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GF dropped the ball on a ton of new Pokemon, so let's give them a few changes to make them better.
Hard mode: No +100 BST/Huge Power bullshit
God mode: Make it fit thematically

>Turtonator
>amazing offensive and defensive typing
>too slow/weak and no recovery to take any advantage of either
Let's give it base 56 speed (up from 36) so it can outpace scarf Lando and Pheromosa at +2
Also, let's give it Lava Plume and Slack off so it can work a defensive role as well.
There, 3 realistic changes and it's immediately much better.
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shameless bump
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>Vikavolt
>Badass design.
>Amazing Sp. Atk with a fairly good Type combo.
>Way too slow.

Let me see...

+20 in Speed, ramping it up to 63, meaning that it could outspeed Mega Alakazam at +2.
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>Comfey
>Better Defense and Sp. Defense than Clefairy
>Triage and Natural Cure are pretty good
>Fairy type is a good type
>Not very much HP

Give it +30 HP
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shiinotic
+20 hp
replace rain dish with poison heal
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Shave off twenty from it's HP and 10-15 off of each defense, and put that into speed.
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>>30901062
Are you implying Comfey needs help? The only thing keeping it in check is Psychic Terrain.
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Give it Sturdy.
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Swap it's Attack and Defense, and give it U-Turn
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>Abysmal defensive type and speed
>Amazing offensive type with no opportunity to use it
>Weaker stats than Conkeldurr and no recovery
>No priority despite dex entry about firing off its claws

Fur Coat instead of Anger Point
Drain Punch
Mach Punch, Ice Shard and Bullet Punch
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>>30901958
>Wimpod's attacking animation is literally an u-turn
>Doesn't get u-turn
What the fuck GF
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If they want to keep the shitmon stats at least give it Chlorophyl or fucking buff Leaf Guard IT'S BEEN A SHIT ABILITY SINCE GEN FUCKING FOUR WHY DOES IT EVEN FUCKING EXIST I AM MAD.
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>learns Shadow Bone at level 28 when it evolves instead of level 27 BEFORE it evolves

I know he's already good, but that shit has been driving me insane
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>>30901958
Just give it a normal ability.
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>>30902014
Being fair, that's just a main game thing.
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>>30900594
>Slack off
Fuck off
That ability is reserved for pokemon with good designs
If you give that ugly turtle Slack Off, what's stopping you from giving it to every other pokemon?
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>>30901897
or just make it part dark
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>>30901062
>leech seed doesn't get priority with Triage
PU
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>>30902071
>Slaking
>good design

good joke
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>>30901958
I liked the idea where it switches out the opponent's pokemon when it hits them below half health
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>>30902129
Compared to Turdonator, Slaking is Dragonair.
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>>30902176
There is literally nothing wrong with Turtonator's design. Sounds like you have a terminal case of autism and bad taste.
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>>30902198
>There is literally nothing wrong with Turtonator's design
Except for literally everything.
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>>30902078
And give it even MORE of a fighting weakness? Nah.
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>>30902071
first off slack off is a move you dolt, second, slack off's distribution is wonky as hell, as mother fucking chimchar of all things can get it
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>>30902084
That wouldn't change much.
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>>30902213
I'd ask you to explain yourself but I know you can't.

In before
>"that [feature]"
>without actually explaining why it's bad
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Fighting sub-type
Chlorophyll replaces Leaf Guard (STOP GIVING POKEMON THIS ABILITY IT'S FUCKING TRASH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A SINGLE SWIFT SWIMMER OR CHLOROPHYLL USER SINCE GEN 5.)
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>>30902235
>implying using a move isn't an ability itself
>implying the Chimchar line isn't the only well designed fire starter line

GOOD DESIGNS ONLY
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>>30902235
Monkeys slack off. Also it only gets it by holding off its Infernape evolution, thereby "slacking off" in its progress.
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Emergency Exit activates after user has made their move.

Did I fix Golisopod?
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Swap Def and Special Def.
Give it Scald
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>>30902279

All it really needs is for it's ability to give water immunity
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>>30902264
>Also it only gets it by holding off its Infernape evolution, thereby "slacking off" in its progress.
Gen 4 truly was a masterpiece of art.
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Take away 75 from both its defenses and put that into HP
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>>30901897
100% acc Stone Edge is rad, it should get other moves like DynamicPuch to truly make use of NoGuard
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>>30902279
Just make it Water Ground instead.

Ghost is a dumb meme type, on the same level with Dragon and Bug.

Thank God based Fairy type came along and shat on the latter two.
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>>30902310
that would honestly be too good
with max HP investment, pykukumuku already has HP higher than most offensive EVd mons
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>>30902299
Oh, right. I still can't accept that it doesn't and keep switching it on Water attacks.
I still prefer it having more Special Defense.
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>>30902330
Why else do you think I chose the "Delet this" Pyukumuku picture?
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>>30902215
STAB crunch and sucker punch u nig
its not like its relying on its 85/75/75 "bulk" to live focus blasts and close combats
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>>30901965
fur coat would have made so much so much fucking sense on crabominable
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78/117/75/60/90/110
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Give him recover and season 4
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>>30902279
>>30902439
just wait for the rocks :)
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>>30902413
>Owlfags are still trying to force this faggot as a base 110 speed physical sweeper.

