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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the movie: I Choose You [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp

Next episode:
>SM7 - The Marketplace Wanderer, Nyabby! [Dec 15th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM8 - Who's in Charge of the Egg? [Dec 22nd]
>Pocket Monsters Sun & Moon Special [Dec 27th]
>SM9 - The Totem Pokémon is Dekagoos! [Jan 5th]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>30787301

SM5 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_005_Ashimari,_Do_Your_Balloonest![H264_720P][7759CAAF].mkv.torrent

SM6 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=878240

XY&Z34 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_034_Semifinal_Full_Battle!_Satoshi_VS_Shota!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][9F1EF522].mkv.torrent

XY&Z45 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_045_One_Last_Battle_with_Satoshi!_Serena's_Choice!![H264_720P][F01710A5].mkv.torrent

XY&Z46 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_046_Farewell,_Satoshi_Gekkouga!_Xerosicy_Strikes_Back!![H264_720P][1351ED22].mkv.torrent

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=867058

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085
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NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 7: THE MARKETPLACE WANDERER, NYABBY! (DECEMBER 15TH)
>Satoshi and the others have encountered a Nyabby, a distant Pokémon that doesn't take to people. At first, Satoshi is mad at it for taking his boxed lunch, but he then starts growing concerned for it...

>Summary:
>Satoshi's boxed lunch has been taken by a wild Nyabby, a Fire Cat Pokémon. An angry Satoshi starts searching for it, and he eventually finds the Nyabby covered in wounds from having been attacked by a Persian. Satoshi and Pikachu take the Nyabby home with them to treat its wounds, but it ends up escaping...

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Risa Shimizu: Joy
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Chinami Nishimura: Nyabby
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 63 (Dec 18th)

SM8 - Who's in Charge of the Egg? (Dec 22nd)
>Satoshi and the other students at the Pokémon School receive a homework assignment from Principal Okido. The assignment is to raise a Pokémon egg and observe it during the process. Satoshi's classmate Lilie is set to watch over the egg at her house at night, and Satoshi comes along to keep her company. Lilie's house is a huge mansion that also has a battlefield, which makes Satoshi really excited. This leads to him deciding to battle her butler.

Pocket Monsters Sun & Moon Special (Dec 27th)

SM9 - The Totem Pokémon is Dekagoos! (Jan 5th)
>Ratta and Koratta are laying waste to the island's fields. In response, Satoshi goes to meet with Island King Hala, an influential man on the island, as well as a key person in the "Island Pilgrimage" he is challenging. Satoshi immediately tells Hala he will be attempting the Island Pilgrimage, but Hala tells him he needs to be tested to make sure he is qualified for the pilgrimage first.

POKEMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/buzdoe.zip

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!ABsWQTbY!d1ILUTYt2IyO6hW97_Jk8YY9BVuvEdrHAu8J2uMwYR0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws
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I hope the movie looks this beautiful and it's just not the teaser
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I remember reading that the movies would not be using the same art style as the anime for the movie. Glad to see that was true.
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Misty wins.
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>>30789492
Dawn wins, she is the best girl after all.
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"Serena is dead" confirmed?
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Those figures are related with the new movie?
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>>30789531
They were released months ago.
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So, how likely is Serena going to be featured in the movie as the childhood summer campmate? Or will she be retconned entirely?
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>movie starts with something related to Ho-Oh, which will later lead to the movie's actual plot
>back to Pallet, we see Ash before his journey started
>we see him interacting with Gary, his mom, Oak, etc
>Ash gets Pikachu and we see events of the first episode
>Ash meets Brock, Misty and we get an Origins-style summary of the events of the first season
>Ho-Oh continues to appear here and there
>iconic battles and moments get more focus, including the league
>then after the league the plot regarding Ho-Oh is expanded and animated as if it were a "never-seen before episode" that happened between the Indigo League and Orange Islands
>movie ends, and in the credits we see short scenes of Ash going through all regions, with cameos of all companions, from Brock/Misty/Tracey up to the SM crew

This is best case scenario while also being realistic
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>>30789531
No, they're part of a series of figures featuring major Pokemon anime characters. There's also a Brock and Joy figures, and May and Gary have been announced.
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>>30789372
I RECOGNIZE THOSE FLOWERS!
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>>30789568
>implying the movie won't be just a remake of the first episode
>realistic
Definitely not.
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>>30789567
Pretty sure they'll add in some stuff from future generations post Kanto. What are the chances of seeing Johto and other regions in movies?
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>>30789521
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Are they going to retcon Ash?
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[Type: Wild starts playing]
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>>30789567
None of the companions will show up. It'll be just Ash and Pikachu.
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>>30789643
Mayumi Iizuka heavily hinted Misty will appear
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How are they going to do a Movie this gen?

You can't do Ultra beasts because they are part of the main story, can't do Tapus since they are also a main story element which we have already seen, AND you cant do Nebby since they are also part of the ultra beast story.

So this leaves only Necrozoma and Marshadow.
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Is the original VA coming back to voice Misty?
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>>30789568
>>30789625
post yfw Kissu with movie quality and animation.
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>>30789652
Source?
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>>30789567
>Serena
>getting reconnected
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>>30789520
>>30789478
From a quick look at the archives, it looks like we added YouTube links to new movie trailers to the OP for the Volcanion movie, but not for the Hoopa movie.

We can always add this trailer's YouTube link to the next thread's OP if people want.
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>>30789662
Real Satoshi is back
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>>30789659
Good luck with the movie extending beyond Ash seeing Ho-oh for the first time.
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Remember when that 10th anniversary movie becoming a flop.
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Do you think they will get Ash's original VA for the part?

