>Stone Edge or Focus Blast for coverage

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>elemental fangs for "coverage"

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>Hidden Power for coverage

>>30932763
>hitting 5 types super effectively with 120 BP

RNG is RNG

>>30932763
>debuff the enemy with featherdance 3 threes
>tanking like crazy
>dies in one hit due to stone edge landing a critical
This is what it is usually like to fighting Fighting-type Pokemon with birds.

>Return for STAB

>>30932901
Normal stab is decent as long as the mon has okay coverage options.
>X-scissor for STAB

>>30932901
>102 base power move with no drawbacks

>>30932927
>X-scissor for STAB past Gen 6
FTFY

>>30932763
>>30932787
>>30932794
This is what Z moves are for.

>>30933342
>using Leech Life over X Scissor on Shedinja
wew lad

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>>30932881
>Wasting time with debuffs
>Not just Brave Birding them to death

>>30932763
I hate Focus Blast.

>>30932763
This is not a hit or miss decision, but a miss or miss decision :^)

>>30934254
You know Leech Life now has 80 BP, the same as X Scissor, and still restores half damage dealt, right?

>>30933722
Z Moves don't work on HP.

>>30938016
(You)

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>>30938016
>Shedinja sapped some health back with it's Leech Life!

>grass type
>only attacks are grass, bug and normal

>>30938016
Shedinja only has 1 HP.

>>30932881
>using debuffs
>ever

>>30932901
Except return is actually a good move.

>>30938105
does icy wind count as a debuff

>>30938148
Attacks that debuff as a secondary effect are fine. Status moves that just debuff are genreally useless though.

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>>30938062
W H Y

>>30938062
HO
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FUCK

every gen
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>>30932763
>>30932794
>Typhlosion has to rely on both Hidden Power and Focus Blast for coverage
Jesus Christ

>>30932881
>Bord used Brave Bord

Son

>>30933722
>Sacrifice item slot to get one time use basic coverage other mons get for free
Wow sounds great

>>30938229
Does it get smart strike at least? That could be something

>>30938249
>Still no earth power
JUST

>>30938371
Not even.

>>30938371
leavanny actually has a tight movepool

lilligant on the other hand...

>>30938470
At least Lilligant doesn't have TWO (2) quad weaknesses and dies to the lightest of SE damage.

>>30938564
Fiery Dance lilligant when? Would be pretty good. Also it's fucking dumb how few dance moves oricorio gets

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>it's a "poke that evolves from a stone and can't relearn prevo moves" episode

>>30938016
except on shedinja leech life will get you killed from a mon with liquid ooze so x-scissor is still better

>>30938631
>>30938085
>>30938048
>>30938041
I misread and thought we were talking about Ninjask

>>30938604
>Fiery Dance lilligant when?
Not before Meloetta, thats for sure

>>30938624
>its a pokemon evo knows moves that don't make sense anymore episode
mega kick dusknoir will reign supreme

>>30938394
>Earthpower isn't a TM yet
Seriously, SO many Sp.Att focused Pokemon would be way better if only they got the Special equivalent of Earthquake.

Also
>Focus Blast is the only Special based Fighting-type TM
Why are Special Attacks cucked so hard?

There is such a thing as too much coverage.

>>30938770
Earth power deserves to go to so many grass Pokémon.

>>30938604
I have a feeling they might buff Oricorio in the future.

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>Water type
>Get extensive Ice coverage

>Fire type
>Get no Electric coverage

>Grass type
>Get no Ground coverage, especially Earth Power

>>30932794
is that doggo using mud shot?

>>30938646
sure, m8.

Which Pokemon runs the largest coverage set up the most effectively?

I used to think it as Hydreigon.

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>>30939193
>Water types
>Better at inflicting burns than fire types

>>30932763
This guy would be solid OU if it had Roost and Focus Miss

>>30939417
wtf i hate gamefreak now

Can anyone explain to me why I can't use mega-beedrill in the Pokebank OU on showdown?

