Battle Tree General

If I inject a pokemon with a Mega Stone that shouldn't be available (e.g. Lopunny, Heracross), how long will it take until the AI starts using showderp-tier counter sets?

I heard Muk-A is pretty alright for BT, what sets are you guys running?

Nothing unfortunate but

G3TG-WWWW-WWW3-74GQ

Squishy fails to live up to it's name.

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>scout mallow with a scarfed tsareena and rocky helmet toucannon
>think i lucked out
>literally can not stop using hjk
>even on enemies that resist it
Who am I supposed to scout for?

>>30894867
Are you having a stroke, anon?
It can be pretty BS sometimes, yeah.

>>30894867
not that bad, but it does have some bullshit moments

>>30894892
am mssng kys fr my kybard

>>30893853
All the sets are pre-made.

>>30894892
try an on-screen keyboard?

>>30894931
Yeah that's a good idea. I'm on my phone now. My keyboard broke earlier tonight.

I need to take another shot at that 50 winstreak but all these horror stories I'm hearing about it have me worried.

Considering going in with a hail team once I have a Slush Rush Sandslash. Already got a Snow Warning Ninetales. Any recommendations for a third/is this a terrible idea?

>>30895000
Air Balloon Heatran if it's obtainable?
Mega Salamence?
Something to tank fire, steel and ground type moves.

>>30895000
Steel and Fire types will fuck you up.
I suggest Mega Salamence or Garchomp

>>30895000
You're going to get fucked by the AI counterpicking.
A-Ninetales is okay support, but running A-Sandslash with it is going to make almost every single enemy carry fire moves.

I've gotten to 20-30 wins in Super Singles with my M-Gengar, Z-Incineroar, and Flame Orb/Guts Hariyama but I'm almost always getting shut down by Earthquake users.

Any advice Battle Tree dudes? Should I switch out items or replace one of the Pokemon?

>>30895164
Then get an Earthquake absorber.
Normally, I'd say M-Salamence, but you already have a Mega.
How about Celesteela?

>>30895013
>>30895021
>>30895027
So that's an "aye" on it being a terrible idea then, haha.

I do have a 5IV Bagon sitting in my box waiting to be trained so if I fuck up I'll grab a stone for Salamence. Got a Garchomp good to go though so I'll try that. Cheers for the advice, anons!

I'm also considering something with Sturdy just because OHKO hax sounds scary for later stages in the streak.

>>30895177

Ugh, I'd really hate to have to rely on the Tapus or UB's to beat Battle Tree. I've prided myself on never using a legendary to get all the trophies for Battle Maison.

I wonder if it just wouldn't be better to use regular old Gengar with Nasty Plot and an Air Balloon....

>>30895202
>I'd really hate to have to rely on the Tapus and UB's to beat Battle Tree
>Uses Megas

>>30894863
Scarf'd Eruption users are the most predictable, so they have the least likelihood of doing something that'll end a run.

>>30895279
Are you ok anon?

>>30895184

Focus Sash also works, just be mindful of the AI counter-picking again with priority moves and Stealth Rock. Tsareena/Bruxish/Lele can get a free switch on the priority move, so they tend to be good partners for Sturdy/Sash users. A Ghost type can also switch in on Quick Attack or Mach Punch, and Chandelure also has Flash Fire, so that's also an option for a team that fire weak.

Although, I think A-Ninetails does a bit better in Doubles than singles. You can send out both a weather-setter and weather-abuser at the same time, and Aurora Veil has more value when covering multiple mons at the same time. Garchomp is still a pretty decent team-mate, and a flyer as a 4th option should cover the fighting weakness and avoid Garchomp's EQ spam.

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>Got stopped by a Manectric
>All because it avoided Bullet Punch and mauled it with Overheat
>Primarina's Sing was avoided, killed by Discharge
>Wide Lens Pheremosa misses High Jump Kick
>Dies to Overheat
I didn't even fucking touch the damn thing.
Should I switch out the roach for Garchomp? Covers Primarina and Scizor for Electric and Fire.

>>30895324
>sing
Why would you use something that unreliable?

>>30895340
I usually have Normalium Z for memes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXxg1mpqEa0

Someone asked for proof of Battle Tree using a Shell Smash Kommo-o.

>>30895440
it's ok, it is a move tutor in Stars and he just traded it back.

>>30895311
Hrm. Well I was looking for an excuse to train a Tsareena so this might be it. Though my Lele is already good to go and will probably help shut down Stall Umbreon Youngster if I run into him again.

Might try Chomp, Tsareena/Lele and a Sturdy/Sash user for singles maybe. Shouldn't be too hard to get a team together. I'll keep Hail abuse in mind for Doubles if I attempt that.

BZ5W-WWWW-WWW3-77T8

Can someone explain why this Cresselia gets hit by Earthquake?

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>Using Mimikyu, Toxapex and Megamence
>Opponent has 3 epecial electric types so I can't toxic stall with toxapex.
>crits everywhere so I only have toxapex left but manage to bring down enemy to his last pokemon rotom heat.
>Last scald should have killed it but it survives with like 1 hp because it ate a shitty ass passho berry.

Do you think switching the team every 10 battles actually works?

>>30895449
>the AI gets to play Stars before we do
Gamefreak??

>haven't played pokemon in ages (last one was heart gold)
>never really cared about the competitive aspect
>decide to give the battle tree a shot because I just filled my pokedex and I want the other stamps
>start hearing about the horror stories
>don't even know how to being to set up a team

So, after I set my sights on a team I want to use, I should breed for IVs, train for EVs and then try my luck?

Is there any set I should aim for? Like a point/lead pokemon that's good at dealing with everything, a tank/sponge to stop my team from getting murderer and a sweeper to kill their stuff?

I was thinking about something like Bewear or Aegislash for "tank" and Mega Lucario for dealing damage, though I have no idea of what to use as a lead

Finally managed to break 50 on Super single.

The battle against Red was really in my favor though.

Ninetales against Lapras. I use Aurora Veil and he switches out for fucking Mega Venusaur.
Then my Blizzard freezes him. The 2nd time in all those 50 matches that I managed to freeze something.
Then a PHYSICAL Charizard comes in and I switch to M-Salamence. With Intiminate and Aurora Veil I was able to DD trice and roost for full HP, just to be sure.

>>30895890
I use Golisopod as a lead, and he's only failed me maybe two or three times.
Sometimes I use Minior as well, AI is retarded and keeps trying to inflict status while its shields are up.

Is the AI smart enough to deal with goofy stuff like Red Card Mimikyu?

>>30896006
>smart
Not really.
>bs
Yes, you'll probably encounter stuff with Mold Breaker for no good reason.

>>30896006
Nope. The AI does stupid shit like repeatedly using Pain Split while your mon's using a Substitute, for instance

>>30896064
>>30896095
So it's dumb, but it likes to set itself up for a victory? I suppose RNG-reliant sets like Swagger Klefki aren't viable, then

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>>30895440
>Kommo-o uses Shell Smash
>cat starts complaining in the background

Competitive Pokemon cat ain't having none of that bullshit.