Just fuck off already.

The owl is fine, just because it isn't an ultra speedy sweeper doesn't mean it needs to be altered.
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>>30902009
like
>HA is contrary
>only one usable contrary move

why
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>>30902466
Mixed attackers are trash, I hate the mixed attacker meme and GF needs to stop making them.

>LE MEGA FUG
780 BST makes anything good.

Shit like Silvally and Guzzlord shows even with a 570 BST you can make liquid shit
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>>30902439
nerd
>doubles
>assault vest
>comfey as a partner
>heavy slam/high horsepower/rock slide/whatever

sweep the stables, pardner
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100 across the board instead of 95.

Now lets give it an actual movepool because apparently Gamefreak thought it would be a good idea to give the bootleg arceus a terrible movepool. How about Earthquake, Recover, Play Rough, Wing Attack, Head Smash give this to Type: Null as well, Stone Edge, Superpower, Volt Switch, Outrage, Wild Charge, Quick Attack, Will-o-Wisp, Defog
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Gumshoes gets Disguise, Alolan Raticate gets Infiltrator.

This won't actually fix them, but I thought it'd be nice and thematic for them.
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>>30902503
Most Pokemon aren't designed with their stats min-maxed to fit the meta - and those that are are either borderline broken or have limited move-sets to compensate.

Mixed stats just means options, you can build physical, special or something in-between.

Christ anon Decidueye is base 70 Speed with decent special bulk and a pretty solid move-pool utility-wise. It's fine, we don't need another mix/max speedy set-up sweeper, we have quite enough already.
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>>30902543
well in gumshoos case, the only set I could come up with was to yawn to try and force a switch and then use a stab stakeout boosted thrash or crunch, but it has mediorcre bulk to survive hits so you'd have to give it a focus sash making its gimmick only work once, just give him more defenses (10 or 20 to both) and you could probably swing it. Just take the points from speed since part of its theme is
patience
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>>30901897
Or Head Smash.
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>>30902310
It just needs scald, honestly.
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>>30902503
>>30902571
you're both wrong

he's wrong because mixed attackers can be plenty good. see Pheromosa.

you're wrong because mixed attack stats are fucking worthless on Decidueye with his type and movepool.
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>>30902541
>a million moves for no reason
Just give it extremespeed anon.
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>>30902664
Might as well give it Bide and a physical Future Sight for its patience then. It really doesn't learn anything on its own that suggests its patient besides Yawn, and it probably got that just because of being diurnal.
What it could really use besides more bulk is priority.
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>>30902543
I really don't understand why gumshoos doesn't get ice fang fire fang and thunder fang
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>Silvally
>Stats go from all 95 to all 105
>Give it Earthquake and Extremespeed
>Give it Judgement to fit the theme of an Arceus clone & for people who want to run a special set
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>>30902845
Game Freak wanted to make it as bad as Raticate. That's why they have the same BST.
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Add like 15-20 HP and give synthesis.
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>>30902664
Gumshoos is a mess altogether.

No Elemental Fangs for Strong Jaw synergy
Too weak to force out switches
Adaptability on a fucking mono-normal, meaning no boosted SE hits, and no power or options like porygon to make up for it. No priority, not even fucking Giga Impact, just a dumb Z-Last Resort meme.
And of course no Pickup and no HMs so it can't justify a shitmon critter slot on your team.

Gumshoos fucking sucks
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90 HP / 74 Atk / 80 Def / 126 SpA / 116 SpD / 80 Spe and Sparkling Aria now does extra damage to burned Pokemon and no damage to party members.
I have no idea how to play competitively but this looks pretty good to me. Give it acces to recovery moves too.
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GIVE IT FUCKING ICE SHARD AND MACH PUNCH SO IT DOESN'T GET INSTANTLY FUCKED WITH ITS RIDICULOUSLY SLOW BASE 43 SPEED YOU GODDAMN DOUCHEBAGS

For fucks sake, I seriously want to find out who was in charge for some of the movepools in this fucking game because it is absolutely insane how goddamn shit most of them are
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>>30903040
Of course shitty 4chan would eat my picture as well

FUCK YOU JAP MOOT
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>>30900594
>Literally every Gen 7 pokemon
>Either give it an evolution or make it faster
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>>30901897
>>30902078
These. And why the fuck was the faster form the one to get Accelerock? Midnight form can't even make Counter work with those shitty defenses and shitty defensive typing.
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Now learns Drain Punch, Close Combat, Aura Sphere and Vacuum Wave
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>>30903162
They both should have gotten new moves. Midday can keep Accelrock since its the super speedy doggo and Midnight should have gotten a stronger Rock version of Sucker Punch. Or I mean shit at least give it Head Smash. It's Dex entry says it even gives fucking headbutts WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THESE FUCKING MOVEPOOLS
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>>30902246

turtonator looks fucking stupid. If you can't see that you're blind.
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>>30903226
The guy who took Shell Smash away from Kommo-o but forgot about it in Battle Tree.
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+13 Atk
Change its type to Rock/Ground and give it Earthquake.
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