The new English Ash is dub completely unbearable
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>>30789684
Nice meme
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>>30789685
which one was that again?
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>>30789662
Wonder why the hat change?
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>>30789667
Iizuka on Twitter in July >>30784652
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>>30789698
I don't think Veronica Taylor has been doing much lately but there's probably contract shit to deal with as well as trying to keep in consistent for the kids who watch and weren't there for the old VA.
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>>30789701
Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon
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>>30789702
It resembles the current generations hat obviously
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>>30789699
Because thinking this will highlight important events of OS isn't a meme.
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>>30789643
Source? You have none other than promo art and a teaser. The promo art isn't even the same artstyle as the movie, and the teaser doesn't show anything important other than a new hat and the flowers from XYZ.
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>>30789727
That was a 4Kids-sponsored and American-written special. Hardly the same.
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>>30789662

>>30789698
No. As much as we hate her Sarah has been voicing Ash longer then Veronica did.

There's no reason for TPCi to bring her back when they have their Ash.
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>>30789659
Shoko would go nuts.
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>>30789727
oh right!
I forgot that movie existed.
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>>30789662
N-NANI?! They are making a special or a movie with gen 1 Ash?
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>>30789510
I'm sorry, 77, but my favorite pokegirl is Serena >>30789530
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>>30789745
It's just a guess. Not sure if the flowers of XY&Z are supposed to mean anything(after all people are still debating what it was).
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>>30789726
She's in the new Sailor Moon dub. Pluto and various bit characters.
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>>30789771
Yajima literally confirmed they were a hidden message.
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>>30789756
Shoko liked kissu?

>yfw Shoko voices adult Serena in the movie
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>>30789654
They don't have to show ALL the UBs in the anime, really, the only one they're kind of forced to is Nilhilego

I'm expecting Movie 21 to be a rehash of the Hoopa movie with the other UBs and 22 to be the standard "oh no, 3rd legend is fucking up shit and there's a cute tiny mythical hanging out with us."
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>>30789778
Well that means I have to watch Sailor Moon again I guess. Also explains why I didn't think she was in anything given I've avoided Crystal.
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>>30789740
You must be really delusional to think they'd make the entire movie an extended version of a single episode.

What's the problem? Are you really that afraid of seeing Misty again? Is it about seeing Ash lose the Indigo League again? Or is it the possibility of Serena appearing that triggers you?
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>>30789790
Yeah, she was crying on twitter because she wasn't able to watch it live
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>>30789785
Yes, but people are debating what the message was and now it might be a thing that was always there but we were shown for the first time in the last episode of XY&Z.
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>mfw the movies does pretty good and they make a Pokemon Tri
>and the anime get a new main character
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>>30789766
That is acceptable taste if you like long hair Serena.
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>>30789801
>Are you really that afraid of seeing Misty again?
Huh, Misty appeared in the first episode so if it was an extended remake of the first episode she'd appear.
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Scrolling by, saw OP's webm. Is that pallet town?

Someone spoonfeed me pls I don't speak nip.
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>>30789823
>pokemon tri even though the anime is still going
>new main character for zero reason other than irrational manbaby hateboner for ash
sounds like someone doesn't actually watch the show
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>>30789843
>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the movie: I Choose You [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp

Just go there
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Handy-dandy recap of today's events, since a fair amount of shit went down...

Official upload of the first teaser trailer for Movie 20 can be seen at this URL or by clicking the movie website link in the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-zA7-lr_k

The translation of the dialogue, via Adamant:
>A world you've yet to see.
>Friends you've yet to see.
>A new journey...
>Begins.

>ARE YOU READY...
>FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL...
>ADVENTURE?

If you want a 720p .webm of the teaser trailer without sound, see the OP image. For the .webm with sound, go here:
>>>/wsg/1445905

For the SM07 Oha Suta preview in various file formats, go here:
>>30787437

For the Oha Suta Pokemon Club segment from today with "IKU-Z!", go here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ah7j0v6xwhjqonj/
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>>30789843
Next movie. Apparently Ash begins his journey with Pikachu and sees Ho-oh, that's all for now.
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Can we all agree that Mega evolution ruined Pokemon?

Now we have to deal with all of this alternate timeline bullshit because of it
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>>30789843
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>>30789853
I can't read the site, but from Ho-Oh, I can guess this is some kind of recap movie for the 20th anniversary.

That seems pretty neat desu, I was expecting more of the same "Legendaries clash" sort of deal.
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>>30789843
more genwunner pandering
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>>30789771
I guess the flowers imply that the XY staff is involved with the movies instead of the tv anime from now on. Notice how Ash has spikey hair. If you look closely, the marks on his cheeks look like thunderbolts instead of the squiggly lines as seen in SM. Even my assumptions are a bit of a stretch, but I feel like this movie will be more than just a simple retelling.

If M20 is the first part of a movie series, then Mew will probably be involved since they'll have to do a distribution of its Z-Move at some point. Can't picture Mew in the SM anime either. Just an assumption though.
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>>30789875
The idea that there's an alternate timeline solely because of mega evolution is bullshit.
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>>30789752
>>30789662
OUR BOY ASH IS BACK
WEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>30789899
>the XY staff is involved with the movies instead of the tv anime from now on
The writers for SM so far are the same people, genius.
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>>30789905
Its not an idea anon, it has already been confirmed in ORAS and S/M
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>>30789899
Supposedly the flowers are about "everlasting love" though.
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>>30789899
I think the fact that this Ash looks more like XY than SM is simply because this is a movie, they have more time and budget to animate so they can afford to work with a more detailed model, while in the anime they're better with a more "fluid" Ash.
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>>30789922
That's not his point. Alternate universes have existence since Red and Green. And even if you ignore that, BW made it pretty clear that Black and White took place in different universes.

Gen 6-7 with Mega Evolution only expanded that concept.
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>>30789922
Not in the anime there isn't.

