POKEMON PRISM IS CANNED THANKS TO SHITENDO

Prism got shut down only now because Prism is the name of the third SM game on Switch


All he has to do is get tpp to release it as ''TPP crystal special edition 2'' quietly on reddit and the chans

>>30938136
I really hope this happens, i was looking forward to it

Nintendo actively trying to ruin their own fanbase.

>>30938155
Alternatively he could release the source code (crystal disassembled) and someone can compile it

>>30938097

>it's a "anon thinks they know the law more than corporations" episode

>>30938097

It's entirely the fault of gaming news media. If you pay attention, the only fan games that get cease and desists are the ones that appear on mainstream gaming sites. Fangames held inside of small forum communities don't get the same treatment.

Companies like Nintendo don't want their IPs represented in the mainstream by fangames, but they'll allow them to exist outside of that bubble.

>>30938136
autism

next you'll say shitroid will get another game after Other M and FF

>>30938219
t. armchair expert

It got canned because the dev was a retard and advertised on jewtube and goybook.

How many more threads do we need about this shitty fangame?
>>30938097
>>30937606
>>30936182
>>30932690
>>30938212
>>30936477
>>30936739

"BAWW PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO FLAGRANTLY BREAK COPYRIGHT LAW, AND NINTENDO SHOULD SIT IDLY BY WHILE THEY LOSE THEIR IP RIGHTS BECAUSE I WANT TO PLAY A SHITTY FANGAME"

You're all fucking idiots.

>>30938097
3rd version of SM name Prism confirm

>>30938333
>fangame
romhack, nintendrone

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>>30938336
>BY WHILE THEY LOSE THEIR IP RIGHTS
hello armchairfaggot

>>30938333
Eh, give it a week max. The shitposting would die out by then.

>>30938369
see >>30938290

>>30938373
Rom hacks are still fangames.
Also, nice assumptions. Go back to >>>/v/

>>30938219
>>30938336
>patching in hex values is copywright infringement

>>30938330
this

>>30938336
>>30938333
>d-delet this mods ;_;
try using the filter or x button next time, triggered anons

>>30938458
>"is Half-Life a Quake fangame?"

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>>30938397
>fanart is illegal

>>30938489
Pokémon Prism is still a Pokémon game, and thus a fan game.
Make sure your arguement makes sense before posting it.

>>30938499
read the image again

a company can take down fanart anytime they wanted to

it's not the fact they aren't illegal, if the company doesn't warrant it, they'll ask you to shut it down.

>>30938542
>Pokémon Prism is still a Pokémon game, and thus a fan game.
should've said that first then, fag.

and my argument was clear, why would a hack/mod be automatically be a fan game of something else?

at least fangames are mostly done out of scratch effort, not on base.

>>30938595
Nice goalpost carrying.

>>30938632
what goalpost did i moved?

i should be the one asking you that

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>>30938097
>Thinking Nintendocares about their fans
>in the year of our lord 2100-84 AD
When will this meme end?

>>30938219
>implying law and morality are the same thing

>>30938336
Copyright law is immoral and unjustifiable. You should consider suicide. You really deserve it.

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>>30938688
as soon as drones just start doing a product that could counter the entire Pokemon product

>inb4 hurr we do fangames for the sake of fun! muh hobby too!
>he thinks shitendo cares about that too
Iwata was the only guy at Nintendo who understood that fangamers shouldn't be treated like criminals and be shutdown often-ly. he was the guy who personally gave free passes to whatever shit going on in the fanbase. (hence why stuff like AM2R or that oldass OoT2D project lived for so long)

and he's fucking dead

meanwhile Kimishima, an ex-NoA president, is CEO of the entire corporation. NoA has been super-aggressive on fan games since Howard Lincoln wanted to jew up video game prices at Congress and lost to that court case with Galoob

it should be obvious that NoA is pull all the strings with the shutdowns, and it's time to just move on and fight back somewhere else by making an original video game based on that product

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>>30938972
you could try shutting the anon up by posting stuff like >>30938397

>>30939000
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>>30939000
Are you seriously going to try that again?

Don't fall people, it's fucking ponies.

>>30939015
>>30939017
Hi nintendo

>Company exercises their right to protect their copyright and decide as to how it is used.
>People get mad about it

Why would you even begin a project such as this knowing that at any point Nintendo can legally take you down?

>>30939035
Hi Cory-man, I will very much enjoy your upload of Cory In The House: The Videogame for Nintendo DS

>>30939037
>their right
stopped reading right there. we used to have the 'right' to own slaves. but i guess you think that was okay too right? you probably do, i forgot where we are.

>>30938397

nintendo has taken down fan events and adult themed shit at conventions in the past. If they say it's infringing GUESS WHAT? It is. You can fight it and claim fair use but you're not getting past their legal team.

>>30939049
>Comparing slave ownership to a company owning copyright on intellectual property.

Great argument.

>>30938464

they set a precedent when Nintendo sued the makers of the Game Genie in the 80s. And lost.

>changing value in a game that exists
OKAY
>using said values to create a unique intellectual property
NO! PERMISSION NOT GRANTED!

>>30939080
>missing the point

Are you intentionally being obtuse? Because it's not acute.

>>30938397

actually yes a company representative can shut down any fan art or works if it infringes on their works or they just don't like it.

Why do you think there is almost zero cosplay porn of nintendo ips in moonland?

>>30939080
He's not comparing them at all you dink. He's saying what >>30938961 said. Just because it's their 'right' doesn't mean it's justified morally. If you think what they're doing is okay, then you must also believe that owning slaves was okay, since it was within the law at the time.

>>30938595
Fangame is literally any game made from a fan perspective. It doesn't need to be 100% original.

>>30939050
>but muh fair use
read this fucking pic again

SC says no company is sanctioned to defend there shit as much as possible nor will get in trouble for giving out free passes

however, this doesn't mean the company have the power to shut down stuff despite how grey area it is.

again it's up to the company to decide if this should roam among the public, liking SEGA's personal privilege to let Sonic fangamers to do whatever the hack they want non-profitably.

>>30939049

False Equivalent much?

>NINTENDO IS LITERALLY HITLER FOR TAKING DOWN MUH ROMHACKS

>>30939152

>liking SEGA's personal privilege to let Sonic fangamers to do whatever the hack they want non-profitably.

>MUH SEGA

Sega would sue if they had the fucking money to or any plans to makes 2D sonics that aren't pander trips.

>>30939145
It doesn't have to be justified morally, morality doesn't come into this sort of legal system and it shouldn't. It's a piece of created artwork and character and has nothing to do with real people.

"Oh but they are just having FUN guys haha they aren't going to have any effect on Nintendo at all, can't you just let them use what belongs to you because they aren't hurting anybody :)))))"

Do you see how dumb that is?

>>30939145
>if you think that protecting your IP is ok, then you think that slavery is ok because both were legal at some point in time in the universe
Overreaching a fucking lot. It would be the exact same as saying that you are ok with slavery right now because you want people to break the law on IP.

