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Incineroar Thread

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Tame/Non bara edition
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>>30775827
> non bara
> When the mon is clearly bara bait

You can't have your cake and eat it too. It's a bara mon.
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>>30775827
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>>30775827
die furfag
>>30775852
die furfag
>>30775861
die furfag
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Fucking Nu-Male janitor eat shit
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>>30775921
Enjoy your ban. :^)
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>>30775876
>>30775887
>>30775924
Nice samefagging. Go and jerk off to your edgy owl
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Wait, why the last got thread deleted so fast?

Whatever, let's try to keep this one as Christian as possible.
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Is it time?
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>>30775989
It was a stealth fem thread and the op had visible tiddies
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>>30775958
>samefag
L O L
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>>30776023
Huh. I didn't even notice.
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>>30775827
Daily reminder that tiger bro is not for sexual.
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>https://exhentai.org/g/1003962/c7942eab4d/
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only neckbeards sexualize pokemon
>incineroar isnt bara
>tumblrina isnt waifu
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>>30775989
>>30776023 and >>30776123 might answer your question.
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>>30776023
Okay, I didn't even notice it had tits. Oh well.
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>>30776108
>>30776133
Honestly I've come to slowly tolerate the barafags in these threads.

They're fucking weirdos but generally nice people. And it's hard to find fellow fans when a lot of people bash your starter because "not muh quadruped" so we all have to stick together.
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>>30776194
Why thank you

And yes we're fucking weirdos but I personally try to keep my thirst contained in other places
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>>30776194
Lately, I think people's main problem with Incineroar is that weird top-heavy thing it has going that makes several parts of its body look unnaturally spindly. Back when the starters were first leaked, that irritated me more than Incineroar being bipedal.
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>>30775958
not even an owlfag, but calling literally any other pokemon edgy when incinerator is:
>Black and red
>A Dark type
>based on a wrestler that plays the bad guy
Have some self awareness anon
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Anyone have some shiny art of the Litten line?
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>>30776194
I mean, I won't deny I'm a barafag,but I don't think I'm a weirdo (or at least, not as autistic as most barafags on other threads).

And really, I like more when artists draw him all cute than when they draw lewds. Incineroar is a bro before than anything else.
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>>30776133
>deciducuck isn't nu-male
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>>30776247
I like the exaggerated upper body bulk, but I just want the forearms to match and maybe give a bit more leg bulk as well. Some muscle definition wouldn't be bad either.

I think Incineroar a great design with a solid concept, but it's like a 7/10 from me overall.It's pretty frustrating how it gets a lot right but falls short in key areas.
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>>30776338
Cute! CUTE!
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>>30776304
Yes, because the tiger heel with a deliberately cultivated hammy persona along with a soft spot for kids and the owl archer who makes high-pitched chirps when happu and whose reaction to being put in awkward situation is to pull a fucking Kenny McCormick are totally edgy.
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>>30776322
Ignore botabu, he's a literally filthy faggot and needs to die
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>>30776365
The previous thread twenty minutes ago would've worked if the OP wasn't a dumbshit.

>>30776381
nani sore
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>>30776389
shit meant to quote >>30776338
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>>30776304
I don't see how this goofy ass over the top tiger wrestler could be considered edgy. Also
>it's a Dark type so it's edgy
>it has a specific color scheme so it's edgy (even though black and red is only edgy when black dominates)
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>>30776222
o-oh
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Well, it seems like this thread is going to last longer than 10 minutes this time. Last thread's OP was a retarded
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>>30776381
Am I missing something other than googling him and seeing he likes Morenatsu and Bowser and hasn't gone under that handle for years now?
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>>30776224
would've been a better shiny
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Incineroar smells a lotta Nu-Males in here!
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>>30776436
On the subject of colour schemes, I really wish the Litten line's shinies were black and white or yellow/orange/gold and white instead of red and white. Mainly because it makes them look like fucking clowns, but also because the latter palette would've made shiny Litten look like my cat.
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>>30776671
Should've been Tiger Mask colors
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>>30776663
>incineroar will never fill your pert little nu-male ass with his molten seed
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>>30776829
Anon, lewd.
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>>30776222
Janitors sure are doing a good job today.
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>>30776829
Incineroar says Incineroar will take those bitchass nu-male arrows of yours....

