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Why are they the best games?

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Why are they the best games?
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>>30887578
Has the most shit to do

Enjoyable difficulty
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>best
that's a weird way to say shittiest anon
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>Great story
>Great areas
>Great music
>Great post game
>Great variety of pokemon to choose from
They are just great
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>>30887578
A ton of cool pokemon from every gen
Except Gengar
They really fucked that up
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>>30887578
They're pretty great, even genwunners have to admit it this at some point. But saying they're the best is a hilariously wrong claim.
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I really like the gear
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>>30887636
This
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Why do unovafags shit on every other gen while deep throating Gen 5 to annoying lengths?
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>inb4 another genwar bait thread that gets 200+ replies
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>>30887708
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>W-why are unovaborts so adamant about this game being good?????
>B-buh 150 that suck!!!
>N-nevermind it's only half that!
>S-stop defending it U-unovacucks!
>S-stop calling me out on my b-buzzwords!!
>I-I'll go back to a much better game, X/Y.
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The gear
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>>30887732
Trolling means I'm being insincere. I'm genuinely curious as to why unovafags insist on being so cancerous.
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>>30887742
Don't you have 2hu armpits to fap to?
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>>30887742
>literal last game to come out on the DS by Nintendo
>3ds has been out for a year
>Still 10th highest selling

>>30887765
Find me a thread where unovabortions derailed a thread
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>>30887742
(You)
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1. BW2
2. Emerald/ORAS
3. HGSS

Best games.
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1. TG
2. BW 2
3. HGSS
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>>30887830
Replace emerald with SM and you'd be correct. Why is ORAS on there at all
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>>30887578
Its not even regarded as the best game on /vp/ let alone the world.
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>tfw gen 5 is my second favorite gen but cannot stand the cancer fans it has on /vp/

can you niggers tone it down a notch?
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>>30887819
*10th highest selling on the ds

And also DP and BW were next to each other there
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>>30887578
>he still butthurt about the polls
Hahahaha mad not being the face of /vp/ :)? there are two games ahead of you guys.
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>>30887819
>>literal last game to come out on the DS by Nintendo
>>3ds has been out for a year
you do realize this is meaningless because the 3DS is backwards compatible without a hitch, right?
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>>30887893
>you do realize this is meaningless because the 3DS is backwards compatible without a hitch, right?
Do you buy Xbox games for your Xbox360 at the same price as a Xbox360 game?
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>>30887578
Why are gen5 so autistic?
how many times do you need to get btfo?
I admit bw2 was good but it aint the best.
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>>30887827
No, people who like Unova don't sperg on people that like other games.
As soon as someone brings up how they like gen 5 he's assaulted by buzzwords and how he's cancerous just because he likes a game. /vp/s golden era happened during BW2 release as well.
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>>30887936
>No, people who like Unova don't sperg on people that like other games.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA

HAHAHA
A

AHAHHAHAHHAHA

HAHHAHA
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>>30887936
Blame reddits invasion
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>>30887892
One game, It was second place on both the best and worse polls.
Gen V is extremely polarizing, either you love it or hate it.
>>30887893
>without a hitch
game looks like shit unless you hold down select while starting it
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>>30887860
>Replace emerald with SM
Why would I replace Emerald with the barren shitfest called SM?
>Why is ORAS on there at all
Because ORAS has some of the best content in the series. Super expanded Secrt Bases + Soaring + DexNav is a winner combination, my friend.
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>>30887964
You fags are obsessed with Reddit holy shit.
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>>30887983
because hoenn is shit
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>>30887978
No gen wise it was the second beat.
Individual it ranked 3rd.
/vp/ fav pt and hgss more then bw2. 2012 was 4 years ago times change.
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>>30888006
ORAS made Hoenn good.
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>>30887961
Well, unless you like X/Y, but you have every reason to get assaulted on.
Dumb frogposter.
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>>30888034
ORAS made hoenn worse, dumb ass
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>>30888006
Your bait is weak.
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>>30887636
Pretty much this although I'm not sure I'd call the story great.
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>>30887992
Because its fucking true.
/vp/ used to be our thing until all these casuals from reddit moved into her.
How the fuck is gen4 better then 5 it has no story shit forgettable character and no difficulty what so ever. hgss has the worst grunt group ever and sinnoh is fucking boring
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>>30887578