Do you really think it is immoral for Nintendo to shut down a project that is using their IP? It's not like Nintendo is targeting him especifically.

>>30939276
I'm not going to argue with you. We simply have different views. I'm not going to change your mind, and you're not going to change mine. You must be a lawyer or something. No good person thinks the way you do.

This would make sense if it were a hack of Sun and Moon, but no one cares about Crystal other than fans who are old enough to have played it growing up.

I hope he leaks it somehow, fucking jews...

>>30939338

>LAWYERS ARE ALL EVIL SOULLESS JEWS SO I WON'T BOTHER REASONING WITH YOU

well that's a funny way of saying "I have no argument"

>>30939290
>Do you really think it is immoral for Nintendo to shut down a project that is using their IP?

Yes, it is. No one should have the right to tell another entity that they are not allowed to improve upon an idea, whether specific or general. The current system of copyright law is archaic and immoral and is used to perpetuate unjustified monopolies. But now I realize I'm sounding like a fucking commie and also a nigger so I'll stop.

>>30939145
What kind of stupid false analogy. You have to defend your intellectual property

>>30939338
>You must be a Lawyer or something

No I'm just a rational person who lives in the real world.

>>30939379
Oh I do have an argument. But you won't listen. I know you won't. Your mindset is already there. You are not a good person and I cannot change that. You will simply generalize anything I post into a greentext with a few buzzwords or other similar nonsense in order to pass it off.

>>30939425
>claims he is not a lawyer
>capitalizes the world 'lawyer' needlessly
I see through your disguise goyim

>>30939387
At least you're self aware of your stupidity

>>30939455
Stay away from my shekels.

>>30939387

go open a store called Wal Mart 2 and sell how fast you get shut down.

>No one should have the right to tell another entity that they are not allowed to improve upon an idea, whether specific or general.

If you think you can do something better than someone else then make it your own than you can say your ideas were better than X companies idea. Instead these hacks are just aping their inspirations.

>>30939492
but it worked for the krusty krab

Glad its gone.

Time to report more hacks to nintendo.

>>30939387
So tell me what stops me from getting shitty games, putting inside Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon boxes and selling them. Nintendo has no rights over anything in there, I could even put a small asterisk that says "*Not real ingame footage" on the corner on the backside, to prevent other problems.

And if Nintendo even tries to stop me, they are the immoral ones that should be burned, how come they complain about me trying to improve on their IP???

>>30939436

All bark and no bite.

I knew you had no fucking argument.

>>30938097
>Use a company's intellectual property
>Without their permission
>Immaterial gainz as a result
>Expect company not to cease & desist your ass

I totally bit this bait tb h.

>>30939436
>I have an argument!
>I-it's just too good for you to see!
>B-baka lawyer gaijin
If your argument had any merit then it doesn't matter. You're just afraid that somebody is going to tear apart your argument and shatter your fragile ego.

Stop posting, pull away from the computer, and think about your life.

Pokemon Sage is next

>>30939516
I do. Are you actually going to respond to it without buzzwords, idioms, greentext, or reductio ad absurdum? I'll reply if you will actually read it.

>>30939530
see this is what I'm talking about. you people just resort to this stupid shit regardless of the content of the post.

>>30938136
nah, he's spooked. You can tell

>>30939537
Laws exist to protect my rights and the rights to my creation.

This isn't communism, where everyone shares and property is too.

Maybe you should create a new game and i will make a edgy crappy game out it. I hope you won't complain later.

>>30939583
meant to quote
>>30939537
also, ego on an anonymous board? how does that work?

>>30939506
Here's your (You).

>>30939599
>I hope you won't complain later.
no good person would complain about that.

>>30939276
Hold up. If morality doesn't define these laws, then what does? Sure, morality is subjective and changes with the time period, but if we aren't using morality as a standard against which to create our laws, how are we to decide our laws? Am I misunderstanding?

>>30939600
I know that it is hard for someone that is too used with shit like facebook, but ego is not associated with username.

>>30938097

>Hoennbabbies

They're called Hoennfants now. It rolls off the tongue much better.

Nintendo being disgusting as usual.

>>30939599
Imagine if Toby Fox complained about it

>>30939697
it's just that, if it's anonymous, no one will actually know who you are, so your ego shouldn't be affected in any way. you can just say 'LOL WRONG ANON' and continue on.

for example, no one reading this can ever prove one way or the other that i am replying to myself right now. am i? no one knows. no one can know.

>>30939685
Fairness. Usually what is moral is fair, but they are not equals. Laws were created so that everything is fair for everyone.

It is not fair that random nobody uses the name of an IP that a company has been taking care and looking after for 2 decades.

>>30939624
come on someone take this b8 my lunch break is almost over

>>30939776
>taking care and looking after
Pokemon went to shit after R/B so hardly.

Serves him right for selling out to Twitch plays pokemon. They made the shitty trailer and also scammed him.

>>30939776
But then how do you define what is and is not fair? Do you not require some form of morality to determine that? How do you determine that your example is unfair? Would you also agree that your statement applies to fanfiction as well? Are you against that? That's fine if you are, not trying to push you into a corner or anything. I genuinely just want to understand the extent to which you believe what you're saying.

>>30939791
Good for you. But that's not what that poster was talking about

>>30939791

>pretending to be a genwunner ON /vp/ OF ALL PLACES

It's generally accepted that Gen 1 aged like milk anon by everyone besides nostalgiafags and genwunners.

>>30939765
>no one knows
Unless you have mental problems, at least you should know.

I don't think you know what ego is, your ego can be affected by stuff you read, and it doesn't matter who it is reading or who is writing.

>>30939824

it's not for us to judge it's the courts and the copyright holders decision to.

>>30939826
But that's perfectly acceptable to divert the discussion to something else unrelated to what the poster is talking about. It was done in at least half the posts here.

It's not an original indie game, it's a fan game/romhack. I don't get why the devs thought they had privilege of promoting it across every channel possible, on twitch, youtube, and mainstream gaming news websites like it's some big official upcoming release. The marketing is where they went wrong.

Never market something that can be C&Ded before release. Let the final product speak for itself and work on marketing it after. If you have to tell people about it use enthusiast forums and don't make professional official looking trailers that get 1.4 million views on youtube.

It's honestly hard to have sympathy for these devs who think they can gain this much visibility and popularity for something they know can be legally pursued.

It's plain idiocy and flaunting of something that can be easily punished. It's like stealing from a museum, getting away with zero police leads, and then buying advertisements that tells a huge mainstream audience that you have the stolen object. If you commit an infraction that would otherwise go unpunished, don't advertise loudly and proudly about it.

>>30939842
I know what ego is but I think I may just have been here too long. Except for this post, I literally never actually write honestly about how I feel about anything here. I just write stuff to see how others respond.

