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Hoopa screwed over the nonmega timeline.

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In ORAS you could encounter almost all of the legendary pokemon from gens 2-5 via hoopa's rings. It seems to be implied due to their music and prior info known about hoopa that these legendaries may have been removed from the games they first appeared in. If this is correct than the nonmega timeline would have been without both megas and most legendary pokemon when the Ultra wormholes appeared.
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Yup destroyed and timeline screwed.

You are trading in pokemon from destroyed universes. Gen 2 pokemon is really gen 4 hgss.

So far emerald hoeen is destroyed.
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>>30781318
>>30781024
When will retards stop parrotting this shitty headcanon?
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Hoopa's rings actually connect through the multiverse via ultra space, that's how he accidentally pulled Looker through.
Hoopa's legendaries are just fallers from one of many infinite parallel universes, not necessarily the ones we know from the games.
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>>30781345
When will boring people learn how to floow a games story and elements?

Anyway moving on. Time line is now rby, xy,oras, sm then sinnoh remakes.

The events of Unova already happened and won't be getting a remake. Sinnoh is probably our last remake.
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>>30781487
The only real difference I could see between the original and megatimeline versions of Gen 5 is that Colress would have a mega metagross as we do know Colress visited Kalos and thus is likely to have known of Mega evolution.
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>>30781024
>the nonmega timeline would have been without both megas and most legendary pokemon
This would make me fucking happy. Gen 3 started bloating the roster with shitty legendaries and it went downhill from there
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>>30781632
Grimsley as stated as already been defeated in sm. So black and white already happened but before the mega universe events of sinnoh.

Universes don't have to have the sequences in order.
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>>30781688
The events of Black 2 and White 2 occur simultaneously with the events of X and Y.
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>>30781024
>implying Hoopa's rings are canon
Hoopa is the worst legendary ever.
>haha I can fuck with the fucking dimensional Pokemon
>so funny right guys lol
That shitty Pokemon should be retconned from existence.
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>>30781781
Which is why there won't be a remake as I said.

I wonder if dp remakes will have ties to SM? Ultra beast forms? Necrozema form with 680 stats? Arcecus with special zmove?

Oras Wally is in the battle tree and rby Red and Green.
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>>30781811
But they're canon?
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>>30781487
You do realise that ORAS and RBY still occur at the same time right?
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Can someone give a non-retard the tl;dr of the theory?
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>nonmega timeline
>implying there aren't literally infinite timelines for every single playthrough of every single version and then infinite more that haven't been experienced

You are like little baby.
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>>30781889
I could see team galactic's actions could result in the opening of an Ultra Wormhole. I will be surprised if Canalave library has no aether foundation references as we know that team aether did do research there to gain information about the multitype abilty for type:null's RKS system.
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>>30781954
RSE didn't have megas in it.
ORAS does and acts like they were always there.
parallel universes.
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>>30781024
there are probably more than one legendary pokemon from the same speceisn the legendaries can be from the same unvierse
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>>30781954
Basically OP is saying that Hoopa ripped out the legends from the non-mega universe.
That then left them defenseless when the UBs opened up wormholes and attacked, one of which sucked in Anabel.
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>>30781952
They don't regardless of some twitter that was deleted. And they can't, wally is still young and the amount of pokemon in the game didn't exist in gen 1.

First universe was gen 1 then gen 2.

Second was the Masuda verse gen 3 to gen 5.

Third is Gen 1 then gen 5(exactly the same) then retconned xy in with oras later and now sm.

Eventually Sinnoh comes next in line. Also no Johto adventure exist, they can re-remake that again. Considering no character from that game showed up in sm.
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>>30782029
This is possible with some of them but not all. Specifically the Tao trio, Creation trio (although Arceus could create a new set), and the Legendary Beasts.
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>>30782086
Are you legitimately retarded?
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>>30782177
yes, but is hard to tell even is those ones are unique and GF will never give us our "legendaries are gods or not" headscanonshit T.T
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>>30781487
The timeline is currently

FRLG/RSE > HGSS/DPPt > BW > BW2/XY(Non mega) > SM (Non-mega)

FRLG (Mega)/ORAS > HGSS(Mega)/DPPT(Mega) > BW (Mega) > BW2(Mega)/XY > SM
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>>30781889
>Expecting no Unova remakes
>when GF said how much they love making remakes
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>>30782399
I'd say given the circumstances of the Tao Trio they're the only ones to exist.
Unless the original dragon is just naturally unstable and there was a whole race of them.
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>>30782383
No, you are. Retarded people use feelings and no facts. Following the story and matching things is how one can come to finding the answer so far.