>>30896243
>RNG-reliant sets aren't viable
You have to consider, that you only need to fail once in 50 battles for everything to be over.
Your enemy only has to win once.
I once got hit twice in a row by Guillotine and it probely would have hit a third time if it wasn't for
Mimikyu.

You shouldn't have a move below 90% accuracy either.

Does that website that adds up your team's weaknesses still exist? I don't remember the url

>>30896406
https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/

>>30896370
Oh well, my dreams of memeing with Swagger are dead. Thanks for the warning, though

If I bring something like Moody Shell Smash/Baton Pass/Spore/Substitute Smeargle to the Tree what are the chances of facing nothing but Taunt Grass pokes first turn?

How far will I get?

Salamence (M) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Claw
- Steel Wing
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance

Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Aura Sphere
- Flash Cannon
- Extreme Speed
- Drain Punch

Froslass (F) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp
- Draining Kiss
- Ice Beam

>>30896900
Am I blind or did you put 252 Special Attack EVs on a Salamence with no special moves.

>>30896900

you should stick a megastone on either luke or salamence

>>30896929
>>30896945

Don't know why that happened with Salamence but it's Attack.

Also, I don't have any Megastones yet.

Just started up on Battle Tree this morning and this shit sucks with no proper items. Feels like it'll take forever to grind out the couple hundred BP to get a good collection of hold items.

Just beat singles with this team, what should I change for super singles?

Tapu Bulu @ Miracle Seed
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Horn Leech
- Wood Hammer
- Superpower
- Megahorn

Golisopod @ Silverpowder
Ability: Emergency Exit
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- First Impression
- Aqua Jet
- Sucker Punch
- Leech Life

Mimikyu @ Red Card
Not sure about the nature or EVs because it's from my ingame team
-Shadow Sneak
-Play Rough
-Swords Dance
-Leech Life

I'm planning on buying Assault Vest for Golisopod and Choice Band for Bulu.

>>30893819
I'm going fucking insane with multi battles
I've scouted tons of Battle Legends and random NPCs with good Pokemon
But the cheating bastards always manage to pull a team to perfectly counter us half way through
I'm about to choke a bitch

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Holy shit this was a close call.

LN3G-WWWW-WWW3-7HC2

And only round 19 no less.

>>30895514
It does
And actually that's what you should do

>Opponent's Quick Claw let it move first

FUCK. YOU.

>1 month later
>People stilllosevs the battle tree

>>30898271
>Opponent's Pokemon hung on to it's focus sash
Fuck this fucking item

>>30898296
wat

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>>30898296
What?

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Idk if this is the thread for it, but is this a good team? What should I add/remove? I'm new to teambuilding.

>>30898364
Why do you have 5 entries?
Choose 3 or 4 before we can judge.

I really think I'll never get the Tree stamps, shit's just too impossible.

I'm currently using my bros Decidueye, Garchomp and Mimikyu.
The other bros at my team are Vivavolt, Starmie (it exists mainly for Rapid Spin but has a strong Psychic too) and Minior.

>>30898405
No

>>30898429
Dude you must be over 18 to post here.
Go finish your milk or something.

>>30898443
U mad

>>30898428
>using your bros
That's the problem.

Use 1 bro and 2 mons that balance the team with that bro in mind.

>>30898490
Fuck you.

My temporary team until I can be bothered catching a good Ditto to breed with.

Silvally @ Darkinium Z
Ability: RKS System
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Return
- Fire Fang
- Crunch
- Parting Shot

Tapu Koko @ Life Orb
Ability: Electric Surge
Level: 50
EVs: 6 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Dazzling Gleam
- Brave Bird
- U-turn

Tapu Lele @ Expert Belt
Ability: Psychic Surge
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball

It's not bad, when I get enough BP to grab a Scarf and Specs I think I'll consider those on Lele.

My team revolves around scouting with Silvally then Parting Shot/revenge killing with the better suited Tapu.

>>30898510
He's just giving you advice. Either take it or never get your stamp.

>>30898510
Get some common sense. You put two Ghosts on your team.

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>enemy Gengar
>outspeeds Tapu Lele
>Hypnosis
>it hits
>switch out for Megamence
>Dream Eater fails
>Earthquake
>Gengar hangs on with his Focus Sash
>Hypnosis
>It hits
>Switch out for Porygon-Z
>Nightmare fails
>Outspeeds me with Hypnosis
>it hits
>entire team asleep

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>enemy Bronzong survives Tbolt from both Tapu Koko and Xurkitree
>uses trick room
>use protect on both Koko and Xurkitree to stall out trick room
>Bronzong uses trick room again
>speed back to normal
>Koko and Xurkitree sweep

The AI sure is dumb sometimes

>AV Buzzwole tanks a Gengar Shadow Ball, Pidgeot Aerial Ace, and Noivern Boomburst all in a row with only 1 HP of healing from Leech Life
Holy fuck I love this thing so much.

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I just unlocked Super Singles. What am I in for?

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Sometimes the game makes really poor choices when it comes to putting the right trainers against you.

>Do almost nothing but spam Psychic with Specs Top Lele for 9 matches
>game puts me against Mallow
>kill her entire team by spamming Psychic

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>38
>super singles
>entire team designed to counter mine
>focus sash, sitrus berry and quick claw on their mons
>3 crits in a row

>>30898809

Fun until the game decides the fun should stop and puts you against a brightpowder para confuse hax taunt Sableye that dodges ten 100% accuracy attacks in a row

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So are the horror stories of Battle Tree Teams true?
How meta do i have to go to stand a chance?

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>doing great in super doubles
>34
>scarf aerodactyl with rock slide
>six flinches in a row
>last mon
>no flinch, crit instead

>>30899176
Very meta

If you go in with your random IV/EV team from the main story, you will get fucked once you get to the super battles.

>>30899176
>So are the horror stories of Battle Tree Teams true?
It's been like this for all the battle facilities in every game. Eventually you're just going to get fucked due to RNG.

>How meta do i have to go to stand a chance?
If you're using random EV/IV pokemon you might be able to beat the normal battles, but once you get to the Super Battles you're most likely going to get immediately fucked.

>>30899176
Not even the best teams that kicked ass at VGC can save you here
Saying you depend on luck is an understatement
You have to pray to 10 different deities all at once if you wanna get to 50 battles straight

>>30899211

I ran into one of those last night in super singles. KO's my first two mons but Toxapex was able to tank enough hits and avoid enough flinches to PP stall it out until it struggled to death.

Just a random question out here.
You think a Choice Band Flareon is going to do any good?
I'm going to use it anyway eventually if RNGesus gives me that sixth perfect IV but i just want to know if i should have any hope for it.

The worst thing you can get matched to is Wally's Magnezone. Good fucking luck if you get the Brightpowder Magnet Pull one with Charge Beam, Flash Cannon, and Magnet Rise.

Every single move I went for missed as it boosted up. I got so mad at the last miss I shut off my 3DS and didn't touch it for days.

