to level 50 while also ensuring they don't fuck up the EVs.

>>31012984
>ever even running Struggle Bug Golisopod
Jesus, dude
First Impression, and then some combo of AquaJet/SuckerPunch/Liquidation/LeechLife
Ass Vest is the most common hold item

>>31012922
>turn on my game to start playing some more
>first match is another fucking mono ice
I don't ever want to hear lies that the AI doesn't counterpick teams

>>31012917
So you don't get shat on by Twave, which is probably what the AI will throw at you in spades. Prevents the pain of being immobilized 3 times in a row while the opponent sets up double teams

>>31013015
why do you think i said i wanted to get rid of Struggle Bug

also should i still go for First Impression even if it's not very effective?

and i always seem to get fucked whenever i use sucker punch because that's always the turn when they stop attacking to use a status move

>>31013161
That's an accepted fact at this point.

I think the current debate now is whether or not the AI reads your inputs before a turn.

>>31013204
>>31013204
What? No. How is that a question.
Go for the best move.

Do not run Sucker Punch. Run Aqua Jet.
A decent Golio set is

First Impression
Liquidate
Shadow Claw
Aqua

Shadow Claw so you don't get shat on by Jellicent and it's just good coverage.

>>31013300
So, about Aqua Jet, I don't think the Golisopod I have ever got it as an egg move. Is there a backup for that so I don't need to grind to level 50 again?

Need a good moveset for Mimikyu. Right now I have:

Shadow Sneak (for priority)
Shadow Claw (might replace)
Swords Dance (for the free setup turn)
Play Rough (high-power fairy move for coverage)

Also, what item should I give it?

for Arcanine:

do i go for jolly or adamant? also what item?

I just lost to Red and Blue in Super Multi for the first time and I think I'm going to cry myself to sleep until Christmas morning

>>31013442
That's good, give it Lum.

>>31013453
Adamant as they get E-Speed anyways. Life Orb ensures it gets the job done.

>>31013442
Swap out Shadow Claw for Leech Life and give it a Life Orb. That little guy rocketed me through Super Singles as my lead

>>31013442
Ghostium Z works alright for me.

>>31013493
I've already got the Life Orb on my Golisopod and I cannot yet afford another from the BP store... Got a backup?

>>31013507
Lum

>>31013483
alright, and for EV , do i go for ATK and Speed, or maybe what Speed for HP or DEF?

>>31013469
>tfw just beat Red in Normal Singles for the first time
>stalled all 3 of his mons with Skarmory alone
How long will this keep working

>>31013560
Max Atk and HP. If you want, you can run enough speed to outpace something like T-Tar but speed is hardly worth it when you're packing two priority moves.

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Just scouted Wally, is he any good?

whats a good nature for Celesteela?

I got Sun so i'm pretty much only reliant on random GTS for it..damn i didn't know it was exclusive to Moon

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>9KEG-WWWW-WWW3-EKVF

That fatass of a Snorlax lives with ONE FUCKING HP and costs me my whole streak. If I'd hit a little harder, or killed it and preserved my Xurkitree, I would have won, no problem.
The worst part? This was battle 49
On CHRISTMAS

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>Be in Single Battles
>Other 2 Pokemon on opponent side are gone, it's all up to the Staraptor now
>Meanwhile, I still had all 3 of mine (Chandelure, Buzzwole, Mimikyu)
>Buzzwole is in when Staraptor comes out
>Buzzwole gets BTFO with Brave Bird
>Figured it would happen, send in Mimikyu and expect to win with Play Rough
>Staraptor outspeeds, kills it with BB again
>Starting to get worried
>Send in Chandelure, expect to outspeed because Choice Scarf
>Raptor still fucking outspeeds
>Chandelure fucking manages to tank the hit, has like 6 HP left
>Kills it with Flamethrower
Best Pokemon confirmed

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I finished Super Singles a few days ago and I have very little experience in Doubles. What kind of teams do you use for Super Doubles?

>>31014012
Trick Room Teams with Instruct Oranguru are pretty popular. I lead with Oranguru and Mega Slowbro and got my 50 streak with with slightly minimal rng bs.

>>31009079
For the love of all that is sacred someone give me the link to the original picture in OP's post.

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>>31011708

>Enemy Red's Lapras used rest!
>Lapras uses z-sleep talk
>sleep talk selects rest

>>31013517
Lost my 5 win streak thanks to Jolteon. OHKO my Golisopod with thunderbolt, swaggered my koko into crippling it, the aerodactyl finished it with rock slide, Kartana takes out aerodactyl and is left with only air slash against lucario, instantly outsped and BTFO with Aura Sphere.

Fuck my life, is there something I'm not getting?

>>31014207
dont use air slash on kartana

use sacred sword

>>31013300
>Liquidate over leech life
"do not run sucker punch"

have you even played with goli?

>>31014292
k. should i also switch out x scissor for something else?

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>Breed a Mimikyu to see what the Red Card/Sword Dance meme fuss is all about
>She solo'd 9/10 of the last battles

>>31014371
what moves are you running on it

>>31014432
Leaf Blade
X-Scissor
Smart Strike
Sacred Sword

should i replace muscle band with something else, as well? keep in mind i cant use life orb as my koko is currently using that

>>31014453
seems ok, since you have golisopod for priority

keep in mind that sacred sword does not receive extra damage for beast boost. it's best used when unboosted or for cracking through stockpile/curse walls. i might recommend focus sash, just because i like having that on one mon

>>31014524
nigga what? sacred sword does get affected by beast boost. It's not affected by the TARGET'S stat changes.

>>31014453
i might swap x-scissor for night slash or psycho cut for better coverage, since golisopod should have plenty of bug moves

>>31014548
well then i'm just retarded

>>31009915
I had a run of bad luck with it once. Hurt myself in confusion 4 times in a row, giving him ample time to curse.

I just got swept by a Kommo-o that set up using shell smash

Since when does it learn that?? I just lost a 72 streak

>Finally get to a cool NPC like Colress
>They use their two worst possible Pokemon first

I just want good multibattle partners, fuck

>neutral crits are oneshotting everything
>or flinchhax out the ass
>moves that are not effective do huge amount of damage

>spend the whoole day breeding mons , ev training them only to get shat on

Im at my wits end with this bullshit. I just want the ribbon but this shit isnt worth it.

>>31014805
It doesn't. It is literally cheating.

adamant for metagross? What stats should i focus for EVs, HP and ATK?

>>31014805
Its likely a sign of things to come.

Currently sitting at an 80 win streak. Plowing through with Tapu Koko, Celesteela, and Mega Salamence. Taking a break before I plunge back in. Wish me luck anons.

what are some good sets for Gyarados?

