Is it good?

protean greninja is better

>>30958495
Yes, as long as you treat it as a late game cleaner not a sweeper like Protean Gren.

Slap specs on it and a boosted Hydro Pump in rain destroys everything.

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>>30958495
Really good, actually. Almost as good as Protean-Greninja but more cool

>>30958629
Specs is fucking trash on this thing, life orb or bust

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>No unique Z-Move

why

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>>30958752
>specs
>trash

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>>30958803
>'Unparalleled Fiery Water Shuriken'
>requires: Water Shuriken
>Z crystal: Greninjashunium Z
>power: 180
>effect: Inflicts damage and has a 30% chance of causing a burn.


>never

WHY

I wonder how they'll give people this thing in later games or if we'll ever be able to breed it. I got a mild natured one and it's shit.

>>30961344
You can delete and instal again the demo to get another one

>>30961288
pretty sure this was just a hydro vortex shuriken

>>30961370
Really? No wonder nobody wanted to trade for mine, they're as easy to get as Eevees

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>>30961379
You really think this looks like a Hydro Vortex?

They build up all that hype for Ash-Greninja and now it doesn't even exist in Ash's rotation so it can never have an awesome comeback like Charizard gets every season. In fact, I don't think Ash has a pokemon he can mega evolve at all.

>>30961616
He literally creates a water vortex to power up the shuriken.

>>30961616
Why did he lose...

>>30961798
Because of BURASTO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNN

>>30958827
Top 10 anime betrayals.

>>30958495
I don't know why people like this thing when Primal Kyogre does the job far better and isn't frail as shit

>>30961841
>betrayal
Was hoping to find Ash in S/M so I can cuck him with his own Ash-Greninja and Blast Burn his last Pokemon.

>>30961867
with the name "Alain".

>>30961857
Battle Tree plus Mega level pokemon without having to use a mega stone, you can even give it Z-Power on top of that.

>>30958495
Meh. Protean Greninja was cooler and more viable. I could care less for the demo freebie inspired by the most stale anime character in the universe.

>>30961498
Well, you can delete your Sun/Moon game to receive another Magearna, right? Is the same thing, delete the demo to get another Greninja

>>30961886
Don't think it works like that. I tried something similar by reloading the demo save before I had transferred the Greninja to the game with JKSave Manager. Didn't work. It's probably the game itself that denies it.

>>30961941
Yeah, the game won't let you have more than one Ash-Greninja even if you trade it away new demos won't give you another one. If you want another one you'll have to restart your game

>>30961745
So? If Dragonite use Iron Tail, its actually using Dragon Tail because its literally attacking using its dragon tail?

BURASTO

>>30961288
Ashgreninjium-Z sounds way more official and better.

>>30964302
>better
"Ash-Greninja" itself sounds stupid. It should be called "Greninjash" just like is called "Sachanobi" in France ("Sacha" + "Amphinobi")

>>30962039
Do they stop trades from giving you a new one? Do injections prevent it?
If so, what the fuck is even the point?

>>30964302
PikASHinum Z

>>30961798
Because X zard is neutral to water and Greninja has the defences of a paper bag.

>>30966118
Ash-Greninja is objectively superior to Zard X, anon.

>>30966201
Maybe if the Charizard user is a retard.

>>30966253
ZardX can't OHKO Greninja.
if he tries to D-Dance because he can tank one hit, welp, enjoy getting MIZU SHURIKEN next.

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REMINDER
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7customgame-503402351

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>>30966781
Fucking hell the writers cucked him too hard.

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>>30966769
252 Atk Tough Claws Charizard-Mega-X Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja-Ash: 354-417 (124.2 - 146.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
I don't see much point in comparing them.Zard-X is a sweeper, A-Greninja is a late game cleaner

>>30966929
>using outrage

Don't start this shit again. Who in their right minds use outrage?

>>30966769
Chances of Greninja getting a kill with that is low
>252 SpA Greninja-Ash Water Shuriken (20 BP) (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 129-156 (43.4 - 52.5%) -- approx. 7.4% chance to 2HKO
Meanwhile
>0 Atk Tough Claws Charizard-Mega-X Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Greninja-Ash: 195-231 (68.4 - 81%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Which funnily enough is what happened and it came down to the line.

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>>30967001
There are crazy people out there. Although you are right, it is not common. Charizard has a guaranteed 2HKO. Greninja's Water shuriken needs a high count to 2HKO. So it boils down to LUCK. That is pokemon for you.

Ash would have won if he used Charizard

Charizium Z when?!

>>30967075
>3 hits

are you retarded?

>people arguing with Greninja and Charizard competitive sets

CHARIZARD HAD FLAMETHROWER

GRENINJA HAD CUT

>>30967343
It always hits 3 times when Ash-greninja use it you retarded fuck

>>30967390
>Cut that turned into water blades
he had waterate too

>>30967343
Ash-Greninja water-shuriken always hitting 3 times and 20bp each

it's the best priority right now

>>30967343
>I don't know how Water Shuriken works

>>30967451
Actually Ash-Greninja use "water cuts" ingame too.
https://youtu.be/-kntukrXDXc?t=20m10s