Rubi and Zafire were not innovative and did not had the greatest pokemon and soundtrack, faggot
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>>30887983
>people seriously think secret bases and DexNav make a game good
I'll give you soaring is cool and I enjoyed having almost every legendary available, but ORAS is still one of the worst Pokemon games
And yeah, SM probably wasn't that great but I'm a faggot who feels the need to project my opinions everywhere
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>>30888036
unovafags shit on gen 4 all the time, mostly because they're mad that it's generally agreed that gen 4 is better

like >>30888096
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>>30888036
Nah, unovabortions are most hostile to sinnohfetuses for whatever reason. It's probably an inferiority complex, since Gen 4 does everything better, including postgame.
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>>30888040
muh battle fronteire!!!!!!!!
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>>30887742
But I unironically enjoyed gen 5 since it came out (I was like 13)
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>>30887578
>Spectaular postgame
>Great soundtrack
>Enjoyable story
>Great locations and route balance
>Difficulty is just right
>Amazing selection of Pokémon
>Superb E4+Champion
>Colress
>Cool box legendary's
>Deepest Lore
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>>30887578
How can it be the best game if I have to box my starters from the get go?
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>>30888129
how do you breathe with unova's cock blocking your windpipe?
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>>30888028
>3rd

That aint bad
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>>30888096
>thinks 4chan is a super seekrit club
yeah i remember when i was a teenager too
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>mfw HGSS and Platinum will ALWAYS be considered the superior DS games
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>>30888129

it was all the things black and white should had done, but they decided to put them in a game that was supossed to be the remakes of rubi and zafire
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>>30887930
if they were brand new, current members of a franchise I enjoyed that didn't have a 3DS version, then yes? who cares what label is on the box?

not to mention the millions of DSes still very much in use by that time

>>30887978
then just hold down select

parents who don't know dick about the Nintendo ecosystem beyond what's on their kid's wish list and actual fans of the games aren't necessarily going to give a shit about either of these
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>>30888160
Fuck off I am tired of you filthy casuals with shit taste.
You are just blinded by nostalgia just look at this fucking mess>>30888028
How the fuck can people even enjoy hgss. Worst level curve ever with the shittiest edgiest rival ever. Not to mention that it has practical 0 stuff to do.
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>>30888040
>ORAS made hoenn worse
Yeah,no. Fuck off.
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>>30888136
I box my starters in HGSS because I dislike gen 2 starters, doesn't mean they're bad games.
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>>30887742
>Thinking normies have good taste
>>30887765
It's cancerous tards like you that shit up every thread that mentions gen 5. Someday you need to realize that YOU are the problem.
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>shit pokemon
>shit music
>shit story
>shit starters
>shit legendaries

What did gen 5 even do right?
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>>30888115
ORAS is fantastic. It can only be considered weak as an Emerald remake, which it isn´t.
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>>30888194
>then just hold down select

>be me
>forget to do it every time
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>>30888121
>sinnohfetuse
>unovabortions
Is there a name for the Alolan fans yet?
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>>30888243

Shit bait.
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The thing I'm confused about is how people can like HGSS or BW2 but not the other

If you like Gen 6 that's another thing entirely
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>>30888119
>>30888121
Same dude, I loved platinum, and SS got me back into the series. But the whole breeding system was bad for me, and battle tower was just ok, sam with subway, but PWT was one of the best things to happen to the series. Gen 4 deserves some flack, but that only pushes the franchise forward. Not to mention B/W has more content than D/P, and gen 4 is slow. (I still really like it though, like I said, if it wasn't for gen 4 I wouldn't be back into pokemon.)
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>>30887578

>Forgettable legendaries
>Forgettable soundtrack, screechiest gen of the entire series
>Story is basically Force Awakens: Pokemon 2000
>Routes are actually open, something that should've been in the first game
>Had to create an entire reboot of the same gen to fix the fact that you couldn't get any of the original Pokemon pre-E4
>Difficulty is inconsistent, mostly from naturally bullshit combos aka Gen 1 & 2
>Forgettable E4 and Champ
>Blase story
>Disconnected lore
>Passable postgame if you like easymode AI competitive battles repeated as nauseum

It's on the lower end overall, but it's not terrible by any means.
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>>30888243

Not even the anime was good
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>>30887830
Replace HGSS with SM and you got it.
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>>30887892
What polls?
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>>30888267

Blase story? w0t m8?
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>>30888251

Alolagametes.
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>>30888302
http://www.strawpoll.me/11892946

http://www.strawpoll.me/11892947

these were last night btw
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>>30888267
>>Forgettable soundtrack
Stopped reading there
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>>30888254

HG/SS was a love letter to a fan favorite riding on the success of FR/LG.