>>31015386
thinking of seeing how smart the ai is vs mimikyu + zconversion pory, last slot maybe just scarfchomp but mostly been just busy breeding, haven't tried super singles past getting bitchslapped in 6 the first run

>>31015054
Jolly man, if its speed tier is 100 or above you always want to go jolly

>decide on a whim to kill an Accelgor with Flamethrower when Draco Meteor kills
>it used Me First that turn
Dodged a fucking bullet

Tapu koko Really is the best lead for an ez 50 win streak

Thinking of going again but I want to replace my Scizor. Have a koko and Garchomp atn

I hate Rotom with a fucking passion. He shows up all the god damned time.

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Super Singles, Been doing ok with this team so far. Need some r8 h8 and masturb8

Minior @ herb
252 HP 252 Attack 4 Speed
Shell Smash
Acrobatics
Rock slide
Earthquake

Golisipod @ Assault Vest
252 HP 252 Attack 4 Defence
!
Leech Life
Sucker Punch
Aqua Jet

Clefable(Unaware) @ leftovers
252 HP 252 Attack 4 Speed
Calm Mind
Moonlight(ppmax)
Flamethrower
Moonblast

Had some close calls, but ultimately doing very well. Where am I weak?

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>>31009079
>Turtonator uses Shell Smash once and outspeeds my Perfect IV Jolly 252 EV Spd Mega Lucario

Fucking forever mad

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>fighting Plumeria in Super Singles
>my second dies to Lorb as I KO her second
>she sends out Toxapex with Bunker/Surf/IceBeam/Venoshock
>my last is Skarmory with Toxic/Protect/Roost/SteelWIng
>mfw I stall her out for 50 turns until she struggles to death
Go frozen for a few turns and panicked, but it worked out

>>31011846
Megachomp with EQ after SD maybe, give the monkey a balloon so it doesnt die?

>>31016181
The Guru has Telepathy so spread attacks are all good in its book. Mega Garchomp with Earthquake sounds like a pretty good combination as well but every turn counts. Tapu Koko can fire off powerful Discharges immediately and it's all boosted by Electric Terrain.

You have not reached the zenith of pain just yet;
>Decide to not look up any teams online
>Breed for perfect IVs and natures, painfully train a fuck ton of pokemon in EV spreads
>Eventually find a combo that works
>One of the pokemon do not pull their weight
>Lose around the 40s

This went on for 20 hours of game time.
I gave up and decide to just pick the best team I could find online and try
>Still losing the moment I reach the 40's

I feel like I'm the worst pokemon player. Which is fucking weird because I conquered the super singles Battle Maison without a problem.

Fuck, January can't come soon enough.

>face off against a Vaporeon
>it lowers my Sp Def with Shadow Ball on the first turn
>fine, whatever, that can happen
>it activates Quick Claw and gets a Crit the next turn

It's not like it hurt too much but fuck, getting the SpD drop, Quick Claw, AND Crit all within a short time frame? Is this fucking allowed?

>>31017051
I'm literally losing to Quick Claw Drampa from that Kalos slut right now
Fucker 1 shot my two sweepers thanks to fucking procs on that trash

I'm trying to stall it out right now

Got to around #30 and bookmarked my progress. This was my team:

Porygon-Z @ Normalium Z
Timid max speed max spatk
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Conversion

Celesteela @ Leftovers
Sassy max spdef max hp
Heavy Slam
Leech Seed
Protect
Flamethrower

Tapu Lele @ Choice Scarf
Timid max speed max spatk
Psychic
Moonblast
Shadow Ball
HP Fire

How should I improve it?

>tfw STILL haven't won a single battle in the Battle Tree yet
Will Naive Pheromosa with Life Orb and right IVs carry me? What Pokemon go well with her in Singles?

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just beat 50 with Kartana, Lele, and Megamence

Kartana solo'd most of it

Fuck you Pelliper. It's Christmas Fucking Day, you don't need to outspeed and kill my Garchomp, you motherfucker. You don't need to confuse and kill my Sylvally, and you really didn't need to die and let Rotom fondle my sweet little Pyukumuku.

I am mad.

>>31017266
Moveset?

>>31017404
jolly with life orb
252atk, 252speed, 4hp
leaf blade, smart strike, sacred sword, swords dance

swords dance could be replaced with x-scissor for psychic types, beast boost gives you enough boosts

>super doubles
>pretty breezy until #41
>mega latios and raikou lead out the gate
>bullshit shell smash kommo-o in reserve
>epic battle that I barely win
>couldn't save video because of the illegal tard-dragon
>next battle lose to a flygon and a hippowdon
just kill me

what moveset and ev spread are people using for megamence?

I'm gonna run Celesteela when I start. What's a good nature for it?

Never used Toxapex before, whats a good nature/moveset/item for it?

What should I run alongside Garchomp and PoryZ? Guessing something Steel, not sure what would be the best choice.

Anybody got any recs for multibattle? Ive been using fake out+nuzzle assvest togedemaru and sd lum mimikyu but just cant get past 15 battles and i feel the need to switch things up

>>31017809
I'm using jolly 252atk/252speed/4spdef
>Dragon Claw
>Return (I try to avoid recoil moves if possible)
>EQ
>DD
If I manage to get a DD everything, aside from super bulky mons or NVE moves, sort of dies

are you penalized for taking a break?

>>31010426
RP6G-WWWW-WWW3-5J9Q

>aurorus 2 good

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>team up with some Veteran who has Uxie and Azelf
>half the enemy teams lead with 2 ghost types

What's a good EV spread and moveset for Celesteela? I'm using it for Multis with Wally as my partner, I have Tapu Koko and this is the best teammate for it that can take out fairies and survive Cynthia's Scarfed Garchomp's EQ

>>31013762
Always depends on which Pokemon he used. It's possible to get him with some really stupid mega altaria build that does nothing but try to buff itself for way too many turns and then attack with Giga Impact.

Will get himself killed half the time with that,

as annoying as losing a big streak is, it motivates me to breed and train more mons to increase my stable and selection, which means whenever i battle i'll have plenty to choose from

plus it's nice to commiserate with you all

merry treemas

>>31017929
Seconding this, would also like to try Toxapex out. Is Regenerator a must have or can I just roll with Merciless?

