Make a shitty move more viable, give it to something that you

Kinesis

100% accuracy and lowers enemy accuracy by 2 stages

>>30881917
>Fissure

Give it 70% accuracy.

>>30881992
>>30882087
anons pls

>>30881917
tackle
buff to 103 base power

Leech Life

buff to 80 base power

Sheer Cold

>70% accuracy. 100% in hail. If it hits, it causes 2 other pokemon in the opponents team to faint.

>Detect
Now ignores Feint and Infiltrator.

>Wild Charge
Now it has 100 BP and has a chance of inflict paralysis on the opponent.

>Mega Punch and Mega Kick
Now they have 100% accuracy and depending of the move it has a chance of: Mega Punch has increased critical hit rate, Mega Kick can lower the opponent's Speed by -1.

>Brutal Swing
Give it a 25% chance to Flinch.

>Rock climb
Make it rock type and with 100 on accuracy

>>30881917
And lowers 2 Stages of defense

Let's fix shitty signature moves:

>Barrage
It's now Grass-type and reclassified to Special.

>Mist Ball and Luster Purge
Now both have 95 BP.

>Doom Desire
Now when the user uses this move its bulk is increased by 50% until the move fails or hit in the second turn.

>Roar of Time
n/a

>Glaciate
Now it has 80 BP.

>Relic Song
Now has 100% of causing sleep but can only be used by Meloetta-Aria (aka can only be used once).

>Land's Wrath
Now has 110 BP.

>Core Enforcer
Now is reclassified as Physical and is a Physical version of Psyshock (aka a Physical move that depends on opponent's Special Defense)

>Razor Wind

Hits on the turn it's used, uses the opponent's lowest defensive stat to calculate damage and ignores priority.

>>30882691
>Mega Kick can lower the opponent's Speed by -1.
So it raises speed by 1?

>Constrict
Raise power to 20-30bp, lowers speed by 2 stages

>Roar of Time
Now a two turn charge move, third turn insta kills.
Before the move hits on the third turn, if user is still alive, the battle reverts to exactly as it was when the move started: HP, status, Pokemon on the field, or return to as they were, and the opposing pokemon faints.

example:
>opponent withdraws Xerneas, sends out Groudon
>Dialga used Roar of Time!
>end of turn one
>Groudon used Earthquake! Dialga loses 90% HP
>end of turn two
>Roar of Time activated! Time went backwards
>Xerneas faints
>Dialga back to full health

>>30881917
Dual Chop becomes part Dragon and part Fighting with +20 BP on the second chop

>stealth rock

stacks up to 3x

>>30883229
Let me fix this for you

>Roar of Time Activated! Time went backwards
>It doesn't affect the opposing Xerneas...

>>30883289
Status moves ignore attack immunities like Perish Song works on Ghost-Types, you fucking subterranean troglodyte.

>>30881917
>Wild Charge
120 BP, 1/3 of the damage dealt is taken as recoil, 10% chance to Paralyze the target.
>Volt Tackle
150 BP, 80 Accuracy, 1/2 of the damage dealt is taken as recoil, 20% chance to Paralyze the target.
>Catastropika
BP increased to 240, otherwise identical to current form.

Kyurem now learns Ice Hammer.

Thundurus and Tapu Koko now learn Bolt Strike, like how Entei got Sacred Fire out of the blue last gen.

>Bind
>The Target cannot move while under attaack

Hyper Beam (and all equivalents)

If it kills an opponent it skips recharge

>>30883229
That seems way too strong. If it's going to be that potentially powerful, make it so Sketch fails on it and any Pokemon who uses it that isn't Dialga, Arceus, or that one movie Darkrai fails

>>30883639
I would personally love this top be the case.

>Pound
Now has a 20% chance to flinch.

>Scratch
Now has a high chance to crit. 10% chance to lower opponents defense 1 level.

>Vice Grip
Prevents opponent from switching out/escaping until the user switches out/faints.

>Cut
Lowers opponent's defense 2 levels.

>Teleport
Allows user to switch out even while under the effects of Shadow Tag/Mean Look/other trapping effects.

>Ominous Wind/Ancient Power/Silver Wind
+5 PP

>Final Gambit
Deals damage equal to 1.5x the user's current remaining HP. Priority +1

>Confide
Also causes confusion.