B/W2 exist solely to fix the glaring mistakes of the original, and people rightfully resent that on top of the mindless unova defense force on here making otherwise neutral parties sick of it
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>>30888302
Also Seefor the individual vote>>30888028
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>>30888316
>B/W2 exist solely to fix the glaring mistakes of the original
But it's a fucking sequel with a 2 year time gap

Not a 3rd version like Platinum

I see an equal amount of Heart put into HGSS and BW2
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>>30887961
Case in point. We're being rational and you are just blindly shitting on everything gen 5. Did you even play the games of just watch the shitty ashime? Do you hate it because you can't use your "bro charizard"?
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>>30888314

>loud computer beepboops the soundtrack
>horribly tempo'd electro-jazz

I guess I can't knock it if the dissonant booping soothes your autism, but to sensible human beings it's awful. It's like all the worst parts of Gen 3's music x1000
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>>30888346
>blindingly shitting on everything gen 5

Gen 5 is why I quit Pokemon for 4 or 5 years. I have every right to shit on it.
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>>30888221
>muh shit taste meme

I don't understand you unovabortions. You are the minority everywhere, even here on /vp/. What exactly gives you "good" taste? Are you really this entitled and narcissistic to believe that your opinion is objective? If so, I can certainly understand now why so many people have begun shitting on you. Well fucking deserved.
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>>30888345

>"Sequel" that uses the exact same assets that conveniently fixes all of the biggest complaints from the original within the same generation

It's a rerelease for damage control, nothing more.
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>>30888355
>Gen 5 is why I quit Pokemon for 4 or 5 years. I have every right to shit on it.
Then you'll be ok when someone shits on you back for being an entitled little faggot.
>>30888352
Do you at least like colress's theme?
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>>30888366
They think they have taste because those "disgusting normies" mostly dislike gen 5 and "disgusting normies" don't have good taste like them

or something autistic like that
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>>30888388

>Colgates
Literally who
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>>30888382
>It's a rerelease for damage control, nothing more.
And yet I bet you say pt is good?
Same fucking thing you retard.
Also BW was not exactly a carbon copy.
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>>30888119
I like both Gen 4 and 5. Both has their merits and cons. I like all regions but prefer the Unova games. Is there a problem with that?
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>>30888355
Gen 5 is why I came back after stopping in gen 2.
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>>30888267
>Story is basically Force Awakens: Pokemon 2000

Okay. I'll bite onto this bait. how did you come to that conclusion (And why is it bad)?
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>>30888403
N-no, you gotta like the janky sci-fi countdown... It's ok if you don't. ;; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4UTKk5eF1c
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>>30888407
>implying we hate gen 5
Just because we aren't constantly on our knees sucking its cock and shitting on every other gen doesn't mean we hate it.

Also gen 3 has a pretty solid following on /vp/, I wouldn't say we hate it either.

We only really hate gen 1 and gen 6.
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>>30888156
t. GOnormie
You can't deny what I said so you retort with autism.
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>>30888355
>my opinion is fact

That happened with me and DP, but Platinum and HGSS are very good games

>loud computer beepboops the soundtrack
>horribly tempo'd electro-jazz

What did he mean by this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_2u6EDx6c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KE1iXYzRmw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp3FtEaV7tQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvHVAk2DjS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrnRrSpTz20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9X6uXyylJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2cs1jubUdo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE6eJrBM-cg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-tggRh__SE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn0Fe3FKbco
Unless you're talking about Red Health music
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>>30888411

>Same map
>Same characters with a few yawnworthy ashime additions
>No address of the glaring issues with the 150 unovan Pokemon, just old Pokemon thrown in the mix
>The only things that were different was one postgame function, a few switched around characters with their own few lines of dialogue, and some additional pokemon on routes which are opened up
>Literally everything else is the same
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>>30887578
Every week I see the same fucking thread.
I dont see that with any other game but this shit. If your game is that good you wouldnt be looking for praise every fucking time.
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>>30888455
>>loud computer beepboops the soundtrack
>>horribly tempo'd electro-jazz

Meant to reply to >>30888352
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>another cancerous unovatard thread

fuck

off
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>>30888460
Then do you hate Emerald Platinum and Crystal?
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>>30888499
B-but those are different!
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>>30887578
Still assblasted by the polls result?
Give it a fucking rest OP.
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>>30888477
>People are defending they they are liking something
>Of god another thread that doesn't agree with my opinion.
How about not being such a mad faggot and leave?
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stop liking what I dislike right now
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>>30888436

Did...did you even see Force Awakens? If not, I'll try to summarize for you.

A 3rd wave feminist hollywood nu-male basically cloned a Episode 4: New Hope down to the exact same character layout but removed every bit of compelling or interesting character from the original. He cast a flashy, updated cast of people who couldn't act to save their lives and retained the fan favorites for like, four scenes. Abrams also thought that somehow just taking the original Ultimate Weapon and just making it bigger was somehow compelling.