>>31018635
>>31017929
regenerator is amazing, it lets you use toxapex as a switch-in tank, then you can swap it out to heal it if needed. its special attack is pretty low, so merciless crits aren't going to be very good.

you want either calm or bold, with scald, toxic, recover, and the last one is up to you (haze for stat reset, protect/baneful bunker for stalling, ice beam for dragons)

black sludge is important for recovery, but leftovers will do in a pinch

>>31018664
does the AI even use trick? or why's black sludge so important

>The opposing Dugtrio used Fissure!
>It's a one-hit KO!

There goes my 41-win streak. Dugtrio was in the red, and Tapu Koko was my last mon. It would've been able to survive an Earthquake since Aurora Veil was up, but this kind of pisses me off.

You can do something against flinchhax and evasion, but there's really very little you can do against this 100% OHKO rate. This thing might keep my attention for longer if this kind of thing wouldn't show up.

>>31019103
It's rare, but the AI does use trick sometimes. Black sludge also allows you to use leftovers on something else.

>>31019103
I've never seen the AI use trick but I have seen it use steal. Ambipom will use fake out, make you flinch, use fling with its king's rock, make you flinch again, then use thief to steal your item. It's a really annoying set, but it's always funny when it steals the black sludge.

>>31019124
>>31019139
alright thanks
now i just need a regenerator mareanie

>>31019187
oh wait, what EVs?

I've been trying to beat with Specs Ash-Greninja, A-Marowak and Mimikyu. Just lost to a Rotom-Mow.

Everytime I keep using them I learn more about what I can and cannot do against the AI, but desu I'm tired of this, because the tree pulls something out to counter you anyways. If I don't beat until tomorrow I'm just going to wait bank and import broken stuff from gen 6.

>>31011300
What set do you recommend on Fini? I'm still unsure if Haze is worth a slot for Tree.

>>31015021
If you want to fight the cheese you have to use the cheese yourself

>>31014172
http://chillysundance.deviantart.com/art/Mission8page13-367039434

>>31012661
nigga what? knock off is only second to scald which is the best move in the game, what is wrong with you

>>31019515
>>31012661
Who are the good Knock-off users?

>>31018664
Black sludge poisons the Pokemon retard

I continued from my 60 win streak today and things were going smoothly until:

>Greninja flinches M-Salamence
>Revenge Kill it with LO Koko
>Crobat wins the speed tie and crits with cross poison
>Mimikyu has to setup and get hit by a brave bird so I can KO and hopefully outspeed the last pokemon
>it's M-Aerodactyl

Is M-Aerodactyl better than M-Salamence for Super singles? Obviously M-Salamence is stronger but I feel like speed is necessary and M-Aerodactyl has better physical coverage even if its STABs are shit

what's a good set to run with Jolly scarfchomp?

>>31019535
uh anything that learns it? getting rid of items can entirely change the course of the battle, it cripples the team

>>31019555
you could also maybe use Pheromosa for revenge speed killing, but you'd need another mon for switch-ins because she usually can't tank anything at all.

>>31019592
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire fang
Poison jab/Iron head

>>31019553
what the fuck?

>>31019553
read what it does.

Battle Tree noob here, I've only managed an 18 win streak with my in-game team (Wide Lens Scald Sing Moonblast Hydro Pump Primarina, Fightium Z Dragon Dance Sky Uppercut Dragon Claw EQ Kommo-o, Sash Accelerock Rock Slide Stone Edge Crunch Lyanroc). I can't believe that cancerous Gengar bled over from the Battle Maison. That Sash Gear with Hypnosis Dream Eater Shadow Ball and Sludge Wave. Some punk chick was my 19th opponent hit 3 for 3 with Hypnosis and just wiped me out.

Plus the fucker has like perfect 31 speed IVs plus Timid nature and max speed EVs. Lycanroc doesn't even outspeed it because it's a play through mon.

>>31017051
I went up against that Vaporeon 4 times and every single time it procced it's quick claw on the first turn to put my Kartana in the red.

I actually had to look up the quick claw mechanics just to confirm that it was still a random chance

>>31019231

Taunt/Calm Mind/ Surf (or Scald)/MoonBlast

Or

Taunt/Scald/Nature's Madness/Moonblast

248 HP / 48 Def / 16 SpA / 196 w/ Timid if you want to deal with some speed creep while having some bulk or if you want more staying power, run Bold/Calm with 248 HP / 192 Def / 16 SpD / 52 Spe.

Haze isn't the worst option if you need her to switch in on something that can setup really quickly and tank a hit while canceling their boost

>>31017809
I run Substitute/Roost/Return/Dragon Dance with 160 HP/92 Atk/88 SpD/168 Speed

Pairs well with Kartana who can Sacred Sword the eventual Probopasses and Aggrons straight to hell

>>31017945
Aegislash, Kartana, or Celesteela

>>31018005
Not at all. It even allows you to change up your team when you return

>>31017809
Naive @ 252 speed 252 atk 4 sp att
Flamethrower+Eq for Steel types, fire blast is unnecessary unless you can compensate for a miss.
Thrash+Draco Meteor for max damage output, especially since they'll start throwing dragons at you eventually
A DD set would be cool too though since intimidate gives you more set up opportunities

>>31019535
CB Krook can one-shot with most knock-offs

>>31019120
I run Skarmory over Celememea for Sturdy
Also because he's cooler but still

>>31018664
EV spread?

Anyone have any teams that run into Anabel a lot?

>>31019957
Would you recommend Moxie or Intimidate then?
I was thinking either Krook or A Muk for my new singles team

I need to mix it up so the AI stops sending shit that hard-counters me over and over

>>31019645
>>31019649
Black Sludge poisons the pokemon if it's not poison type.
My point stands.

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>>31020170
>That name
>That post

>>31020135
Either works pretty well. If you're going to be switching a lot then run intimidate, otherwise Moxie can turn CB K Rool into a slaughterhouse

Are neutral natures fine for the battle tree? i have a quirky tapu koko

>>31020170
It doesn't.

>>31020386
they're Ok for under 50 but when you get to around 40+ you're going to wish you had the right nature so you could outspeed or one shot certain things

>>31020386

No, you need to go full competitive to get anywhere in supers.

what do you think of this team
m-salamence
adamant, max atk/speed
d dance
d claw
double edge
equake

mimikyu w/ focus sash
jolly, max atk/speed
sword dance
s claw
s sneak
play rough

starmie w/ life orb
timid, max sp.atk/speed
t bolt
ice beam
surf
dazzling gleam

used to use a garchomp but i think leading with salamence instead of mimikyu might be better, i dunno maybe i should replace mimikyu

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I just got off my game to come post my anger in here. I just got to battle 49 in super singles and had an unfeazant avoid thunderbolt three fucking times in a row. I would have obviously won, it was against my Tapu Koko but noooo 3 fucking evasions for literally no good reason. It wasn't even using bright powder?