>>30939544
in 10 years we will make a thread about it

>>30939850
Okay. Perhaps a meaningful distinction in your mind, but replace the word 'you' in the post with 'courts and the copyright holders'.

>>30938333
b-but my argument was different

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>>30939901
Here, I'll post it.

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>>30939940

>>30939824
No morality is required on stuff like copyrights. It is basic logic, if a person creates something, he has the rights to use it.

About fanfiction, if someone is releasing a fanfiction, and its creator doesn't like how it is portraying its IP, it has all the rights to stop it.

>>30939881
If you knew what ego is, then you should know that you don't have to explicitly post what is your current emotional status for everyone. For example, you can know that someone has a fragile ego just by looking at the way they post.

>>30939969
>About fanfiction, if someone is releasing a fanfiction, and its creator doesn't like how it is portraying its IP, it has all the rights to stop it.

Hmm, i don't think that how it work.Specially if it fail under the Liberty of expression

>>30939991
I agree. That's why I don't engage with people who reply with nonsense greentext and memes because they're obviously fucked in the head.

I've never cared for any fan games. They have no reason to exist, just make your own game instead of piggybacking on a popular brand.

>>30940045
Here's your (You).

>>30940011
Expression only works if it's jounalism talking about propertys or wishlists.

Not actual new stories. Still Nintendo will go afher any illegal rom hack or fan game or roms of games they own.

Oddly enough they don't seem to take down gen 1 hacks or edited hacks. Just new story hacks. They must not really like when the games are edgy.

>>30940011
Freedom of speech was made to protect people from being censored because of their opinions. A fanfic is not an opinion.

>>30938333
>shitty
>fangame

>>30939969
Not necessarily. Blanket statements like that are dangerous and can lead to edge cases that you must also agree with or be deemed a hypocrite. For example, if I created the cure for cancer and copyright it, you would say that I have the right to use it in any way that I please. The cure is in liquid form, so I wish to use it as sex jelly for my girlfriend (my ona hole). No one gets cured of cancer and I create a new form of cancer by simply existing, thanks to your amoral copyright laws.

>>30940076
I'm being sincere. The dude spending so much time on a fan game could be making something original instead. He might even be able to make money off of it that way, and wouldn't have to worry about copyright lawyers removing his life's work.

>>30940098
I think that's the first time I've seen the word amoral used correctly. Most people just use it as a synonym for immoral.

>>30940098
Morals are subjective.

The healthcare and the govt override cases of what you are discribing. Anti-trust laws.

>>30940131
I think he did actually work on an original game at some point. iirc it was a game that was set in a city and you drove around in something

You piss babies don't realize that in America it is a law to protect your intellectual properties or you could lose them. They can't just sit and let everyone make games and shit using their names and characters. Here's an idea, if you want them to stop... stop trying to make these games and make your own shit.

>>30940167
Then why is Mario still Nintendo's propery despite so many fangames?

>>30940167
Guys let's make pokemon romhacks until we own the franchise for ourselves.

>>30939867
Underrated post

>>30940167
Let's see some cases where the owner of an IP lost it. Go on, expecting more than one example here.

>>30940145
Okay. Pretend I used an example that doesn't have a loophole to justify your argument. I also agree that morals are subjective, but 'fairness' is also subjective. The three-fifths compromise was 'fair'. What America did to the indians was 'fair'. The fare I paid on the bus to get to the fair was 'fair'. The weather that day was also 'fair'. What were we talking about?

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>>30940217
Life isn't fair. The law exists to protect people and their property.

You are violating their property with out their intent. You had no permission and you are hurting their brand.

Another thing is nothing would be profitable if someone made a terrible offensive game that made a known franchise suck and was created by a fan.

You are basically asking to some way to come in my house and shit in it.

>>30940258
You liked your own tweet and then posted it here? Here's your (You).

>>30940098
You invented it, you can do whatever you want with it. But a judge is who will decide by its own morality what is right.

Laws are made based on what is fair, and since it is impossible to describe every single case in the universe, judges exist to interpret it and use their morality to decide what was fair in that specific case. This is why for example, there are cases where a judge isn't required, since both parties agreed on what is fair on their own, and not what is moral.

>>30940271
I don't usually shit in the things that I come into. Sometimes on, but not in.

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so when is someone gonna leak this shit

literally dozens of ways to do it without being tracked, do it at a library or something

>>30940396
Someone on the dev team said they're going to leak it on Christmas day after fixing some bugs or some shit. Here's hoping.

>>30940396
The problem is that the only "someones" with the rom are the creator and the twitch fags, so that's a problem.

just saying, but there are differences betwen morals and ethics, and laws arent based on morals. Some people here seems to misunderstood

>>30940424
Who? Sauce?

>>30940456
Yeah, literally the first thing they taught us in law school was "If you can't separate Law from Morals and Ethics, leave. There is nothing here for you. Don't waste our time and your money."

This is literally day 1 shit.

>>30940471
One of the devs in the Prism Discord said this. They live in Argentina and don't give a shit apparently.

>>30940550
well if that dev lives in Argentina, there no way JEWtendo can get him :)

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>>30938417

>>30938632
Except that's exactly what you did newfag. Stop posting

>>30939145
But owning slaves was ok

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>people have distributed patches for hacks for LITERALLY DECADES
>in that time, they've never targeted any hacks, no matter how damaging they could be to their business
>You can make a hack with swastikas, penises and Mario as a member of the KKK and that's totally fine
>Even though it actually COULD hurt their Mario Maker sales, they never went after the hundreds of Mario hacks available, or the tools to make them
>they get rid of THIS hack, though
Something about this smells off.

>>30940638
Maybe they got rid of this hack since this one was heavily advertised by the devs

I was kinda looking forward to playing this too

oh well maybe if they weren't retarded and sold out to TPP and then decide to not release the game for a few months this wouldn't have happened

>>30940638
1) devs hyped up the youtube trailer and did tpp. Big mistake.
2) Prism may be targeted specifically becauae of something related to Necrozma and the Switch SM game.

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I already chose to pirate SM instead of buying it because of the shit that happened with AM2R, and at least AM2R actually got released and mirrored before the DMCA.

What the fuck Nintendo? What do you gain from this? How is this going to help your PR?

>>30940638
>go after a released hack
This is retarded, they have no way to prevent it from spreading on the net. But they can stop the development of harmful hack. Especially one

>>30939276
>>30939276
>>30938336
>>30939037
>>30939216
>>30939423
>>30939969
>>30940167
>>30940271
>I don't know why copyright exists: the posts

The only reason companies have a right to decide how theitr work is used at all is because it's intended to be a temporary incentive for them to continually make new ones. By allowing them to temporarily profit off of it, and then losing the right to, there's a reason for them to contiually make more content,

The entire purpose of IP law, not even just for copyright, is for the public good, not private profit. Companies and individuals have no and should have no inherent right to control their discoveries and creations. Fangames, if anything, are completely in line with the purpose of it, because it's fostering the creation of new content the public can consume without interfering with the incentiization of the creation of new IP's.