AND SHOVE IT STRAIGHT UP YO CANDY ASS
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Apparently the ashnime episode focusing on the wild Litten airs today. Here's hoping it gets a relatively original backstory and isn't Charmander 5.0.
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>>30776936
That sounds pretty gay anon
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>>30776915
Unless there are nipples, I don't think they actually care.

>>30777060
I haven't kept up with the anise, but maybe if actually gets Litten, I'll watch it just for him sadly, I'm pretty sure he's going to be charmander 5.0
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>>30777225
They are, actually.

It's finals week and Wednesday though so makes sense they can't care about this shit atm
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>>30777060
>>30777225
Character-wise it's really the opposite of Charmander so far
>pissy
>prideful
>basically a cat stereotype
Idk maybe they'll pull out some bullshit like 'it's doing it to hide its inner struggle' but I don't think they're doing it thi time. I feel like all 3 of its evolutionary stages are going to be used as a comedic relief/bromon which is fine by me
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>>30777344
I wonder what it'll be like after it evolves into Incineroar.
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>>30777330
incineroar killed ballio and stole his ballons.
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>this is the closest we will get to a litten mlem
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Aw man. I'm late to a good new Incineroar thread.

Fave pokemon. I agree with others on his limb proportions and wish his hands were more paw-like and legs digitigrade, but a LOT of fanart makes him look great even with that stuff or even make the proportions work. Which I needed.

Ultimately his design seems very pokemon-ish to me and no worse than Feraligatr or Blastoise to me in design.

I prefer when he's drawn cat-like, or semi-lithe like how Japan does, and not bara, but most bara fans as mentioned end up pretty cool so I don't mind them at all to be really honest.
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This is what I meant in terms of (semi-) litheness and the limbs/hands/proportions still looking good when drawn right. That's my personal taste though. I know a more bulky fire tiger looks awesome too.
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I hope we don't have to wait too long for the starter HAs to be released. Really want to use Intimidate Incineroar.
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>>30776380

Like this pic shows, Incineroar on four legs works for any haters out there so I saved this pic on purpose.
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>>30778408
If the wrists on that Incineroar were a little thicker, it'd be perfect.
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>>30778465

I agree, but I feel like as time goes on everyone's mental image will just include thicker wrists. Lord knows fan art that otherwise keep entirely to the game style makes them so. Not that I complain.
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>>30776094
C U T E
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do you like fattyroar
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>>30778965
Aww he is cute is there more fattyroar?
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>>30778980
I can't seem to find it, but I recall seeing two lineart of him eating pizza
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tfw no cuddles
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https://twitter.com/NullGhostArt/status/808127850087784448

I guess he really liked him, this is his third pic
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>Decidueye threads get moderate to little shitposting
>Incineroar threads can manage to make some not fans come to a middle ground
>Primarina threads still have the most potential to get shitposted to death
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>>30779407
Not really.
Today's is the first nice Decidueye Thread.
Primarina's usually start with tons of shitposting, but gain momentum anyway.
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>>30779549
we usually have nice, comfy incineroar threads

the ones full of shitposting tend to be shitposting threads (i.e. with intention of shitposting)
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I have a crippling suspicion that this thread's going to get pruned.
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>>30779407
Nigga the Decidueye thread up now is their first thread without shitposting. It's a real milestone. I guess the shitposters got bored of picking on the owl.

This thread got to a shaky start because of that one mad samefagging autist but things have settled down now.
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>>30779633
nah we've seen posts here that have been deleted, and we've had incineroar posts that have uh... quirky... stuff that stayed
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>>30779633
i need more incineroar in boxes
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>>30779756
k
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>>30778980
>>30779086
Did someone call for some chubbyroar? why chubby cats look so adorable?
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>>30777453
I imagine it's going to be exactly how it is in the games. Maybe with a mix of Infernape+Gliscor added

>>30778339
You didn't miss much honestly. A bunch of standard shitposting at the beggining.