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>>30881917
thanks anon, i owe ya a solid now dont i?

>>30883519
>he doesn't know Gen I Wrap: the meta

>>30884182
actually forgot about this dude kek. I was thinking of Scizor myself though. Technician Rock Smash at 90 BP and the Defense drop would be absurd.

>>30882087
Why dont you just fuck off. Honestly,no one cares about that complete shit opinion, take a hike you fruit.

>>30882961
>Buffing Lands Wrath

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trump_Card_(move)

Trump Card

Make the words MAGA flash on the screen. Make it ??? type which changes to STAB
Make the power chart 60-70-95-130-200

>>30881917
Cut.

50-70 base power.
Grass type.
super effective on grass types

>>30883388
>thinking thunder wave works on ground types

>>30884784
What would you use, Land's Wrath or Earthquake? Obviously Earthquake because it's the one with higher BP.

>>30881917
>Moonblast clones (95 BP, 100 Acc, 30% chance to lower Special Attack)
Flash Cannon, Bug Buzz, Energy Ball, Aurora Beam

>Liquidation clones (85 BP, 100 Acc, 20% chance to lower Defense)
X-Scissor, Drill Peck, Crush Claw

>>30884874
>grass type

That was a shit idea in romhacks and its a shit idea here now.

>>30885552
In doubles it hits both enemies. It also doesn't get weakened by Grassy Terrain. Regardless, Zygarde should use Thousand Arrows.

>>30881917
Incenerate
>is essentially now a fire type knock off, no longer hits multiple foes in double battles

>>30885061
Thunder wave is the only status move specifically coded to follow type matchups. This is true to the extent that normalize delcatty can hit ground types but not ghost types with it.

Every other status move does not care about type immunities. This is not to say that they can always work: for example, since steel types are immune to poisoning and the only effect of the move toxic is to poison, it seems like it doesn't hit because of type matchups, but that's not the case: poison moves like gastro acid do hit steel types.

>>30882615
but...

make guillotine lower the enemy pokemon's speed if it hits
maybe usable then

>>30888523
>make guillotine lower the enemy pokemon's speed if it hits
This is a joke, right?

>Poison Sting
Buff to 30 damage and poison chance now 50%

>Peck
Now works like a lower damage Pluck

>Flame Burst
Deals equal damage to all targets, but BP is lowered to 60

>Aqua Tail
Accuracy is 100%
OR
Higher critical hit ratio

>Flame Burst
Deals damage to adjacent pokemon equal to half the damage dealt to the target pokemon (rationale is that flammable pokemon produce a bigger boom whereas retardant pokemon create a less explosive combustion)

>Screech & Metal Sound
90-95% accuracy

>Smart Strike
85 Power

>Darkest Lariat
Only ignores target stat boosts, but still takes into account target stat losses
90 Power
15 PP
(basically Sacred Sword, but Dark-type)

>Sparkling Aria
Also heals the user's burn
AND/OR
95 Power

>Flash Cannon
90 Power

>Rock Smash
60 Power

>>30881917
>Hyper Beam, Roar of Time, Rock Wrecker, Giga Impact, Blast Burn, Hidro Canon, Frenzy Plant, Prismatic Lazer
These moves now reduce your SpAtk/Atk by 3 stages after usage.

>scald
>100% chance to burn
>30% of confusion
>190 base power

This is how some of you sound

Magnet Rise
>Can now be used on allies in double battles
Entrainment
>Now a TM learnable by most Pokes like Hidden Power
Quash
>Decreases a random stat 1 stage on the target
All Z-status moves
>Can now be blocked by taunt
>are now correctly affected by Contrary

>>30884806
Keep it normal type and it'll get use on Sylveon

Guillotine now has 100% accuracy on paralyzed opponents.

>>30892628
entertainment on everything sounds very fun to play around with in doubles

>Slam, Power: 80, Accuracy: 75%
50% chance to paralyze
50% chance to flinch

>Mega Kick, Power: 120, Accuracy: 75%
Change to Fighting type
Accuracy change to 85%

>Horn Attack, Power: 65, Accuracy: 100%
Not affected by resistance or foe stat ups.