>>30789934
Yajima didn't say which people, though. Since said the message was directed towards his staff and the viewers, many interpreted what he said as a message of eternal gratitude/appreciation for them.
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>>30789875
Z moves are the same shit. I rather had megas as normal evolutions instead having this temporarily stuff.
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>>30789943
SM ash isn't fluid, just one battle was
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So Misty and Brock and dare I say Garyare coming back for M20?
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https://twitter.com/TheVeronicaT
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>>30789849
Or that the show we have now is shit
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>>30789961
Thats your own opinion

I prefer Pokemon without having to form change them into some ugly abomination that is Mega evolution
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>>30789968
Well it's been six years
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>>30789961
Fuck off, Nymphia.
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>>30789833
Too bad.

>>30789956
Yajima sure loved XY then.
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>>30789969
>posts BW image
Into the trash she goes.
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>>30789833
I like both styles
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>>30789698
No, they're too up their own asses for that. TPCi's dub is shit anyway, watch the film in Japanese.

>>30789752
No one cares, Veronica was the better Ash over Sarah and 4Kids dub was better than TPCi's, fuck TPCi, watching the 20th Movie in Japanese.
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>even the movie staff knows that SM animation is a mistake

MATSUI OUT
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>>30789991
Then don't evolve them if you don't like the evolved form. But of course you wont do that because you only get validation from battling when using whatever gimmicks and optimization is required to play in OU right?
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>>30789740
The trailer mentions "Friends you've yet to see", so at the very least we're going to see red meeting some of his pokémon and/or human friends.

The only friend he met in the first episode was Pikachu, because Caterpie only appeared in episode 3 and Misty was just some random angry slut until then.
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>>30790095
What if Matsui wrote the movie?
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>>30790051
The trashy VAs are ones like Sarah Natochenny, Bill Rogers, Michele Knotz, and James Carter Cathcart, if anything.

Shame the 20th Movie dub has the potential to be the worst one ever since TPCi love their crappy dub cast and crew so much.
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>Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon is scheduled to be the shortest-lived season yet at a total of 36 episodes through July 2017, however part of a much bigger overarching story spanning multiple series
>M20, I Chose You!, is the first of a three-part series of 72 minute films, which in total will retell the story of the first 80 episodes of the anime
>M21 will be titled Pocket Monsters the Movie: Showdown! and will be released in October 21st
>M22 will be titled Pocket Monsters the Movie: Final Battle! and will be released December 30th
>M22 will also serve as an announcement for the next game: Pokémon Indigo
>Indigo will be the first solo re imagining of a previous Gen, taking inspiration from Gen 1 (mostly Yellow). The differentiation between remake and re imagining should be noted here.
>Indigo will act as a re imagining for the Gen 1 games as M20/21/22 will for the Gen 1 anime
>In Indigo, you play as Ash and start with Pikachu, much like Yellow
>Misty, Brock, and Gary accompany you along your adventure ala Hau, Lillie in SM
>Lillie will appear in Indigo
>Indigo will be a 3DS title
>Ash's Pikachu is your starter Pokemon
>An expanded Alola combined with the original Orange Islands serves as post-game
>Satoshi Tajiri will return for the first time since Gen 2 to co-direct Indigo with Masuda
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>>30790095
Or, in actuality, it means that movie was planned months before SM even started airing.
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>>30790109
>we're going to see red
>red
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>>30789747
A pity 4Kids didn't dub the Mastermind Special instead seeing as TPCi got to dub it and butchered it to hell & back.

If 4Kids had dubbed it, perhaps the dub would've been tolerable.
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>>30790153
What the fuck, I have no idea what happened there.

I obviously meant Ash.
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>>30790095
Firing squad for Matsui and the one responsible for Serena's change when?
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>>30790130
>he took time to write this
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>>30790130
But that would never happen anon.
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>>30790130
Nice joke post.

Either way, if I have to watch OS again, I'd rather watch OS than a shitty 20th Movie relying on nostalgia faggotry like this may.
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>>30790130
/fanfiction
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>>30790130
I don't believe you, but apart of me wishes.
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>>30790095
>>30790113
The executives/writers start working on the movies a year before they come out. This has nothing to do with SM sucking or anything like that.

>>30790095
Dumb frogposter.
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>>30790109
>Friends you've yet to see
Maybe it means looking towards the future as their journey continues not strictly within the movie.
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>>30789968
We literally don't know anything abut the movie except:
>it will feature Ash, Pikachu and Ho-Oh
>it will feature at least the first episode of OS
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>>30790153
M20 confirmed for making the anime canon to the games and revealing Ash is Red's son
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>>30790166

Problem was 4Kids was going down hill, they probably would have went bust sooner than later
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>>30790130
>>>Indigo will be a 3DS title

This almost makes it believable. Like in a "ONLY GAME FREAK™" kind of way.
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>>30790130
Nice fanfiction, where do I upboat you?
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>>30790247
>>it will feature at least the first episode of OS
We don't even know that for absolute certain.
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>>30790248
Bullshit. M20 confirmed to have retards making up nonsense.

>>30790247
This, and frankly, M20 is nostalgia pandering at its finest. Not helping is that effect will be lost entirely in the shitty-ness of the TPCi dubs for the rest of the world since practically every nation has had their dub crew changed by now except for Japan now.
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>>30790248
And who's the mother?
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>>30790130
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>>30789481
The movies will eventually change but not until they've completely got the new style down. Think of how late BW was like a prelude to XY's style.
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>>30790273
Pokemon Indigo and Crimson
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>>30790279
Well Ash met Ho-oh in the first episode and the movie is called like it, so I guess we can be certain about that.
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>>30790259
4Kids wasn't going downhill until after they lost Pokemon: TPCi is the reason they went bankrupt because they practically stole the license from them to cut costs.