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I got to battle 39 before getting fucked by Colress because I didn't realize how Steel Weak my team was. I was relying on Follow Me Clefable, but I didn't have a set up sweeper, just Ash-Greninja. (He's so good BTW. That Water Shuriken saved my ass so many times). Guess I should rebalance my team so I don't get fucked again. Any sweeper suggestions?

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>Wally sends out Garchomp

Why do you even have that

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>>30899447
He uses one in ORAS.

>>30899176

Not at all, just blame any and all loses on RNG and the AI working against you.

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>Smogonsword vs Wally's Altaria
>last mon vs last mon
>smogonsword is almost dead because of his previous mons
>Altaria used sing
>forced to watch as Wally slowly starts killing my Smogonsword with weak moonblasts
>wake up once and deal a bit of damage with Shadow Ball
>get the SpDef drop
>use king's shield and get put back to sleep
>down to 17 health
>Altaria suddenly decides to use Cotton Guard instead of attacking
>actually wake up and use Shadow Ball
>it's almost dead
>I can't do anything but use Shadow Sneak now or I risk getting put right back to sleep
>I have no attack boosts so shadow sneak is pretty weak
>Shadow Sneak crits and I win

Good things can happen sometimes.

>>30899176
Megas, Z Moves, UBs, Tapus

Cheat. You have to be as cheap and shitty as possible.

Smogonsword also helps.

>>30899211
Every time I see an Aerodactyl my anus clenches.

>>30899762
It's okay anon, you don't have to lie to us.

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>mfw taunting a toxistall mon

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>>30899857
8PGW-WWWW-WWW3-7L4R

I should have so lost this because I thought I could muscle through without switching but the game had other plans.

Skip to turn 8 if you want to see a sword asleep forever.

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what moves should i run on my bold regen toxapex?

I'm thinking scald/recover/toxic/banefulbunker or protect or venoshock

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>>30900060
>no haze

Confuse Ray spam is ridiculous

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>>30900130
run taunt

>>30893819
Will Beat Up/Justified do it for Doubles?

>>30900076
For what purpose thougj

Anyone got an offensive Set for Arcanine? With overheat and extreme speed

>>30900060
If you're going to consider Baneful Bunker, don't bother considering Protect. There's really no reason.

Guys
I just had my very first Battle Tree match

It was an all Ice team;
the enemy Glaceon, in 4 turns had
>3 Brightpowder dodges
>2 Quick Claw procs
>2 Blizzard freezes

And I just so happened to be leading with Snow Warning A Ninetales so it could Blizzard for free, when my Blizzard weren't effective

I thought you all were joking
What is this
What IS this

I've yet to do any battle tree stuff. Do I need perfect IV and EV trained 'mons to do well?

>>30900933
Normal battles can be won with your random ingame team.

Super Battles require you to have a team with good IV/EV and items if you don't want to get messed up by everything right away.

>>30900933
Just use UBs lol.

>>30898429
>>30898463
This isn't me.

Sorry I meant the team as a whole, not just for the tree here >>30898364

I think Battle Tree is giving me Rotom PTSD.

>>30901414
>Rotom used Thunder Wave
>Your Bro is paralized and couldn't move
>Rotom used Confuse Ray
>GG

Kinda wish Guzuma and Plumeria kept their battle themes, and that the battle theme you could choose didn't override all the unique themes.

>>30893819
Hello what is everyone's best streaks

Post 'em

I just got to the Battle Tree right now and my current streak is 3 lol

>>30901668

29. lost to cynthia. :(

>>30898568
>Its just a 60% chance dude xDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>30901712
damn, unlucky
whats your team

>>30901764

Mega DD Gyarados, Swords Dance Mimikyu, and Weakness policy Metagross.

>>30901668
140 Super Singles up from 110, calling it a day
50 Super Doubles
50 Super Multi

Just wanted to be done with the last two formats.

>>30901668
45. Scarf Pinsir hit three Guillotines in a row.

>>30893819

Battle Tree, also known as
>thunder wave every one of my pokemon lol

Mimikyu got paralyzed three times in a row and lost against a fucking Dragonite

Battle Tree is pure cancer, almost worse than competitive

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>Try lead with primarina for once
>Everything is Punk girls, Punk guys, and janitors
>still can't manage to kill her

I know this shit is gonna get worse so when do they start using megas in super singles?

>>30902051
I remember seeing a Mega Camerupt at 25 at earliest. Starting from 31 is the OP Megas like Mega Mawile.

But of course, every 10 games you get matched to a character from story mode who can have a Mega.

>>30902051
They sometimes use them in the 20s but it really picks up in the 30s. 40s is when you see minor legendaries like Zapdos and Heatran

>>30893819
Hey guys

This is my team:
Bewear
Mimikyu
Decidueye
Alolan Muk
Slowbro
Vikavolt

Typical sets.
Which three mons do you recommend I should start a new streak with?

I want to get at least 50

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>driftblim appears...again
>stockpile like usual
>ominous wind ALWAYS increases all stats on first attempt
>baton passes

Every damn time I swear

How do you get Anabel to appear in the Battle Tree?

After you catch Guzzlord and report it, is she supposed to start appearing in the Tree or am I missing something?

>>30902144
Mimikyu
Alolan Muk
Slowbro (put a mega stone on him)

>>30901668

I got to 34 with my team of Golisopod, Megamence, and Nihilego. I forgot exactly how it went down, but i let Salamence eat an Ice attack early on. I really need to get a fire attack on my team, but I'm pressed for slots as it is.

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>enemy Dugtrio used Fissure!
>missed

>>30902203
Some are version exclusives. For example Plumeria only appears in Sun while Guzma is only in Moon. I think Anabel is a Moon exclusive.

>>30902371
What do you have on salamence?
Flamethrower/double edge/earthquake/Brick break for me

>>30901668
20 in singles

Haven't tried Super Singles yet

>>30902412
Serebii and other sites said it's only
Sun: Plumeria, Sina, Kiawe
Moon: Guzma, Dexio, Mallow

Is there somewhere you're supposed to meet Anabel after Guzzlord or something to really finish the UB quest to have her appear? She's the only one I haven't seen yet (I have Sun).

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F2CW-WWWW-WWW3-5WZE

>>30901668
17 in super singles with Primarina, Tapu koko and Lycanroc night. No earthquake did me in but I'm not mad since I finally got enough for a salamencite

I'm running Porygon-Z with ghost-conversion, and probably also going to run Alola-Ninetales with aurora veil
what else should I use? I can't decide.

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I am making one last attempt at super singles with no legends or old pokemon. If this fails I'm saying fuck it and using UBs.

Wish me luck.

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>tfw want to team up with Cynthia
>tfw she has both surf and earthquake and does not hesitate to use them both even if it hits you

>>30903061
A back-up sweeper that doesn't need to set-up to be a threat. Something that doesn't compound your weaknesses too much (fighting, steel, fire, rock.) Mega Salamence is always a good pick, but then your team is essentially soloed by Tyranitar. Garchomp is a pretty solid choice.

Finally got my 50 singles wins. Time to hop on the doubles train.

