What the fuck even is the purpose of this thing
Based on its design and name this thing should boost Attack and Defense, not do what it fucking does
"Boosts Special Defense at the cost of not being able to use Status Moves"
Fuck off whit this cancer Gamefreak, fix your shit right now
>>30924392
>Things shouldn't have drawbacks to balance out its boons.
Explain
>>30924425
The only way to make things balanced is to have everything be overpowered, are you new to RPGs or some shit?
Why would it boost Attack? It protects the wearer from assaults, it doesn't aid them in assaulting.
>>30924442
And why is that?
OP bulletproof vests protect you from bullets they don't make you shoot bulletproofs.
>>30924392
Fuck off shitter.
>>30924392
You have to be at least 18 to post here
>>30924545
>shoot bulletproofs
>>30924392
>What the fuck even is the purpose of this thing
To be the ultimate noob bait item in the game.
The amount of shitters who think sticking AV on any mon is a good idea is astounding.
>>30924392
>Based on its design and name this thing should boost Attack and Defense
I wear a jacket now I can punch through walls?
>>30924661
Hi OP
>>30924679
This is the same game where wearing a headband makes a Pokemon stronger, and wearing a scarf makes them faster
Maybe you're not using it correctly.
Assault Vest goes best with Pokemon who can take a hit, hit back just as hard, all without requiring status moves. It's best if they have good natural physical bulk and just need to patch up their special defense. If they can also somehow get recovery, the better.
As you can see, the Assault Vest is really only useful for a select amount of Pokemon, but it makes a big difference on those Pokemon.
you are so fucking stupid, OP
>>30924392
>Assault Vests augment physical strength
>>30924730
Either this is a bait thread or you are just autistic enough to not get that not everything has to follow a set pattern
http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue35/assault-vest
>The select few Pokémon that should be holding Assault Vest are slow, bulky tanks that can afford to take a hit and dish out some major damage in return. These Pokémon should have a method of recovering their HP in the form of moves such as Drain Punch and Giga Drain, or the ability Regenerator to recover HP passively. If they can't do this, they can still get away with it if they have resistances to common special attacking types such as Water, Electric, Grass, Fire, Fairy, and Psychic (so not Rhyperior), all while not fitting or only minimally filling the qualities stated in the previous sections.
>>30924739
Vasically Assault Vest is the only thing that makes Goodra not the worst psuedo of all time. Nothing will fix Kommo-o's 85 base speed though.
>>30924739
>>30924789
oh shit
how'd I state exactly what Smogon said years ago
>>30924730
That's a headband? I thought it was like a wristband or something.
>>30924817
>Nothing will fix Kommo-o's 85 base speed though.
It gets Automatize and Rock Polish.
>>30924497
Then why not call it an anti-assault vest.
>>30925154
BECAUSE THAT'S A SHITTY NAME FOR IT
>>30924977
Honestly I think it would depend on the pokemon
>>30925154
>>30924497
An Assault Vest aids in the assault, it doesn't permit it or act against it.
>>30924977
Nips like wearing headbands, they do it in kamikaze attacks.
>>30925126
And its attack is too low to run that.
>>30925126
>Gen VII
>Speed buffs matter
Have fun against my 0 Speed IV Toxapek
Alright you shits, here's the criteria for assault vest users
-High HP with passable sp.def is worth more than low HP with high sp.def
-Movepool that consists of attacks that offer utility, recovery, priority or pivoting. (rapid spin, drain punch/leech life, dragon tail, bullet punch/aqua jet, u-turn/volt-switch)
-Abilities that offer sustainability or immunities, (regenerator, sap sipper, lightning rod, guts)
When using assault vest your aim is to tank attacks you would usually not be able to take, and hit back. You can act as a bulky pivot if you have recovery.
>>30925364
Ass Vest Careful Regirock with drain punch in a sandstorm?
>>30925246
So you never heard of Double Dance?
Automatize + Z-Drum can sweep teams when pulled off.