Fucking cucked out of my 50 streak by a motherfucking unfeazant, that's low.

Anyway my team:
Nihilego
Timid @ Focus Sash
Power Gem
Thunderbolt
HP ice
Sludge Wave

No stealth rocks because honestly I've found they have little impact.

Buzzwole
Adamant @ leftovers
252 HP, 4 ATK, 252 SPDEF,
Power Up Punch (fucking amazing shit)
Poison Jab
Leech Life
Rock Throw

Tapu Koko
Timid @ Expert Belt
Thunderbolt
Grass Knot
Dazzling Gleam
Natures Maddness

I put in natures madness because it's either that or weak HP ice that Nihilego's already got going for it. Good for cutting down bulky opponents before KO too. I suppose toxic can be pretty useful in that slot too.

I honestly only use Koko to stop the fucking hypnosis/snore/thunder wave bullshit - especially when that thunderwave belongs to togekiss which has been the biggest threat I have found in the entire 2044930293 battles I've had in there.

>>31020994
*Yawn, not snore.

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>>31020994
>Rock Throw
Also Buzzwole should have an Assault Vest to help him sponge up special hits.

>>31020457
you lead with mimikyu and you run life orb with it
so maybe you'll just replace it?

>>31019247
THANK YOU SO MUCH

Which ability for Starmie? Is Analytic worth autismoing for?

>>31021255
Analytic is pretty mediocre against AI since Starmie is already pretty fast and the only way you're getting the damage boost is if the opponent switches out which doesn't happen a lot. The Tree likes to use status against you so I think Natural Cure would be better for an offensive set

>>31017266
Moveset on Lele? Also, Jolly mance or adamant?

Is Kartana/Greninja/Megamence a good team for singles?

>>31021203
I agree with the laughable rock throw, it's more of a tester I was using and it ended up working really well. I will probably swap back to earthquake tho.

I was using assault vest and he just did so much worse, maybe it was the specific opponents but leftovers has been working out so much better because I usually switch in on something physical or bulky (garchomp, lucario, scizor, avalugg, tauros, blissey) and rampage with power up punch. Assault vest does absolutely nothing here, and after PUPing leech life carries through the damage of specials.

Honestly, there are more bulky/physical threats in battle tree than there are special, or at least the special threats are dealt with already by Nihilego or Koko.

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>Enemy Magmortar's Quick Claw let it move first
>Enemy Magmortar used Confuse Ray!

>>31019194
HP and the defensive stat of your choice, or even a split

go to wifi general, people often have breedject regenerator mareanies

>>31020035
HP, defense or special defense or a double defense split

>>31021568
this is why i ran a mega sableye lead or a while; you get to knock off the enemy's item and bounce back their stupid status moves on round 1

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>lose 49 streak after 5th try due to opponents quick claw activating 4 times in a row when I was about to win

Tell you what, fuck this.
Gonna wait till pokebank and cheese my way through.

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>cheese the battle tree all the way to 50
>swap out team for pokemon that i actually like
>i get cheesed with a sashed entrainment durant
I don't know what to feel.

>>31021709
You have to cheese or get cheesed when it comes to the Super Battle tree. No point in trying to play with your favorites or try out strategies, you won't fight against someone in battlespot who can flinchhax or quickclaw you to death.

I've yet to face anything that hard counters my team:

Ninetales-Alola w/Light Clay+Snow Warning

Aurora Veil
Blizzard
Freeze-Dry
Moonblast

Mudsdale w/Ground-Z

Earthquake
Rock Tomb
Heavy Slam
Counter

Tapu Koko w/Electric Seed and maxed ATK

Wild Charge
Brave Bird
U-Turn
Roost


At worst I've met bulky recovery users that I can't overpower, but I can PP stall them to death thanks to Aurora Veil and Roost. For very strong and fast sweepers, Mudsdale can usually either Counter them to death or reduce their speed with Rock Tomb so I can revenge kill them.

i'm thinking of memeing it up with an eevee evoboost team for doubles

Open with Eevee + eviolite Clefairy, baton pass to Celesteela or M-Garchomp then sweep. What do people normally BP all these stats to?

Tapu Koko @ life orb
Naive
4 Att / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

- Thunderbolt
- Dazzling Gleam
- Grass Knot
- U-turn

Garchomp @ garchompite
- Jolly Nature
-4 Hp / 252 att / 252 spe
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Poison Jab
- Swords Dance

Greninja @ Waterium Z
- Timid nature
4 hp / 252 spa / 252 spe
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Taunt

Thank me later

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>>31022297
>using Megachomp instead of regular Garchomp

>>31021658

I used to fear 49 for its Veterans but if you roll one of those it will just be Raikou or Cobalion spamming attack moves instead of pulling out some arcane bullshit invented by satan himself.

Also I think every single loss I have incurred in Battle Tree has been to stallers with Curse or Leech Seed, using Rest or Sub so I can't even Toxic their shit, often something like 4x parahax on my sweepers and then when i have one fresh pokemon left they spring that shit on you and your typical counters are gone.

>>31022398
>muh speed

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>swap in Tapu Fini against Rotom Oven
>keeps using confuse ray even though it can never work

>>31022297
Is it worth it not having Water Shuriken on Greninja?

And out of curiosity, what HP should I get on mine when I pick it up?

>>31022846

Jobber frog has fixed I.V's. It should always have HP Ghost if I remember them correctly.

>>31022297
Would literally get raped by Anabel

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>ost against Dexio and his trashy team because I forgot to Mega evolve when attacking with Salamence

Mmk made it to doubles 39...time to stop for a moment to prepare.
The though of colress or anabelle appearing next has scared me to the point of making a seprate team just to counter their bullshit...

does the AI actually prepare hardcounters for you or is it just confirmation bias

>>31023300
Its more like a combination of soft/moderate counters mixed in with status/quick claw/evasion BS

Is tsareena decent in doubles? What would be good teammates for it?

>>31022297

>hydropump
>in the tree
>over scald

Are you daft?

Got a 46 win streak with the following:

Topo Koko @ focus sash
Timid
Thunderbolt
U-turn
Dazzling gleam
Grass Knot/taunt

Garchomp @ Choiceband
EQ
Outrage
P Jab
Stone Edge

Golisipod @ Leftovers
First Impression
Liquidation
Aqua jet
Leech Life

Lost to:

Mamamoswine
M-Gardivor
Togekiss

So yea, the AI fucking counter picks hard once you get past 40

I'm going to get that fucking battle pose

>>31023340
she's okay, it's just that the only real reason you'd use her is for waifufaggotry. She just can't justify her 72 speed with her moderately-low bulk.