>Try Battle Royale
>Absurdly long fucking starting cutscene
>Everything lags
>Damp Kingdra/Politoed in every single match because I am trying to meme it with Explosion so obviously counterpick the moment I start trying
>All three enemies just focus me despite the fact this is quite obviously complete fucking bullshit any competent programmer would have made impossible the moment they were asked to program AI for this mode
>YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE ALL THREE OPPONENTS GANG UP ON YOUR FULL HEALTH POKEMON
>THEY DO THIS WITH NEUTRAL ATTACKS INSTEAD OF EXPLOITING WEAKNESSES OF OTHER OPPONENTS
>If they aren't doing that it's nothing but two pokemon spam protect whilst the one not spamming protect focuses on you because it knows you aren't spamming protect because it's blatantly cheating AI
>Losing with 5+ kills because somebody who did nothing but spam protect all game was never focused on, by the other enemies, and this game mode ACTUALLY REWARDS PASSIVE PLAY
>If you try passive play it never works because Kingdra is spamming Waterfall flinch on me whilst the two low health fire/ground pokemon jerk each other off

Why is this in the game.

Who would look at this and not feel utterly ashamed it's this fucking awful?

>>30902412
Not true, I encountered Anabel in Sun. Also while I caught Guzzlord I have yet to report back to her, so I doubt that affects it.

>>30903164
Alola-Ninetales is Ice/Fairy, so neutral to fighting.
I feel weird about using Garchomp for some reason, but maybe I'll use discount Garchomp (aka Flygon), or just grab a Krookodile and slap a choice scarf on it.

>>30903291
It's a lot more fun with actual friends than it is playing against the AI

I want /vp/ to have battle royal threads where people just fuck around fighting each other

>don't want dexio to appear in the tree
>have to fight dexio to get the mega ring and make him appear in the tree

It's not fair!

>>30903312
pZ is weak to fighting, but I don't think there's many things faster than it that have fighting coverage.

>I feel weird about using Garchomp for some reason
Cause it's strong? Don't play nice with the battle tree. It'll just dick you in the ass.

>>30903291
Battle Royal is an extremely stupid mode in general against the AI. Half the enemies also have Focus Sash in addition to Protect.

I forgot to save the video because I ended up winning, but this one Speed Boost Sharpedo flinched my Buzzwole with Ice Fang then FROZE IT TEN TURNS IN A ROW and I have never been so happy to end its life.

>>30903335
This, it seems like it would be pretty fun with other people, its just a shit show against the AI.

>>30903351
Porygon-Z is weak to fighting for one turn. After that it's immune (or neutral, but I've been running ghost conversion with HP fighting).

>>30903306
Weird. I must have terrible luck to have not been matched to her by now. I've seen everyone else but her.

Plumeria
Kiawe
Cynthia
Wally
Sina

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I'm making a trick room team with pic related for super doubles, what pokemon work well with it?

>>30903510
In my experience, Hariyama is a good partner for it.

>>30903217
Im at 50 rn now for the second time, first time Red destroy me. Doing the same thing as you and everyone else I think and not doing doubles until I beat this motherfucker.

What am I in for guise?

>>30903510
It works pretty well with anything. I just used a FWG core along side it consisting of primarina, marowak, and exeguttor.

>>30901668

20 singles
10 super singles

2 multi

I haven´t tried doubles cause can´t decide how should l build my team

>>30903510
Anything with a move that hits the entire enemy side. Koko Discharge is my personal favorite but you can also make a Trick Room team with him and run something like Mega Slowbro Surf spam.

>>30893819
>Trying to just scout for partners in Multi
>Realize I'm at R40.
"Gimme someone I can handle..."
>Colress, a joke.
>Steamroll 41 and 42.
"Fuck, I might have a chance.
>Veteran appears
>Thundurus
WOAH THERE!
>Latias
FUCKING REALLY?
>Raikou
NOT EVEN ANABEL GOT TO BRING IN THREE FUCKING LEGENDARIES.

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>First battle
>First turn
>Quick claw Wailord goes first and freezes me with Ice Beam.

>>30901668
Current is 30-something in Super Singles. I haven't touched the others.

>>30903658

You gotta look out for those Vets.

>>30902035
I run Lum Berry on Dragonite if shit happens. It saves lives.

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>>30903658
Did you lose?

>>30903658
I was in super singles, if that wasn't clear

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>It knows THAT move
>It hits without a single miss
>It crits

>>30903544
Never fucking mind, the game was kind to me this time and I fucking beat that asshole, take that you fucking megazard X!
Now to make a doubles team, any recs?

>>30899176

You either go Meta, or you abuse the AI, which everyone does to get to 1000+ streaks, via Entrainment Durant for Singles or FEAR Aron for Doubles.

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>>30903986
We don't have those yet.

>>30904043
Z moves are a decent substitute

I can't count the ways that Rocknium Z saved my ass since I won't get Stone Missed

>>30895483
It was holding an Iron Ball. It's also the reason why it outspeeds Jellicent under Trick Room.

>>30897814
You should get an electric type so that strong flying types don't plow through your team. Magnezone could work really well for you because your team comp shits on ground types so you won't run into them too much unless you're fighting Colress

>>30904120
Why the fuck did I mention Colress? Disregard that bit

So I want to have a laff by using Moody Glalie (with its megastone.) I don't know what else I'll use, but something with T-wave would be nice for the set-up opportunities.

I already got 50 streaks in all categories so I don't care how long I can hold out, I just wanna see how far the most broken ability in the game can carry a mono-ice pokemon. The set would be Protect/Sub/Double Team/Return. What would pair well with this?

>>30903335
It is pretty fun with friends, it's a good mode to fuck around in

>>30899176
Even if the game let you use a full team of 6 legendaries with the best stats and moves possible I'm not sure it'd help that much. Eventually ONE fuck would stonewall you due to the AI's penchant for picking hard-counters.

6IV Ditto w/ Destiny Knot is required to get anywhere with any reliability, even without taking into account Supers.

The only way to guarantee victory is to literally just hack your cart to never have your HP go down ever, and even then you could still run into something that spams Minimize or someshit.

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>Dusknoir in doubles keeps healing my Milotic with Pain Split because I'm focusing its partners for the whole battle

>it's a "the AI hits four Focus Blasts in a row even though I Knocked Off the Wide Lens on turn one" episode

>>30900060
The best set I've run is baneful bunker, infestation, recover, and a random move, be liquidation/scald/toxic/etc.

Has worked everything I need to stall

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>>30904607
>aegislash is my last mon
>cynthia throws out milotic
>i shadow ball it and get the special defense drop
>it has competitive so special attack is raised 2 stages
>proceeds to spam pump without missing a single time

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>stockpile roost rocky helmet pelipper

just

>>30903986
>>30904043
Isn't Rattata a decent replacement for Aron?

>>30904811
>Pichu used Thunder Shock!

>>30899857
Retard

what's a good team for super singles?

>>30904120
Cool, which would you recommend taking out? Golisopod is a great opener with first impression, mimikyu is great at stopping set ups, and bulu hits like a fucking tank, so I'm not sure which I should switch.