And even if it was, in any sane system where term lengths are actually defined to be a period of time to execute the intended purpose of copyright law, the Pokemon IP would be in the public domain already.

Furthermore, companies have absoluteloy zero obligation to take down infirning content for copyright. They don't lose their right to it if they don't or anything of the sort. With trademarks, there is a process called genericization where if the use of the brand name in the public's eye it becomes synonbmous with the product type itself, such as if "nintendo" became synomous with "a video game console regardless of brand", then they lose it, but obvious fangames and fanworks have absolutely no impact on that.
No, you don't. That's only for trademarks and even then it wouldn't require you to go

>>30938097
>hoennbabbies
Your cognitive bias is reaching absurd levels.

>>30940864
*especially one that was so well advertised and could actually make kids think that it is an official pokemon game.

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>>30940864
>stop the development
The game's already finished, and has been finished for months.

>>30940870
>defending Hoenn fans

>>30941015
I'm not. I'm laughing at the obsession people like you have with hoennfags.

>>30938097
Hoennfants*

>>30940867
>Copyrights exists as a temporary incentive
Copyrights lasts for a fucking long time. Nintendo could not move a finger in the pokemon franchise until you die and it would still hold the copyright to it.

Also, "incentive" is a kind word for, no one else should fucking profit from what you invented unless they have permission to. It is only fair that you profit from what you invented, but how do you stop people from copying your shit? Copyrights.

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>>30938136
> because Prism is the name of the third SM game on Switch

Right, because we got Grey for Gen 5, and Delta Emerald and Z for Gen 6.

>>30941151
No.
It's babbies

>>30941166
How does a free fangame made out of love and passion profit anyone?

leak when

>>30941166
>Copyrights lasts for a fucking long time.

Because companies lobbyied for the term lengths to be extended. Originally, it only lasted for 14 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1790

And research from a few years ago showed that the ideal term length to incentivize new IP's would also be 14 years: http://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2007/07/research-optimal-copyright-term-is-14-years/

>>30938097
Literally who fucking cares? Instead of advertising everywhere they were doing something illegal, they should have just made the fucking game out of love for the franchise and released it without making a fuzz.

>>30941236
It can be that copyrights were invented with incentives as one of the main reasons, but it is in no way why it exists now.

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>>30941275
>ROMhacking
>illegal

>>30941194
u gay?

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>>30941275
> ROM Hack
> Illegal

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>>30941275
>ROM Hacking
>illegal
Ebin meme

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B-but it'll be leaked soon, right? Right?

The fuck happened to fair use? These guys weren't making profit off it were they?

How is this bullshit?
Nintendo is perfectly right in wanting to safeguard their IP from shitty fan products that ruin their brand and image.

>>30941415
JEWtendo don't care of Fair Use. i will laugh if the dev goes to the court against that C&D

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>>30941435
>shitty
Prism had more effort put into it since every game since BW2.

>>30941275
You're gonna get memed on, but you're right. No idea why they didn't release it silently instead of attracting attention like a fucking bunch of retards.

>pokemon prism canned
>shit like sun and moon and all of gen 6 are allowed to exist

>>30941415
Fair use doesn't apply here for a few reasons

1) it uses and reverse engineers the official product and promotes piracy
2) it isn't for educational, review, or critique purposes.
3) it's not transformative enough of the official IP to be seen as different.

>>30941490
This

>>30941521
> Promotes piracy
> Use a 20 year old game
Chose one.

>>30941581
Pirating a 20 year old game is still piracy.

>>30941490

>lumping Sun and Moon with the shitheap that was Gen 6

yeah fuck you

>>30941293
Right, but it's not that way now because companies lobbied the fuck out of lawmakers.

>>30941521
>>30941415
It may actually fall under fair use in this case since it's just a patch rather then a game itself, but it doesn't really matter if it falls under fair use or not if he doesn't have a ton of money he's willing to spend on legal fees to fight it.

>>30941593
Which cannot make Jewtendo loses money because it's no longer solded for many years...

>>30940833

>help your PR

normies don't care

>what do you gain?

it's more about loss really.

>HURR THIS ILLEGAL PRODUCT GOT C&D'D I'MMA RESPOND BY DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL AND CONTINUING TO PLAY THEIR GAMES THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY WORSE THAN THE FAN PROJECTS THAT'LL SHOW SHITENDO

>>30938097
good

make your own games instead of fanfictioning this hard you idiots

>>30940638

they advertised it on e begger sites and whored it on TPP which Nintendo has investments in. this isn't a surprise.

>>30941660
Just because they are not losing money it doesn't mean it's not piracy.

>>30941435
>safeguard their IP from shitty fan products that ruin their brand and image.
You're telling me this romhack is somehow more damaging than Super Nazi CocKKK Bros?

>>30941660
Except they could have plans for releasing the games on the virtual console.

>>30941661
Don't you
>HURR
me. Why should I support Nintendo after this? The earliest I'd be willing to give them another cent is when the Switch has enough games to be worth buying/when the Switch has easy, open piracy. I still like Nintendo games, even modern Pokémon games, but I have been watching Prism's development since 2010 or so and cared about it much more than Sun and Moon, especially after seeing the lack of postgame in SM for the third game in a row despite them strongly hinting at bringing back the Frontier with that shitty statue in ORAS. Why should they receive my money?

>>30941745
>Super Nazi CocKKK Bros
Is this an actual thing?

>>30941746
I doubt it. They only put RBJ in the VC because Mah aniversary

>>30938097

>Adult Swim game devs made a pokemon clone based on Rick and Morty
>other than windowdressing, references, and gameplay similarities it can be considered its own game and only uses copyrighted material they already own
>Nintendo ignores them
>fans make a romhack that blatantly rip assets from original games, slap a coat of DONUT STEEL on it and advertise it as their own product that they "worked hard" on not to mention all but blare on a megaphone to NoA that you were releasing it
>Nintendo shuts it down

AW WHAT THE FUCK SHITENDO ANTI CONSUMER YOU USED TO BE BETTER THAN THIS LITERALLY HITLER I WANT NEW IPS EXCEPT CODENAME STEAM THAT'S TOO DIFFERENT RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

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>>30941784
I mean I wouldn't be surprised.

>>30941843
What's wrong with not wanting shit games like Codename Steam?

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>>30941784
People have made Nazi dick hacks for the longest time.

>>30941778

>Why should I support Nintendo after this?

I'm not your financial adviser or a mind reader.

>The earliest I'd be willing to give them another cent is when the Switch has enough games to be worth buying/when the Switch has easy, open piracy.

so you don't really like nintendo but you like their products. That's a textbook defintion of a fair weather pretendo fan if i ever heard it.

