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Cancer
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>>30814907
I'm sorry to hear about your condition, OP.
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Is that supposed to be choice scarf or focus sash?
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>>30815045
doesn't totally not lusamime run expert belt?
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>>30815045
Sash. Expert belt is black.
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>>30814907
Kek. I like the Choice Specs on Tapu Lele. Also I thought Tapu Koko was the best Tapu?
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>>30814907
>No celesteela
Roach is literally healthy, lel might need to go though.
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>>30816109
Tapu Koko's better in doubles, generally. Due to the power of Drizzle Pelliper giving 100% accuracy 1.5x power Thunder, +Stab.
Lele is better solo, but it with Pheromosa is terrifying.because priority is the major "counter" to Pheromosa.
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those two should get gay married
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>>30815045

Sash, they're different colours and why would Pheromosa run scarf?
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>>30816681
scarf is good if you're running adamant since you'll get the atk boost if you knock something out, you will also outspeed other scarf users too
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>>30814907
Did Pheromosa got the banhammer yet?
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>>30817083
Only if lele goes first.
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>>30817175
What's wrong with Tapu Lele?
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>>30816681

You can give Pheromosa a Scarf and EV it so that its Attack is higher than its Speed.

This way, Beast Boost increases Attack instead of Speed, while the Scarf still makes Pheromosa faster than it normally is.
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>>30817242
Wait, does the increased attack from the scarf count as having higher attack than speed? I thought beast boost calculated base stats.
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>>30816681
Scarf lets you outpseed literally every thing. If you're running +Attack you get the attack from Beast Boost and if you run +Speed you can outspeed things like Sand Rush Excadrill or Slush Rush Sandslash.
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>>30814907
Cancer is cute!
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>>30814907
Best lele is scarf lele though.
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>>30814907
should lele go modest or timid?
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>>30817276
Scarf increases speed.
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>>30816681
To counter scarf greninja for example, and scarf garchomp
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>we've gotten to a point in the meta where you have to run scarf on a Pokemon with 151 speed
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>>30817229
>he doesn't know
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>>30818254
Speed creep is terrifying.
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>>30814907
>using sash on pheromosa
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>>30814907
why could you waste pheromosa with sash?
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>>30818254
>Marow which is highly common in the meta stomps on Pherm

Such a hard fight
>water spider bro can take a choice specs fucking psychic on terrain from lele and hko with liquid

Hmmm
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>>30818254
Scarf Greninja was a thing in early ORAS before Mega Salamence got the boot
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>>30818284
>GF tries to counter speed creep by making most of the Gen 7 Pokémon slow as fuck
>Still managed to make it worse
How would they even counteract speed creep at this point?
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>>30822852
Unsurprisingly Game Freak took the lazy way out once again. They couldn't even balance 81 new Pokemon properly. I guess that's how much the hardcore Pokemon fans mean to them, huh?
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>>30814907
r34 when?
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氣合
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>>30822935
They balance mons with doubles in mind, in that case they're mostly fine
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>>30822852
They actually almost did back in Gen 6 with priority, having multiple priority brackets, stronger mid damage level priority attacks and priority status was what cucked the hell out of fast, strong and bulky sweepers.

I don't think you can change much else short of just straight up redoing the battle mechanics/gameplay system so simply outspeeding something isn't so gamebreaking anymore.

Some fucking hack of a designer decided not to nerf priority but completely destroy it and render it unviable. Psychic Terrain is fucking overpowered simply removing the priority would've been fine, outright negating EVERY move and giving double STAB to Psychic is stupid. Dark types being utterly immune to Prankster specifically is silly. Making Gale Wings a useless ability by requiring full HP instead of just giving it a Weak Knees effect was unnecessary.

You know what would check all those 100+ speed stuff which are also way too fat for how strong and fast they were and are rampaging around? That's right it was priority the ability to give one last fuck you to a sweeper with a paralysis or burn or the ability to pick off something which got super lucky surviving at 2% because of a shitty damage roll.
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>>30824783

What if Game Freak redid stats for all of the competitive-viable pokemon to solve both power and speed creep in one fell swoop?
Stat calculation is done in-engine, so transferring pokemon to the new games would make them automatically rebalanced.