>>30899919
That was intense.

>>30897814
Give Mimikyu a Lum Berry. With that and Disguise you get so many free Swords Dances, or you get a free attack while the opponent tries to status you. You have no idea how important it can be to shrug off RNG status hax.

Mimikyu would be my MVP for Super Singles if not for Xurkitree.

Kind of want to test soak over roost on my Pelipper for doubles, for shenanigans with Topu Keko and Raichu...

Anyone try this before?

>>30903149
Araquanid resists both

>>30905390
pls reapond

So.
Here's my team for Singles.

Silvally @ Leftovers
Parting Shot/T-Wave/Iron Head/Multi-Attack

Xukirtree @ Life Orb
Volt Switch/T-Bolt/E-Terrain/Energy Ball

Salamence @ Salacite
Double-Edge/EQ/Dragon Dance/Roost.

I feel like Celesteela might be better for my team than Xurkitree. Thoughts? I'd give it leftovers, Lum Berry to Silvally.
Probably Leech Seed/Protect/Heavy Slam/FlameThrower

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>super doubles
>vs Camerupt+Alakazam
>use Protect with one of my Pokemon
>Alakazam uses Telekinesis on my other
>Camerupt uses Earthquake
>Alakazam is the only one hit and gets KO'd

>>30904238
Sableye with Trick and a shit item like Lagging Tail.
What's the Glalite for? Just get Leftovers and spam Protect/Substitute until you have enough precision to use Sheer Cold.

>>30906104
Mega-Salamence + whatever

>>30906207
OHKO moves are not affected by accuracy. I also don't want to

I could use base form but I get more coverage by essentially having five moves (Return and Ice-Return.) Could help a bit against ice resists. Again, the team will just be for laughs.

>>30906184
I think the second most frustrating part of the Battle Tree fights is that the AI is so bipolar in its retardation. It either has 100% prediction capabilities and RNG kissing the ground it walks on, or it gets fucked by absolutely everything and kills itself.

>>30901668
83 in Super Multi with Cynthia as my partner. I really wanted that Lansat berry :(

Anyone have any suggestions for my singles team?

Tapu Koko @ Electrium Z
Wild Charge
Dazzling Gleam
Brave Bird
U-Turn

Goodra @ Assault Vest
Dragon Pulse
Sludge Bomb
Thunderbolt
Flamethrower

Krookodile @ Expert Belt
Earthquake
Crunch
Fire Fang
Taunt

Fairly weak to ice types, mainly Weavile and Mamoswine. Thinking of replacing Krookodile, but still having Taunt would be nice. Then I will probably replace Goodra's Flamethrower with Ice Beam.

Side note, just had a battle where Wally went full retard. 1v1, my Koko vs. his Garchomp. He uses Outrage 2 turns in a row and I kill him with 2 Dazzling Gleams.

A couple videos I wanted to share.

BKDG-WWWW-WWW3-77VR = Red and Blue/Green going down easier than expected.

6LXG-WWWW-WWW3-7UFA = The AI decides to throw legendaries at me as early as turn 20 but still had to resort in hax to cut my run short :c

>>30901668
35 in super multi with Kiawe.
>tfw swept by haxorus hax

Moveset for Buzzwole anyone?

Superpower
Leech Life
Ice Punch
???

Assault Vest on it?

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What are some good partners for Pyukumuku in singles? I want to build a team around it.

>>30907246
Anything that would appreciate +1 all stats being passed to it.

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>Need BP to get Destiny Knot
>Need Destiny Knot to breed pokemon to use in Battle Tree to get BP

Got to 37 in super singles with this setup but then I fucked up and ended up losing, is this a viable setup to get to 50 or should I switch now?

Lead with Golisopod @ Assault Vest
EVs in HP and Attack

Aqua Jet
First Impression
Leech Life
Sucker Punch

M-Metagross
EVs in Speed and Attack

Earthquake
Hammer Arm
Meteor Mash
Zen Headbutt

Tapu Koko @ Life Orb
EVs in Special Attack and Speed

Thunderbolt
Dazzling Gleam
Brave Bird/Steel Wing(can't decide between these two)
Taunt

>>30907626
run scarf on koko, or specs (replace brave bird with HP, assuming you have a decent one) and taunt with volt switch.

>>30907624
It's called an "Artificial Game Extender".

It keeps you from being done with a game for 6 months while they work on the REAL version of the game, plus they get to sell the same game twice.

If you could skip all of the RNG-enforced bullshit, you'd be 100% done with SM in like, a long weekend.

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>>30903118

I

DID

IT

I

FUCKING

DID

IT

JESUS CHRIST
I HAVE BEEN TOILING AT THIS SHIT FOR WEEKS

I FUCKING KNEW THIS LITTLE BASTARD WAS THE TICKET

NO UBs
NO TAPUS
NO SILVALLY
NO OLD MONS
ALOLA ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION

If you want to see the dumbest fucking Red battle in existence
XT2W-WWWW-WWW3-7VZH
I got INSANENLY lucky after the unexpected KO from Dragon Rush, and the rest is a fucking shitshow. At any rate, I wouldn't get to Red without Minior sweeps, and PP stalling EQs and Thunderbolts with switch spamming. The important thing is it CAN be done without legends or old mons! Very painfully!

Currently making a Grassy Terrain team for doubles. I'm not finished with it yet, but here's what it's at so far. I'm planning on leading with Tapu Bulu (that should be obvious) with Toxapex. I have Golisopod waiting in reserves, and I'm missing a fourth. Here's the sets I had in mind:

Tapu Bulu @ ???
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Horn Leech
- Megahorn
- Superpower
- Zen Headbutt

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Recover
- Haze
- Toxic

Golisopod @ Assault Vest
Ability: Emergency Exit
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- First Impression
- Liquidation / Aqua Jet
- Leech Life
- Poison Jab / Sucker Punch

The plan was that in situations where Toxapex needs to get the fuck out of there, Golisopod can take over, tank shit, and kill things. Should Emergency Exit proc, I can send Toxapex back in with 33.3% more health, or I can send in the fourth Pokemon if I don't think Toxapex can do the job. Thoughts and opinions? The only problem I can see at the moment is that I have two water types on one team, so an electric type weakness is shared.

>>30907831
Just use the Tapus and UBs to beat the Normal single challenge. That will give you 48BP, enough to get the Destiny Knot.

So I'm considering adding a Jolly Kartana as my Sash user on the team mentioned in >>30895463 and I was wondering what the recommended EV spread is on that. 252 in Speed seems like a no brainer, but does it need full investment in attack when the base stat is so high + Beast Boost? Or should I split it between Attack and HP?

>>30901668
27 in Super Singles using a team of Garchomp, Tapu Lele and Weavile. I can't remember what tripped me up.

Haven't really touched Doubles since I don't have a team built around that yet. Did try Multi but lost around match 6 or so because Grimsley makes bad choices.

Playing on an o3DS makes me want to touch the doubles formats less honestly. The slowdown makes it excruciating even with animations turned off. But I can't really justify an n3DS upgrade right now.