In short: it was not only an unoriginal copy of a decent film, but it sucked out all the good parts and replaced it with flashy things to impress millenials.
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>>30887578
They're great because of following
>development from past game
>new areas
>better battles
>improved villain
>introduction of shiny charm
>Level switch via keys
>access to Regis minus shitty Braille puzzle
>characters being fleshed out and changed
>champion becomes much harder and a gym leader from previous game
>you cannot get box legend until post game
>that giant street everyone loved

There's other stuff I missed but you get my point
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>BW2fags always go on about how the shadow triad is cool
>finally battle them
uhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>30888243
Literally all these things you said are the opposite. How can you listen to Battle: Ghetsis or Battle: Colress and say it's shit? How can you look at Krookadile, Chandelure, Volcarona, Carracosta, Haxorous, Bisharp, Braviary, Gigalith, Cofagorigas, Zekrom, and Genesect while saying it's shit?
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>>30887742
Here's a (you)
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>>30888553
God those people are a thing

I forgot about them. The theory about them being the 1st gym leaders was cool though
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>>30888533
I'm talking about the OP itself. We have this same shitty cancerous unovafag circlejerk every day.

People are getting tired of you fags.
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>>30888553
Where did you see this?
Who in their right mind said this?
I'm tempted to call you a liar right now.
Or strawman you.
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>>30888571
Those are those cheap Walmart (you). I want a name brand (You).
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>>30888566
Yes the unova dex does have a handful of good designs, but it's still mostly shit.
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>>30888267
>Best Postgame in the series
>Passable
>Forgettable E4 and Champ
>When Grimsley, Catlain, and Iris are great
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>>30888553
Last one still has a accelgor so he could fuck you up
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>>30888553
>>BW2fags always go on about how the shadow triad is cool
Show me

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/text/shadow%20triad/page/1/
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>>30888589
>Everyday
>Wasn't brought up because of recent poll
>All the other threads we have "everyday".
People are also getting shat on for liking something, same with SM, same with RSE. Why don't you post in the thread calling SM shit again, or the "now that the dust has settled" thread?
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oh boy the daily "gen 5 is the best and if you criticize it, we'll tell you why you're wrong" thread
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>>30888455

>First one sounds like a bad bitcrushed version of a better RPG song
>Alder's theme is a five second loop of plastic salsa
>Team Plasma's theme is again uneven beepboops with zero harmony
>Iris theme is just a poorly bitcrushed version of a Super Mario Galaxy theme, aka the same "space" noises looped. The actual melody doesn't even pan out with all the extras stripped away.
>Humilau sounds like terrible kpop elevator muzak
>Marine Tube is beepboop ear cancer
>Join is the only theme approaching a decent tune and is ruined by beepboops
>Gym Leader theme abandons all pretense of drama or tension and is just a really bad remix of prior gym leader themes
>Asspergia isn't bad.
>Opelucid is again a random RPG melody covered in a pile of beepboops
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>>30887777
Kek wills it
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>>30888639

They aren't gonna listen. People voted for Shillary too, so this Unova Defense Force noise doesn't surprise me.
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>>30888539
Normally I would agree, but that post is meant to call out some faggot that posted that image who claims to come from /jp/ and hops over here "just to shit on gen 5". And I get mad, the board flips a switch, and he's has a bunch of (you)s because of the bait he set.
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>>30888547
I was asking why Black and White are Force Awakens: Pokemon 2000.

At that, I personally didn't think it was all that bad. Then again, I'm also reserving a lot of judgement until the trilogy is completed. Rey and a shit ton of the Episode 4 parallels are the only real problems I personally found with it. Everything else was pretty good.
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>>30888671
>Over pixelated
>When it used semi-3d modeling
GOOD BAIT, HAVE A (you).
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>>30888645
I can't salvage this taste anon

If you geniuenly think this is bad music, then how is every other older game compared to it not shit
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>>30888859
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos
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>>30888826

Because despite being mostly handheld beeps, they attempted to create actual cohesive melodies and motifs. There's no excuse for B/W 1&2's music being electric garbage just because of a subpar sound system by extension.
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>>30888888

These are some fancy digits
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>>30888859
HOLY SHIT THIS IS HILARIOUS!
I am the kind of person that will defend hilarious glitches. In BW2, there's a forest up by pokewood, and you can surf on those tiles. You can't find pokemon, but it's pretty funny.
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>>30888859
The jpg should be renamed to Manhattan in December.
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>>30888908
Ok, so now I know I'm dealing with a shitposter if you find these songs to be different levels of quality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtXjsh3qS8I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br6M_ebVw_g

On the same handheld
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>>30888553
? Most people barely even mention these guys, what are you on about?
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>>30889300
Maaan, Chargestone cave was the coolest.