Ohmori stated RBY over rides Frlg. Red is directly the Red from Gen 1, 96 shirt and is older age. While wally has no signs of age and is wearing his mega stone.

Oras wally isn't gen 3 wally. Unova already happened, Grinsley is proof of this.
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>>30782435
Timeline of mega verse.

RBY > BW BW2> XY>ORAS>SM.

Alternative universes in fiction don't have to have the same sequence in order. Your pattern cannot match to ORAS wally in game nor Red. It goes against SM's plot and characters appearing.
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>>30782520
>Ohmori stated RBY over rides Frlg.
[Citation needed] especially when there's nothing that suggests otherwise.

>Red is directly the Red from Gen 1, 96 shirt and is older age.
And? What point are you trying to make with this exactly?

>While wally has no signs of age
That's because characters that don't appear outside of the battle tree didn't get redesigns dumbass. It's literally a non-canon appearance.

>Oras wally isn't gen 3 wally.
Of course they aren't because ORAS and Gen 3 occur in two separate timelines but that's besides the point, see above for the age discrepancies. Also ORAS has events that clearly place it behind all of the other games including Black and White seeing as the Royal Unova is still in the development phase and Mr. Bonding is formed in that game.
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>>30782613
>RBY > BW BW2> XY>ORAS>SM.
That doesn't even make sense.
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>>30782695
Post game is always canon you retarded nigger. Wally is the mega wally. Anabel is from Emerald who obv aged. Red is older when he should be young as Wally. Your logic is fallacy.

You have no proof but your headcanon while I have actual story elements, characters, logic.

The Royal unova is a boat, not everything happened exactly the same as Bw did in the non mega verse. Neither did the making of the boat.

Checkmate digimon fan.
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>>30782748
It does. You are just a faggot. This is the new mega verse not the previous mega-verse. And not everything happened the same or in the same order.

Get over your autism. Masuda himself had hoeen and Kanto then Sinnoh and Johto. That's not even the same order as gen 1 and gen 2.
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>>30782841
>Post game is always canon you retarded nigger.
Post game is canon OUTSIDE of the battle facilities retard. Find me an instance of Wally outside. Next thing you'll be saying is that the PWT is canon and that BW2 occurs right at gen 2 because no one aged since then.

>Wally is the mega wally. Anabel is from Emerald who obv aged.
Yes but like I said, if they didn't appear outside of the Tree they didn't make a canon appearance in the game. Meaning Wally's lack of aging doesn't add anything to your argument.
Anabel also appears OUTSIDE of the tree and has a significant chunk of story dedicated to her.

>Red is older when he should be young as Wally.
See above.
Red appears outside of the Tree. He has canonically aged and walked around Alola.
Wally hasn't.

>You have no proof but your headcanon while I have actual story elements, characters, logic.
You do realise the crux of your argument is literally based around a character that makes no impact on the story right?

>The Royal unova is a boat
A boat that is finished and functioning by the time of Black and White and X and Y for that matter.

>not everything happened exactly the same as Bw did in the non mega verse.
And do you have proof of that? Because there are several references to past events and locations in ORAS, XY and SM that say otherwise.

>Neither did the making of the boat.
See above.
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>>30781024
>the nonmega timeline
>the
I don't think you know how branching timelines work.
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>>30782889
The fuck are you talking about?
Hoenn and Kanto occuring at the same time has no bearing on Johto following Kanto.

That's like saying the world doesn't exist if you aren't there to experience it.
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>>30783114
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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>>30783156
yes
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>>30783041
>>30783114
Both of you are wrong. The other guy is right. All post games are canon, SM doesn't get a exception because it hurts your feelings gen 3 isn't part of the mega verse.
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>>30783156
Short answer: Yes, you weren't there to hear it but it fell and made a sound even if the impact was softened.
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>>30783187
>SM doesn't get a exception because it hurts your feelings gen 3 isn't part of the mega verse
No one said Gen 3 was part of the megaverse.

