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/mgc/ - Monotype Gym Challenge Thread

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Welcome to the /vp/ Monotype Threads!

Here we hold a Monotype tournament where you compete to be a gym leader and represent your favourite type in Pokemon Sun and Moon!

We are in the early stages of development for the upcoming tournament that will be held into the new year, starting on the 7th of January.
Rules and format are open to discussion at this point but the general rule set is 3v3 best 2 out of 3 using flat rules. More specifics can be found here: http://pastebin.com/8eAQufm5 (embed) (subject to change)

Plenty of people will be breeding or injecting, so don't be afraid to ask for help with your team building!
Here is a list of Pokemon available pre bank for your teams: http://pastebin.com/6SmkqdQQ

Registration Form : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdT0klSCrDU-1Mu7f4xQ-dH_zAddN4FCMOjknhGJc-ZuoQIWQ/viewform
Team Submission Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfVEfC1if-lbwoNNx_fF0ztwZTbNRd1Pfjyood3EdRE38pLLQ/viewform
Both of these must be filled out before the 7th of January.

To see what other people have entered as: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-wSiWPdbBNrONyBBwgb00Fkt9ivFdE5Y2ffk2rN1Ygw/edit#gid=1351506886

How's your breeding going?
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second for best birb
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>>30766443
but that's not delibirb
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>>30766443
I will now kms
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>>30766463
>>30766443
These are neither Toucannon or Chatot.
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wewled
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>>30766113
>>30766203
Ice, with Ninetales/Froslass/Mamoswine/Weavile/Cloyster/Crabortion.
Normally, Mamoswine and Mr. Crabs cover my Steel weakness, but Scizor stands out because of the fact that he resists both of their secondary STABs.
Not to mention the SE Technician Bullet Punch.
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Does anyone want to battle using the /mgc/ rules?
I'm trying to decide on a type.
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>>30766731
You at least have a froslass with wisp right?
Does anything you can use have access to a fire move?

>>30766803
I have nothing to battle with on cart, but could do some stuff on SD if you wanted.
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>>30766890
Alright I made my team on showdown.
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>>30766890
Wisp helps, yeah.
But Scizor can just SD to recover attack.
I'm pretty sure none of the ice-types I can use can learn a Fire move, except for Hidden Power.
Except Silvally, but I don't want to carry an otherwise mediocre team member just to counter a single Pokemon.
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>>30767046
If it wasn't Scizor, it would be some other Steel mon. Sylvally might be what you need. Try one out on Showdown or something to see if it pulls its weight.
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>>30766731
>>30767046
I'm having that same issue right now feeling like I don't have enough coverage against BP Scizor.
Looking into every single Fairy type mon right now seeing what can live a hit decently or at least okayish to hit with a fire move it may or maynot have.
I'm already looking into Cotton Guard Whimsicott to deal with it, highly doubt it will help at all but hey it's better than the other idea I have which needs me to use something that might not be fully useful for anything else.
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>>30767111
Is Showdown really a good place to test for this?
Anyway, I have a Silvally build in mind.
But I'd probably replace Crab for it, which means I'd lose Bulk Up + Z-Close Combat wallbreaking.
I'm not sure if Cloyster can truly replace Crab as a boost attacker.
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>>30767036
Sorry, just got to finish something. Will be around 5 mins. Maybe a little less.
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>>30767184
I only suggested Showdown because I didn't know if you had access to your Sylvally yet. You gotta level the hecker up to level 85 for Parting Shot, so... yeah. If you already have yours ready to go, by all means try it out here or in battle spot, which will give you better data due to level 50, the meta, etc.
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I've been trying this team out on Showdown and it's been working out pretty well for me so far. Any improvements I can make?

Venusaur-Mega @ Venusaurite
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Def / 144 SpD / 20 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Synthesis
- Leech Seed

Nidoking @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sludge Wave
- Earth Power
- Fire Blast
- Ice Beam

Scolipede @ Lansat Berry (only Lansat because lolsmogon won't let me BP two stat boosts to Nidoking, would be replaced with Petaya Berry if on cart)
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Jolly Nature
- Megahorn
- Protect
- Baton Pass
- Substitute

Muk-Alola @ Black Sludge
Ability: Poison Touch
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Curse
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Haze

Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sludge Wave
- Hex
- Focus Blast
- Psychic

I used to use megabee but he's kill in gen 7 so I'm using Venusaur instead. Are there any alternative Ground switchins that might work as well? That used to be Gengar's job but unfortunately he can't do that anymore.
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>>30766731
Ice gets famously fucked by scizor, my best advice having run it before it to just build your team as best you can and hope you don't run into one. You can't possibly cover all of ice's weaknesses, so just do what you can, don't bother having one mon or move dedicated to checking a single poke.