Got some of the best pokemon there too.
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>>30889276
Please be fair and compare it to Platinum's Stark Mountain

We don't want bitching about this being unfair
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>>30889338
>Please be fair and compare it to Platinum's Stark Mountain
That is Stark Mountain, see all caves in Sinnoh look the same.
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>>30889338
That is Platinum's Stark Mountain
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>>30889331
BW: Greetings humans. You will bow before your new overlord.
Pl: Oh, shit! Pull up, pull up, PULL UP!
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>>30889331
Keep in mind BW sprites are animated.
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>>30889230
>tries to cherrypick the best of Unova
>it still looks like shit

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>30888382
>rerelease

Did you actually play it or are you just shitposting?
>>
>>30889300
>>30889276
>>30889247
oh look you found the only 3 places in unova that doesn't look like washed out, pixelated shit
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>>30889338
....but that is stark mountain.
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>>30887578
I don't know what it's like over there in the Berenstain universe, but here in the real world Gen 5 is one of the suckiest.
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>>30889338
Wait it is......
>>
reminder that gen 5 will never get remakes because no one will have nostalgia for them

>I-I don't want remakes anyways!!!!!
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>>30889398
>platinum back sprite
Why not show the other tail what the fuck
>>
>>30889461
It's off camera. The BW back sprites were just made by copy/pasting the front sprites and editing them so they're facing the other direction.
>>
The fact that gen 5 is so polarizing (most people hate it, some people love it) should tell you that it was a mistake.

A good gen is a gen that most people like, some people hate, and some people think are the best.
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>>30889424
>Youtube comments on Gen V have people having nostalgia for the games
>b-but y-you c-can't have nostalgia for something from s-six years ago!
Bait harder
>>
>>30889497
I mean among the general fanbase, which most people agree that gen 5 was the worst or one of the worst.
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>>30889424
People said exactly what you're saying, word for word, about gen 3 remakes years ago. Looked at what happened.
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>>30889484
>it's weird people have different opinions
Are you retarded?
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>>30889424
They'll do BW3 instead
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>>30889424
I have nostolgia for HGSS though
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>>30889548
I'd rather have this. BW2 didn't really continue the story of the first one besides making Team Plasma Team Rocket 2.
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>>30889546
Literally did not say that. In fact, I said gen 5 is bad specifically because people either hate or love it, and there really isn't a spectrum of opinions for it like most other gens.
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>>30889484

no one actually hates it though, they're just being contrarian because it's objectively the best. that and people love it so much that it rubs people the wrong way and they go out of their way to say how much they dislike it if they genuinely do.
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>>30889575
>Yes
Ok then.
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>>30889572
I'd rather have both. If they can remake all of Unova again for BW3, then they may as well remake the first two as well.
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>>30889590
>no one actually hates it though
I genuinely hated gen 5.
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>>30889575
That doesn't even begin to make sense. There are games people LOVE but are completely glanced over. The quality of a game doesn't represent how many fans like it.
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>>30889575
>It's bad because certain people dislike it


Just like all Huckleberry Finn right?
>>
>>30889590
>this level of denial

Most people hate gen 5, it's literally an objective fact. You being an entitled special snowflake is not going to change this.
>>
People love to praise HGSS a lot more than it deserves when it fixed almost none of the issues with the original games.
In fact, I'd argue that a lot of those issues are worse.
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>>30889599
Okay dumb fuck. Learn to read before trying to argue with someone.
>>
>>30889604
And I genuinely hate StarWars, that doesn't lessen the product
>>
>>30889630
>Most people hate gen 5
Prove it.
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>>30889661
see>>30887742

Literally look up any poll which asks "Which is your favorite (or least favorite) generation" outside of /vp/ and 90% of them will have gen 5 at the bottom of favorite and the top of least favorite.
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>>30889673
Just because something isn't their favorite = least favorite
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>>30889630
>Most people hate gen 5, it's literally an objective fact.
Yeah, on Memebase and Reddit lol.
Mind going back to those sites?
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>>30889688
okay

that doesn't debunk why it's usually always voted as "least favorite"
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>>30889673
Least favorite doesn't mean you hate it Anon.

Squeak Squad is my least favorite Kirby Game but I still enjoy replaying it.
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>>30887636
>black white 2
>great story
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>>30889690
You have it backwards.

/vp/ is the only place on the internet that considers gen 5 good.
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>>30888366
this>>30888389
the normies main hate is "LOL TRASHBAG LOL ICE CREAM"
this is literally the reason they hate it
>>
>>30889690
>the majority of the fanbase agrees on something
>i-it doesn't matter!! o-only my contrarian hugbox matters!! Reddit! Muh reddit boogeyman!!!

Please kill yourself.
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>>30889717
Most people like Pokemon for the Pokemon, not the JRPG gameplay.