>Astonish, Power: 30, Accuracy: 100%, 30% chance to flinch, 2x dmg to Minimize user
Damage is doubled if user goes first

>>30881917
>Rock Slide
80 BP, 100% acc, keep the flinch (I know it's not shitty but rock type pokemon suffer a lot for this)
>Fury Attack
20 BP and 100% acc

>>30881992
Kinesis should be move that boosts your accuracy abddrops enemy accuracy

>>30882665
Sheercold gets 50% in hail|

That would be nice.

Every Accuracy: 90-95 move.
>Accuracy: 100

>>30883639
THIS
or:
>Hyperbeam deals damage. The type is the same as the Pokemon thats using it

>>30892548
>pichu used protect

>>30883284
>The opposing trainer sent out Charizard!
>It's a one-hit KO!

Much more moves should have option to choose the target.
FUCKING MILKDRINK

>>30894309
personaly I would delete tm Double team from existence but make almost allthe 100%hit moves 90 and boost not missing moves to 70.

Constrict

Normal-type Anchor Shot.

>>30883229
BITES THE DUST

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>>30894285
>Sheer Cold boosted in Hail
>Fissure boosted in Sandstorm
>Guillotine boosted in Rain

>>30882615
Hahaha that's fucking retarded, it would obsolete X-Scissor on the spot, GF wouldn't do that.

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>>30883229

>>30886038
>Aurora Beam

>buffing Suicune

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>>30881917
>Forest's Curse

Just make it a Grass type Soak instead of adding on Grass as an extra type.

>>30894420
But nothing actually gets Leech Life

>psychic
>100bp
>30% chance for confusion

>Nightmare
Takes away 1/2 HP instead of 1/4.

>Hypnosis
If fails, will always hit the next time.

>Dream Eater
Not affected by weakness or resistance.

>Snore
Will always cause flinch the first time used. Back to 30% afterwards.

>Powder Snow
Buff to 50 damage.
2x damage during Hail.

>>30888293
>thinking will-o-wisp works on fire types

>>30882615
Buff Ancient Power to 80 BP

>>30881917
>Rock Smash
Removes Stealth Rock

>>30894952
This makes sense and it's pretty smart

>>30894542
>Giving Lele more power
Yeah, how about no.

>>30894952
congrats, every singles team now has a rock smasher.

>>30894722
>Writes down the toxic on steel types example knowing the idiot with "w-o-w on fire types" argument was coming
>They still come anyways

>>30894952
So a worse rapid spin that still can't hit ghost types?

>>30895008
>worse rapid spin
Nah, you're retarded.
You have no idea about how much distribution influences the quality of a move. Only a couple of decent mons get Rapid Spin, while pretty much everything gets Rock Smash. Rock Smash also deals more damage and has a clearly superior type.

>>30895118
Worse for the fact that it would only get rid of incognito pebbles, i know most people don't use spikes but lately i've seen a lot of toxic spikes and not every team has a poison type pokemon. Soeaking of which, I might readd gengar in my team

>Spacial Rend
100 power, 95 accuracy, Dragon type
Effect: removes changes from the field ie weather, terrain, hazards and rooms

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>>30881917
>Vine Whip
50 BP, 10% flinch chance

>Absorb / Mega Drain / Giga Drain
40 / 60 / 80 BP

>Solar Blade
140 BP, 90% accuracy
Now learned by Shiftry, Leafeon, Leavanny Chesnaught, and Kartana

>Solar Beam
10% chance to lower target's Accuracy

>Leech Seed
Now traps the target and can be boosted by a Binding Band

>>30895395
Please not Kartrana

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>>30894427
DORA

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>>30895408
>252+ Atk Life Orb Kartana Solar Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Swampert: 1825-2152 (594.4 - 700.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>30895496
What are those stats supposed to indicate? Kartrana can easily OHKO Swampert with Leaf Blade too.

Withdraw
>The opponents next attack does half damage

There's no reason withdraw even exists when there's defense curl and iron defense

>>30888293
>Thinking spore, stun spore, etc. works on grass types.

>>30895508
It could kill everything with a Swampert bulk on a neutral hit

Give Recover or a Recover clone to the jellyfishes and crabs. :^)

>>30895521
Also, should make the next Skull Bash activate instantly like defense curl and rollout

Charge Beam proc is 100%
BP to 65

>>30890314
>>30888523
Hope so

>>30894996
>doesn't know that corrosion let's you poison steel types
I have never seen a more retarded anon on this board LOL

>Dual Chop

Buff it to 50 BP per hit like Bonemerang.