And if anything, TPCi's the one going downhill, the XY-XYZ dub is literally unwatchably bad.
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>>30790279
I think the first trailer, the Ho-Oh reference, and the title point out that, at the very least, we're going to see an extended version of the first episode and how Ash and Pikachu became friends.
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>>30790289
>Bullshit.
No shit. Learn to detect jokes/sarcasm, autismo.
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>>30790248

Either that or Ash is the 4th trainer from Pallet town like in episode 1. This would probably destroy the anime story line where 2 of the 4 failed to become trainers. But I guess we will find out
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>>30790130
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>>30790338
The autistic one would be you for making retarded jokes in the first place.
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>>30790130
>Lillie will appear in Indigo
you ruined it
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>>30790342
They didn't fail to become trainers, they failed to make it to the league.
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X - Y - Z
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>>30790320
>not Pokémon Indigo and Orange
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>>30790326

TCPi was supposed to be shit enough to make money but good enough to keep around. It was all about the money, poor voice actors get the heat.
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>>30790342
Fucking hell, I forgot Cathcart will voice Gary again in the M20 dub if the character's in it with his nasally voice.
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>>30790396
I'm glad they voted them into the club. Would've been so dumb not to vote them in.
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>>30790377
>no u
Great comeback senpai
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>>30790396
>that lazy Z
I'm dying
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>>30790413
TPCi was certainly shit enough to butcher the Pokemon dub, and still is, that's all I'll say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS-u1rVFoYU

Yes, and they've gotten so cheap, TPCi can't even keep the OST in the Anime & Movies now.
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Who do you like less Matsui or Catchcart?
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Would be neat if this movie was Ash returning from Alola having graduated to challenge the league/elite 4. He beats the 4 but turns out someone beat him to the punch - Paul. Climax is Ash fighting Paul for the title.
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>>30790396
Remove fatties
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>>30790494
Even a good dub, if it existed, would still be inherently ruined by Matsui.
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>>30790326
4Kids death started when they lost Pokemon, and then losing TMNT pretty much was the final bullet to the head. Made worse by the fact that their series was essentially glossed over by marketing in favor of the 80s Turtles.
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>>30790503
It's probably a retelling of the time Ash and Pikachu met and started their journey. Makes sense, why make kids watch an episode that aired 20 years ago when you can make an anniversary movie that shows just that?
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>tfw May doesn't appear, not even in the credits
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>>30790481

Low energy, the Japanese version is having you rock out to an intense battle and the English version is putting you to sleep.
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>>30789752
Should be noted here that this is Ash probably at his house ALREADY with a pokeball and putting on a new hat. I feel like this could be his return to Kanto.
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>>30790540
Yes, if 4Kids hadn't lost Pokemon, I have a feeling that:

1. The dub would be better acted & scripted than it is now.

2. The intros would be longer than now.

3. The Movies would still keep the OST.

Sucks, TPCi had to more or less steal it and make the Pokemon dub even worse. Anything's better than knowing chain-smoker Ash will be the voice of him in the 20th Movie's dub and we'll probably get elevator dub music on top of dumb rewrites, too.
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>>30790396
No promises just yet, but I may try to grab this segment again in better quality tomorrow, which would enable you to create a better quality .webm
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Anabel when?
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>>30790504
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>>30790584
Noted, and thanks.
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The problem was due to greedy TPCi financial aids,
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>>30790578
Remember that in the first episode, he didn't pack his stuff before getting Pikachu, maybe he returns home and grabs his stuff.
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>>30790569
nigga the only girl that will show up is misty and just to get her bike stolen.
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>>30790652
If she even shows up.
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>>30790577
And fuck, that's not even the worst of what TPCi's done to the Pokemon dub since they took over, they do bullshit like this as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVrZZPghgw

They also called Greninja "Greninjo," said "You'll catch cold," called a Houndour a Houndoom, etc.

>>30790494
Cathcart, considering Matsui only gets to ruin a few seasons while he has ruined everything dubbed since Battle Frontier began a decade ago.
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>>30790602

What do we say here?
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>>30790578
>>30790615
>this much of newfags
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>>30790615
Delia brings him his belongings outside of Oaks after getting Pikachu.
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What is the reaction going to be when the movie ends with Misty kissing Ash?
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So the site is up now. When should we be getting more information? January?
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Ok, let's play a game.

Let's imagine, for the sake of the game, that this movie is actually the story of Ash's first league victory, in Kanto, and that is for all intents and purposes the canon ending to the anime (even if there are another 40 or 60 years of Ash adventures after it, the movie canonically takes place after all of those future series).

What would you like to see in this "finale" movie?
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>>30789662
>Couldn't even get Ash's """favorite""" hat right
This better be an origin story taking place before he gets his first pokémon and feature how he actually got his OG hat.
>Inb4 B-BUT HE PICKS UP A POKÉBALL!
Could easily be his alarm clock.
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>>30790578
Could this episode start with a retelling of the first episode, then have a quick montage of Ash's adventures though Kanto-Kalos and then feature an adventure happening after XY, where he meets Ho-Oh again?
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>>30790689
Exactly, which might hint that they changed that part as seen in the teaser.
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>>30790702
Now that I see it better, they look bruised. As if they had, I dunno, been fighting a flock of Spearows beforehand.
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There's a better version hidden in the website's source code, anon.
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>>30790095
Movies have their own artstyle
XY movies didn't use the XY artstyle
BW movies didn't use the BW artstyle
DP movies didn't use the DP artstyle
and so on
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>>30790702
My god, the fact Ash looks even fucking younger highlights how terrible Natochenny's going to be in the dub version.

Fuck the dub so much, Matsumoto is the only way I'm sitting through this.
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>>30790696

Ash win a league
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>>30790696
Ash's dad
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>>30790702
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>>30790718
But we know how he got his hat, he sent in a bunch of letters to win it in a mail in contest.

