Why do its wings look like that?

>>30866391
Ask gamefreak

>>30866391
Much easier to model and animate.

>>30866391
Because it is an ugly shitmon that ruined rowlet.

It has hands at the end of its wings so it can actually use its bow wing thing without looking weirder than normal

>>30866429
Shit taste

>>30866429
this
although dartrix or whatever wasn't that great either
Rowlet was too good for this world.

>>30866488
>cartoonish nerd owl that doesn't look like an owl anymore or anything like its prevos really, with a shoehorned edge typing.

You have shit taste anon.

>>30866429
This. Rowlet is the only good one in its entire line.
>>30866488
Shittier taste.

>>30866429
>Rowlet
>Good in the first place

>>30866503

Dartrix is a bit of a shitter but even then a good third evo could have saved it.

I instantly loved little rowlet. Purest round barn owl. Why did they go ruin it with this shit looking thing? Why the fuck doesn't it have the creepy white mask anymore: the thing that actually gives barn owl the occasional name of ghost owls.

>lets give it a green falcon looking face instead with stupid orange fucking 'glasses' instead of creepy slit eyes likes its prevos, perfect for ghost. Instead it gets ghost typing whilst ditching all the actual creepy design aspects of owls for 'muh archer'.

>>30866587
>"It doesn't look like an owl because I only vaguely know what owls look like"
Every fucking time

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>>30866636
Thinking Deshitdueyes abomination face looks better and creepier than an actual fucking barn owl.

>>30866796
>Rowlet line is all barn owls
No

>>30866859
Except it is.

Apart from the one shitmon who goes and fucking ruins it for no reason.

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>>30866391
The fact that a penguin looks like a better owl is ridiculous.

>>30866975
>Prinplup
>looks more like an owl than decidueye
nigga are you blind

>>30866914
>Except it is except when it isn't.
I love people like you. Never change.

>>30866990
>better = more
buddy are you dumb

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>>30866859
The only other possible inspirations and most likely it was is the pueo and Deshitdueye does it no justice.

>>30866391
no speed

>>30866995
>Rowlet is a barn owl
>Dartrix is a barn owl
>suddenly Deshitueye isn't because GF wants to pander to the edgy 13 year olds

Retard.

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>>30866995
Thats the entire fucking point you fuck.

Rowlet and Dartrix are clearly perfectly stylized barn owls and a third creepy barn owl would have been great.

Except at the last minute they go and detract from the creepy barn owl elements whilst simultaneously making it a ghost type.

>>30867055
I don't know how one could go to creepy from Rowlet and Dartrix...

>>30867033
I'm not even sure what you're saying at this point. You said "it doesn't have the creepy white mask anymore" but somehow not having that makes it edgy? Making it look more like a lame nerd makes it edgier?

Is it because it's a ghost type that it's edgy? Do you hate all ghost types the same way? Or is it just because it becomes a ghost type? Do you hate Alolan Marowak the same way?

If you think it looks dumb and nerdy and not as "creepy" as its prevo, then how is it "edgy"?

So when it has them closed they look like a cool cape.

>>30866391
>dork ass bitch face
>is supposed to be the "cool" starter
heh

>>30867070
Edgy for a last minute uturn type change with a signature move with tge edgiest name going: spirit shackle.

It gains a fucking HOOD for crying out loud. Of cause its meant to be edgy.

>>30867126
But you wanted it to be creepy? If it was still a barn owl but kept the hood, spirit shackle, and ghost type, you wouldn't think it's edgy, you'd be eating it up. From what you've told me the only actual reason you dislike it is because it's not a Barn Owl.

You want it to be creepy but then when they give it creepy things like the ghost type and a ghost move, you complain.

>>30867166
Lol.

The things they give it feel forced as fuck. Thats tge difference. They didnt have the design sense to build on what they had, they had to go full 'surprisu' with the shitty hooded edgy 'I am the night' barely-owl and took away the defining aspect of the line and the owl its based on.

>>30867166
That's because it isn't creepy at all. It was literally given a ghost type to pander to edgelords and it didn't keep any of its prevos elements or even just a similarity to a barn owl. So yes, Deshitueye is a sad excuse for a final evo and ruined what could have been the best starter line in years.

>>30867166
Kill yourself you stupid faggot Decishiteye is garbage and you deserve to die for liking it

>>30867252
not anon but

there's no need to get so aggresive

>>30867166
Literally everything about Decidueye screams edgy what the fuck are you talking about faggot, even it's colors are edgy you sperglord. Game Freak needs to commit suicide for ruining a creepy barn owl by making it edgy trash and you need to commit suicide too.

