Barely beat the game, holy balls

>>30879576
>eek
eke

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>Boxed starter

>Lycanroc used stealth rock

Oh shit

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>>30879627
>being this casual

>>30879576
>Around level 50
>not using pokemon that are at least 20 levels bellow Kukui

Filthy casuals

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>>30879613
enjoy your shitty slowmon

>>30879576
>Boxed Starter
>Exp share off

I'll give you credit though, at least you only used new pokemon.

>>30879673
Faster than two of OP's team and tied with Oranguru.

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>>30879675
>Whimsicott
>new

Hi, are you new?
The real theme of my team is blackness

>>30879673
>Not having
>Priority moves
>Trick room
>Thinking speed is everything

>>30879705
this though?

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>>30879727
>meme room is viable in-game

Get a load of this guy

>second playthrough
>hits my second to last pokemon critically
>left with 1 hp
>finish him off
>I don't[\spoiler] have sturdy
Why did they let me win?

>>30879745
Defeated both Kukui and Kahili thanks to trick room

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>>30879776
did you use noobgroom?

>>30879745
holy shit

>>30879818
My team was oranguru, decidueye, crabobinable, mudsdale, muk, pyukumuku

>>30879822
Trick room? No

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>>30879878
pokemon refresh

>>30879576

I beat him with my boy Zygarde with the help of my Inceneroar and Wishiwashi.

When his Snorlax came out, I knew I won at that moment cause Zygarde walled it easily with Coil+Rest. The latter two did a joint venture in taking out his Ninetails.

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>>30879627
Because unlike in older games, there was no way it was going to happen otherwise.
>decide to try and cheese the fight by having Mimikyu lower Lycanroc's attack and then pump it full of X items
>Mimikyu at near full HP, +6 Atk/Def/SpD and +4 Spe, and a Dire Hit for good measure
>Lycanroc is OHKO'd
>Magnezone takes two crit Shadow Claws to KO
>Braviary survives a +6 crit Play Rough
>uses WHIRLWIND
I was in deep doo-doo at that point, I only regained momentum some 20 revives later when I finally managed to deal with his Incineroar

>>30879897
No I used pots inbetween battles

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>>30879950
How were you such low level?

>>30879950
What the fuck, how were you so underleveled?

>>30879950
>Those levels
I am proud

>>30879576
>using items in battle

Casual as fuck desu

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I played the same and just finished as well.
I only beat him on the second attempt, it was pretty brutal when he was more than 10 levels ahead of me.
Also the first time the finishing blow was from Disguised Minerals.
Ninetales and Golisopod got overleveled from carrying me through E4.

>>30879950

What is this, a minimum EXP runthrough? Cause when I got to the E4, my team was at levels 48-51

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>>30879989
>>30880002
Because those were far from the only Pokemon I used during the run

>>30880178
>all those really finnish (?) names
>Raichu

I kek'd loudly

>>30879576
i blind nuzlocked
he was super underleveled
his primarina though, z-moved my magneton and almost killed it, he only lived from affection and "toughed it out"
love that motherfucker

>>30880243
I bet you're one of those autists that over-leveled and then complained the game was too easy.

>>30880243
You're not allowed to make the game more challenging for yourself? What?

Don't understand why people switch off exp share.
It just takes out a lot of tedium from raising your pokes. Instead of autistically grinding for hours before/after every town to get everything to one level, it just goes as you go along.
I really like it.
The old games I only play on emulator anymore because I can speed up and thus make grinding at least quick.

>>30880335
i never felt like i needed to grind in SM, maybe you should get gud or something

>>30879641
>tfw I had lycanroc first too
>tfw mine won the mirror match despite being lower leveled
Kukui is easily one of the better champions despite not actually being a champion

>>30879576
Kukui was hard for me too. I set up a shit ton of cosmic powers on my Lunala and then his fucking braviary whirlwinded me out, I then had to redo all of the xspattacks that I used for my sweep attempt

>>30880335
>Having to grind in SM
Unless you count fighting trainers not in the main path grinding then you don't have to grind with the exp share.