GL m8
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>>30767286
Ok,my name on showdown is Bomieee.
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>>30767346
>level 85
I forgot about that.
i'll probably inject a test silvally then train mine if it does well enough

>>30767386
Is Venusaur even available pre-bank?
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I use fighting types!

too bad we keep getting shafted
>nerfed to shit last gen
>nothing of value given to us this gen
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>>30767386
Aren't megas banned?
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>>30767405
Ready now.
Name is da_notorious.
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My IGN is Sandy, I'm gonna be switching over to water-type
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>>30767392
nvm Sylvally a decent mon to help with scizor (assuming it hasn't danced with swords)
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>>30767467
Roger that.
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>>30767405
If you need mgc practice after, I can battle on cart. I'll be here for another hour or so, so just let me know.
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>>30767386
1. Megas are banned this time
2. Nidoking and Venusaur aren't in Alola
3. You can't get HA Scolipede in SM yet

Your team is incompatible; read the OP info next time.
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>>30767572
Sounds good man I'll add you right now.
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Gastrodon continues to be the bane of my Pokemon existence. Can't wait to have cradily back.
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>>30767980
Cool adding you back. Off note, but does anyone have an impish synchonizer? I need me an impish Sivally.
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>>30768001
I'll breed one for you real quick.
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Good not life orb item for gengar? Decided to give my mimikyu a life orb.

Also marowak, chandelure, or both?
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>>30768051
>silvally
>breed

If you want I could make you a impish one in a bit.
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>>30768095
Oh shit, was a dumbass and misread that. Sorry.
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>>30768070
I love scarf chandelure. No idea about Marowak
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>>30768095
He was referring to breeding me a synchronizer, but if you could inject one that'd be fine too. I'll still take an impish synchronizer though, it's one of 3 natures Im missing.
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>>30767985
Remember back in season 1 when all 8 of us got screwed over by Gastrodon? Good times.
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>>30768131
I hatched it and I'm in the plaza.
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Banded Dhelmise was too strong.
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>>30768051
Thanks for the abra mate and good battles. Gengar after 7 generations is till the bane of my existance and Im coming to hate Dhelmise too, but it probably didnt help none of my mons had their correct items equipped.
>>30768095
I'm working on making a QR code for it right now. If you're still here in a five minutes or so I'l post it.
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>>30768473
>>30768095
Here's the QR. Deposited a level 37 female parasect if you feel like getting around to it. If not I totally understand since it's finals week for a lot of people, myself included. Either way take it easy, I'm off for tonight, sleep tight.
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>>30768707
Your QR Silvally is level 86, but you're requesting a 91+ one on the GTS.
it's like i'm in /ekx/

Redeposit.
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>>30768707
I only have PKSM. I am a man of my word though so I'll make it in PKSM. Give me a bit.

If you don't mind I am just going to clone my null and give it your nature, IVs, and EVs. That cool?
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>>30768828
Wait did you already make it? I'll go make it but if you got it that'd be cool.
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>>30768852
I have the QR patch, no need to trouble yourself with remaking that Silvally from scratch.
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>>30768865
Appreciate it. Wouldn't be a huge burden but I really do appreciate it.
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>>30768707
Alright, I just edited the QR on my computer to fit your GTS post, since you're asleep.
Sent.
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I love sableye and want to karenfag and also skipped out on ORAS so I never really tested the megas but the mega is just too cancerous. Is there a stall friendly but not ridiculous set for it? The current smogon set gives it fucking WoW as it's main offensive move. I'm fine with stall but this is ridiculous.
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>>30769552
Wrong thread, sorry. Please ignore.
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>>30769552
The only kind of offensive set Sableye can really pull off is Calm Mind. And even that it doesn't do as well as its stall set, mega or otherwise.
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>>30769614
Yeah I love the UU set for it but with prankster being nerfed I'm skeptical of running that set on my mono ghost team.