>I still like Nintendo games, even modern Pokémon games,
apparently you didn't like Codename STEAM because despite demanding new IPs no one bought it because EW NOT ENOUGH WAIFUS, I DON'T LIKE AMERICAN HISTORY, THIS ARTSTYLE SUCKS, I DON'T LIKE THIS GENRE ANYWAY, WHY DID INTELLEGENT SYSTEMS WORK ON THIS INSTEAD OF MORE FIRE EMBLEM?
>but I have been watching Prism's development since 2010 or so and cared about it much more than Sun and Moon
Confirmation bias
>especially after seeing the lack of postgame in SM for the third game in a row despite them strongly hinting at bringing back the Frontier with that shitty statue in ORAS. Why should they receive my money?
MUH BATTLE FRONTIER

yes i was upset when i saw the construction of BF in ORAS
yes Emerald is one of my favorite pokemon games becauee of it

But lumping S/M with the lackluster gen 6 just shows that apparently a step in the right direction isn't good enough and you won't stop bitching and moaning until they make a game ABSOLUTELY catered to you which they never will so why the fuck are you a "fan" again?

>>30941861

>Codename STEAM
>shit

confirmed for never playing it and confining IS to making Waifu Emblem for eternity

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>>30941980
>pretendo

I didn't know Cody browsed /vp/.

i know a tester thats leaking it xmas day

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I will never, never, NEVER understand how people are so fucktarded EVERY SINGLE TIME.

That kind of project is always, invariably, UN-FUCKING-DOUBTABLY axed the second it garners too much attention, or as soon as it gets any kind of playable material out.

So what do they do?
Do they stay silent until it's ready?
Do they obscure the release date until they can release the complete version?
Do they put up the game before they can get a C&D, thus making it impossible to contain it?

No
NO
EVERY FUCKING GODDAMN TIME
THEY ACT LIKE RETARDS

WHY
HOW IS EVERYONE SO DUMB
It happens EVERY FUCKING TIME, HOW DO FAN-PROJECTS STILL NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO THIS SHIT

THEY DESERVE IT
THEY FULLY DESERVE THIS SHIT
EVERY FUCKING TIME
RETARDS
FUCK YOU
THIS IS YOUR PUNISHMENT FOR HAVING SHIT IN YOUR CRANIUM IN THE LIEU OF BRAINS

>>30942002
They doomed themselves to Waifu Emblem after they made Awakening.

>>30941778

>I cared more about a 20 year old romhack than a mainline game
>LOOK HOW HIPSTER I AM GUISE

nostalgiafags are absolute cancer. Sun and Moon aren't perfect but if you think they are worse than RBY, GSC, or XYORAS you're deluding yourselves.

>>30940550
not nintendo but can u hook a guy up with an invite

>>30942079
t.babby who's first game was black/white

>>30942079
Prism has a ton of modern enhancements like the phys/spec split, newer moves, newer Pokémon, etc., it's not just GSC.

I would say GSC are better than SM just for having two regions though. I personally rank the generations
4 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 7 > 1 > 6
The reason SM is so low for me is the cutscenes actually, not the postgame. I haven't even finished the game because I'm so sick of the cutscenes (just caught Lunala).

>>30940867
Holy fucking shit this.

Copyright has become a bloated Draconian institution.

>>30942076

nope.

they TRIED to make a new game so they wouldn't get typecast to make nothing but FE games after the success of Awakening and the demand for more strategy nintendo games. No one bought it because it didn't have enough waifus, it wasn't anime enough, and apparently most people didn't even know that the shit demo when turns took too long was patched DAY FUCKING ONE and reviewers STILL shit on it assuming the patches never existed. CS reviews pissed me off because this was never addressed they just parroted CAWWWWW GAME TOO SLOW CAWWWWWW and no one bought it.

>>30938165
Except for the fact most of their fanbase are super casual and don't know about Romhacks and the ones that do are so hooked, they'll keep buying the games anyway.

>>30941435
I seriously doubt this would damage their brand. How do you even prove 'damage' in a court of law?

>>30942168
They should have made a better game then.

>>30942103

yeah fuck you I was 10 when Generation 1 was a thing. I fell off on Crystal, hated RS, liked FireRed/Leafgreen, loved Emerald for the BF, liked DPPtHGSS era the BEST, didn't care for B/W outside of the story, skipped BW2, hated XY and ORAS, and loved Sun and Moon.

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>>30942231
>literally patrician taste
A-anon I...

>>30942231
I'd recommend playing BW2, they're pretty good.

desu couldn't give less of a fuck about modern pokemon but prism looked great. fuck nutendo someone leak this shit

>>30939145
I sincerely hope you kys

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>>30938097
This is his own fault for being a fucking tool and witholding it even after it was proven ready on livestream. He deserves it.

>control+f moral
>26
Moralfags go back to tumblr

>>30942535

fair weather genwunner ungrateful pessimistic nitpicking rose tinted goggle wearing "I only like nintendo when nintendo is good" shitheel

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>this guy dies
>nintendo immediately becomes shitty and evil

if he were president this would have never happened.

>>30942796

Not really. these kikes tried to stop evo from streaming melee even while that faggot jap was alive. they were always and always will be the worst scum.

so itt we are claiming that shitty fangames are more important than the right to intellectual property

>>30942960
(You)

>>30942766
Weaponized autistic brand loyalist

>>30942796
>becomes shitty and evil
Where the fuck have you been

Why is this the Hoennfants' fault, exactly?

Did anybody even know about pokemon prism or whatever the fuck it is before all of this?

I've been browsing /vp/ for a while now and I've never heard of this fucking game

>>30942168
The demo needs to be the absolute best the game will ever be, honestly, unless it's dropped MONTHS before the game proper.

It was fine (and still is) when it comes to previewing potential content, but when you don't get a demo until a week or two before ship date there's no real excuse for the game to not be ridiculously close to the real thing.

In this specific case, though, I'm willing to chalk it up to "most of the playtesters didn't think to flag it in time for the demo". Shit happens.

>>30944853
I've known about it since at least 2008. Pokemon Brown and Pokemon Prism are the most popular Pokemon romhacks. Define 'a while'.

>>30944853
Yes, it's being made by one of the most influential romhackers in Pokemon romhacking.

>>30944853

yes desu senpai I've been a fan since day one. For me, a true fan of koolboyman's since pokemon brown this is devastating. I've seriously no joke been looking forward to this game for 8 years.

However I suspect I'm in the minority and most people here probably just heard of this through TPP and just want to shit on nintendo.

>>30941415
Twitch Plays Pokemon probably made money off of playing it through Twitch Subscriptions but I don't think the actual Dev was getting money off it in any way, I could be wrong.

It's probably because of the Twitch Stream, hugely popular trailer using the Pokemon Logo, and the delay for minor bug fixes that all added up to nintendo taking it down, which sucks. Uranium at least got to release before a takedown, and I think Uranium only got a C&D AFTER they took it down out of fear.

Why are nintendrones defending this? Literally who benefits from this?