>>30939480
beedrill doesnt have its mega stone in SM, a number of pokemon dont sadly

>>30939480
Beedrillite isn't available in SM at the moment and can't be passed via bank so it's illegal

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>>30939193
>Fire's only coverage for water is Solarbeam

>>30939510
>>30939499
That's pretty poor form from GF

>>30939718
This isn't to say that they're never going to be available, all the mega stones that are unobtainable are for pokemon that are unobtainable in SM

Time to make a wishlist:

>Empoleon: Stone Edge, Roost, Focus Blast
>Lycanroc: Ice Fang, Earthquake
>Greninja: Knock Off
>Blastoise: Shell Smash, Recover
>Krookodile: Ice Fang, Elemental Punches
>Magnezone: Rock Polish/Agility

>>30939847
That's wrong. Just off the top of my head, you can buy Metagrossite, Sablenite and Salamencite at the Battle tree. Pretty sure you couldn't get those in S/M

>>30939999
Autotomize would be a more fitting move for Magnezone.

>>30940030
did you even complete your dex?

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>>30939713
>Water's coverage for Grass is Ice Bean and Ice Punch most of the time
>Fire's coverage for Water is Solar Beam
>Grass' coverage for Fire is Hidden Power Rock

Its not fair

>>30940074
>Ice Bean

>>30940030

But all these are in SM. Unless I'm being baited.

>>30940030
You can find all of those Pokemon in SM
Did you miss the whole craze over "Beast Ball Beldum" and "Level 10 Salamence"?

>>30939999
>Minior: Recover, Earth Power
>Salazzle: Ice Beam
>Whimsicott: Parting Shot

>>30939999
Dynamic punch on edge dog for actual No guard use

Also sick digits confirm

>>30939999

>Nihilego: Earth Power pls GF

>>30940214

>Whimsicott: Spore

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>>30940214
>Salazzle
>Ice Beam

>>30940264
tbf it needs something to deal with Dugtrio

>>30940285
True. I could see it getting Grass Knot

>>30939999
>Empoleon
>Roost, Focus Blast

Oh god, this so much. A specs set with Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Grass Knot, and Focus Miss would guarantee it in OU. Not to mention its defensive set with Roost.

>>30939999
>Greninja
consider suicide

>>30939999
>Togedemaru: Bullet Punch, Iron head

>>30940381
>implying a fat little ball can throw a quick punch

>>30940422
It uses itself as the fist, duh

>>30940315
It's retarded how it gets neither of those moves. Either way, its still a fantastic mon. If only it got a mega, then it could abuse the Agility set

>>30940519
Its much better defensively than it is offensively. A set with Scald, Focus Blast, Roost, and Defog is all it takes

>Electivire
>Very usable coverage movepool, includes EQ, Ice Punch
>Motor Drive is a decent ability, but not great on a pure Electric type
>didn't get Sheer Force or anything else, even Reckless to boost its physical attacks, let alone STAB
>bad bulk, useless SpA
>middling speed tier
>not strong enough to land important OHKO, 2HKO's
>not fast enough to run band or Life Orb
>no boosting moves. Not even Work Up or Curse

Reminder that Tapu Koko and Thundurus-I are the only electric types that can run a viable physical set

>Luxray is shit with shit coverage, requires status prediction + Scarf to be effective attack wise
>Zebstrika is even worse. Need to switch in on a fucking Grass attack
>Eelektross has Coil, but bad speed and no recovery, forcing it to run RestTalk

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>>30939999
>Celesteela
>Recover

>>30939480
I want someone to explain to me why Flygon doesn't have Dragon Dance while Peliper has Drizzle.

>>30942511
But Flygon has D-Dance now.
I know it might be sarcasm, but still

>>30942511
>he doesn't know that flygon got dd

>>30942539
But its not available in Showdown. Thats bullshit.

>>30932901
return is a good stab move baka

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>>30942129
Electivire's only counter in standard play is still Hippowdon

>>30942605
Prettier sure you can still play older metas anon

Nothing stopping you

>>30939999
>Delphox: ice beam, thunderbolt

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>>30939999
Give shuckle a actual recovery move. It really should have recover or synthesis.

>>30944393
>bug/rock-type
>Synthesis

Can't it learn rest though? Which, actually does help with it's insane defensive stats?

>>30944206
Also, in addition to this:
>Chesnaught: Giga drain, Meteor Mash, Iron Defense, Gyro Ball

Figured some good old 'cold iron' to add to the knight theme.