If the Pokemon are ugly as shit and unmemorable, people tend to dislike the game itself.
>>
>>30889698
Find me an example

>>30889722
Oh shit is it actually good?

But I was just refering to Star Wars as a big franchise
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>>30889717
>Tfw you kinda like the Ice Cream but it and other objectmons get shat on because "muh animals"
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>>30889737
see>>30887742

or look up any poll that says "which pokemon gen is your least favorite" and gen 5 will usually be voted the most
>>
>>30888068
>>30889706
Sadly it's the best story we've ever gotten in a Pokemon game. It's not great but it's certainly not too bad
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>>30889748
>it says worst

?
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>>30889715
Exactly? /vp/ seems to like it. It had some good elements, people can't stand that and will shit all over it because it brings in the (you)s, 4chans only version of an upvote.
>>30889734
>majority of fanbase
>all the comics/fan art of of BW
LOL Made me reply.
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>>30889748
X Y weren't BAD, but they certainly weren't great. Just really underwealming for the first 3d game in the series.
It gave us Malamar though so I can't hate it.
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>>30889759
>>30887742
>Which did you like least

>Gen 4
>Gen 2
>Gen 5
>All tied


Are you a Kalosperm?
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>>30889780
Gen 4 is the most liked gen on /vp/ yet its fans are nowhere near as cancerous as unovafags.
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>>30889765
Except the first one is far better as a story. The second one was absolute shit.
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>>30889816
>Not liking based Squid
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>>30887578
>best
u enjoying your happy meal anon?
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>>30889812
how the fuck is that tied?

do you have brain damage?
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>>30889780

>he thinks /vp/ has any sort of meaningful opinion
>vague claim that it has good elements followed by fallacy of motive
>continues reddit boogeyman

If you're relying on /vp/ to back up your insecurities, I can't even begin to imagine how autistic you are.
>>
>>30889797
>My first shiny

Holds a special place in my heart

Although I have some shame in it's nickname which was something about it being shiny
>>
>>30887578
Idk, why did I get banned for making a thread saying ORAS is better than SuMo and you're not?
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>>30889780
>all the comics/fan art of of BW

And yet it's still the least popular of all regions. Really makes me think.
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>>30889847
One of the jannies is a unovafag. I got banned for making a thread criticizing the obsession over the PWT.
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>>30889837
I forgot the word almost tied

Gen 2 and 5 are tied though
>>
>>30889847
mods can be unovabortions too
>>
>>30889826
I typically consider them one overarching story, it helps B2W2 a lot
>>
>>30889814
That's because they aren't totally shat on by bait poster.
>Bad graphics
>Bad music
>Bad mons
>Lol bad story
Everytime, and it's bait that works.
BW2 were genuinely good games, and people can't seem to accept that.
>>
>>30889673

Did you know that just because a generation is not a person's favorite, doesn't mean they hate the generation.
>>
>>30889847
One of the mods is almost certainly a unovababy. It's strange though, they don't seem to be doing anything about all these people shitting all over it ITT.
>>
>>30889896
>BW2 were genuinely good games, and people can't seem to accept that.

Wow it's almost like people have different opinions than you!
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>>30889904
You wouldn't know that browsing /vp/. Everyone calls XY/ORAS shit games.
>>
>>30889916
Because their arguments are pretty bad.
Paper thin with no weight behind them, and as soon as you use the
>Wow it's almost like people have different opinions than you!
They get all pissy and use them meaningless buzzwords.
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>>30889896

Except when people present reasons why B/W 2 was at best a middling update to B/W, Unovababs lose their shit and start grabbing for (You)s. If genfivers didn't dedicate so much time to being insecure, there wouldn't be any drama.
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>>30889909
There's literally a porn thread right next to this one anyways
>>
>>30889941

>citation needed
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>>30889941
Or maybe people didn't like gen 5 because they didn't enjoy them.

They don't have to argue their point. They simply didn't have a good time playing them compared to other gens.
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>>30887742
>Gen "Shitty Level Curve, Horrid Pokemon Distribution, and Butchered Kanto" 2
>Gen "Slow as fuck, 3 Million Legendaries, and Remake that didn't fix shit in the original"
>Best
What's wrong with people?
>>
>>30889814
>Sinnohfags not cancerous
Top kek
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>>30890001
Maybe they don't have superior tastes like you :(
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>>30889909
because the OP praises it
unovaborted mods probably think the thumbnail and the text is enough to force ther shitty tastes on clueless anons
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>>30890012
Re-read.