>>30880392
>>30880491
I was talking about the games in general. Should have made clear that I was talking about the older games in particular. Because honestly - Blue without speeding up is just tedious.

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>>30879950
>perkele
ebin spurdo sprölölö

>>30880401
You know I'm really glad they actually made him hard
Because imagine a professor who specializes in moves being easy which was what I actually thought was gonna happen, but I'm happy I was proven wrong

>using revives in battle
Fucking casual.

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>>30879576
I second this. This E4 was more challenging than I thought it would (the fighting one at least, and the flying one was quite hard too), but the professor really tore some holes in my team (decidueye-sundoggo-alolan raichu-salazzle-crabominable-golisopod). My team was all around 56 (and because I grinded a little before the league, when facing Gladion I was quite underleveled).

>both open with sun doggo
>both use fucking stealth rock first turn
>braviary used whirlwind
>motherfucker.jpg

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>dog sets up Pebbles
>switches to murrica bird and sets up Tailwind
>starts Whirlwinding

>>30880722
Kukui's kind of an asshole.

>>30880754
the whole point of the exp share is to make it harder for people who enjoy a challenge and easier for people who dont enjoy a challenge. i dont know why you have something against people who enjoy something different than you do

>>30880754
>It's arbitrarily handicapping yourself.
That's precisely what makes it hard you fucking idiot

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>>30880754

>>30880722
>>30880695
>Whirlwind in Tailwind

I don't remember Braviary doing anything on me. Mostly because it was always nuked by Vikavolt whenever it showed its face. It was his only Pokemon that had literally zero impact on the battle.

>>30879950
Are you Finnish?

>>30879950
FUG :DDDD

>>30880889
really for me those stealth rocks really changed my strategy, because of those I couldn't make a lot of switch ins, having my team zero resistances to them and actually having some weaknesses

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>>30880965

I'd get your sperging if people had to do hacky shit to disable exp share

but its literally an in-game option to turn it on or off

So clearly GF meant for people to play it like they want to, rather than some arbitrary designation

so why are you so mad?

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>>30880965
You're the only autist sperging over meaningless shit
Just leave

>>30879576
>revive spamming
Delete your save file, you don't deserve that win.

>>30881050

yeah so that's why the option is there

things don't need to be labeled hard mode

you are a silly man

>>30881050
This must be bait. You just can't make this shit up.

>>30881050
..except you can do that by simply using your other Pokemon.

Including a hard mode is something they should do though.

>>30881118
I guarantee the only reason you think it needs to be labeled hard mode is so that when you beat it you can feel some pathetic pride in beating the game's "official" hard mode instead of just playing it with harder difficulty by turning exp share off for the sake of playing with harder difficulty

>>30881223
Hard mode would equate to the same shit anyway, as instead of just turning exp share off, it'd be designed for exp share on with the opponents having higher levels throughout the whole game.

>>30879576
>His Primarina was nightmarish.
true, and I even used Exp. Share for 50% of the time

>>30879950
mitä vittua sä teet

>>30881294
The whole point of the exp share isn't that it's a "tool" to use for a Playthrough, it's meant to give you a choice of whether or not you want to be even or slightly above the competition level-wise, having it easy, or be below them, and have it hard. Without exp share it sometimes becomes a grind fest, but that's how hard mode RPGs work

>>30879641
That's what made me lose at least 3 times before changing one of my members, and winning next time.

>>30881466
I'm not going to argue that it isn't bad game design, but the fact the exp share is able to toggle between on and off is pretty clearly a difficulty switch, it's not stated outright so that kids who want to play through the game casually don't have to worry about it while older players like us who desire a hard mode know that by toggling it off the game becomes harder

>No exp share, lv50 team
>Set mode
>Zero in-battle items allowed
>Win by a Black Sludge/Protect Muk with 27 HP left

Probably my favorite champion battle and I've been playing since Red.