It's a shame because trop kick is a cool signature move.

>Fight Cynthia with her using Mega Lucario in slot 2 prime for scouting.
>Her scarf Chomp in slot 3 sweeps me so I can't scout her.

Fug, I hope to run into her with Scarf chomp as the lead and Mega Lucario in slot 2. Anyone find that to be a handy multo combo?

Just lost at 29. I'm using

>xurkitree (air balloon)
>kartana (lum berry)
>nihilego (choice scarf)

Had to put choice scarf on nihilego because hypnosis gengar always ended my streak without it. Id like to replace nihilego with something else, perhaps tapu lele

However my team was doing quite well up to 29. I lost against a bright powder lapras, nothing I could have done since none of my moves wanted to hit

>>31023611
you're probably better off having at least one mon that can tank a hit or two for swapping in so you don't need to run air balloon on Xurk.

Has anyone mapped out the enemy I.V scaling and does it still apply those I.V's when you use a scouted partner?

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Finally got my Super Doubles Stamp after weeks of not even making it past a streak of 30.

Now the only Battle Tree Stamp left is Multis. Who's a good partner?

>>31023693
Depends on your own mons.

People like having Colress though. He can have some good mons, like Porygon-Z and Megagross. Many random trainers in higher ranks of super singles also have teams full with legendaries.

>>31023693
Post team, anon.

>>31023693

Post team

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>>31023518
I currently don't have much in SM and I can't inject either so currently I'm just fucking around with the few Pokemon that I have and experimenting with new strategies. Gonna have to wait for Pokebank to get my old Maison bros maybe break my old streaks there (~160 victories in Singles, ~240 victories in Doubles).

Anyway, I want to talk a bit about Tapu Koko, because that thing is a monster. If you want to get quick Battle Points, try out this set:

Tapu Koko @ Choice Specs
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Dazzling Gleam
- Grass Knot
- Volt Switch

Even with a mediocre team that has horrible synergy, I can reliably get to 40+ just with the raw power of Tapu Koko alone. This boy outspeeds almost the entire game and its Thunderbolt flat out OHKOs many offensive Pokemon with mediocre bulk and 2HKOs literally anything bulkier that takes neutral damage from it. Just like how M-Kangaskhan was the go-to Pokemon in Gen VI for quick and easy Battle Points, I think Tapu Koko does the same thing in Gen VII. Now I'm just trying to think of a proper team to support this guy.

Tapu Koko's main problems are Ground-types, opposing Electric-types, bulky Grass-types and Steel-types, so I was thinking that Ferrothorn would be a great teammate for it. Another good partner would be Landorus-T with Flyinium Z, but I have to wait for Pokebank to get these Mons into SM. What would be good third Pokemon for these teams? (Koko/Ferrothorn/???, Koko/Landorus/???)

>>31023680
What else would you put on xurk? A choice item seems too limiting on it imo.

Maybe I could replace nihilego with a bulky water? I have a 5iv gyarados I could try

>>31023803
Whoops, didn't mean to reply to anyone. I don't know why I did that.

>>31021299
Timid scarf Lele with Psychic, moonblast, shadow ball, Focus blast

Jolly Mence

Gotta go fast anon

>>31023728
>>31023731
Kartana @ Focus Sash
Hardy
Beast Boost
-Leaf Blade
-X-Scissor
-Smart Strike
-Sacred Sword

Pelipper @ Wise Glasses
Modest
Drizzle
-Soak
-Blizzard
-Hydro Pump
-Hurricane

Garchomp @ Groundium Z
Jolly
Sand Veil
-Poison Jab
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Iron Head

Salamence @ Salamencite
Jolly
Intimidate > Aerilate
-Dragon Claw
-Return
-Brick Break
-Earthquake

That was my team for Doubles. Now dicking around in Multis with Grimsley(Liepard@Red Card+Sharpedo@Sharpedite). Just randomly picked Kartana and Garchomp, not expecting to get very far right now.

>>31023857
I've seen a few anons using adamant mance instead of jolly. Is it team dependent or jolly the overall best choice?

>>31023887
You could run adamant but in situations where it's a both will die in one hit scenario I wanna be the one to hit first

>>31012922
I'm curious, what kind of set are you running on that Hydreigon? I've been using it a lot in both singles and doubles as a timid life orb attacker also carrying roost.

>>31023873
I can't believe you got 50 victories with that team. Kartana with neutral nature, Pelipper with a bunch of horribly inaccurate moves, practically nothing to benefit from the rain other than Pelipper itself, and finally two Pokemon with a double weakness to Ice but no switch-ins for said type. Sure, you made it to 50, but the team isn't very good and I'm sure you realize that.

>>31023300

I think for nearly every battle from 40+ onwards the AI would lead with a Rock or Ice type against my Salamence. Nearly every single lead they used could survive its Double Edge, or hit it for SE.

I saw Glalie about 4 times in a span of 7 games.

Also you know Veterans and Youngsters? They use pretty much all sub-legendaries in the game - of course, you'd be forgiven for not knowing this because apparently all they ever use is Regice, Cobalion, M-Latios. This seemingly random assortment of legendaries either resist or hit dragons for SE damage, it's a really interesting coincidence.

People always meme about busted RNG and confirmation bias, because simply put they are armchair theorising and don't actually play Battle Tree enough to understand that being paralysed 8 times in a row is not a very common situation.

But the "team is designed to counter yours" thing absolutely happens, you will never even SEE 33% of the available Battle Tree pokemon if they are countered by your team.

>>31023953
Yeah, I know its total shit but somehow this team has given me the most success. I've even literally copypasted other successful teams, but always got fucked over somehow. Also, I was one of those retards who caught all the UBs befor realizing I could've gotten Abras and Synchronized for decent Natures. Believe it or not, that was the best Kartana of the 4.

Basically what tends to happen with my current team is this:

Kartana and Pelipper lead, Drizzle activates and weakens Fire attacks while boosting Hydro Pump and making sure Hurricane never misses. I fully invested in Pelipper's HP and went half/half with the remainder on Def/SpDef. Focus Sash works as a fallback measure in case Kartana would've gotten OHKO'd anyway (unlikely from most Physical Attacks). Pelipper actually hits pretty hard and tends to stay on the field a good while. Rock types weren't too much of a threat with Kartana there and the general low-accuracy of Rock-type moves. The Electric-types I encountered would easily be cleaned up by Garchomp.