I feel like Incineroar just became my favourite mon. It carried me though the league along with Toxapex and it continues to do so it the postgame and I'm underleveled as fuck. It dodged two Focus Blasts from Mega Alakazam just because it loves me. I don't know man, I just feel really attached to it at the moment
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I'm not a fan of chubbyroar but admittedly they always fix up the whole limbs/hands/proportions issues in amazing ways.
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>>30776003
>mfw those animation are only in the Amie
>mfw it could have been use in battle when Pokemon are asleep
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>>30778433
>>30778433
Arcanine is already one of the Pokémon most used in VGC. Incineroar has better bulk, attack and even Fake Out, but a little less speed. I think he's going to be pretty great, and maybe an anti meta stample, since he counters both Celesteela and Marowak, and even Lele because she won't be able to just spam Psychic.
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>>30782007
>stealing her drink while she's distracted
This is why no one likes the owl.
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bipedal evo confirmed
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>>30782882
>Null- ghost
So, is it safe to say that pretty much the whole kemono community loves Incineroar? not like I'm complaining or anything
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>>30776304
what's with people obsession with calling everything they don't like edgy?
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>>30782882
every decade.
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>>30786450
By now, I don't think they actually know what edgy means, and just use it as a buzzword to describe things they don't like it and think no one should like.
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We need more pictures of Incineroar acting like a regular cat. No bara, no wrestling. Just acting like a normal cat.
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>>30786813
Like this?
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>>30786888

Great art. But that signature of the artist is what makes it.
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>>30786813
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>>30776671
I don't know I guess I never had any big exposure to clowns so I don't see it. The first time shiny Litten line leaked I thought they were cool as fuck but now they really remind me of candy Christmas canes and I have mixed feelings. Definitely could've been better with maybe white/black/blue coloring
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>>30784237
ng loves tigers
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>>30790623

Incineroar's shiny has grown on me, honestly.

Blue flames and maybe a much lighter gray would be amazing, but the actual one is of those derpy shiny schemes that somehow becomes better over time as you get more exposed to it.
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Just in case anyone wants a copy of the official art in shiny form. The guy who made it deepened the shadowing slightly, but that's literally a minor detail you wouldn't have noticed if I didn't mention it.

I have a white cat who's very outdoorsy, aggressive, and follows me on walks outside and I wonder if I want my main Incine-sis to be shiny to represent her in pokemon form.
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>That little "YES!" chant pose your trainer does before Incineroar does Malicious Moonsault
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>>30793069
I still think his shiny pallet looks so silly. But, it actually starts to grow on you after a while and now I love it.

I'm definitely going to breed a shiny once his HA is released
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He deserves to be loved by everyone
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>>30775827
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>>30795246
He's supposed to be happy people hate him it's his job
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>>30795469
It's when the kids start disliking him that he gets upset.
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>>30776384
A muscular tigress. Looks pretty.
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>>30776425
I don't know what this is supposed to convey.
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>>30777504
Wrong AU. Please make your own thread.
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>>30795258
We need an Rowlet drawing that shows its sexy legs.
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>>30795974
You're namefagging. Your opinions are invalid.
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This is the picture that started to turn me to like this thing a bit more.
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>>30796082
yes we need more laser light incineroar
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huh, so maybe Incineroar is gonna be a recurring character than an actual trainer mon
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>>30778476
I can't help but feel the artist didn't understand the original Japanese interview cat's expression of shock.
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>evolve torracat
>oh boy can't wait to see what his attack animation is
>mfw pelvic thrust flamethrower
Well played GF
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>>30798316
He was already shown to be one of Ash's Pokemon in promo art so I doubt it but he will most likely be released at the end to be with his dog friend (Rowlet with his birds too)
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>>30799171
it's not a promo art, it's more of a character sheet, and very rarely do they translate

with that said it's not so far off that it evolves up to incineroar to hang out with the team
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https://twitter.com/lstanl/status/809261361322606593

oh my
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>>30799183
You are talking about something different than I am
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>>30799224
isn't that old? the one that outright shows rowlet's his is the one where rowlet is highlighted along with ash and pikachu is newer
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>>30799239
I'm pretty sure the one with rowlet outlined in green is older than this.