Also the clock was a voltorb I think not a pokeball. Not that the animators/writers remember that kind of shit often.
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>>30790748
do you have tourettes
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>>30790666
Catch cold is a genuine phrase.
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>>30790783
Just ignore him. My filters auto-hide most of his posts. He's been regurgitating this stuff like a robot for years even though pretty much everyone here already agrees the dub sucks balls.
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>>30790741
Look at all that orange
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>>30790783
No, I just don't TPCi's chain-smoking female Ash, is all.
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>>30790719
I doubt it. There's no real nostalgia pandering making it about the other series.

>>30790741
I wonder if the feather will have some significance.
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>>30790782
They remember Ash's pajamas and minor details of this room in the last episode of BW. I don't see why they wouldn't remember the same details for this notalgiafest.
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>>30790798
It's a common grammatical error: it should be "You'll catch a cold," instead.

Not to mention TPCi's Electrode the Voltorb, Alle-Hoopa-Ring, the list is endless.
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>>30790702
does anyone have that picture of Gold with Typhlosion that looks a lot like this?
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>>30790776
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>>30790782
That's what I'm saying. I hope the reason the hat design is wrong is because it's before he won his official league hat through the mail-in contest, it's just a random hat his mom bought him, and the whole movie's a prequel that ends where the anime begins.
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Poster.
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>>30789860
BRING BACK FAT PIKACHU
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I'm actually sick of nostalgia cashgrabs. It's basically easy mode for long running franchises and people still eat it up.
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>>30790846
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Reminder that the footage of first teaser/trailer will not appear in the final release.
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>>30790862
You're telling us that you want another legendary fuckfest with a few OC's and the same rehashed plot?
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>>30790741
It was all gold in its first appearance.
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>>30790862
I bet they regret SM now, they could cash in on the Pokemon Go nostalgia normies who still linger around.
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>>30790831
You can't catch "a" cold. The common cold isn't a thing, you do not physically hold a cold in your hands.

You don't say you catch "a" chickenpox, or you catch "a" mumps, do you? No you faggot you caught chickenpox ie: you caught cold.
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>RBG/FRLG and the adventures manga takes place in the original universe
>Yellow and the entirety of the anime takes place in the mega universe
>Red and Blue (female protagonist) are canon in the anime, even though they are only mentioned subtlety by Professor Oak in the first few episodes and are the trainers who have selected Bulbasaur and Charmander.
>The next Kanto games has you playing as Ash instead of Red since it's in the megaverse
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>>30790862
Better concept than the formula than that of some of the movies we've had recently, Diancie and the BW movies in particular. Even the Hoopa movie had its problems despite being watchable otherwise.
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>>30790871
Sorry anon. 4chan crapped out on me there.

Here's the poster.
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>>30790917
>implying SM isn't still a huge commercial success
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I wish we had Goku's english voice actor again, that guy always seemed to voice a Typhosion pokemon trainer

>>30790666

>Satan get
It reminds me of the old days when they would say weird mistakes
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>>30790956
Are Pikachu shorts really kill?

RIP
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Have none of you faggots seen Eva 1.0?

It's gonna be just that
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>>30790741
looking at the poster and stuff makes me think that the movie will bee about episode 1. with Ash and Pikachu becoming best buds. It makes perfect sense after all they are the icons of the anime and everyone else is disposable. also a neat new wallpaper.
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>>30790761

Yes, please put this mystery to rest. We need to know the man and where he is
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>>30790999
Trips confirm Pikachu shorts are dead.

But yeah we didn't get one this year either.
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7 more hours until lillie-sama's episode preview!
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>>30791008
So M21 is the one where it fools you into thinking they adapt AG or something but then it derails by the end and M22 is something completely fucking different (and shit) and M23 never releases?
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>>30791012
It's a new universe.
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>>30790999
we were beaned into thinking we would get one this year but it was a ruse
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>>30790693
You could use a better-quality version of this image, my dear Serenafag.

She's too fucking cute.
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>>30791012
Well, it is in the name of the movie.
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>>30791052
>is something completely fucking different
don't remind me,anon
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>>30791047
>she appears to be rather uneasy about this. And when Satoshi looks at her, he...?!

what did they mean by this?
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>>30791052
Except this movie isn't getting a fucking sequel or trilogy. It's just a retelling of season one with random modern shit thrown in to spice it up like the eternal flower.

I expect this movie to be a mix of season 1 and yellow version. No Brock and Misty companions. Team rocket only showing up occasionally. Etc.
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>>30791061
It smells like retelling to me.

>>30791070
Okay.

Thanks, I would've made a better screencap myself but I didn't remember from which episode it was.
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>>30791008

So we are going to get 3 movies where the first is a retelling with shiny new paint job, the second is half old half new, and the 3rd is a complete course change, and the 4th movie is a mystery?
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>>30790994
>I wish we had Goku's english voice actor again
hate to be that guy but we nearly got him again for M19 as Jarvis but he was replaced by - and this is off the process of elimination off the credits so I could be wrong - Greninja/Squishy's VA
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>>30791047
>SM
meh
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>>30790926
Yes, you can, normal people tend to speak that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYbMrwtupgU

Those are different cases, and regardless, TPCi has made several errors.
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>>30791108
Nah. Retellings are market as retellings.


This a movie directly not using the movies canon.
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>>30791108
XY&Z31, the episode where Citron goes full sperg because "m-muh ingenuities are playful"
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>>30791123
Too bad it doesn't remind me of the old days where the voice cast was actually good in the dub and the script writing wasn't retarded...or when the intros weren't garbage and when a lot of the OST was kept in the dub.
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>>30791112
*the 4th will never be released
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>>30791162
Sorry, meant to quote >>30790994
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>>30791133
>THIS is the dubsperg

JUST.
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>>30791153
I should've guessed.