Blizzard is there in case an opponent changes the weather to Hail. Rarely used it, but it worked when it needed to somehow. Soak would be there if the opponent sends something bulky that Hydro Pump or Hurricane couldn't do much against as Kartana's Leaf Blade would then be super effective. Kartana normally takes out at least 3 mons before it goes down too. Sometimes I go full matches without losing either lead.

Most Ice-types I encountered were leads as a result of the CPU's response to Garchomp and Salamence being on the field at the same time in the previous match so they're easy pickings for Kartana.

Mega Salamence there to deal with other megas and Garchomp's Z-Move helps me take out hard-to-kill stuff without endangering my Kartana should those two end up on the field at the same time.

>get 5 kills in Battle Royale even though it used all my pokemon because the AI collectively refuses to do anything but protect or target me
>I "lost" but the guy with 2 kills and one pokemon wins

So Battle Royale is a mode where being a passive bitch wins even though you have less kills and more deaths than other players?

Did Gamefreak actually think this mode through?
Did Justin Trudeau design this mode?

I mean it completely fails the first test of any children's game - being intuitive. I predicted protects and exploited windows as much as I could but it didn't matter because the sheer act of doing anything makes you the loser.

Just spam protect and steal kills to win, the biggest coward wins and whoever breaks the ice and actually does anything gets buttfucked. Rewards bad play, punishes aggression, doesn't make any sense and is boring as fuck.

How is something this fucking terrible a finished, released mode?

>>31024369
I'm assuming you don't have PKHeX because you would have used it already, but if you're not against injecting I suggest that you find one of those injecting threads and ask for a proper Kartana. Those threads are regularly visited by a couple of injectors who give Pokemon for free to people who provide them with QR codes for generating them. That's how I got two of my three Tapus too. I think injecting legendaries is perfectly fine since trying to get perfect legit ones is very difficult and time consuming and you're going to be battling perfect legendaries in the Battle Tree anyway.

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Holy fug the AI can't deal with Tapu Fini's field effect at all.

>enemy sends in Rotom Wash against my Megamence
>none of my moves could kill in one hit
>switch out to Fini
>Wash uses Confuse Ray
>It fails because field
>swap out for Smogonsword
>Wash uses Confuse Ray
>It fails because field
>kill it with shadow balls while he keeps using confuse ray

What the fuck, they removed ALL the mega stones I use in SM?! Are they coming back or are they gonna gradually give them out?

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>>31024474
What shitty Megas do you use if none of them are in the game?
>mfw all the Megas that I actively use (Charizard Y, Venusaur, Kangaskhan, Salamence and Metagross) are all in the game

>>31024474

Gotta buy the follow up game to use them in gen 7.

>>31020994
Finally got a streak of 50, it took a bit of trial and error but got it.

I decided to go with Tapunium Z on Koko because occasionally he wouldn't quite pump out enough damage on a few things. It worked incredibly well. I also swapped Rock Throw for Earthquake on Buzzwole. DESU EQ was a very minor change, it helped boost damage a bit but overall it was Koko's change that made it all possible.

>>31024569
Forgot to also mention that on this run I encountered a quick claw explosion bronzong that nearly fucked me over. What are the chances that quick claw just happens to fucking work when they decide to use explosion after 5 turns (with at least 2 procs in those 5 already?).

>>31024513
Lopunny, Medicham and Altaria.

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>>31024587
Well, sucks to be you I guess.

>>31024602
Are they gonna patch them in, in January? Who am I kiddibg, of course they won't

>>31024623
You just have to buy the third version :^)

>>31024651
ON SWITCH :=)

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>>31024674
I see this as legitimate scenario in the future. There are not many companies that hate their fans as much as Game Freak does.

>>31024728
Them removing DexNav was when I realized they hated us for real.

I finally managed to beat super doubles swapping these two teams:
Megaluke, Nihilego (Rockinium Z), Celesteela (Sitrus berry), Tapu lele (Scarf)

Incineroar(Incinium Z), Trevenant (Lum berry), Primarina (Life orb), Oranguru (Mental herb)

Blue was a ride in the park but shout out to battle 41 - 45

>only veterans with mostly genies
>3 damn Lead Latias in a row (2 megas)
>2 Virizions, fucking wake me up.

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>>31024760
>Finally get into competitive playing because of the improved breeding and EV training mechanics in Gen VI
>ORAS makes training even easier by allowing you to use Sweet Scent in rain and giving us Blissey bases
>Good times

>SM comes out
>mfw horde training is gone
>mfw Blissey bases are gone
>mfw DexNav is gone
>mfw multiple Mega Stones are gone
>mfw no Move Tutors (I know this happens every time but it shouldn't)
>mfw PSS is gone and you have to go to Festival Plaza and reconnect to internet every single time you want to trade or battle
Can't wait to see what they remove in the next main games.

Are baton pass team viable on the tree? Like passing belly drum, weakness policy, speed?

>>31024946
I'm sure it can work, but you're fated to run into something that will throw a wrench in your plan, a pokemon throwing status in general, taunters, mons that outspeed you or are generally annoying as fuck (like the scarfed rockslide only aerodactyl), if your team can't handle getting disrupted I say think about a different startegy but if you have enough foresight and all of your members can carry their weight regardless, I say go for it

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>mfw I abused the shit out of mimikyu and got my 50 wins in super singles

Ok real talk does battle tree cheat speed? I just ran up against a torterra and it moved faster than my tapu koko, no quick claw or anything. It used earthquake.

>>31025760
A Choice Scarf Torterra can be faster than a neutral Tapu Koko with imperfect IVs.

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>enemy Mega-Venusaur surviving a Double Edge from Perfect Attack IV/EV Adamant Megamence with about 1 HP

Just fuck off

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>>31026107
Yeah...Your luck couldn't have been worse. Ouch

>Having tough time at the tree
>Decide fuck it and just use Mega Mence, Mimikyu and Tapu Koko.
>Make it to 42 first try
>Start playing like a complete fucking retard and cost myself the match cause I have never fought a Raikou in a competitive setting much less the Battle Tree where you see weird shit like Choice Scarf Torterra all the time.
Not even mad cause it was 100% my own fault but god damn if I'm not discouraged a bit.

Running Mimkyu, Mega Mence, Koko. Mence never had a chance to get off even one EQ and after I panic switched to it after Raikou got off an +2 Calm Mind.

I guess I should drop Roost on Koko for some more coverage. I had it running Dazzling Gleam/Thunder Bolt/Taunt/Roost.

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GGs super doubles. Blue didn't stand a chance.
WD3G-WWWW-WWW3-G5LW

Primaria, Lycanroc night, Salamence, koko

Doubt I'm ever touching multi...or atleast not this year.