>>30867276

>>30867260

>>30867217
>the defining aspect
But it still has that. It's still a green owl.

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>>30866914
No.

Dartrix is pueo owl (note coloration of the plumage on the pueo) while Decidueye is a stilt. It also goes in line with a progression of Common -> Endangered -> Extinct.

>But bulbapedia sa--

Bulbapedia is stupid and wrong. Even if we take it's suggested origin as fact, Pueo owls are supposed to be ancestor spirits, which is what Decidueye is, and stilt owls, which is what Dartrix is claimed as on the page, is not a barn owl. They all have different taxonomy.

>>30867126
>hoods are edgy
sure thing.

>>30866429
>>30866534
Rowlet had an ok design. It's evos had not

>>30866488
>>30866636
>>30866859
>>30866995
>>30867070
>>30867166
>Liking legitimately the worst Pokemon in the franchise

>>30867297
They could have given it a much better design, though.

>>30867166
*theres also several aspects of it's design I dislike: the barely-wings that are contrived to make its archer shtick work, the stupid fucking FACE I can't stand it. The shitty looking feather on the head. The ruffled thing going on with its chest. The orange cross bowtie that seems to be trying to evoke dying leaves but isn't strong enough to do anything to the general design. The shitty dangling hoody tassels. The whole leaf cloak looks pretty shit, it could have been done better.

Basically could Dartrix' evo have been done better? Yes. Making it an archer is contrived and gimmicky and they ruined the design for the sake of it. General knife/blade throwing would still have been cool but no, gamefreak and their 'surprisu' mentality means Starters always have to have unexpected far out designs, for better or most often, for worse.

>>30867276
>>30867231
>>30867055
>>30866796
>>30866587
How exactly are either of the pre-Evolutions 'creepy?'

>>30867324
Oh, absolutely. I'm neutral on Decidueye's design but it could have been a lot better. That's been the story for almost every starter for me since Hoenn.

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>>30867126
>It gains a fucking HOOD for crying out loud. Of cause its meant to be edgy.

Yes.

Hoodies are Edgy.

>>30867312
That's not any gen two pokemon though.

>>30867381
delete

>>30867351
That's pretty much the complaint though. Decidueye should have at least attempted to be creepy, if it was gonna be edgy anyways, but nope, just ruined the Rowlet line for good.

>>30867312
apologize to gen 2, they're the worst

>>30867519
Why though? Outside of malevolent spirits, ghosts in Hawaii are supposed to be ancestors looking after their descendants, or guardian spirits. And it fits with the three new ghost types of Alola as a benevolent one. What would making it creepy have accomplished but please Owltair and Ballio fans?

>>30866391
It's not a flying type anymore and the wings are for show.

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>>30867297
Except there are dark members of the barn owl group: for example the aptly named African Grass owls.

It seems the pueo was potentially supposed to an inspiration for decidelyshitdueye but it is poorly implemented.

>>30867665
it can clearly fly tho

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>>30867297
You tell me anon you tell me.

>>30867707
May I direct you to >>30867362

Cherrypicking isn't very hard, is it?

>>30866391
They should have given it wings similar to Fearow's.

Decidueye's wings look flimsy and ugly.

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>>30867763
Pic related

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>>30867362
Hoods are edgy.

Hoodies are comfy everyday clothing article.

>>30866391
I wish we got ballio instead of these shit starters

>>30867055

I'd kill for that design.

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>>30867798
And a Hoodie what Decidueye has considering the the hoodie strings

You're actually arguing that this fucking nerd bird is edgy and I find that hilarious

>>30867679
How about the fact that it's name is a portmanteau of Dart and Strix, which is part of a different taxonomic family than the Barn Owl.

Barn Owls are Tytonidae, while Strix are part of the Strigidae family.

>>30867859
>inb4 english names don't matter

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>>30867665
Decidueye's z move has it flying though

>>30867892
If we take this into account, the names focus more on the dart and archer part across languages and the start and Dartrix only serves to bridge the gap

Could say the same about >>30867362

The general intended effect of a hood in fiction is to add mystery and shadow veiled intention. I.e. edginess.

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>>30867637
I presume you forgot about Dhelmise. Hardly benevolent.

Because barn owls are inherently creepy. They're not also known as ghost owls, demon owls, death owls and masked owls for nothing. The fact they couldn't fully channel the creepiness of barn owls and went with edgelord archer instead is sad. Rowlet and Dartrix both emphasis the sorta unsettling white mask and Eerie eyes of a barn owl but Deshitdueye does neither.