>>30944853
Fuck off newfag

>>30940867
This was pretty much the argument that I was going to post but I didn't. Great attempt, but they won't reply with anything other than a couple greentexts and memewords. There's no way to change their minds. Their ego is too fragile to admit that they're wrong so they'll simply pass your correct argument off as nothing by generalizing it and reducing it to a few cherrypicked words.

>>30942728
Honestly this. EVERY indie dev/romhacker/content creator knows that you don't wave your fanworks around before they are released. Nintendo are like fucking sharks, the very second they find out the release date they'll destroy you days before it comes out.

>>30942680
Elaborate, you vile fiend.

>Namin your game the same as the new nintendo title
shouldn't have waited for christmas fuccbois
you knew prism had a chance of being the name of the switch title
why wouldn't you release ASAP

These guys that are caving to C&Ds have a bunch of ways of working around them. If they actually gave a shit they'd either fight back or play around it, but they don't most of the time. I could give a shit about some half-baked no-grit pansies in a basement not willing to stand up for their work.

Nintendo's only playing the game as they've been told is okay. Boycotting their games or sending them angry letters doesn't tell them to stop, but making it not worth their time does. I'd be willing to bet that if EVEN ONE of these guys pulled out corporate law and said "Yeah I don't think so. See you in court." they'd probably back the fuck off instead of wasting tons of money on legal fees and lawyers for 0 profit.

>>30942766
This better be a joke. If you like nintendo when nintendo isn't good you should probably kill your self.

This shit better leak, I didn't wait this long to get cucked by Ninty lawyers.

>>30945365

yeah he made a mistake, everyone gets that. But now 8 years of work are down the drain and for what? Are you saying he deserves to have his life work yanked away from him at the last moment over a dumb mistake?

the worst part is it will NEVER get released now since KBM has his hands tied, and nintendo can't just says "whoops we were wrong nvm" or basically have to take legal action even if they changed their mind now that this is out in the open and a big deal. The only chance at it ever seeing the light of day is if it gets leaked by someone who's not KBM or if he tries to make a "statement" and release it anyway

This will not be an issue. They can still upload it to thousands of filesharing websites and nobody would fucking know. Throw a link here or thousands of other anonymous sources. They can still release it very easily with no legal repercussions from nintendo, simply through anonymity. The file size is probably fucking less than 5mb.
.

>>30945466
Yeah, but Nintendo did it so it's okay.

He should just get someone to upload it to a torrent site
>"Oh no, I was hacked! What a tragedy!"
It's not like Nintendo's actually going to take him to court.

>>30942759
Edgelords go back to deviantart

>>30945531
Yeah honestly, even if he doesn't leak it somebody will. C&Ds are scare tactics and when the content actually ends up getting out nobody is harmed unless the creator openly states he released it.

>>30945218
I don't even remember now, sometime before 2012 at least

so what's stopping us from just reverse engineering the game from the ground up based on the twitch footage?

bet it would take less than a month if a nuff people worked on it

>>30945603
What

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>>30945603
Is this bait or..

>>30945603
Are you retarded

>>30945613

we know the story of the game and all the maps and pokemon in it. Just recreate the game from scratch. It would be hard, but it's possible because we've seen twitch already play it

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>>30945632
Don't worry we've got our top hex coders on the task already. ETA is 2 weeks.

>>30945632
How do you propose to recreate all the new assets and insert them into the code in a functional way?

>>30945480
Crimson echoes says hi

Remember when Pokemon hacks were released constantly and Nintendo didn't care?

If he released it two years ago this wouldn't even be a thing.

>>30945577
if you're not into rom hacking then it's understandable, don't sweat it

>>30945693

just ask koolboyman how he did it.

>>30945720
If he just released it when it was complete this wouldn't be a thing.

>>30945755
Then KBM becomes part of the dev team LOL.

>>30945780
Okay? If you're trying to defend Nintendo, you're doing a poor job.

>>30945817
Not that anon but N has every right to do this. You fucks should just shut up and be grateful that they invented pokemon so you get to have some meaning in your pathetic lives.

>>30945817
I'm not defending Nintendo at all. Koolboyman was a fucking retard for parading his romhack around months before release when it was already complete. It's like indie devs/romhackers learned nothing from AM2R

>>30945789
>How would you, Koolboyman, as a veteran programmer, hypothetically code this particular part of a particular pokemon crystal game hack if you were to hypothetically hack pokemon games (which I understand you don't do, but for the sake of argument)?

so many ways to reword the question so he helps without explicitly saying anything.

shit, I just thought of a better idea. Why not disassemble the game itself and then tweet the game code on bit at a time? nothing stopping him from just saying a bunch of 1's and 0's and if he's caught he could just say he was possessed by the devil or some shit

>>30945862
>right
Legally, sure. Not in any other way.

>>30945876
I can't tell if you're being serious or not anymore dude, it's just going to leak online like any other finished C&D project.

>>30945876
Yes KBM can leak his project if he wants to. The problem is it will all be on his head. If he gets blacklisted or sued by Nintendo then his life will be over. He would never risk that.

>>30945817
The fact is, devs flaunted that they would release the full game only AFTER the TPP run, which led to "hype", which led to Kotaku and shitty friends to talk about it. As such it gained too much popularity and bang- here comes the C&D. Instead of flaunting and letting us play the game on through the dead horse that is TPP, they could have just released the thing hours later the run ended, or before it even started. Fuck they could have taken advantage of the peeps who were eager to play Sun/Moon and release Prism BEFORE the official games were out.

I'm salty, but they deserve it.

>>30945987
They deserve to get shut down after 8 years because you're butthurt they didn't release it a month earlier?

SOMEONE JUST UPLOAD IT

>>30946051
Megaupload okay?

>>30946051
Okay, I'm hacking into KBM's system right now. Should be up in five minutes.

>>30946051
Someone did upload it.
>>30939940

>>30946036
No, they deserve to be shut down because they advertised this fucking game all over the internet even after the Uranium case.

>>30946036
They deserve to get shut down after 8 years because they got cocky in the last couple of months and put it on fucking TPP instead of releasing it the second they found out that there was ANY chance of Nintendo wanting "Prism" as a pokemon game name.

They deserve to get shut down because they're letting themselves be shut down instead of saying "No, put this shit in front of a judge or fuck off". They're idiots or cowards for not pressing back and submitting to one of the oldest copyright scare tactics in the book.

They deserve to get shut down because they're retarded and have no guts. If they don't respect themselves and their "8 years of work" so much, then they'll push back instead of taking it lying down. Otherwise, what was even the fucking point of starting in the first place?

>>30945987
>>30946036
In hindsight the devs are definitely salty they didn't release it a week earlier.

Even a small release and we wouldn't be having this discussion. We'd be talking about how shitty the romhack is instead and how we can't believe that this pile of shit took 8 years.

>>30946164
?

Okay, so why does that make it right or smart for nintendo to shut it down?