>>30907831
The BP -> Item -> BP loop doesn't have anything to do with delaying your finishing of the game while they work on the next one considering it's in Emerald and Platinum too

>>30908135
Good job anon.

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>>30898568

>>30908321
It either exists because gamefreak is retarded and doesn't know how to function without it, or it's an intentional loop made to prolong the lifetime of a game.

>>30908278
why would you sash kartana when he could have life orb

So, I don't know what team to make or how to make a good competitive strategy for singles. Can I get some help? Because right now all I have going is an adamant Metagross w/o Metagrossite and 1 pokemon does not make a team.

>>30908492
Garchomp's already holding the Life Orb and I wanted something as OHKO insurance. Chomp's running SD though so I guess I could swap the two.

It was originally going to be a Lucario before I remembered I had UBs just sitting there.

>>30908550
What is Metagross weak to? What Pokemon can cover for those weaknesses?

What side does Metagross hit on? Who'd be a good partner to hit on the other side?

And other such questions.

>>30896829
How do you let Smeargle sketch moves from your own mons this gen? Anything like the doubles cafe in X/Y?

>>30908648
Ground, Ghost, Fire and Dark.
>What side does Metagross hit on?
I don't understand what that means. It's a physical attacker. It has Earthquake, Meteor Mash, Zen Headbutt and either Rock Polish or Protect.
>What Pokemon can cover for those weaknesses?
A bunch, but it sounds like the AI counter picks your team from what other posts seem to think.

>>30908780
>delete all moves but the one you want to copy
>find a ditto
>let it transform
>switch to smeargle
>sketch

Who are some of the best trainers and Pokémon to scout for, particularly for getting a good streak in Super Multi?

>>30909210
Anyone with a lead Scarf Eruption Entei. It's who I used in X and I was fortunate enough to run into a user in Sun.

What do you guys think of this team?

Tapu Koko
Minior
Milotic

For singles

If the AI counterpicks it does a pretty shitty job.

And it uses the dumbest fucking moves. Battle Subway and shit used to pull all sorts of garbage and always use the perfect moves. I've had many instances where they decide to set up instead of easily one shot my near dead final mon.

>>30909360
Based on what I've observed, it has a threefold pattern. On average, every three rounds it will do something completely retarded, and every three rounds, it will hard counterpick you (or at the very least do its best). The last third round is a toss-up where it just picks shit and plays hard.

who /backupsaveevery10wins/ here? My streak is currently 236.

Is it worth it to use OHKO moves? I want to breed a Trapinch for the tree, and need to level it to 40 for Superpower anyway. I'm considering if trying to grab Fissure too is worth it.

I have obtained 4 Breedject honedges that I would like to breed and use an aegislash for the battle tree, each having the following natures: Adamant, Modest x 2 and Quiet. Which nature should I go for and what set should I use?

>>30909521
Not unless you want to run Wide Lens for a gimmick mon.

Would be interesting though to test in the Tree.

>>30909299
Similar to my current/10. I'm running Minior, Mudsdale, Primarina. Smash Sash, Physical Wall and Specs sets, respectively

>>30909299

Minior is gonna get dicked. You have too many weaknesses. Electric, Grass neutrals you all over, not enough resistances in general. Your synergy is meh at best.

I got to round 40 in super singles earlier today, but I got walled hard by colress. My team is sash mimikyu with SD/leech life/play rough/shadow sneak, z-ash greninja with water shuriken/hydro pump/ice beam/dark pulse, and m-garchomp with SD/eq/outrage/stone edge. Any tips for making the whole process any less annoying? I find that mimikyu sometimes just doesn't cut it, and ash-greninja also doesn't hit hard enough unless I have type advantage or use z-hydro pump.

>>30909299
On top of what >>30909674 said, I'll add that Minior doesn't get the effects of Koko's terrain, so he'll die instantly to sleep, which WILL happen.

AI can't account for abilities, so try to exploit that.

>>30909918
>die instantly to sleep
only if they can outspeed a base 120 pokemon that probably set up shell smas

This is my current Battle Tree team:

LO Kartana: Leaf blade, smart strike, sacred sword, night slash
Yache Garchomp: Stone Edge, swords dance, earthquake, dragon claw
Mega Gengar: Tbolt, Sludge bomb, shadow ball, and dazzling gleam

Any thoughts on their movesets? I feel like I want to replace Tbolt and dazzling gleam with energy ball and focus blast for mega gengar at least.

I just got to the battle tree and I want to make a doubles team.
I've run it a couple of times now with the team you can see below and I've gotten to 20 wins with it, but I want to do better.

Metagross (M) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: -
Adamant Nature
- Hammer Arm
- Zen Headbutt
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch

Mimikyu (F) @ Fairium Z
Ability: Disguise
EVs: -
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Wood Hammer
- Shadow Claw

Araquanid (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Bubble
EVs: -
Relaxed Nature
- Liquidation
- Toxic
- Wide Guard
- Leech Life

Krookodile (F) @ Soft Sand
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: -
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Crunch

So far they're not EV trained yet and I haven't gotten any big items (I will get a mega stone for metagross).
I'd like to switch the Krookodile out but I haven't found any replacement for it.
Any suggestions or pointers would help.

>>30910236
>surely a non mega metagross with 90% acc moves won't let me down

>>30910329
>(I will get a mega stone for metagross)
They probably just don't have the BP yet.
Please read entire posts before you shittalk.

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>>30910349
>using a shitmon in the push-your-shit-in-tower is supposed to do something aside from waste your time and embiggen your frustration

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>>30910329
>tfw you just barely survived colress due to mega metagross missing meteor mash

How is everyone running their battle tree megamence? Standard physical double STAB, EQ, DD?

>the first multi battle tag partner
Is it me or is her AI pants on head retarded? Do I have to slog through 20 on multi to get new partners, or is it 20 on any mode?

>>30910465
Jolly
252 speed
128 Attack and Special attack
Double Edge/Earthquake/Brick Break/Flamethrower

Literally only have flamethrower in case of ferrothorns and other steel types, Avoid contact shenanigans, .....and not trusting fire fangs 95 accuracy at all.

>only bred A-Exeggutor as a sashed trick room setter to set up and get out of the way for my heavy hitters
>it's actually really fucking good
>frisk alerts me to the bullshit items
I think it might be the first really dedicated mixed attacker I've ever used as well. 10/10 would use again

I want the mega stones for kanga and Abolette and I only have the three starters trained up. Can I do it?

So someone posted a doubles build earlier with Primarina/Oranguru/A-Exeggutor/A-Marowak

I had the exact same build in mind, only with Wishiwashi/Oranguru like in that one trailer.

Would the spread fuck me over? Does Oranguru die a lot? Does the AI target it with flinches?

Right now I'm running a mimikyu with normalium Z to use with splash for the attack boost. Would I be better off with a swords dance/red card set? I've seen it used but I'm not clear on what the advantages of red card are

>>30910492
Go beat singles or doubles.
In super, you fight a named character every n0th floor.