>>30791144
Excuse me, but isn't that more or less the same said differently?
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>>30791188
Fuck off, dubfag, I'm just linking some video I found of some guy on the internet.

Regardless, the dub is total shit and you have an IQ of 20 if you think otherwise by now. No amount of le ebin dubsperg meme is gonna change that fact.
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>>30791173

Maybe it is a good thing
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>>30791188
Why can't you idiots just put him into your filters already instead of constantly replying to him. It's not that fucking hard.
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>>30791222
Nope. A reboot.
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>>30791273
temper temper, anon
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How do you guys deal with him?
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>>30791297
The reason you choose to avoid the discussion is because, deep down, you know the dub has gone to hell at this point. I wouldn't even bring it up if it weren't relevant here.
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>>30791306
How do you deal with the TPCi dub being shit for a decade now? How do you not only let this happen, but not care how badly they fuck it up? That, my friend, is the question, and this man started it all.
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>>30791306
By ignoring him and filtering him, just as you all should. If he starts whining at me in response to this post, I simply won't reply, and you shouldn't reply to his reply to you post just now either.
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>>30791162

I preferred the English intros to the Japanese ones back in the day.
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>>30791371
There's a difference between whining and pointing out the obvious here, and it's painfully clear the Pokemon dub is one of the worst ever made at this point. It's not worth anyone's time.

That's all I have to say, really.
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Wait, do we hate the TCPi dub or not? I thought we didn't like it. Why are we defending it now?
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>>30791385
Yes, but that was when the dub was actually listenable and had some modicum of production values in it, which isn't the case now.

Fuck the dub, seriously, I've brought it up enough already. It sucks ass, that's all there is to it.
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>>30791390
Is the sm dub ok?
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>>30791392
We hate it, but this guy's been here whining about it for years cluttering up thread after thread and calling people who tell him to shut up already "dubfags" and "Cathcart," even though everyone already agrees that the dub sucks. Again, fucking filter him and ignore him and just let him talk to himself.
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>>30791392
we're not but he thinks we are
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>>30791392
No one's defending it but retarded dubfags: most of us hate the TPCi dub and would rather not discuss it but dubsperg insists on bringing it up anyway.
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>>30791408
No, the SM dub terribly acted, kanji was erased in both episodes, Togedemaru's voice was changed, puns were added and removed, etc.

The dub is trash and is not worth it.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfBEsPXO6es&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfBEsPXO6es&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfBEsPXO6es&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfBEsPXO6es&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfBEsPXO6es&t
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>>30791408
It's still the same thing.
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>they haven't filtered 'dub' or 'tcpi'
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>>30791483
>have to filter /padt/ at all just to make it acceptable to post in

An astounding new low.
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Will there be more info about the movie tomorrow or as soon as the new episode airs?
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>>30791467

Serena is so cute...
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>>30791483
This. It took me like 5 minutes to set up. You all should do it too. Add words like DuArt, 4kids, Cathcart, Wayland, Natochenny, Natoshitty, Lisa Ortiz, Michele Knotz, Goldfarb, Bill Rogers, "localization" and its variants, Cartoon Network, and Disney XD, and you'll easily filter 90% of his posts.

Also it's TPCi, not TCPi.

>>30791522
More like the way it's been since 2014. Stop being so new.
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>>30791543
I doubt we'll get more information before next year, but I don't remember how these usually go.
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>>30791543
Next month, possibly.
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>>30790994
why does a ghost need to eat?
>>
they'll still have to fit a Shoko cameo in there tho
>>
Is SM bad?
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>>30791603
Some of the early episodes are dull but it's too early to say the whole series is "bad"
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>>30791588
He's going to voice one of the trainers who picked a stater before Ash
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>>30791603
I prefer the pacing so far and it's a few dozen episodes too early to tell.
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>>30791545
Yes.

>>30791588
Maybe she'll voice the Spearow. Heh.
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>>30791522
I've been filtering a lot of stupid shit here for a very long time. like image or long hair. /padt/ has always been a magnet of autism nothing new.
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>>30790999
The movie 15 and movie 18 shorts weren't announced until February.
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>30791405
>dub
>actually listenable

It was never good
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>>30791671
Fuck off, don't invite him back.
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what happened to SM6 subs? SM7 in mere hours and it is not out yet.
>>
WATASHI
MAKENAI
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Just give the dub over to Fubimation,Sentai Filmworks,or whoever is available.
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>>30791696
They'll come out when they're ready, there's also the two XY&Z specials to sub.
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>>30791696
Today's movie news and such probably delayed them a bit. Not that most of us really care that much about Sophocles.
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>"4Kids would do a much better job than TPCi!"
>meanwhile current Yu-Gi-Oh dubs are still horribly censored poorly-acted hackjobs
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>>30791723
Pretty much- TPCi dub is shit, we all know it by now.

>>30791671
It was good a long, long time ago, but who cares, it's been shit longer by now.
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>>30791723
Probably would cost too much, and we all know how cheap TCPi is.
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>>30791772
Fuck off, Mimi.
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>>30791696
Sorry, anon. Some unforeseen complications came up.

Should hopefully be out tomorrow.
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>>30791765
Yu-Gi-Oh dubs aren't done by 4Kids anymore, they went bankrupt, blame 4KMedia/Konami for the failure of them. And TPCi's dubs of Pokemon are also horribly censored poorly-acted hackjobs that use the same exact people as those Yu-Gi-Oh dubs, so yeah.
>>
Maybe I do need to add "TCPi" to my filter anyways, even though it's a misspelling.
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>>30791835
Filter whatever you want, just don't bring up the shitty dub or its cast in any capacity, because no one wants to discuss it.
>>
What happened?
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>>30791864
What happened to what?
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>>30791864
Dubfags and dubspergs arguing in the thread, what else?
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>>30791808
4KMedia is what 4Kids is nowadays. If 4kids still ran the dub, then it's very likely that, say, costs would still be cut and Veronica Taylor's own performance would go downhill, and 4K would only be kept afloat by Pokémon and YGO.