In fact ORAS says it isn't outright.
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>>30781024
Or you know, you could not be retarded?
Postgame Legendaries mean shit. Otherwise explain how the Pixies, the Latis and the Regis, including Regigias, being in Unova.
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>>30783190
>>30783185
No. Sound is the sensation excited in the ear when the air or other medium is set in motion
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>>30783227
To be fair, the Lati can fly wherever they want.
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>>30783262
You do realise you don't need a means of hearing for sound to exist right?
Being deaf doesn't mean it doesn't exist it just means you can't hear the result of the vibrations in the air.
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>>30783227
This, plus the Regis being in Sinnoh, the Kanto birds being in Kanto and Sinnnoh at the SAME TIME.
Not to mention Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza in HGSS.
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>>30783359
noun
1.
the sensation produced by stimulation of the organs of hearing by vibrations transmitted through the air or other medium.
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>>30783367
>Not to mention Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza in HGSS.
That shit doesn't make sense at all. Especially since that means Mr. Pokemon outright robbed the couple at Mt. Pyre and magically created the jade orb.
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>>30783262
Sound is the vibrations that travel through the air. It is there, even if no one hears it. You can even MOVE THINGS WITH SOUND. Things that can't hear it.
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>>30783400
Uh, no.

>sound1
>NOUN
>Vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person's or animal's ear

Sound is the vibrations in the air anon.
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>>30783458
Sound is vibration, transmitted to our senses through the mechanism of the ear, and recognized as sound only at our nerve centers. The falling of the tree or any other disturbance will produce vibration of the air. If there be no ears to hear, there will be no sound
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>>30781964
This.

When you battle someone online you are literally battling a you from another timeline/dimension. This is why you can face someone with Tapu Koko even though you have one

Multiverse theory is a bitch anons. You can't just say there are [insert number] of timelines. Once you go into Multiverse theory it means infinite infinite timelines.
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>>30783497
No, not even close.
Sound is literally just the vibrations in the air or coming off of other materials. The act of hearing which you're describing doesn't change that fact.

Why do you think Beethoven could still make music while he was deaf?
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>>30783466
many waves vibrate trough air and arent sound, this is just a joke about the tree falling in a forest, please stop taking this serious
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They still had Garchomp and Excadrill though
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>>30783497
Look, sound is simply hearable noise. Even if you don't hear it, the tree will make the noise. Sound exists, whether you listen or not is irreverent to the universe.
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>>30783629
---->>>30783679
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>>30781964
>>30783552
EXCEPT! Multiverse hasn't been confirmed. We know multiple universes exist. And as far as we know, there's only a limited number of them, all with very similar events occurring in them.
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>>30783747
Yeah, it seems that pokemon is going more on a branching timeline system than a true multiverse system in the sense that the universes were the same until the mega event.
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>>30783701
ok, one last time, sound is just like vision, if someone is blind it cant see, the photons exist but not the vision, thats all yisus
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>>30783747
>Multiverse hasn't been confirmed. We know multiple universes exist.
I realize how stupid that sounds. I meant it in this sense:

Multiverse: a universe for each possible outcome
Multiple universes: a few universes, limited in number, created by Arceus himself.
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>>30783821
Then the word you're looking for is hearing. Will something hear the sound produced by the tree, even if no one is around? That is a more appropriate way of putting that.
Sound are just vibrations in air. They will be there, even if no one uses them to hear the sound.
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>>30783821
You do realise we've been telling you that the sounds exist even without you experiencing it right?

In other words, the tree does in fact make a sound.
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In physics, sound is a vibration that propagates as a typically audible mechanical wave of pressure and displacement, through a medium such as air or water. In physiology and psychology, sound is the reception of such waves and their perception by the brain
everyone is happy now, we can go home
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>>30783893
Do physics work the way we perceive them when no one is there to perceive, (quantum collapse and other buzzwords that normies, like me, throw around with out knowing what they mean)
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>>30784358
Everything over the quantum scale does.
Anything smaller is playing a dice game with rules we have yet to discover.
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