It was posted for the first time in November
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/image/A5_hoE0NdfX-y8NVDeJPGg/

The one you are talking about was first posted in September
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/image/rjtdeA3uiqSlM7LI35LrnQ/
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>>30799276
in any case I don't mind, we're certified for an incineroar anyway

post more big tiger
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>>30799282
Agreed but I still hope he belongs to Ash so that he can extend his relevance in the series like Greninja did (who still gets talked about compared to the other two from Kalos)

anyway contributing
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>>30782133
Oh anon, you know that the owl is the most popular. Plenty of people like the owl
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>>30799478
no Rowlet is the most popular, not Decidueye

I mean by that logic Chesnaught should have been the mon they shilled
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>>30775827
>Ash got rejected by this shitty garbage
It's time to kill yourselves catfags.
Rowlet is the best and purest starter.
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1/2
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>>30799521
2/2

really lewd implications
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>>30799502
I mean if you expect Ash to catch a new pokemon every two episodes you're wrong. It's gonna be something like that
> master Stoutland dies
>Litten is gonna join Ash to get stronger either because Stoutland told him to do so or to avenge him because asshole Persian killed him
Or
>Stoutland says it's the best for him without dying or anything
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Incineroar x Leomon when
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>>30799529
>>30799521
This look pretty cool
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is there incineroar handholding
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Post more cute incineroar

Especially incineroar acting like a cat

>tfw have a cat that's a lot like incineroar
>looks surprisingly badass for a cat (not to mention he's a black cat for extra coolness factor)
>extremely loving and affectionate despite his looks
>follows me around the house
>protects his sister at all costs, scared off an outdoor cat when I accidentally left the door open (he's an indoor cat and he didn't leave)
>another time I left the door open a long time ago (when he was young. I was about 16 at the time)
>didn't even leave, it was open for a good hour because of shitty abusive babysitter (used to hit us)
>he went outside and just sat on the railing of the porch, keeping the house "safe"
>another time we were getting the upstairs renovated so I had to stay in the basement when my other family stayed on the middle floor
>someone walking upstairs
>he gets scared
>full on spidermans up the fucking wall
>stays in a little spot where the wall ends and the floor began, piping blocked the exit
>he left after a good half hour, got himself super gross

God I love him.
His name is Blue, and his name used to be Jet. What a cutie.

Pic unrelated
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>>30802377
His name was Jet before we had him, that's what I meant.
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>>30799362
>>30799502
>>30800209
Wait, so Ash didn't catch Litten? Damn, I hope writers just didn't want him to catch too many Pokémon right, and that he will still catch him later on.

>>30802377
Man, I've always been a dog person. But, after reading how you guys love cats on this and previous Incineroar threads, and how many artists depict him acting like a house cat, I've started to wonder how would be if I were to have a cat
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>>30775827
>Man, I've always been a dog person. But, after reading how you guys love cats on this and previous Incineroar threads, and how many artists depict him acting like a house cat, I've started to wonder how would be if I were to have a cat

Cats are very adaptable animals. If their owner shows plenty of affection and trust, cats will give theirs in return. Teaching them different things affect their personalities. They still have their own personalities, however. Blue has always been the playful little bastard he is, but Angel (his sister) has always been a shy, delicate little flower who also loves affection.

They're interesting animals to say the least. When you own them you learn the subtle cues they use to show they love you. Crazy shit like blinking very slowly is actually a way of showing affection. I'm not kidding about the blinking, by the way. That's a thing.

I understand the love for dogs too. All animals are really interesting and fun.

Pic unrelated, I don't have many incineroar (or veepee related) pics saved.
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>>30799025
When you get the bugium-z, teach Incineroar leech life then give it the crystal. Its hilarious and somewhat gross.
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>>30803007
Someone will inevitably end up making an Incineroar version of this one day, won't they?
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>>30803108
I hope they do. And hopefully with his smirk too.
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not my favorite, but bara cat is cool, so have this thing i requested in the drawthread
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I want an incineroar plush
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how does one achieve this angle
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>>30804245
Random chance when opening up Refresh.
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>No Intimidate and Incinebro is already sneaking tops in VGC