Been playing OU then normal and want to karenfag but god damn even using this thing pisses me off. I meant it for the OU thread right now.
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>>30769552
Quite a bit of hypocrisy here desu
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>>30770000
DUBS AND QUADS CONFIRM
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>>30770000
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>>30770000
never thought id see the day
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>>30770000
honk
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>>30772097
please do not do that
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Just because

Normal 2
Fire 2
Fighting 1
Water 3
Flying 2
Grass 1
Poison 3
Electric 2
Ground 1
Psychic 1
Rock 2
Ice 3
Bug 4
Dragon 1
Ghost 2
Dark 2
Steel 3
Fairy 5

Total 40
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>>30772783
honk
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>>30772835
>dragon: 1
surprising desu
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I really wanted to use Silvally on my electric team but I'm fairly sure it's my weakest link. Little utility, not that fast or bulky and needs a SD up to do respectable damage
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>>30773633
What else do you have on your team?
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>>30768933
I feel awful for making you go through the trouble of editing my fuck up. I always keep the exp number in PkHex at 1 mil and that's normally enough for most pokes to be at 100, so I rarely check. I'm not a terribly great artist, but I'd be more than happy to write or draw you something for the trouble. You went out of your way for me and I truly appreciate that. Also nice digits.
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>>30767445
Marshadow?
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>>30773901
literally what?
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>>30768070
Specs?
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>>30773871
I'm used to it, stuff like that happens a lot in /ekx/.
Would be nice if you wrote up a way to make a usable silvally holy fuck
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>>30773950
The two ways Ive seen him run is an offense oriented steel memory set and a defensive fairy memory set that resists most 2HKOs. I wish Type Null had the same BST as Sivally just with more defense oriented stats.
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>>30773986
I meant in the context of my team, mono-ice____
I have no idea how to make him work, but I need the coverage he offers.
If only his stat distribution wasn't so mediocre.
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>>30774005
On an ice team I think I'd go for a more offensive build since defensive is a meme. 95 speed isnt great, but it's still above half the alolan dex.
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>>30766731
I use to be a gym leader for ice and the way I dealt with scizor was Hidden Power Fire, Endeavor Sash Mamo, Destiny Bond. You got to get creative
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>>30773810
I sat down and figured out a silvally replacement that fixes the gaping hole of "how do I kill dragons" pretty well for mono elec. Will have to make it later. So long, pupper
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>>30772835
Looks like I'm going to go grass then.
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I wish this was 6v6, I kinda have my team down but it's difficult to pull of lol.
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>>30774651
>6v6
I don't know if I'll be able to survive all the Stealth Rocks.
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>>30774651
Battles would take forever, so you wouldn't have best of 3... I feel best of 3 sets are more fair to players, since hax is less likely to hand you losses.
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Is Silvally allowed?
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>>30774954
Yes. So far it seems like a good idea in theory, since it helps patch holes in a lot of types that are fucked over without their bankmons.
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>>30774954
With the proper memory, yeah.
I'm guessing a decent amount of people will take him for coverage.
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>>30774737
Yeah SR fucks me over but in 3v3 I rarely see them so thats a good thing I guess
>>30774890
I guess it makes sense, but I mad a team and its kinda suited for 6v6 kek, I've done some revisions though and tested it in Showdown and I win like 40% of the matches. Then again everyone uses the same chomps and etc.
>>30774954
I think I'm using Silvally too, Turtornator is not pulling its weight
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>>30775088
Some people do use Sneaky Pebbles in 3vs3, but it is much more rare than 6vs6.

With that said, you've also got Sandstorm and Hail breaking Sashes this time around, as well.
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>>30775348
Weather is going to be very common this time around. Expect every water, ice and fire team to have their setters. My team has a terrain setter and I'm wondering if anyone else is using terrain.
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>>30775833
I have thought about running Psychic Terrain, actually.
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>>30768070
i run mine with focus sash.
works well with cursed body
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Callum, can you e-mail me a copy of my list? I actually forgot what move set I gave to two of my mons.
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before i go to work bump
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>>30775919
>psychic terrain
Read the rules

Christ
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Thinking of running boo boo keys on my team since Im tired of steel types fucking me over. What moveset is recommended and is prankster still good after the neft?
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>>30776809
uuuuhhh, oranguru can learn psychic terrain via smeargle, idk what u mean by about reading the rules ?_?
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>>30776809
lol do you think that terrains didn't exist prior to the tapus or something
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>>30766382
>no legendaries
>not even the really just ok ones