>>31025718
I've been thinking of breeding a Mimikyu too. What's the best set? I've been thinking something like this:

Mimikyu @ Life Orb / Lum Berry / Red Card / Focus Sash
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Shadow Claw
- Shadow Sneak
- Swords Dance

What's the best item for it? Is Red Card just a gimmick or does it actually work? Also, I'm not a fan of inaccurate moves (in this case, Play Rough), so are there any viable alternatives? I really wish it learned Brick Break for that perfect Ghost/Fighting coverage. Share your opinions and experiences.

>>31026409
>I had it running Dazzling Gleam/Thunder Bolt/Taunt/Roost
Thunderbolt / Dazzling Gleam / Grass Knot / Volt Switch is the best set in my opinion. If you really hate Grass-types (Tapu Koko has trouble with those) I guess you could run a mixed set with Brave Bird instead of Volt Switch, but it's better to have a teammate that deals with Grass-types.

Are megas banned in battle tree?

>>31026646
No. The opponents use Megas too.

>>31026605
I havent been having any trouble with Grass Types since I use mixed Mega Mence running Fire Miss I was absolutely SICK of Hypnosis+Dream Eater Gengar though so I put Taunt on it so I would never have to see the fucker.

>>31025718
who did you use with mimikyu? Everytime I use Mine it gets fucked over by Status (even with a lum berry) or some stupid shit like play rough missing

>>31015865
What natures anon?

>>31026655
You don't need Taunt for Gengar. Specs Tapu Koko fucking OHKO's Gengar with Thunderbolt.

>>31026605
>>31026679
I used play rough/shadow claw/swords dance/sub with life orb. Honestly, he's got a really bad case of 4MSS. He's not quite fast enough to go without shadow sneak, it's hard to ditch shadow claw when you need it to crack things that resist play rough and substitute is godly to stop status and build up safe swords dances

>>31026725
Yeah but now I never have to see it and I have Taunt for other obvious setups/status spreaders.

Why does the tree have such an obsession with random rotom forms? Those bastards need to all go away and stay away

>>31026646
Nah...and neither are Z-moves

>>31026738
>sub

Interesting, I actually like that.

but without Shadow sneak how do you deal with faster mons like rock slide aerodactyl or Mega Sableeye?

>>31026829
I got lucky, I guess. A lot of the mons I fought on the way to 50 wins were slow as shit.
But I don't see mimikyu beating aero anyway, unless you've already built up some swords dances. And wouldn't sableye die to play rough?

>>31026879
Mines didn't
that last run is why I stopped using mimikyu. Boosed +4 sword dance did fuck all to it, and it proceeded to stall my team out with foul play spamming bullshit.

Maybe I'm just unlucky with this.

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>Doing well enough with Kartana lead, Sub+SD Chomp, and Firium-Z Salazle. Kartana kills most leads and OHKO's with the boosts
>Quick Claw Slowbro solos my team and you know why

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>>31027053

>>31026977
Really? Damn.
Still not sure what to give up though. Substitute fucks up so many pokemon that think they can set up or status you. I honestly don't know what I'd replace with shadow sneak

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>Grimsley's Liepard outspeeding my Megamence

If anyone's done with their team, I can take any leftovers.

>>31027290
...Is your megamence adamant? because liepard would literally be 1 point faster

>>31027316
leftovers as in pokemon or leftovers as in the item?

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>>31027338
It is.

>>31027351
Pokemon.

>>31027440
senpai no one would do that...but since it is christmas I'll hack ONE for you. What do you want

>>31027316
>>31027440
>Implying I wouldn't keep playing the Tree over and over since I can't play online

>>31027455
Nah senpai, it's fine. I realized /wfg/ is more the place for this, anyway. It's been awhile since I've been on /veep/ or 4chan in general desu.

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>There are people on /vp/ RIGHT NOW who can't even get a measly streak of 20 going

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>MFW Multis on classic 3DS

Fuck OFF, I'd rather not have any trainers than have my shit run at 10FPS. They should have put an option to turn that shit off, why should I even care about my trainer standing completely still, only to stiffly point when I use an attack? It adds nothing and looks like shit. God damn.

should I scout all of the major fights like captains and shit? just got to 10 in supers and got the fire trial kang, I can scout him now

also if I have a streak in super singles and I take a break, will the streak be affected if I play doubles or multis before I finish the super playthrough

>>31028458
You don't have to scout the special trainers if you don't want to. Sometimes their first two Pokemon are shit and they're not worth scouting.

The three battle modes are separate and won't ruin any streaks for the others.

>>31028458
Scout people that lead with Megas, those are gonna be the most useful.

>>31012078
Choice Scarf
Clay that boost Aurora Veil forget what it's called
Gyaradosite
Choice Specs

I'm gonna be leading with M-Salamence, and M-Metagross for multis?

Who should be my back-up mon? I was thinking Aegislash, just in case an Ice mon shows up and I don't have 100% faith the Metagross will target it.

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>opponent uses ominous wind 3 times
>twice I miss with a 90% accuracy move
>stat boost procs 3 times
>proceeds to sweep me
Good joke Game Freak! The battle tree is a real test of skill!

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>>31028580
YOU WILL FEAR ME

>>31028520
His lead was Mega Kangaskhan, guess I'll take him

>>31028685
Just hope it doesn't have Scrappy as it's normal ability.

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>scouted cynthia with megaluke lead and a "fuck you" spiritomb set
>on battle 10 of super singles

>>31028756
Why's that

>>31028844
It takes into account it's currently ability when attacking, not it's Mega Ability.

So it'll try and Fake Out Ghost types.

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>>31028580
Battle facilities in a nutshell

>>31028580
I had the exact same thing, 3 procs of Ominous Wind in a row. Can't remember if I missed tho

>>31028886
Well, it sure as hell doesn't have Early Bird. Guy slept through the entire first fight

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just want to share my super-doubles team for you guys who want to go to 50 wins easy. I did it on 1st try:

Lead:
Salamence @ Salamencite
Intimidate
Adamant, 248 HP, 136 Atk, 124 Speed
- Double-Egde
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Roost

Ninetales (Alola) @ Focus Sash
Snow Warning
Timid, 4 HP, 252 SpAtk, 252 Speed
- Blizzard
- Moonblast
- Aurora Veil
- Protect


Backup:

Tapu Bulu @ Leftovers
Grassy Surge
Adamant, 252 HP, 36 Atk, 60 Def, 40 SpD, 20 Speed
- Protect
- Horn Leech
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

Milotic @ Sitrus Berry
Competitive
Bold, 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 SpDef
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Protect

>>31029577
Tapu Bulu @ Leftovers
Grassy Surge
Adamant, 252 HP, 36 Atk, 60 Def, 40 SpD, 20 Speed
?????????