They are cancerous, but they're a tumor compared to the leukemia that is unovafags.
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>>30889942
And Gen 4 fags all just seem to completely ignore their games' issues as if they magically don't exist
>>
>>30889991
Well then don't complain how something is the worst if you don't have a reason to argue why it is the worst
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>>30889424

Good. After ORAS, I don't even want Gen 4 remakes.
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>>30890040
Gen 4 fag here. Game is slow
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>>30890046
It's all subjective, which you fail to grasp.

Personally, I dropped BW after beating the game and didn't even bother touching the "post-game". Only Pokemon game I have under 100 hours in.
>>
>>30890076
Then why are you arguing about something that you find subjective?
>>
I don't get why people act like your favorite gen is always the one you started with or grew up with or whatever. I love B2W2 but they were far from my first Pokemon game. I started with Sapphire and Gen 3 is probably one of my least favorite gens.
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>>30889950

if this thread gets deleted soon, it confirms that unovafag mod theory
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>>30889991
And you're entitled to that opinion, but namecalling, making shit posts baiting others, and being a shitter "just so I can shit on this gen" shouldn't be ok. If you don't like gen 5, I'm perfectly ok with that.
>>30889987
Check out THESE fags >>30887742 >>30887827
>>30888119
>>30888121
>>30888243
>>30888355
>>30888477
>>
They're the same garbage style as the rest of Gen 5 but if you can get past that at least you can get non-shit pokemon this time around and challenge mode is decently fun.

5/10, Platinum, HGSS and SM are better
>>
>>30890099
I don't "find" it subjective. It is subjective. If you think it's objectively you're only kidding yourself.
>>
>>30889759
So it's hated by people who didn't even buy it?

It probably has nothing to do with the fact that gens 3 and 4 completely stagnated the franchise, right?

I guess people loved DP more than Platinum, after all those sold much better.
Makes a lot of sense, thanks for your input.
>>
>>30890099
There's reasons to discuss something besides saying shitposting over what is "objectively" "the best".
>>
>>30887738
>How it's presented by Unovabortions
>Genwunners vs sane pokemon fans
>How it actually is
>Unovabortions vs sane pokemon fans

Enjoy your crappy games Unovacuck, meanwhile I'll be here playing Sun and Moon, sucessful versions of what Black and White were trying to be
>>
>>30890129

>First post is actual data on 5th Gen's failure outside of /vp/s hugbox
>Several others are people just expressing their opinion on why is was not an optimal pokemon adventure for them

Meanwhile the entire rest of the thread is 5th genners screaming at the top of their lungs with zero arguments presented. Source: this thread.
>>
>>30890250
>Sun and Moon, sucessful versions of what Black and White were trying to be
What?

I don't even see what you mean by this
>>
>"gen 5 is the best :)"
>"no it isn't"
>"YOU JUST HAVE SHIT TASTE, YOU DON'T GET IT, YOU'LL LEARN ONE DAY"
>>
>>30890254
>First post is actual data on 5th Gen's failure outside of /vp/s hugbox
>selling millions of copies is a failure
>>
>>30890250
SM was more like them trying to be Gen 5 but they got lazy halfway in and used Gen 6 as a substitute.
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>ITT: people can't just like all gens

Why do idiots always have to turn something with multiple options into some opinion war when you can just reasonably enjoy any instead of picking one and yelling about it a lot? You people confuse me.
>>
>>30890254
>failure
>BW as the 7th best selling ds game and DP as the 6th
>the last game sold on the ds manages to be the 10th most sold beating platinum a year after much more advanced hardware came out

>failure
>>
>>30890332
I like all gens. In fact, gen 5 is my second favorite. I only really have a problem with cancerous gen 5 fans that hail it as the peak of Pokemon and get mad when people point out its flaws.
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>>30890332
Where do you think we are bud?
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>>30890254
Because it should be obvious what Gen 5 did right.
>Introduced a means of 3rd tier abilities
> PWT
>The item sorting system was superior, and hasn't been mastered since BW. The ease of access to key items was stellar.
>Not all the new pokemon were great, but that every gen. The point is to make new bros.
> So many new items, I really miss gems.
>I'm not going to get into story, I though it was alright, but the more I look back, the more I wish pokemon never became story oriented.
>Say what you will, I miss dream world, and I hate GF for keep some pokemon abilities DW only. Mostly fossils.
>Trainer classes had different means of battles, while I enjoyed Ace trainers double/triple battle system, I hate breeder because all they would do is an unskippable rematch.
>Black city/white forest was amazing
>Ease of access to legendary mons
There are parts of these that are hit/miss for some people, but this is what I genuinely enjoyed.
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>>30890348
Well it's flaws aren't "everything is wrong with it". I hate replying to bait, but people seem to genuinely think this.
>>
>>30890369
It isn't just /vp/, 4chan, or the Internet. It;s literally everywhere.