Damn, rip Zapbros. He an Gyarados have been the core of my mono flying team since gen 1. I hate learning how to do new things.
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>>30777440
elec is fine without zapdos
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>>30766731
Pls mail me your set once you finished it sendai
[email protected]
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Is anyone up for some /mgc/ practice games?
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>>30778797
If my internet isn't shit, I might be up for another round of anchor shot my entire team.
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>>30766382
>trying out dragon on showdown
>small pool to choose from, smaller if you count actually-ok dragons
>no megas nerf type hard in terms of usable mons
>no access to useful utility moves like sneaky pebbles
>look at type numbers, 5 fairy and 3 ice

Wew lad, I may have got myself into a grave waiting to happen here
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>>30778938
It is only for fun bby. If you lose any games and the people you lost to become gym leaders(assuming there is interest for it) you can get the sweet payback :^)
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>>30779868
of course its for fun, I just see it being an uphill struggle from the get-go
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I think I'm all done with my team. Just trying to consider if I should use Silvally, too.
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>>30778797
I might be down.
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Ded game
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>>30781791
yup.
Been refreshing every few minutes, much to my displeasure.
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>>30782337
If you wanna practice a mgc battle I'll add you. Seems like Bomie had to go do something.
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>>30782370
Yeah, let me finish EV Training this Type: Null and I'll hop on.
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>>30780526
I just got back.If you're still around I'll be available for some battles.
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Wonder if I can still post?
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>>30782370
You first, and then
>>30782529
You.
Sound like a plan?
Getting online now.
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>>30782580
Sounds good,I'll stick around.
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>>30782370
Trying to send you a request.
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>>30782370
your internet die?
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>>30782711
Sorry give me a minute. Fucked up and forgot two of my mons were holding the same item.
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>>30782775
No worries.
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>>30782775
just send a request when you're ready.
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>>30782775
good game, man!

>>30782622
You ready?
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>>30783031
Good game. Close one too, but Im glad to see adding Sivally onto my team wasnt a mistake.
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>>30783050
Yeah, definitely a good call. May help me decide to do the same.
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>>30783069
Yeah I'll head in.
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>>30783050
I was actually surprised at Primarina's special bulk. Never occurred to me that it might be kinda tanky.
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>>30783132
I suppose it IS a base 116 SpDef...
stupid me
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>>30783132
Primirina is a great specially defense off tank. Im currently running assault vest on it, but someone suggesting running primirina z on it instead. I'll have to see if I can manage to survive SE attacks with the vest off first.
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>>30783175
I still have to grind for most of my BP items. Super bare bones right now.
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>>30783118
Good game!
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>>30783118
Thought you were going to be Water, though?
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>>30783425
Aw I thought we were doing best of 3.Good game though,totally forgot about your hidden ability.
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>>30783463
We can, I guess?
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>>30783460
I'm thinking of changing since my water team is way too straight forward and doesn't have too much wiggle room in a 2/3 setting.Basicly swift swim sweep or lose.
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>>30783515
dat Shadow Ball crit
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>>30783973
I hadn't gone for a King's Shield all game so I thought you would Toxic that turn.
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>>30784006
I know ;)

The misclick on that third curse didn't do me any favors though.
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weeeeeeeew bbys if anybody wants to battle im here :D
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>>30784040
Sure, you okay waiting 5 minutes.
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>>30784006
Thanks for the battles, dude!
Good game!
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>>30784006
>>30784261
One of you the other ghostfag? Would love to see your team and battle. I saw you guys mention aegislash.
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>>30776302
Doing it now.
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>>30784301
b-but i though u were going to battle meeeeee
:(((((((((((
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>>30784261
Toxapex is always a bit rough for this team.

As seen here 7HTW-WWWW-WWW3-WCE3
I'll be sure to bring something for it next time and thanks for the 2/3 helps me tweak my team way better than a single game ever could.GG
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>>30784375
Didn't know if your still here.