This guy is going to be a staple when he gets his HA isn't he?
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>>30805019
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>>30805033
>>
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>>30804448
Uh, translation please?
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>>30775958
>Fighting moves
>Working on ghost
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>>30806086
That's clearly a dark-type move.
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>>30806153
:^)
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>>30806153
>Inceneroar
>Learning dark moves
Nah.
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>>30802861
That actually sounds really interesting and cute. I really love my dogs, but maybe someday, I'll adopt a cat too.
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>>30805019
>>30805033
>>30805044
I love this partnership so much, so very very much. It makes me feel so cozy just to look at it.
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>>30808463
same
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>>30808664
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>>30808839
I like cats motherfucker
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>>30809021
Owlcucks are very insecure for some reason.
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>>30804810
He Arcanine with better attack, bulk, STAB in the most powerful Dark type Z-Move and also gets Fake out. He's a bit slower and without Morning Sun, yeah, but I'm pretty sure he's going to be used a lot once Intimidate is released.

>>30808463
Incinebro/Chicken-Chan is my BrOTP
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>>30808857
OC?
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its weird if i show this to my sister and she tells me to sent her the pic
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>>30809639
>showing your power lever
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>>30793069
Candy cane cat is so based
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>That other thread about people shitting on Incineroar with no reason other than "muh furry bait" or "we already have other wrestler Pokémon, reeee"

Feels good being an Incineroarfag
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>>30811162
Ebin meme, faggot
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>>30811162
>tfw Incineroar is becoming the new Greninja
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>>30811162
I'm pretty sure it's always an owlfag that spergs over other starters.
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>>30811260
Well they are the only ones that have a reason to be mad.
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>>30811260
>>30811297
I truly don't know, why owlfags get so mad when people like Incineroar or Primarina over Decidueye? I mean, I like the three of them, so, why do they feel the need to shit on the other two? Too insecure about their taste?

>>30811221
>Incineroar be the most popular fully evolved Pokémon this gen
>Incineroar will be added to the next Smash game
>Incineroar will have a new form next gen just like Greninja

God is real.
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>>30811545
>the most popular fully evolved starter
>when like 20 people picked Litten
Is it another "/vp/ BTFOs itself" episode?
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>>30811630
>Not popular
>He's the most petted Pokémon on Refresh
>Pretty popular in Japan because Tiger Mask reference and wrestling in general

I mean, I get that you don't like him, but he's still pretty popular
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>>30802861
>cat anon
PICS
I
C
S
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>>30804448
For >>30806001
[In front of protagonist]
"Since I'm a girl, please, could you go in front of me and open (it)?"
*crunch, crunch*
[In front of Machamp]
*chomp* *chomp*
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>>30811162
>the size of that mug
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>>30804810
wait, I thought people don't use him in VGC
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>>30813284
I see it pretty often, in Battlespot Doubles at least.
Probably because it's new though.
After bank, no one will use it.
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>>30813284
He's #35 place on usage in VGC on Showdown. Granted, he's not perfect, but he's still solid.

Also, once he gets his HA, I'm pretty sure he's going to be pretty common on both VGC and Battle spot
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>>30813618
>people using z crystals
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>>30814288
Why wouldn't you when they allow you to do so?
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this makes it look like owl is a fat stalker
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I swear his walk animation seems familiar
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>>30808803
As a former quadraped fag, Incineroar has really grown on me, but I do wish they gave him digitigraded legs.
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>>30814288
I mean, unless your opponent predicted who were you targeting and switches onto something that resists it, they allow you to nuke an specific Pokémon, that's pretty great if you ask me.

>>30814826
I do too, but I don't remember from where.
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>>30814826
>>30814967
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>>30778965
Yes.
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>>30814956

This is all they need to do, really.
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>>30814826
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u-qzqd8bLyw
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The sad thing about Incineroar is that even with the weird stats it would be viable if it had the right movies.
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>>30815580
what kind of movies? the porno kind?
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>>30815580
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>>30815580

Jokes aside Sucker/Drain/Thunder Punch, Knock Off, maybe Close Combat would do wonders for it.
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>>30816266
Intimidate is more than enough.