>>30910821
Fake Out is common enough where I would use Inner Focus. Telepathy is nice but it's not as good an ability, it's easier to just not use full-spread moves than for TR to fail to go up all the time. And honestly I prefer single target moves, more often than not only one target is actually threatening at any given time and it's better to focus fire that than to risk the damage drop from spread moves to let it live.

If you wanted to use Telepathy, I'd use Tsareena as the grass type (Queenly Majest will protect against Fake Out) and Chandelure as the Fire type and secondary TR setter. You're really missing out on a lot of fire power though so it's probably not as good.

>>30911053
Also Tsareena and Chandelure are a bit fast. Scratch this it sucks.

I'll also say, Primarina>Wishwashi as it can ruin Dark types that threaten Oranguru. I also don't like how Wishi is useless at low health.

what nature do I run on Flygon, Jolly, Adamant, or Naive?

>>30910646
Are they EV trained? At the very least you can slow grind regular singles until you get enough BP.

>>30908135
Congrats! I wanna be like you when I grow up

>lose to some chucklefuck Sableye that only uses confuse ray and recover because my team loves hitting itself

>>30911402
>Confuse chance nerf? What's that?
t. every fucking battle facility ever.

I'm a scrub, what UBs are good for farming BP in singles?

>>30901668
72 in super singles
Run got ended early. No hax even happened.
Just me playing badly

>letting kartana die to hawlucha, even after learning that hawlucha is faster
>not switching toxapex out from mudsdale
>not scouting attacks with baneful bunker

YBBG-WWWW-WWW3-83N3

>>30911940
Kartana.

>>30901668
14 in Multis with a friend.
12 in Doubles.
5 in Singles.

Can't seem to find the right team and build momentum. I should probably start actually building metamons and stop using stupid shit like Decidueye, even if it's got a good build.

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I'm desperate to use Hydreigon (scarfed), one of my favorite mons, but he's borked until the bank move tutors
Draco and Dark Pulse for sure, but do you think U-Turn, Hyper Voice, Flamethrower and/or Fire Blast are best for my last two?
I'm not sure how prevalent Substitute users are

Also, yes, I'm running smogonbird (metal) to switch in against his counters

>>30912191
The main sub user I've encountered was Scrafty.
Sub, focus punch, bulk up and one more attack

What's your whole team gonna be?
I can't suggest other moves really unless i know what it has to cover.

>>30912191
Fire Blast and Uturn are best.

>>30912256
Hydreigon lead, Skarmory second, and M Pinsir to clean house

I had wanted Earth Power but lol tutor, so that will have to wait
Same goes for fucking Close Combat, leaving me with Superpower on Pinsir
I'm also heavily debating whether I should have Earthquake as my fourth Pinsir move now (obv after Return, QA and CC)

>>30912279
Duly noted.

>>30912313

pretty much what >>30912279 said, but replace fire blast with flamethrower.

Draco, dark pulse, flamethrower, U-turn

Don't go for fire blast because only because you'll miss during an important attack and it'll cost you the run.

I feel like I want to use Bewear as a tank and a Mega Lucario for sweeping as Bewear can tank his bad matchups with Assault Vest

I don't know what do bring as a lead, though. Suggestions?

>>30912459
Both bewear and lucario are weak to fire
Don't do it senpai

>>30912459
You have a double weakness to Fire and Fighting with those.
Maybe Chandelure?

>>30912459
Run him in a rain set

Does hyper offense work? If so what mons would you guys recommend? I have a battle ready Pheromosa, Kartana, Garchomp, Lucario and others. Got a few walls too if hyper offense is shit.

Also why the fuck does this board go to shit at night? Damn.

>>30912503
It works, but you really won't have anything to switch into that can take hits. It's pretty risky.

The usual set is:
two fast offensive mons
one defensive mon that can hp stall the opponents and cover both of the offensive mons main weaknesses

>>30912503
I wouldn't do Pheromosa or Kartana. The problem is that the AI has far, far too many pokemon with berries, sashes, sturdy, confuse ray, static, bright powder, etc. With such squishy mons, ONE fuckup or unexpected flinch or move failure will cost you the match.

I should know, I tried that strategy only for a goddamn Oven Rotom and a Bisharp to fuck me over hard.

>>30912478
>>30912497
Oh fuck I completely forgot about Bewear's fire weakness
That probably rules out Kangaskhan as a sweeper too because of the double fighting weakness
Maybe a Pheromosa sweeper? That leaves my lead open to be a Mega, too

>>30912569
>>30912478
>>30912497
Actually
Having a tank that's weak to fighting and fire doesn't seem too wise, at least not for 3v3
This is hard. I haven't played pokemon since DPP

>>30912546
>>30912559
Aight thanks. If I wanted to bring Toxapex as my wall, what two mons would I want to pair it with?

>>30912569
What about mega salamence? It's strong as fuck and it resists fire and fighting. It compounds the fairy weakness but that's not too hard to cover with a steel type.

Mence/Bewear/Aegislash sounds pretty solid. They're all bulky and dangerous as fuck while covering each other's weaknesses.

>>30912627
That sounds pretty decent, Bulky, too
What are people running on Salamence nowadays? Back in DPP Swords Dance was popular, what's the consensus now? I heard something about Roost sets

>>30912615
I'm using kartana, Toxapex and Scarfchomp, the only thing that ever threatens me is rotom heat, and tangrowth is a bit of a pain to kill

I've heard that megamence was better to use over scarfchomp though.

>>30912659
Dragon dance set will solo majority of teams. DD/Roost/Return, last slot Facade to get around burns or Earthquake.

What moveset should my Koko have?
>Thunderbolt
>Dazzling Gleam
>Volt Switch
>???

>>30912780
Something that doesn't make Excadrill a free switch in.

>>30912721
>dragon dance, roost and two flying attacks
Senpai

What are you doing?

Earthquake, return, [dragon attack of your choice], [dragon dance / extra attack]

>Multi batle with Anabel and legend dogos
>Using a belly drum, recycle, gluttony, figgy Snorlax
>Get to fight 18
>Lickilicky and Garchomp
>Lickilicky lands 3 crits in a row
>Garchomp uses sandstorm and has sand veil
>Every attack against him misses
>Take forever to take them both down, down to Snorlax with 40% and Entei with 5%
>Tiranitar with fucking unnerve and Dhelmise
>Tiranitar boosts with DDance like 3 times
>Can't use my figy berry cause unnerve

Fuck this AI and this random ass team picking
Who the fuck runs Sand Veil Garchomp and Unnerve TTar fuck you

>>30912830
>mono stab is bad
I don't think you realize how fucking strong Mega Mence is. It doesn't need coverage that badly. Roost is mandatory.

>>30912810
Hm. I was thinking like Grass Knot for Ground types but Excadrill isn't weak to grass
Side note: why can Xurkitree learn Energy Ball but not Koko

>>30912627
>>30912659
>>30912569
Also quick note on bewear: its fire weakness is granted through an ability, and since the tree can't even account for immunities granted by an ability (multiple times I have set-up to +6 with Mega Sableye as the opponent spams twave on it,) you're pretty safe choosing bewear.