Just got home so give another minute.
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>>30784301
G1:X37W-WWWW-WWW3-WCYF
G2:SFAG-WWWW-WWW3-WCYK
G3:VK7G-WWWW-WWW3-WCYS
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>>30784375
>>30784427
Ready when you are, I'm online.
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>>30784399
No problem, dude!
I gotta make some changes, myself.
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>>30784518
uuuh
whats ur friend code bby
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>>30784604
Oh sorry I thought you me. I'm on my friend's FC- 3711 7078 1822
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>>30784655
>i already have you on my friend list
why the fug i cant find u tho
why is plaza so shit
why gamefreak didnt kept the pss
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>30784702
I'll send a request.
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found u lmao
finally
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>>30784804
Damn I was real shitty there.

I didn't shinx was available island scan?
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New Google docs has thoroughly rused me for the last time, without any apparent reason. Only two teams were in the responses and both were extremely outdated. Any one that had submitted their team needs to do it again in this new form. I'll watch it over today to make sure that shit is actually get registered properly.

Apologies to anyone that may have submitted their team.
Team Submission Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdidyQUu6nl54t6FSqwLePyIbvsN-pUV7PKrLTkcKLJe6GvWw/viewform
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>>30785121
yes bby its is
ggs :3
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>>30784804
>>30785121
Either one of you want to battle when you're done?
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>>30785560
me bby lets go
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>>30785590
Hey GG dude. Of course the one time I decide to try gengar it costs me the game.
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>>30785590
Oh god good thing that Chinese Marowak isn't 0 speed.
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>golem was slower
weeeeew
bby i rly lvoe ur team, i love that u put some creative stuff on it that works really well
at first i was like, oh, another ghost mirror match
but then i saw ur dank strats and i was like weeeeeww
ggs bby i know u will get far on this tourny
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>>30786106
I kinda sacked Gengar going for a trick room instead of the KO but yeah that Marowak is Adamant not Brave and that saved me.

Good game
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I'm back, anyone want to go?
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What's the best way to put EV's and level stuff in this game?
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>>30787259
>being legit
My condolences. Trying to legit EV train is a pain in the ass in SM. You eed BP from the battle tree for EV items but at the same time the battle tree is absolute bullshit even with pokemon with perfect IVs and EVs. I don't want to be another 'just hack' guy, you play however you want, but I suggest against it.
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>>30787357
dont be so dramatic bby
>>30787259
pelago is super ez pz to ev train, since you can do it while you are not playing
so, just drop ur bbys before going to sleep, and while u go to work or do stuff for the day ur pokes will be fully trained
for each play session u get 4 evs
so put them to play 63 sessions to max a stat, then drop beans to halve the time, it should take 15 hours, and you can train 18 pokes at the same time on different stats

ive trained 2 monos that way

pic extremely related
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>>30787259
>>30787357
>>30787482
SOS battles also give better EVs, with a power item you can max a stat in a chain of 12 KOs
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>>30787482
Really?
How do you control what ev's you want?
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>>30787563
1 play session = 4 evs
so lets say you want a pokemon with 172 speed evs

you should make it play 43 sessions
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>>30787658
Wew. Gotta go back to Pelago
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Grill post
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>>30786986
I'll play
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Quick question

If I make a dark team, can I use Gyarados as my mega, or is it banned because it isn't a dark type until after the mega evolution?
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>>30788858
Normally, it would be accepted.
But megas aren't even allowed in the first place for this round.
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>>30788858
You can use it on a dark mono after bank, but not for this coming up one because megas are banned.
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Has anyone else submitted their team again? Is it still broken?
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>>30788697
I am fully erect now.
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>>30766382
What's the ruling on sleep clause?
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>>30789047
Good.
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>>30789198
There are no special rules regarding the sleep status
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>>30789037
I submitted my team again. Callum said he recieved it.
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>>30789198
It's fine.
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>>30789246
Hex Maniac is a gift.
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Bump, looking to play if anyone wants to.

Sorry Bomie, left and never saw your post.
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Anyone else feeling conflicted on winning or being creative?
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>>30790029
Not really. If i genuinely wanted to win i would be picking what i thought the best type for this would be. Since i'm not doing that, i've already conceded that i'm not doing all i can to win.
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>>30790006
I can be ready in like 10mins.
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>>30790006
Alright I can battle if you're still around.
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>>30790616
Sorry, let me add you.
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Is 95 base speed usable with Adamant/Modest, considering how slow Alola is?
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>>30790715
Yeah, what pokemon? I use mimikyu, base speed 96, and it outspeeds quite a few things.
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>>30789198
Interestingly, I don't see many people spam sleep in this format, despite being unrestricted. The only time I saw someone put multiple Pokemon asleep, they were using a Vivillion. It's certainly possible you could get all your mons put to sleep in one match, but I doubt it's likely to happen.
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>>30790616
You ready?
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>>30790751
I'm in the plaza,send a invite when you're good to go.
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>>30790751
>96
Trollish speed tier right there.
I was planning to use Silvally for coverage, but I'm having second thoughts.
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>>30790888
Silvally is good if you need a physical attacker, may I ask what type?
>>30790849
>ghost
Oh boy.
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>>30790918
GG