Like sports teams, politics, religons, whatever. People get way too mad over shit
>>
>>30890438

>"Everything is wrong with it"

Said nobody ever.
>>
>>30890484
Clearly you've missed a lot of Gen 5 haters. I'm sure most that say that shit are baiting, but there's definitely people who actually argue that
>>
>>30890446
Because people are passionate about things. But being passionate means susceptible to being blind to other people's opinions.
>>
>>30890484
>>30888671
This guy did, an there was a bunch of threads before this.
>>
>>30890517
Eh I just don't get it. I've never really been too passionate about something like that though, so I guess I wouldn't fully understand.

Eitherway, it's certainly dumb
>>
>>30890396

>B/W item sorting was clunky
>Every generation has a blend of poor designs, average designs, and highly regarded designs. 5th Gen happens to have a massive degree of poor designs, and having a handful of decent designs do not make up for this.
>Gimmicky items people didn't want.
Gen III also did this and it was poorly received.
>Dream World was just a postgame time occupier to allow access to HA
And now we have SOS, which is infinitely easier.
>Trainers with five magikarps and the same low-level pokemon repeated over and over
>Black City/White Forest were not that special. It's a version graphical difference.
>Every gen has a set of legendaries you can get easily, and every remake has provided a metric assload of legendaries basically for free. This is not a unique feature.
>>
>>30890528

yes, many threads which were rife with 5th genners basically spamming threads of baiting and diarrhea. 5th Gen itself - an underwhelming generation, but not a bad one - is not the problem. The rapid defense force is the issue.
>>
>>30890560
But you could press a button and it would be instantly sorted? And you could press Y for almost instant access for Bikes and Fly?

Opinion. I will defend some of them, not all.

People loved gems, it MADE acrobatics and unburden usable.

Completely agree.

This one doesn't refute my argument.

You didn't play the game did you?

BW2 did it better than ORAS with the retarded hoops.
>>
I've never played BW2, was tempted to do a role play run of it for the first time.
>>
>>30887742
lel
>>
>>30889780
>>all the comics/fan art of of BW
if all there is to draw is turds that's what people are going to draw
>>
>>30890347
>muh last DS game
if a new title in a series you really enjoy is released on a previous-gen console but the latest-gen unit you have is fully compatible with it out of the box and plays it flawlessly, would you skip it just because of what the box it comes in says?

do you think that the millions of DSes sold were all just chucked in unison the second the 3DS came out or that people only liked pokemon as long as it was current with their hardware?

do you realize how shoddy a point this is to attribute to the "success" of anything? it's not like the DS or its games were dead at that point by a longshot
>>
>>30887742
XD
I am tired of /vp/ thank you.
>>
>>30888460
It has a completely different story and legend.
>>
They aren't the best, but they are really really good
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>>30887742
>Diamond and Pearl sold better than Ruby and Sapphire
What the fuck
Is it because of this?
In my experience, it was red/blue and gold/silver being popular in elementary school, ruby/sapphire being popular among the younger kids in elementary school but also played by some in the last couple of grades of elementary, then diamond/pearl and black/white being lame and only played by the loser autists in middle school and high school.
>>
>>30890058
>After ORAS

First of all, ORAS being a bad remake, doesn´t mean that DP remakes will be bad as well. It´s flawed logic.

And also, ORAS were fantastic remakes, you need to drop this meme.
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>>30889484
>The fact that gen 5 is so polarizing (most people hate it, some people love it) should tell you that it was a mistake.

[citation needed]
>>
>>30887742
I blame the anime and the fact that BW1 was shit
>>
>>30890560
>5th Gen happens to have a massive degree of poor designs, and having a handful of decent designs do not make up for this.
>my opinion is a fact
>>
>>30890001

Retards blinded by nostalgia.
>>
>>30887578
These games were shit. Worst games of pokemon srsly is this thread a bait?
>>
>>30888028
>more then
>>
>>30898896
probably one of the worst parts of gen V for me personally (other than the lame atmosphere) was the sheer amount of thematically artificial designs like vanillice that just push the boundaries of "pokemon actually invented these things guys!" hand-waving too far

the dex just really didn't appeal at all to me, even stuff that should have been okay just had weird proportions or overly "sharp" edges like the snivy line that triggered the shit out of me, I know it's a game about magical animals, but I still like magical animals that feel somewhat "grounded" enough that they don't torture the imagination
>>
>>30900618
>the sheer amount of thematically artificial designs

You mean all four of them?
>>
>>30887638
But Gastly is available at the White Tree Hallow iirc.
>>
>>30890446
a lot of people don't know how to accept other people's opinions

it sucks but that's how a lot of humans are sadly
>>
>>30890001
stay mad
>>
>>30887742
Those numbers are wrong.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon
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