>>30924392
I thought it boosted defense and special df.
>>30925364
Incinceroar?
>>30924817
AV Goodra is one of the best specially defensive walls, especially since ice beam and dazzling gleam/moonblast will take a 1/3 of it's HP at most.
>>30925702
no, kill yourself
>>30924817
you know what would fix its speed? Shell smash
>>30925440
*when pulled off
Which it isn't.
>>30925364
Goodra is the only good Assault Vest user.
>>30925757
Yeah and goodra is f.e.male only as well too
Bugger off if you don't know anything
>>30925731
>White Herb + Shell Smash on a Kommo-O
You are a fucking madman
>>30924392
Assvest is GOAT on ttar
>>30924392
>>30925154
>Based on its design and name this thing should boost Attack and Defense, not do what it fucking does
>"Boosts Special Defense at the cost of not being able to use Status Moves"
Maybe it's called like that because if you used it then you're only gonna attack, thus you wear it if you're planning on assaulting only.
To make you rage then post on vp
>>30925702
Once it gets Intimidate, probably.
>>30925757
Rhyperior, Tangrowth, Gallade(megastone is better though), Escaviler, Ttar, etc.
>>30925364
Buzzwole
>>30926206
assault vest leech life Buzzwole!
too bad it doesnt cover flying attacks, which are mostly physical.
Assault vest leech life Buzzwole + Accelerock Lycanrock?
>>30925757
>what is Conkeldurr
>what is Tangrowth
>>30926282
Considering they're both UU at best, why not.
Who am I kidding Lycanroc is probably RU.
>>30926282
It does get Ice Punch and Thunderpunch to mess with them, and enough physical Bulk to hold fast against their attacks.
Give it some Sneaky Sediments to help net KOs on those punches, and that Beast Boost buffing its Atk for stronger Leech Life on non-fliers will easily patch it up.
>>30925216
It IS assisting in the assault. You put in on something semi tanky and give it 4 attacks. That's an assault.
>>30925702
I'm breeding one for vgc right now to pair with a trick room setter. Fake out, darkest lariat/crunch/eq, flare blitz, u- turn/leech life, either impish or brave with and assault vest. We'll see how that goes
>>30925154
Why don't they call it an anti-winter coat?
>>30926340
I'll rather just wait until Intimidate becomes legal. Weakening physical attackers upon entry sounds too useful.
>>30925154
because you don't wear it to ward off assaults
in an assault you are engaging an enemy in closer combat than normal and need to protect yourself from injury without impairing mobility
since an assault is meant to be a decisive attack, it makes sense to forgo status moves since the ultimate goal is to just knock them out
Do you seethe in fury at the fact that we don't call rain coats "anti-water coats"?
>>30925757
>escavalier
>mudsdale
>bouffalant
>a million others
>>30926282
i run mine with power-up punch as well. beast boost does defense for me so its just a bulky punch buggy
>>30926504
Now pair that with my designs already and you have a pretty good vgc mon
>>30925757
Golisopod
>>30926784
As much as I wish I could run a Life Orb on this guy, Assvest makes it a fantastic Greninja check.
>>30924817
>>30925126
Kommo-o already gets Dragon Dance, its speed is honestly fine. It's already faster than Dragonite and (Mega) Gyarados, both of which are exemplary Dragon Dancers. What it truly lacks is power, especially a strong physical Fighting STAB. Nigga NEEDS Close Combat or someshit.Or just Drain Punch if you want to try an Assault Vest set for funzies. No DD on that, obviously.
>>30924661
Its not a fucking noob trap item. Its actually one of the better items you can get but only a select handful of pokemon can use it to its fullest potential. I.e. tanks with draining moves.
>>30925702
Once it gets intimidate, yes. It'll be one of the best assault vest users in the game most likely. But until then, you'll have to make due with blaze. I'm running an ass vest Incineroar myself and it helped me get to battle 50 in the battle tree it was so tanky.