Not to mention, if you brought "top" and "bottom" values for each stat closer together you might actually get EV spreads that are more creative than "EVERYTHING IN ATTACK AND SPEED"
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Is this a good set?
Pheromosa @ Choice Scarf | Beast Boost
Naughty Nature
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
• High Jump Kick
• U-turn
• Ice Beam
• Poison Jab
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>>30825460
I recommend Naive over Naughty, most priority attacks are based on atk and prio is going to be the only thing that outspeeds you.
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>>30827125
But, muh naughty bug lady
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>>30827125
Naive is the one that boosts speed. Naughty is fine and gives you pseudo Moxie
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>>30817242
You get that just by running Naughty with full investement. Guess you could remove some speed evs and putting them into special attack but that sounds suboptimal.
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>>30829488
You get four Pheromosa in-game, first two should definitely be Naughty and Naive, but what about the other two? Rash and...?
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>>30825460
>High Jump Kick

i want to believe in High Jump Kick,but it's betrayed me so many times...
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Enjoying this waifu meta desu
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>>30817229
Stops all priority and shits out damage.
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>>30829637
I went for Naive, Timid, Naughty and Adamant.

Timid z focus blast is my favorite, hasty would be ideal as Pheromosa can actually survive a vacuum wave from some users, yet timid u turn is still good for me due to some match ups vs scarf imposter Ditto. Naughty is a close second for pseudo moxie.
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>>30824488
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>>30814907
>scarf Pheromosa

lol
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>>30829793
Timid and Naughty sound like a fucking waste as you're not really tanking anything with those defenses anyway.
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>>30829810
do you even
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>>30829831
Meant to write "Timid and Adamant" obviously.
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>>30822852
Make it so pokemon get a super secret multiplier to attack and defense stats until they act in the turn. Now everybody will want to be slow.
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>>30829798
What do people run on Porygon Z that makes it so popular now?
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>>30822852
Pokemon is just like Yugioh: it will always be broken and it's impossible to stop power creep because there is nowhere else to go but up. At least Yugioh is kind of honest about it's brokenness judging from how hateful of Konami the fanbase is. Pokemon players overall just continue to suck Game Freak's cock.
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>>30830419
Porygon 2 I mean
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>>30830419
Knock Off barely even exists anymore so Porygon 2 got more popular as a result.
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>>30830419
"Now"
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>>30829798
Using pre bank results as an example for power creep is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen.
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>>30829831
Defensive Infernape vacuum wave.

But yes it is minimal, I just ran adamant on one set I didn't want to carry ice beam and instead carry Jab HJK lunge and u turn.

Jab helps a lot vs unaware Clefable that wants to stop your pseudo moxie.
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>tfw using Ash-Greninja
>tfw Water-Shuriken
your sash won't help you now, roach.
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Roach wife is cute
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>>30829742
Good. Priority is cancer.
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>>30833230
I want to FUCK Pheromosa and then CUM inside her ROACH PUSSY and having many HYBRID LARVAE with her!
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>mfw most pheromosas I've found online use Poison Jab on my Golisopod just to get rekt by Liquidation

do most people still believe that poison is SE against bugs?
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>>30835869
Forgetting Bug moves aren't half damage against other bug types maybe.
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>>30835869
It was probably the only neutral move they had.
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>>30835869
A lot of people seem to understimate how bulky Golisopod is and hope to get it below 50% with a single move.
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>>30824783
It'd be neat if Speed worked like it does in Dragon Quest, where being the fastest doesn't automatically mean you get to go first.
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>>30835869
kek it was only SE against bug in 1st gen too. shame bug got fucked by not getting SE against fairy though
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>>30814907
I WANT TO DIAPER BEAM BOTH OF THEM
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>>30836715
lol
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