>>30895757
Same goes for Double Hit, Double Kick, Twineedle, and any of those other stupid "hits twice" moves. Make them all Bonemerange/Gear Grind clones.

Hydro Pump Accuracy buffed to 90%-95%.

It doesn't have a TM, and unlike the other elemental 120/110 BP attacks, it has no special effect.
It deserves more accuracy than Fire Blast.

Especially when Scald gives it such competition for the burn effect

>Water pulse
buff it to 75 power and a 30% chance to confuse

>Seed bomb
Has a chance to make the opponent flinch or has a 20% chance to lower defense

>Elemental fangs
Buff to 100% accuracy

>>30895008
Rock smash can actually hit things super effectively, has significantlly more power and has a strong chance of lowering the targets physical defense.

How is it a worse rapid spin?

>>30895395
>Leech Seed
>Now traps the target
Please no.
It's pretty powerful already, no need to buff things like M-Venu, Ferro or Celesteela even more.

Dragon Rush to 85 Acc, Druddigon finally fucking gets it.

Basically every attacking move with BP at 85 or under, make them 100% accurate. No one wants to put up with that shit.

Solar Beam and Razor Wind buffed to 140 BP

Make Hyper Beam and all variants 100% accurate with 160 BP.

>>30881917
Dragon Rush should be buffed to 90% accuracy. It's useless right now.
Or turn Outrage into a Dragon Flare Blitz.

>>30897418
Dragon Rush in its current form would be great on Zygarde.

>>30897282
>Water pulse
>buff it to 75 power and a 30% chance to confuse

Yes, this pleases Blastoise

>>30895348
>all this does is make arceus better

>>30882961
>that doom desire buff
this would make the jirachi strat
1. Doom Desire
2. Toxic
3. Wish/Protect if low
4. Doom Desire if not
5. Spam Doom Desire
6. Toxic next enemy to come out.

>>30898894
That was the main point. Blastoise is and always will be my bromon and it upsets me that he got the short end of the stick when it came to kanto megas. While mega launcher certainly isn't bad (especially now that Blastoise has access to the rarely distributed aura sphere) it objectively sucks when compared to Venusaurs and both of Charizards mega abilities. A water pulse buff would be just the thing to give Blastoise a more competitive edge, maybe even push him into OU status like the other two kanto starter megas.

>Celebrate
Any Pokemon that move after the user celebrate alongside it, ignoring the action it would take this turn. Has the same decreasing success rate as Protect/Detect/so on.

>Terrain/Weather moves
Length is now 7 turns, 10 turns with Terrain Extender/Weather Rocks. The Surge/Weather abilities still make Terrain/Weather that lasts 5 turns.

>>30884731
Assmad icefag detected. How does it feel to know Ice will never be good whatsoever? Stay mad, cuck.

I'd say give Cut a 70% flinch chance and give Gyro Ball to Registeel

Solarbeam raises special attack on the charge turn.

Withdraw is a spikey shield clone, makes skullbash attack immediatly.

Skull bash is now 150 base power

Spike cannon is rock type and special

Rock smash smashes rocks, because fuck punished snake stones.

Explosion buffed to 300 power

Aurora beam is 90 bp, ice beam lowered to 80 to uncuck ice types

Twineedle is 50 bp

Crabhammer has a 10% chance to lower defense

make the move acid have a guaranteed 2 stage defense drop to put it on par with acid spray's 2 stage sp def drop.

toxic thread (ariados's new gen 7 signature move) make the poison it inflicts toxic poison rather than regular.

make rock wrecker gain 50 bp if stealth rocks are up but using the move removes the rocks, doesn't matter which side of the field the rocks are on for the boost to apply. still has to recharge though.

high horsepower gains a 30% flinch chance

rototiller works on ground types as well as grass types and gives +2 to both atk stats rather than +1

metal claw and steel wing have their boost chance raised to 50%

first impression, add a 100% flinch chance to make it like a better fake out, still exclusive to golisopod

Powder lasts 5 turns rather than 1

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>>30899481
>I'd say give Cut a 70% flinch chance