Not that I care because I find the Indigo League dub unwatchable in the first place.
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>>30791835
Maybe the anon wants to talk about TCP/IP?

>>30791864
We were having fun talking about the upcoming movie and shit ensued.
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>>30791772
What a bunch of intolerable pricks!
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>>30791898
The production studio, sure, but 4Kids has no involvement in the Yu-Gi-Oh dubs anymore: Konami had the change to change 4KMedia into producing better dubs, but failed, and it's likely the 4Kids dub would've still been better than the TPCi dub by now. I'd take Veronica Taylor's worst over Sarah Natochenny's best at any rate by this point.

I find the DP and XY dubs unwatchable, so yeah, whatever you say.
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>>30791898
>Had the change

Sorry, but the point still stands.
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>>30791930
Not to mini-mod, anon, but you should stop attaching Serena pics to all your posts. It's avatarfagging.
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>>30791964
Ugh, meant chance, fuck it all, you get it. Fuck the dub, is the point.
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>>30791974
It's a matter of context.
>>
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2DrLREb_deQ

I can't understand what she's saying.
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>>30791937
I find any part of the Pokémon dub unwatchable, actually.
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>>30792014
Rosenfeld's Bonnie is pretty much earrape whenever she sings and it's incredibly nasally, too.

The irony is that this is the only time in the XY dub there's any silence and TPCi still ruin it with crap acting.
>>
Who is Giselle?
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>>30792015
That's fair enough, I can get that. Again, fuck the dub.
>>
>>30792054
One-off COTD who appeared like 6 episodes into OS.
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So will the movie be just a retelling or a darker retelling?
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>>30792066
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>>30792040
She sounds too high pitch
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>みんなでポケモンのタマゴを育てよう!夜はリーリエの家で預かることになったけどポケモンに触ることができないリーリエは不安そう。そんなリーリエを見てサトシは…!?

>サトシ:松本梨香、ピカチュウ:大谷育江、ロトム図鑑:浪川大輔、リーリエ:真堂圭、カキ:石川界人、マオ:上田麗奈、スイレン:菊地瞳、マーマネ:武隈史子、ククイ博士:中川慶一、オーキド校長:石塚運昇、ジェイムズ:ふくまつ進紗

Lillie's butler is called James. No Team Rocket in Lillie's episode.
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>>30792094
Lillie's butler is named James? Is this a dub reference?
>>
When was the last time a character sang other than Bonnie?
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>>30792082
And like she's got her nose plugged up, kinda like TPCi! James, agreed.
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>>30792111
In the actual episodes? Not in the same manner as Bonnie

But Serena and Dawn's VA's sang their ending themes.
>>
>>30792111
Brock in that Igglybuff episode?
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>>30792066
Reboot.
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>>30792107
Should've been called Catchart if it were a true dub reference.
>>
let me show you true cancer

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1325189
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>>30792094
So it's a COTD.
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>>30792094
Lillie a cute!
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>>30792138
But his was for comedic purposes. There was that Jirachi lullaby and Meowth's song. Also that's Japan only.
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>>30792094
Thank you, Slowking.
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>>30792176
>neogaf
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Less than 5 hours to eggs!
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>>30792176
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>30792174
Who's that grizzly bear?
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>>30792174
Fuck you for ruining the dub, you and the rest of your hacks.
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>>30792205
I know, just saying

I know Boss Doggie doesn't come here anymore but he still is fighting the good fight
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>>30792227
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>>30792226
Upon closer inspection, i now know.
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>>30792266
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Oh my god,what if they finally deal with the GS ball?
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What if he appears in the movie?
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>>30792292
That's what that other movie was for.
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>>30792255
>>30792288
Cathcart is so shit he's become a /vp/ meme now. Kek.
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>>30792060
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Is my girl coming back after all these years?
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>Bulbapedo still doesn't have articles for Kiawe, Mallow, Lana, and Sophocles' seiyuu
What a bunch of rascals.
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Movie website update:

>Announcing the Title and Premiere Date of the 2017 Pokémon Movie!


>The Title and premiere date of the 2017 Pokémon movie have been announced!
>The title is "Pocket Monsters the Movie: I Choose You!"

>It will premiere Saturday July 15th!
>The very first teaser has been released! Check it out right now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-zA7-lr_k
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>>30792337
No one cares about that. Euisine should have been the star. Also Raikou got shafted until the 13th movie.
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>>30792382
If you're lucky, only for the movie. She (and the other girls) will never come back for good.

>>30792399
Also: are they going to bring in the same VAs or will it be an entirely new cast much like Origins/Generations?
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>>30792399
And Adamant's comment:
>And the website has updated! With... nothing, really, just an article that repeats the exact same things the front page said. Yay.

>Honestly, probably just done for the sake of giving people that subscribe to their news page rss feed a heads up.
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>>30792421
Fuck off, Mimi.
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>>30792176
Some of the posts in that thread sound like people from here.
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>>30792399
M20 is more or less a nostalgia cash grab trying to ride off the success of the OS Anime, really.
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>>30792421
Wait for TPCi to throw a curveball and cast FUNimation soundalikes to the 4Kids voice actors.
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>>30792429
Yeah nothing else to see for now.