>>30946180
I dunno it looked pretty fun senpai

>>30946175
I mean I understand why someone like you might 'stand up' for a rom hack, but if Nintendo wanted to, they could literally kill KBM (by bleeding him of his funds until he dies from starvation I mean). He could end up in prison. A romhack isn't worth that. I mean I know Nintendo won't do shit, but unless you're autistic, you would feel differently if it was your ass on the line. I'm autistic and I'd stand up for my romhack so I know how you feel. Normal people wouldn't do that because they're normal.

>>30946196
It's their IP. They can do whatever the fuck they want.

Plus, it's obvious they made money off the TPP thing. Disguise them as donations all you want, but those are dollars Nintendo isn't getting.

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>>30938097
good
It was shit anyway

>>30946228
I'm in law and I know that Nintendo doesn't have the guts to follow through. If they did, they'd be smashing down romhacks and romshare sites left and right, but they're not.

So yeah, going exclusively on Nintendo's legal history and past examples, I'd tell them to take me to court or not bother pussyfooting around.

Why not just make your own fucking game?

>>30946229
>It's their IP. They can do whatever the fuck they want.
I don't think you understood my question. Read it again.

>Plus, it's obvious they made money off the TPP thing. Disguise them as donations all you want, but those are dollars Nintendo isn't getting.
Was koolboyman making money off of that? If that's true, why haven't they tried to shut down TPP, which has been making money off of their games for years?

>>30946273
Okay. So let's say they did. Let's say this would be the first time they ever went to court over a romhack. It's not like they aren't breaking precedents right now anyway. Sun/Moon is the first time they banned people for playing early online. It's the first time they banned people for playing roms at all as far as I know.

Even though I agree with you that it's incredibly unlikely, there's still the chance that they could use this as their first romhacking court case.

Reminds me of two other fangame/mod that I was excited for Fighting is Magic and Project Melee that ate C&Ds from their respective IP handlers because reasons.


Cant say I knew much about the game ITT, but I know the feel of so much effort getting thrown outta the window because the project got noticed.

>>30938097
They deserved it desu. I love when this shit happens and I hope the same thing happens to mother 4.

If you're gonna steal someone's idea, don't think you'll get off for free. I hope this serves as a testament to why being original is a good idea.

>>30946346
That's part of my point, actually.

People arguing the "8 years of effort" crap are stupid, because clearly it doesn't matter to the devs half as much as it matters to those faggots. If the devs cared that much, they'd fight it despite the potential (no matter how unlikely) consequences.

But they don't, so they aren't.

>>30946386
It's ironic because this wrong opinion has already been posted numerous times

>>30946416
>opinions
>capable of being wrong

Tears are delicious, anon

>>30946386
If they learn anything from this it's to RENAME things and reskin if you're going to do fan games.

I hope someone is taking notes here.

>>30946386
Mother 4 actually took precautions despite having Itoi's Blessing in that they're renaming it to something else, so it won't get hit because it doesn't actually feature anything that Nintendo can hit them for once the name change is made aside from being "heavily inspired by Earthbound."
In which case, if inspiration was all you needed to go berserk, basically EVERY GAME EVER could be shut down.

>>30946386
Now I think they deserved it, but you're an idiot that's never even looked into game design if you think that anybody gives two shits about Originality.

One of the first things they teach us is that good innovation of existing material and ideas is both cheaper and often more effective than making new material from scratch. You refine what works and discard what doesn't until you get the game you want to make. Then marketing fucks tell you it's shit and make you backtrack to a shittier version but hey that's business for you.

>>30946439
exactly. This is the real key. Stop calling all these fan games "Pokemon _________"

>>30946404
I agree. This was just a side project for them. 8 years of development is not the same as 8 years of continuous development. I have a romhack that's been in the works for 6 years and I haven't worked on it in 4 years. And now I feel sad.

>>30946378
Wasn't Project M already basically finished when did got D&Ded?

>>30946439
>despite having Itoi's blessing

Stopped reading there. He has never done this. He has not specifically stated this fan game is ok in his book.

>>30946474
Aside from planned characters and future balancing, yes.

>XY was an abomination
>ORAS was genuinely worse than emerald
>SM was mediocre and it's the most painful mainline game to replay

Fucking prism was supposed to save me from this drought. Just end me guys

>>30946431
I was referencing that meme, yes anon.

>>30946470
Well, be sure you don't call it "Well known IP name"

>>30945876
>Why not disassemble the game itself

I know at this point you're shitposting, but the game is already disassembled. They took the disassembled version of Crystal, disassembled the old Gold hack version of Prism, formatted the features of the Gold hack to the disassembly's format, and finished the game in that state. They were already planning to release the source code after the game's release if not for the C&D.

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im kinda out of the loop here. what was pokemon prisim going to be? (even though it looks like its been livestreamed before)

>>30946474
They never got a C&D

>>30946526
It's a crystal romhack, a very detailed one which is cool. It's already finished just isn't allowed to be released.

>>30946416
to be fair, if you're going to use someone else's IP and turn it into your own thing then you need to be prepared for there to be legal repercussions. I think that you should be prepared to accept that what you're doing is at the whim of the original creator. You forfeit the right to complain about getting a C&D as soon as you start a project like this. Same goes for music, remixing, etc. I sample a lot but if someone said "hey, don't use my music" I have no right to complain about it.

>>30946474
It didn't get C&D'd, they just all got scared they would and stopped working on it.

>>30946526
GSC romhack made by some genius/tryhard. The guy also made brown which is probably the best RB romhack that there is.

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>>30946489
>want to fuck around with making some Drayano-esque hack using a ROMBase that includes features up-to-date with Gen 6/7, New Moves, Abilities, Items and maybe even an expanded Pokedex with all the Pokemon already in it
>can't find a single one that isn't unfinished as fuck and probably won't ever find one now that every hacker will be scared of getting shut down

>>30946439
Fuck off Nintendo.

>>30946565
I agree. And that's likely why the dev team gave in so easily.

>>30946474
There were three brand new characters they were going to add (two clones and one new character with no prior base) and the two clones were like 99% done when they canned everything. There was also a planned 64 Mode that used low-poly models of the characters, new skins, etc.

4.0 was going to be a HUGE release but it got canned and so much stuff got wasted. Wiiztec, the based man that he is, leaked all of it, but the cunts at Smashboard have banned anything that uses assets from the leaks because the PMDT are so salty about it.

>>30946547
>>30946574
Not that guy, but what exactly was supposed to be the draw? Remade plot? Adding in new stuff? Adapting the newer gens?

I don't get it when people get up in arms that's basically a half-baked remake of the game.

let's think of this clearly. Why does nintendo want to shitcan THIS particular hack and not any other version? My guess

a) the hype + trailer promoting pokemon prism looks too official and doesn't go far enough to state it's a fan game
b) the name itself (being called pokemon prism) when they themselves are probably planning a pokemon prism game

Think about it, if you're nintendo and you're actually releasing a game called pokemon prism, do you want there to be trailers and shit out there promoting a totally unrelated game? I'm guessing no, so they took it, the website, and the trailer down and the game itself is just collateral damage.