But, he's obviously getting both Drain Punch and Knock Off, and maybe even the elemental punches and Gunk shot once tutor moves are available. Sucker Punch would be nice, but I don't think he'll get it.
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>>30811545
I swear to god if they ruin Incineroar like they did with Greninja by shilling the fuck out of it and making the wild Litten in the anime into a marty stu once it evolves
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>>30814288
Securing KOs in 4v4 is sort of really good
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>>30817924

True, true. Actually, Thunder Punch is all I really want. Drain would be fun with Leech Life for endless recovery, at least.
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>>30811903
>He's the most petted Pokémon on Refresh
Source? I thought that was Rowlet. Is this for the Japanese Global Link?
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>>30813284
2 teams with it got into Top 8 and 7 IIRC???
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>>30818836
>>30811903
source? p-pls

I wanna join the incineroar petting club
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>>30818821
Morning Sun would be perfect too, to make him better than Arcanine in everything bar speed, but that would be asking for much.

>>30818836
I think someone made a thread complaining about that here a few hours ago. I've seen a few Japanese tweets and posts on Tumblr too, but I'm not sure.
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>>30819853
>>30819876
It's over
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>>30819876
>>30820062
I need that thread for giggles
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>>30820062
Heh......so this.....is the power..........................................................................of barafags.......................not bad..............
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>>30820079
I just found it in another Owlfag falseflag thread

>>30808595
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>>30820079
>>30820100
There was another thread, that the image in op was a photo he took of his computer instead of taking a screen shot, but I'm to lazy to check in the archived threads

>>30820091
He was popular among barafags even before the game was released, a now the kemono community loves him. Porn is a wonderful thing to raise a Pokémon's popularity, isn't it?
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>>30820273
what's the subject
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>>30809639
>the sheer size of those sidefluffs
>extending into the ear
Is this an Incineroar-Delphox crossbreed?
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>>30820570
Can't link right now so search archive for "Why him?".
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>>30820728
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/30807912/#q30807912

you mean this?

>those posts
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>151

wooo
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>>30820062
I'm glad this at least proves that he is liked, I wouldn't know it by checking English sites but Japanese sites treat him kindly and you can see the difference in fan art.

(ugh the image limit has been reached)
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>>30821538
What do you mean ugh? We finally managed to do it for once.
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>>30821547
It's not a fun thing to notice when you want to upload cute pics of your favorite Pokemon.
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>>30821538
>Incineshit
>Liked

LOL most people don't even know how to use Global Link you fucks. All this proves is that barafags really enjoy inappropriately touching their fursona.
>>
Someone's a salty sue :^)
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>>30822038
He's talking about Japan reacting to it, not Japanese GL
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Incinebros I assure you not all Decidueye fans are like the numales in the thread.

I love cats and Incineroar is based. Please keep up with the fanart.
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>>30822038
This post smells of insecurity
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>>30820771
Yeah, that one. O think everyone on this board either love Incineroar or are too tsundere to say it out loud, I can't think of any other reason for why they would make so many threads of how much they hate him.

>>30821462
>>30821586
Whoa, I can't believe we actually reached the image limit. Wish I could post more fanarts to celebrate it, but, well, you know. Let's wait until next thread.

>>30822038
Insecure too much :^)?

>>30823346
I'm a Incineroarfag, but I like Decidueye too, but Damn, why all those owlfags act so autistic when it comes to Incinebro?
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What's a good nature for Incineroar?
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>>30824603
VGC stats say Adamant/Brave if trick room team

For Singles, Jolly/Adamant Scarf/Band/Ass Vest are all decent. It's not an amazing mon but it does its job.
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>>30789088
Cats don't shake their tails when they're happy.
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>>30826161
My cats do this twitchy tail thing when they're excited. Even if it's not a full on wag, does it still count?
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>>30823632
I noticed the Greninjafags were also like this last gen.
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>>30826841
/vp/ has a tendency to be like that
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>>30826841
I guess starters wars are always going to be a thing. You know, people will always to prove their bros are "the very best". Some are more vocal than others tho.
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>>30827970
Yeah, at this point it's best to ignore it.
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Well, outside of a few shitposters, this thread went pretty nicely, we even reached the image limit. I think the next Incineroar thread should be in about a week, maybe then there will be more Christmas related Incineroar draws.
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