>>31029671
EV spread by Wolfe Glick, wanted to try it in Doubles and ended up also using them in Battle Tree. Does it's job.

When do you fight Anabel? I want to Scout her and fight with her then make sweet love to her.

I'm running Mimikyu, Kartana and Koko right now, but Kartana isn't doing too much
could I swap it to like Toxapex or will I lose too much type coverage? help a newb out

>>31029700
explain it pls. or link wolfe's vid explaining it.

What have people found to be the most reliable setups for 50+ streaks? I can't seem to do better than 20 or so.

It's generally agreed that you can't go wrong with megamence atlease somewhere on your team

>>31030537
I'm at 110 wins using Megamence, Aegislash, Tapu Fini.

>>31030537
Mimikyu & Kartana is almost a staple on these threads.
I got myself a 80 streak with them and salazzle recently, losed because I didn't use shadow sneak on a scarfed eruption typhlosion.
Mimikyu is a fucking beast in the battle tree, give him some status protection and he can sweep teams alone.

>>31030537
I've found hyper-aggressive teams requiring little to no setup go pretty far.

>>31030537
I got to 70 in Singles with Kartana, Ash Greninja and Mega Salamence.

>>31030657
Agreed. Lead Mimikyu guarantees a free Swords Dance (or two if you're a greedy fuck) because of Disguise and STAB moves tear through anything after dancinh

Remember people. Mold breaker can easily screw over mimikyu if you're not paying attention.

>>31023300
I used a lead Kartana for about 30 battles and I repeatedly got matched up against a youngster with Chandelure, Turtonator, and Magmortar

>>31030657
>>31030811
>>31030937
>>31030804

>Kartana
Good, I've got a pretty good one that works pretty well in Singles.

Kartana@Muscle Band
Adamant, 4HP, 252 ATK, 252 Speed
-Leaf Blade
-Night Slash
-Sacred Sword
-Smart Strike

I tend to use a mix of the following alongside it; what would be the best combinations?

Buzzwole@Leftovers
Careful, 252HP, 4def, 252SpDef
-Roost
-Bulk Up
-Lunge
-Poison Jab

And one of the following:

Nihilego@Focus Sash
Timid, 252 SpAtk, 4 HP, 252 Speed
-Power Gem
-Stealth Rock
-Toxic Spikes
-Sludge Wave

Xurkitree@Zap Plate
Modest, 252 Speed, 252 Sp.Atk, 4 Sp.Def
-Tail Glow
-Energy Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Volt Switch

Hydreigon@Dragonium Z
Rash, 252 Sp.Atk, 4 Def, 252 Speed
-Dragon Pulse
-Draco Meteor
-Dark Pulse
-Flash Cannon

Celesteela@Shell Bell (intend to swap for leftovers eventually)
Rash, 252 HP, 252 SpDef, 4 Speed
-Air Slash
-Leech Seed
-Heavy Slam
-Flamethrower

Salamence@Salamencite
Intimidate->Aerialate (sic)
Sassy, 252 Speed, 252 Atk, 4SpAtk
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw
-Scary Face
-Double-Edge

I know, I should breed it to get Dragon Dance on there but I haven't got the chance to do so. Any other good picks that would work well with Kartana? That 4x weakness to Fire is definitely something to be addressed.

>>31024451
I never thought they could make something worse than rotation battles but they went and did it, the absolute madmen

>>31026753
The same reason they ride the genie dick hard after battle 40. Simply to fuck you over at your own game

>>31028279
>This is bullshit why can't I get past normal singles with my adamant Primarina, jolly Vikavolt, and female Goodra ;^(

>>31029892
It's random every 10 battles.

Prepare for her to make sweet love to your asshole if you're not prepared for Mega Lucario or Mega Alakazam though

>>31030537
Kartana is a fantastic sweeper that can pretty much solo at least 75% of Battle Tree team, then for backup you can carry anti-cheese mons like Mimikyu and Mega-Sableye, defensive powerhouses like Aegislash and Celesteela, or other offensive destroyers like Mega Mence and Tapu Koko/Lele

>>31031250
Bold primarina is love
Bold primarina is life

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>Lose to Red and Blue in Super Multi due to last Pokemon getting frozen

I literally could have won if it weren't for that. I could have been freed from this hell.

>>31031028
Anyone? Are these good or should I start breeding uber-Pokemon from the breedable ones?

>>31031028
>muscle belt
Why not Life Orb?
You get a free one, and Kartana's fragile enough for 10% to not matter when being attacked.

>>31031789
Is the boost even that big compared to the muscle band? As far as I can tell, it's a fairly steep downside compared to the risk-free nature of the muscle band. Espeically since it has just enough defense to survive a couple of hits, which means that extra HP does end up counting for something.

>>31031839
Muscle Band is a 10% boost, Life Orb is a 30% boost.
I guess it's up to you to decide if that's substantial enough.

I wonder if there's a way to use the Tree's "counter teams" to your advantage.

When I lead with Pheromosa, I see the same goddamn Froslass every other battle. It's immune to my Focus Blast/Fightinium and resists Bug Buzz and Ice Beam, so I guess the game sees it as a counter when in reality I just Quiver Dance and shit all over it even with resists. The game sends the fucker at me constantly and it's a free QD/Beast Boost every time.

>>31031839
LO lets you OHKO pretty much everything after one Beast Boost, and you'll definitely want to OHKO and skip the bullshit

>>31031932
i'm terrified of scarfchomp so i never let my sweeper out of the house without a focus sash

>>31031932
Yes, but I expect the fire and fighting types to start showing enough to make the HP loss not worth it. Plus, it OHKOs most things just fine without the LO.

More importantly, which of the Pokemon I listed make its best partners?

>>31032100
You'll want something to switch moves that would be SE against Kartana into, so MegaMence would be good.
Kartana and MegaMence are on most people's teams anyway, the third one is practically a free pick of whatever you like.

>>31032100
That's when you switch to your fire/fighting counter. For me that's mega Salamence, who is one of Kartana's best partners besides Lele.

I'm currently using a defensive Sub/Roost/DD set on mine and it shits on almost all of Kartana's counters

Trying to run a competitive team for the first time (with actual IV breeding and EV training). Does this team make the cut or will it be completely wrecked by something?
>Gyarados
>Toxapex
>A. Ninetales
>Magnezone
>Bewear
>Mimikyu

Other options: Tapu Lele, Decidueye, Talonflame, Dragonite, Salamence