>>30868210
sorry anon but I can't find an apple unsettling

>>30867842
Lol so it manages to be nerdy and autistic as well as trying to be edgy.

>>30867859
How about fact that strix just literally means just means owl in latin and dartrix is just one localized name. You fuck. Take your wikepedia contrarian arse and go fuck yourself.

>>30868068
*As in cherry picking

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>>30868210
Yeah, I forgot Dhelmise but that thing isn't even malevolent. Dex entry even if taken to be aggressive, only talks about how strong it is.

>>30868210
>Because barn owls are inherently creepy
Only in African and Spanish cultures, which is not Hawaiin.

>Rowlet and Dartrix both emphasis the sorta unsettling white mask and Eerie eyes of a barn owl
I think the fact you think Rowlet looks unsettling speaks more about you rather than Decidueye's poor design.

>>30868298
>How about fact that strix just literally means just means owl in latin and dartrix is just one localized name
>It's latin for owl! It's not like we get half of our words from latin and all taxonomic names are greek.

>>30868430
As in the anon trying to refer it to a specific taxonomic rank when its only applicable in english anyway is fug.

>>30866457
Both Reshiram and Archeops have hands in the right place for birds. I don't know why they suddenly forgot how wings work for the one bird pokemon that is designed to make use of its hands

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>>30868396
No I mean in general, not culturally . They are creepy looking. Look at their freaking eyes and weird mask faces. They're beatiful but fucking weird looking.

Rowlets big ol starey eyes in its official are creepy. Maybe tis just me though.

>>30867859
Strix (as in the creature) originally applied to barn owls as well. Strix was only co-opted for the genus/family/order much, much later.

I don't mind Decidueye's face by itself, but man, Dartrix --> Decidueye is not a great transition. When the design first leaked, I remember one criticism being that its face wasn't very much like Rowlet's. Adhering closer to a barn owl's face would've made it more ghostly too.

>>30868495
Three languages use Dartrix (English, Spanish and Italian). French is the only one that calls it a barn owl, while all other languages simply call it an owl and focus more on the fact it throws feathers like darts (except German which is basically 'Tree thrower').

Fukuro is from Owl and Throw
Ppaemiseurou is from from olppaemi and throw
Tàuhyúhhīu and Tóuyǔxiāo are basically 'feather throwing owl.'

3/9 of the languages call it a Strix
4/9 call it a (feather) throwing owl
2/9 do their own thing, but still focus on the throwing.

The common link is their way of fighting.

Rowlet in comparison is focused on the fact it is a wood owl, while Decidueye's common naming is in relation to the fact that it is an archer owl.

Look, I'm not trying to say Decidueye is some sort of amazing design. I'm arguing the fact that it fits in line with the evolution progression both culturally and thematically sound.

Losing it's typing, it either goes from Common species -> Endangered Species -> Extinct species, or it fits in with the concept of Pueo owls being ancestor spirits.

Archer design fits in with the dart throwing aspect of Dartrix (which honestly I barely noticed) and taps it off with arrows.

It's a fitting design. Whether or not it's good is somethng else entirely. I got a thousand and one problems with it, but that's just nitpicking.

If you want to see rants about actually awful designs, ask me about Monster Hunter's Glavenus

>>30868646
Oh yeah, as I said in this post, I got tons of problems with Decidueye. The goggles are stupid as hell, the hood should be down to give it a more regal air that Dartrix has, the stupid bow wing, etc.

We go from cute bow tie, to designed like a tuxedo, to Robin Hood (bandit). That's the biggest clash of the design for Decidueye against the rest of the line.

>>30868711
So morelull is a morel yeah?

Often the names that are used are a little nonsensical or require a bit of lateral thinking than being literally representative of the species.

>>30869110
Morelull was just a case of not being able to make a decent portmanteau of mycena and a word for sleep. Mushsnoom would have worked.

I wouldn't call the names nonsensical, but they do usually stretch things. Dartrix being an example if we take it as a Pueo owl inspiration, we're having to go from the species and look up the taxonomy to the family classification.

It's less lateral thinking in a case like this and more leg work.

On that note, Dhelmise is probably one of better named Pokemon this generation aside from Bewear and Mimikyu.

>>30868711
go to /mhg/ if you wanna sperg

>>30869230
But I'm done with /vg/ because my thread got too autistic for me.