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>Roseli Berry Liepard
What weakass fairy attack is this supposed to let it live.

>>30908135

>not running haze on Toxapex

You absolute mad man. Liked the swap stall.

>>30913242
Also contact fire moves aren't exempt from the first effect. The two effects cancel each other out so it takes neutral damage from Flare Blitz etc

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>testing out all the trainers I've scouted
>match 2 with Wally, he has mega-gallade and magnezone
>out a couple turns in because all I have is kartana and goldeen
>waiting for wally to lose
>1v1 magnezone and ferrothorn
>barely does any damage to it, it's paralyzed with ingrain and leftovers
>takes 30 turns to finish

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>Lose the speed tie with Wally's scarfchomp

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AM I JUST NOT PAYING ATTENTION OR DOES THE BATTLE TREE NOT ANNOUNCE AIR BALLOONS?

>>30913762

It does.
They do not, however, show as status in the bottom battle screen thing.

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>>30913489
Why are you using Goldeen?

>Minior/MegaGross/A-Ninetails
>Round 33
>Just another Lapras, nothing to worry about.
>Switch to MegaGross
>Hammer Arm
>whiff
>Hammer Arm
>whiff
>dead.
>Lapras out tanks Ninetails
>Minior, my last hope
>Rock Slide
>whiff

I know it's my own fault for using 90% attacks but I never thought I'd miss so often... I mean ffs I get hit by every hydro pump, every Hypnosis, every thunder.

h-hold me, /btg/...

>>30914220
>two pokemon weak to fire
>two pokemon weak to steel
>all 3 have mediocre speed when first sent out

Anon..

>>30914251
I was doing fine until this. The reason I lost this battle wasn't my team, it was RNG.

'Sides, I'm trying to figure out what to use from the 'mons I have trained.

Want me to list' em?

>>30914277
List them senpai

>>30913859

I was leveling pokemon for pokedex completion outside battle tree but I got bored and wanted to see the movesets on the people that I scouted since I'll probably do multi/supers after I finish singles.

>>30914309
>Adamant Golisopod @Assault Vest
>Adamant Silvally
>Adamant Bulletproof Kommo-o @Muscle Band
>Adamant Minior @White Herb
>Adamant Kartana @Life Orb
>Jolly Metagross @Metagrossite
>Bold Toxapex @Leftovers
>Timid Ninetails @Z-Psychinium (Extrasensory)
>Modest Xurkitree @Choice Scarf
>Adamant Aegislash @Weakness Policy
>Impish Midnight Lycanroc @Red Card

Got a Lucario and Salamence in the oven but they ain't ready yet.

>>30914396
[something fast and not weak to ground or ice]
Toxapex
Salamence

There's your team.

in my experience, special defense toxapex has been more useful than physical defense toxapex

>>30914426
I hate using Toxapex... It's so boring. Just Bunker, Sludge Bomb, Scald, and Recover. It's useless against steel types.

>>30914396

>adamant aegislash

You want -speed nature so you can go last and don't have to eat hits in sword forme by going first

>>30914480

That's not what you use on toxapex. Use toxic, recover, haze, and scald.

>>30914480
Then replace toxapex with a specially defensive pokemon that resists ice and a weakness of your 3rd pokemon then.

>>30914488
>Haze
We're in the battle tree. Not many people have stat boosting moves.
it'd be useless most of the time.

>battle 55
>switch teams, use Mega Mence for the first time
>it's mono electric
>mega mence last mon standing
>it's zapdos
>it parahaxes me to death
JUST

>>30914516
>leading with A Ninetails and constantly getting enemy Cloud 9 leads
I didn't even know fucking Lickily GOT that ability
Fuck, I barely even remember that mon exists

My fucking undoing at battle 49 was a god damned special attacking smogon bird fucking kill me

I'll have nightmared about a scarfed jolly Aerodactyl that flinched me to death, literally, I couldn't even touch him, it was battle 4.

Other than that, I managed to beat Super singles: G36G-WWWW-WWW3-87TU

And Super doubles: JG4G-WWWW-WWW3-87UK

Currently trying to complete Super multis. Let me tell you, fantasy cores composed by pokemon that can nuke everything in sight are pretty good for the tree.

>>30914571
>fantasy cores composed by pokemon that can nuke everything in sight
Examples?
I lucked out and managed to scout Colress with a Porygon-Z and MegaGross, but I'm not sure what I should use alongside those.

>>30914488
Every time I bring my Toxapex into the tree, I end up stalling vs a rest user that just sleeps away the poison. It's horseshit.

>>30914488
What's the difference stat wise at Lv50 between a Pokémon with -speed and =speed?

>>30914591

I Scouted Cynthia with a Mega Lucario as the first mon, and a shitty paraflynch Togekiss, Lucario is awesome, though. I got to battle 42 with her, I was using Mega Salamence and Arcanine, I lost to a lethal combination of me not looking at the screen, playing badly, and hax.

If you want to advance with Colress, I'd suggest you bring a Tapu Lele to destroy fighting mons and prevent priority, and a Hydreigon, it goes perfectly with Metagross I think.

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Timid or Modest for Mega Alakazam?

>>30914644
Always timid man always timid

>>30914659
Thanks pal

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VPXG-WWWW-WW3-88BM

7 turns of freeze killed my 78 win streak. There should should be a limit to this shit

>>30914626
Good ideas.
How should I build them?
Will Scarfed Lele + LO Drei be good?

Lucario moveset suggestions?

Thinking about Bullet Punch, Close Combat, Swords Dance but not sure on the last one. Iron Tail is good but I'm sure the accuracy will fuck me over

Blaze Kick, maybe?

>>30914864
Ignore me, Blaze Kick isn't available yet, fuck. Accepting suggestions

>can't even beat the regular battle tree
kill me, please

My first run will be leading with a memestastic Shell Smash Moody Smeargle, wish me luck familia

>>30914928
Post your team.

Anyone got any ideas for a singles team built around Scizor? Currently thinking of Garchomp to cover Scizor and Toxipex for entry hazard/stalling.

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Update on >>30914998

I'M GROWING STRONGER

>>30915307
Round two, opponent leads with taunt weavile
watch

>>30915337
5th battle, Breloom with Mach Punch fucked me up

I expected Spore so I subbed, he went with Stun Spore. He did the fighting Z-move to break the sub (??) while I smashed, went for the Baton Pass but he fucked me up with Mach Punch. I should have passed the subs to Salamence and called it a day

I fucked them up with Bewear though, so I'm still undefeated

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>>30914740
>Losing to a child named Leena

im sorry for your loss

>10% paralysis chance from t-bolt
>get immobilized the next turn
>proceed to get greedy with d-dances
>Frozen and chipped to 1 hp
>FOCUS SASH
>Ribombe tanks a stab, terrain boosted thunderbolt from tapu koko and kills it with a draining kiss

252 SpA Tapu Koko Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ribombee: 240-283 (74 - 87.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

holy fuck