If the game is somehow leaked I doubt nintendo will even give a shit. They'll just be happy there's no longer any promotional material out there that could get people to confuse it with a real nintendo game. They also don't want his trailer/website coming up when people google "pokemon prism" if it's going to be an official game. Whether the game gets released or not isn't their primary concern. Now that the supplemental material is all removed nintendo will be happy and likely not bother anyone.

Nintendo isn't doing this just to be evil, guys. If the ROMhack doesn't affect them they literally couldn't give less of a shit whether it's released or not.

And of course they can't just outright say it's because the name is called pokemon prism and they don't want it to get confused with the actual pokemon prism, so they pull the "trademark" card.

>>30946626
It's a completely new region and story. It's basically just a new Pokemon game but using the gen 2 engine has a base. Had trainer customisation and new minigames and stuff too.

>>30946626
It was a custom region with new Gym Leaders, towns, items, etc. It had a lot of later-Gen Pokémon and music (mostly Sinnoh for the latter), and also had the custom region from Pokémon Brown (the creator's first hack) as postgame.

Prism is basically a sequel to Brown, and Brown is a very popular and well-known hack, pretty much one of the first full custom region hacks to exist. People have been waiting for Prism almost as long as Half-Life 3.

>>30946626

desu here and now, in 2016, when fan games and indie games are such a common thing it's probably no longer a huge deal. But in 2008 when it was first started it was a bigger deal since there were very few "full hacks" that changed everything and added new pokemon to older gens.

Nintendo are based desu.

>Spend 8 years making a game
>Get shut down less than a week before release

Attention seeking faggot shouldn't have announced a release date and just released it.

>>30946628
>And of course they can't just outright say it's because the name is called pokemon prism
They CAN, actually, and even do it behind the scenes so as not to leak sensitive info to the public, but that opens another can of worms legally.

If you're Nintendo, and you say "Look anon I don't like that you made Pokemon Prism because I have rights to Pokemon and *I* wanted to make Pokemon Prism", I can legally say "Okay, I'll change the name", and that's the end of it. You can't press further and you can't threaten me with legal action unless you want to open BRAND NEW legal procedures with brand new reasoning AND ALSO prove that this somehow came up between the time the last time this was settled and the point of legal procedure being started again.

It's way easier for a company to just say "Look just tear it down or we're going to pursue damages and shit" than it is to actually give reasoning.

>>30946695
Are the cries for the new pokemon updated or just the old placeholder cries ala ledyba cry on gardevoir?

>>30942948
That was NoA

They came back after sakurai told reggie about how much dosh they could with esports pandering in the west

warchamp7 killed ProjectM

>>30946724
All the cries are updated and correct.

>>30946740
>warchamp7 killed ProjectM
What? How?

>>30946724
They ripped the PCM audio playback feature from Pokémon Yellow (it was what allowed the Pikachu cries to exist in that game) and used it to play recordings of later-Gen cries, so the former.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysHsnMYNv7Y

You can hear the cries for multiple later-Gen Pokémon here, for example.

>>30941980
>pretendo
>"fan"
Its past your bed time, cody.

>>30938269
This is pretty much the truth, I guess.

>>30946771
by beeing a tranny sjw cuck

>>30940575
Not an argument!

Howe does this hurt their profits at all? SM has made them millions upon millions of dollars?

Why are they so greedy and hate fans this much?

>>30940145
Forgive me if i'm wrong, but doesn't subjective morality get thrown out of nearly every intellectual debate since it goes against general trends in morality in addition to making all morals worthless to begin with?

I have the IPS patch, where should I upload it? Never uploaded something before, is Mega okay? I don't want Nintendo ninjas to hunt me down or anything.

>>30938397
While this still means Nintendo can shut out shit whenever they feel, this was a great read for those who dunno if SupesCourt is okay with companies giving free passes to public usage.

and Lawyer Froganon needs to be around often when shit like this happens again

I think its time for shills to stop acting like armchair lawyers and stoping spouting the same 30 year old corporate lie over factual info.

>>30946959
Google Drive. Give it an inconspicuous name to be safe.

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>>30946959
Anywhere is okay. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll be fine uploading it, nobody is watching you.

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>>30946771
Dont listen to that other anon

Link explains everything:
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/30936477/#q30939646

>>30946959
See you after your smoke break.

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>>30947108
>http://www.wavedash.com/blog/2016/3/31/community-council-part-3-the-creators
>he's part of the Wavedash Games team
HE KILLED PM FOR THIS CRAP

FUCK YOUFUCK YOU
FUCK YOUFUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOUFUCK YOU
FUCK YOUFUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU

>>30947111
>>30947048
>>30947093
;^)

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>>30947108
Thanks for clearing up everything, anon.
>tfw I will still never not be angry about this faggot killing off an amazing project for some """indie"""shit

>>30946947
No? Academics still talk a lot about morality, they just try not to let it interfere where it's not needed.

>>30947177
>Platform fighters without the Nintendo fighters
Why do they even bother? Smash 4 players won't move from Smash 4 and you know Melee players won't move from Melee.

>>30947108
are you denying that he's a tranny sjw cuck?

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>>30947108
>head dev of project meme is LITERALLY chris chan
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>30947372
I hope he is actually

20XX was a better melee succesor anyways

>>30939835
and that's why gamefreak never stops pandering to johtoddlers, hoennbabies, sinnohfetuses, unovabortions and kalosperms.

>>30947306
They have the project m babbies and the group whos getting tired of melee or sakurai's bullshit with smash gameplay and its balancing

And the FGCucks who wants to see smash fucking off from fgc for good

>>30947558
I'm a Project M babby and I'm not going to touch the Wavedash Games shit. I like Project M because it's almost identical to Melee in gameplay from a casual perspective but with extra characters and stages, removing the Nintendo stuff from the game would make me lose interest in it.

Warchamp lurks on /v/ often btw

Dont let him know about the connections ive put together

Because he'll scrub all the tracks and puppet as a super sekret insider again to fool gullible reddit lurkers in /v/

Trust me, you can simply court all the fans who are angry with nintendo as of now and easy fool them with a lie from the actual truth.

Also, reddit whiteknights DC'ing for Warchamp and his cohorts

>>30947754
What? In what context? There's no point system for melee/pm besides smash ladder is there?

>>30947795
?

>>30947810
when you say "dc"ing, I'm thinking disconnect no?

>>30947845
"Damage controling" is what i meant by DC'ing

>>30947902
my b.

>>30947923
Aye

I don't know how we got onto PM but let me just say that Hugs is the greatest player of all time.

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>>30948015
>Hugs is the greatest player of all time.

>>30948015
My fondest memory was reading the posts m2k made about links grab being broken when the frames were well over 50+

>>30947238
You seem to misunderstand. I am saying the concept of SUBJECTIVE morality is usually discarded, not morality itself.

That is a pretty big difference.