It's what I get for liking Senran Kagura

>>30868711
>Godzilla
>bad design

Rowlett and Dartrix still don't look creepy to me imo.

We can all agree that its wing "hands" look dumb as fuck.

>>30869860
I don't care about the hands myself. It's more the fact that every feather is about the same length/width and the wings don't connect to the body in a way that lets them actually catch air.

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>>30866391

It's supposed to look like one of these old western style ponchos with the straps going everywhere.

>>30870004
>Anonymous
Basically they look like utter shite. Whichever cuck at gamefreak OKd Decishitdueye's design should sepuku.

>>30869211

Why would they need to incorporate mycena at all? That is a total fallacy to say every name has to incorporate some kind of taxonomic hijinks. It could have been called Hushroom, or shroominous, fungite or something involving luminosity, sleep and mushroom.

>>30870104
>straps
Tassles.
They're called tassles.

>>30870104
Archer, poncho, hood, pueo, stilt owl, fancy gentleman.

Design is a fucking mess.

>>30870144
I dunno, it all fits in my head.
I did read the Wax and Wayne books from the Mistborn serie though, so I'm a bit used to the "rough and tumble sharpshooter that still dresses up like a gentleman" trope.

To me it's just that one archetype plus owl, so it's pretty amazing design, imo.

>>30870144
or you know you can just reduce it down to
owl + robin hood

>>30870226
Yet it has elements that deviate from that for no good reason. Hell, I can't fucking STAND incineroar but at least it has a tighter theme in:

>tiger mask rip off; heel wrestler whos actually a good guy.

Whereas Decideye is incongruous as fuck. Is it an serious archer? A gentleman assassin? Forest spirit guardian? A cowardly austist?

>>30870250
from wikipedia
"From the 16th century on, there were attempts to elevate Robin Hood to the nobility and in two extremely influential plays, Anthony Munday presented him at the very end of the 16th century as the Earl of Huntingdon, as he is still commonly presented in modern times."

from this site: http://beatofhawaii.com/owls-in-hawaii/
"Owls are all about legend and folklore and have been for centuries. They have a special place in Hawaiian mythology. It is said that they rescue souls from the underworld and safely guide armies."

i dont know what the issue is here buddy

>>30870337
also:
glasses
owls
no brainer

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First leaked
>I hope it's real, it looks cool
>It's the only good one
>The real evo would never be as clever as that

Now
>It's too edgy, fucking hoodies and archers are autistic
>It's design is a mess, what is it even trying to be
As expected of /vp/.

>>30870529
>It's the only good one
It's the least terrible.

>>30866429
I agree. Decidueye isn't completely horrible, but Rowlet was much better.

>>30866587
This. It should have kept the white flat face.

>>30866391
Those wings are one of the reasons I think it's really fucking ugly.

>>30867763
>>30867797
This
The wings look dumb as fuck but would be better if they looked like Fearow's

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>>30866587
>>30867055
>We will never have a Phantom of the Opera based evolution with the creepy opera mask that Erik wore
>Dartrix could have started from a snobby rich adolescence to the 'Angel of Music' or 'Opera-Ghost'
Missed opportunity desu ;_;

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The fact that Decidueye doesn't even look like a Barn owl makes me miss Huntshoot fuck.

>>30870529
>He thinks everyone on /vp/ is part of a collective mind

>>30871641
Primarina looks better.

>>30873167
That piece of shit didn't even look like it could fit as a Pokemon. Same with Ballio.

>>30867349
>*theres also several aspects of it's design I dislike: the barely-wings that are contrived to make its archer shtick work, the stupid fucking FACE I can't stand it. The shitty looking feather on the head. The ruffled thing going on with its chest. The orange cross bowtie that seems to be trying to evoke dying leaves but isn't strong enough to do anything to the general design. The shitty dangling hoody tassels. The whole leaf cloak looks pretty shit, it could have been done better.
this, thank you. there's so many things going on that aren't necessary

>>30873167
(You)

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>>30866391
The third form's face always reminds me of a Spectacled Owl.

>>30868711
>We go from cute bow tie, to designed like a tuxedo, to Robin Hood (bandit). That's the biggest clash of the design for Decidueye against the rest of the line.
Noble Boy/Teen to Robin Hood, like actual Robin Hood.
How did people forget this? It was explained so much after Dartrix was revealed.

>>30873720
>>He thinks everyone on /vp/ is part of a collective mind
lol

>>30866391
It's a manlet in fursuit

>>30866391
Cause it can't fly

>>30875136
??