>>30881352
The whole point of items isn't that it's a "tool" to use for a Playthrough, it's meant to give you a choice of whether or not you want to be even or slightly above the competition level-wise, having it easy, or be below them, and have it hard. Withouti items it sometimes becomes a grind fest, but that's how hard mode RPGs work

Funnily enough, Playing without the exp share is basically like playing without it in any pre-gen 6 Pokemon game, since before that the exp share made you gain exp slower for the most part :/

>>30881574
I don't understand why you replied to me with this, you're 100% right, items exp share all this shit is just ways to modify difficulty, it doesn't need to be a clearly labeled difficulty called "hard"

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>>30881647
The whole point of Evolving isn't that it's a "tool" to use for a Playthrough, it's meant to give you a choice of whether or not you want to be even or slightly above the competition level-wise, having it easy, or be below them, and have it hard. Without Evolving it sometimes becomes a grind fest, but that's how hard mode RPGs work.

They even say pressing the "B" button stops your Pokemon from evolving. But you CHOOSE to evolve your Pokemon to make the game easier. But you CHOOSE to turn the EXP Share off.

Hypocritical much?

>>30880335

Its because with Gen 6 not being balanced around the EXP share at all (its actually balance around using the Lucky Egg with EXP share turned off), you either end up hilariously overleveled or underleveled.

So when SM came around, people (like me) just instinctively turned off the EXP share in fears it would have XY shit tier level scailing.

>>30881732
How is that hypocritical? Is it so wrong to make the game hard in your own ways? That's the kind of the whole point of having all these options, is so you can play the game the way YOU want to play it.

>>30879576
You are pretty stupid OP

I agree that exp is lame if you leave it on the entire game but if you dont use it all you are really putting yourself behind.

You may think you are hardcore for that but by using 30 revives you are essentially negating any difficulty that you wanted by turning off exp share. That is just a waste of time and alot less fun than fighting them the right way by being within one or two levels of the trainers Pokemon

>has a team of underwhelmed pokemon
>game is hard

OP Kukui is impossible to beat. I fought him with a team of level 20 Pokemon and he just kicked my ass

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>>30881555
same
it was awesome

I love playing like that

>>30881785
If you need to make self-imposed challenges to make up for the lack of "hard mode," that's bad game design.

If you're saying turning off the EXP Share is hard mode, what's to say choosing not to evolve your Pokemon is also hard mode?
What's to say not using Pokemon Centers is also hard mode?
What's to say not using TMs or completing the game under a self-imposed 10 hour time limit is also hard mode?

>>30879950
I have never seen an ugly Chickenchan before

>>30881847
Those are ALL ways of making your own hard mode, I'm not trying to say that turning exp share off is the definitive hard mode experience, but it is an option

I seemed to have a hard time with fucking everything in this game, my team's types were very imbalanced and didn't patch up each other's weaknesses well. Fuck, all the Elite 4 members were super effective against them except for Acerola.

>>30879576
>turned exp share on when arrived at Poni so I wouldn't be too underleveled
>used Rapid Spin Tsareena so I could rekt his Lycanroc
>STILL gives me some trouble
That Braviary is bulky as fuck and even after fainting it gives trouble thanks to Tailwind support.

>>30880515
You must have hated Gen 2 and the remakes then because that level curve is insane. Most games have the champion or E4 be the jump in levels but GS/HGSS had that jump throughout the game.

>>30883228
It's not noteworthy in GSC/HGSS because the teams are so weak and the games in general are so easy.

My team was well leveled and consisted of
>Primarina
>Toucannon
>Goliosopod
>Lurantis
>Lunala
>Drampa (not really I just slapped it on since I had 1 space left)

And I was just able to win without any items. It was a very close watch. It came down to 1vs1 with Primarina and Snorlax.