>>30792446
Except more Mistyfags and far more people who knows shit about the anime. One has to wonder if they aren't the ones that shitpost in here.
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Not to go too deep on the dub shit but I think a lot of the problem has to do with scripting and music choices, even then you still need to bring in the voice director since some of the VA have some talent its just a matter of them using first takes only.
Do prefer 4kids dub despite how shit they were with their NoA tier censorship.
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>>30792465
I was referring to the Japanese version by the way, not the dub.
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>>30792501
Go eat shit, you'd probably like that anyway.
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>>30792501
Fuck off, Meemee.
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>>30792501
fuck off mami and stop responsing to dub niggers absolute mongoloid
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>>30792501
Fuck off already.
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>>30792501
Kill yourself.
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>>30792421
More than this nostalgiafag ever expected so I'm happy.
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>>30792490
People are spamming that thread with Amourshipping pics and saying, "misty is trash" and one guy even said he is mad about Contestshipping.

Sounds like some people here.
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>>30792176
Is the japanese name for the flowers seen in the last XY episode (and also the new movie) really Kasumi?

How come I've never seen anyone mention that here?
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>>30792495
The NYC voice cast is talentless as far as TPCi goes, honestly, only when they farm out for LA talent are their dubs even remotely watchable.

However, yes, I prefer 4Kids dub over TPCi's as well, especially considering the latter has gotten just as bullshit about editing as 4Kids was lately.

>>30792465
Still better than Natochenny, Rogers, and those hacks, but still, 4Kids' cast was superior regardless. If they weren't so up their ass, maybe, just maybe, the dub wouldn't have gotten so awful.
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>>30792094
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I don't think telling Mami to fuck off is working. You know, if you guys really hate him you could just filter/ignore him; telling him to fuck off is just giving him more (You)s.
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>>30792592
I do both.
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>>30792574
I'd see it as more of a Sonic thing where once the new VA's where given a different voice director for Boom they actually started to fit into the roles more.
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>>30792571
Ever since the episode aired.
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>>30792574
Some care about money rather performance. See mexico.
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>>30792592
>he isn't filtering mami and telling him to fuck off and die
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BOKURA GOOD VIBRATION
ASU NI CONGRATULATION
ITSU DATTE REVOLUTION
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>>30792629
I've only ever seen people talking about the "wedding" and "eternal love" meaning it had.

I guess amourshippers were just more vocal than pokéshippers.
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>>30792620
Not really, the hacks at TPCi (TAJ for BF and DPS1, DuArt from DPS2 to present) have had 4 directors and a decade to get their shit together, and their voice acting has gotten worse and worse with each director, as has Cuntcart's writing and their editing is 4Kids-tier now anyway, so the TPCi dub is the worst of both worlds at this point.

The current Sonic cast haven't had nearly as long or as many directors, and for the most part, are actually very professional and well trained (Kirk Thornton is pretty shitty as Shadow, though).

>>30792631
Yeah, TPCi are similar, all they care about is money and not quality- as long as it sells, it works for them.
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>>30792668
Because the name of the flowers in japan is called Kasumisou, but Yajima says the message is hidden if the languague of the flowers, not in the name.
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>>30792668
Because it was about the meaning behind the flower not the flowers name itself.
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>>30792716
Honestly my only real complaint with Cart was that shit that he pulled during the VA switch that was unforgivable, At least Misty's va sounds decent to me.
Kirk Thornton has said they flat out told him to do Vegeta because Boom Shadow was rewritten to be Vegeta.
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Serena when?
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>>30792668
It's the language of flowers, not the flower's name, and the director is not going to insert a random reference to Misty of all people at the end of XY&Z just minutes after having Serena kiss Ash. The baby's breath flowers are the director's way of giving thanks to the viewers and the staff. He even said the message was directed "to the staff and viewers" or some such.

The stuff about weddings and such is POTENTIALLY true, I suppose, but I still don't buy it. If you truly believe that, why put something like that into a scene where Ash gets home instead of into Serena's farewell scene? It's in the very final scene for a reason, to offer finality to the series by thanking the viewers for watching it and the staff for working on it.
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>>30792668
This. The flowers were actually a hint about the movie and Misty coming back.
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>>30792775
Rogers pulled the same shit during the VA switch with him that was unforgivable IIRC (see NewBrock, him and Cart were tag teaming Maddie Blaustein 2 years before she passed away), and yeah, I recall that OGT shit very well (Cart then went on during DP to say his shitty writing is better than the Japanese Version, too) and Knotz has been a cunt to anyone who says her voice acting isn't as good as the original Misty/Jessie, so I don't like her, either.

Wow, what the fuck were they thinking? Vegeta isn't Shadow.
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>>30792791
>The stuff about weddings and such is POTENTIALLY true, I suppose, but I still don't buy it. If you truly believe that, why put something like that into a scene where Ash gets home instead of into Serena's farewell scene? It's in the very final scene for a reason, to offer finality to the series by thanking the viewers for watching it and the staff for working on it.
Maybe we'll find the answer in the movie.

However I believe it's to show that the flowers were always there and we just saw them for the first time on XY&Z47.
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>>30792592
It's basically a choice between filtering and ignoring him, posting Amour to trigger his autism, or telling him to fuck off and/or die.
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>>30792853
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>>30792862
That's so fucking shitty mocking Maddie, the only time I've really heard new Misty is in the mirage master and in one of the flash back scenes they have her yell Ash and it sounds off.

In Boom they rewrote Shadow so he's only wants to prove he's better than Sonic, mainline is still the original story but mainline has no good stories.
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New bred:
>>30792870
>>30792870
>>30792870
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>>30792094
>No Team Rocket
Yes.
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>>30792912
Tell me about it, this was LITERALLY two years before Maddie died, and Cathcart & Rogers were mercilessly trolling her- the two dickheads were also stroking each other's cocks in the "King and Queen for a Day!" episode thread on Serebii forums, check it out sometime. Good for a laugh (at them, because no one else liked their shitty performances).

That explains it, though Thornton could do better, but at least he's a nice guy unlike the idiots TPCi employs.
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If they can get Ash's old voice actress back I won't even touch the sub. I'm not even joking
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