Trick room mimikyu? Mimikyu i great as a sweeper, trick room seems like a waste on it.
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>>30791069
Oops, meant for >>30790849
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>>30790918
>physical attacker
That's the problem, my team is made almost entirely of physical attackers.
So I'm planning make it a special attacker with Scarf/Specs.
i know that's probably a bad idea, i'll test it a bit first
I'm going with Ice, you might remember my team of >>30766731
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>>30791175
Oh yeah I played you, cool team.

Silvally's special movepool is quite pathetic, personally I have to recommend against it.
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GG I need to learn how to play mirrors.Never lost so bad before.
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>lived with 3hp
Holy shit, thought you had it.

Was a ton of fun. Interested in what you run on gengar. I gave my mimikyu a life orb so I went with specs for gengar. Personally I have to say mimikyu eally is better off as a sweeper then a trick room setter. Also why did you do the SD with marowak? You could've killed my sableye with shadow bone.

GG
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>>30791213
Not only that, I just remembered I can't use any items on Silvally, because he needs to fit the type.
Looks like my only options are Parting Shot/Swords Dance and 3 coverage moves, but I don't think that'll be good enough, considering his unspecialized base stats.
I'll probably just tweak my team instead of replacing someone.
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>>30791333
Isn't froslass a good decent sp.a sweeper? Smogon lists it as a hazard setter but 110 base speed with STAB ice beam and shadow ball seems pretty nice.

I actually love ice and was thinking of using it but the selection just seemed pitiful. If we do another postbank mono tournament I might go ice.
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>>30791213
>Silvally's special movepool is quite pathetic
Looks pretty great to me, how fucking good do you need it? It learns all the most reliable special moves in all the elements except Bug and Fairy, if memory serves me right.
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>>30791316
Gengar is Trick Room/Sludge Bomb/Shadow Ball/Destiny Bond holding a sash.

I thought you where gonna try and recover but seeing how much damage I was doing it was just a bad play on my part.
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>>30791410
>hazard setter
Pointless in 3v3, yeah.
But I made her more of a support mon with WoW, Shadow Ball, D-Bond, and i forgot the last move for some reason
WoW lets Mamo and Crab take advantage of their bulk, and might let the others survive for an extra turn or two.
Maybe I can replace it with Thunder Wave.
Destiny Bond isn't really for taking down enemies, it's for letting her survive an extra turn to apply burn or throw a Shadow Ball.
I went with Shadow Ball instead of Ice Beam because everyone else carries Ice moves anyway.
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>>30791479
It gets tri attack and and your basic STAB for most types (fire- flamethower, electric- thunderbolt). It's below average.
>>30791491
Two trick room setters? Looking at your team I can't see much other then dhelmise realy taking advantage of it.
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>>30791539
Crab has no bulk, that's exactly its problem. Slow? Not the end of the world. Weak? No, it hits hard. But the thing cannot take a hit... but I hope you can prove me wrong.
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>>30791539
Yeah hazards seem kind pointless. I was actually thinking of giving my marowak stealth rock because of the shit ton of bug users but I decided to box it.

Would love to battle you again next time now that I have chandelure.
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>>30791595
Gimmicks

Works with Marowak too.Registered as water but I'm having more fun with this team so I might swap.
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>>30791679
Hey if you have fun that's what matters.

I went with ghost myself since I love it and the options didn't seem bad. I feel kinda bad using aegislash but eh, if it banned I won't complain. I love smogon sword but it is pretty stupid.
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>>30791595
>It gets tri attack and and your basic STAB for most types (fire- flamethower, electric- thunderbolt). It's below average.
>flamethrower is below average
What, were you wanting to use low accuracy moves like Thunder and Hydro Pump? Sylvally learns almost all the best special attacks. Are you super butthurt about no Bug Buzz or Moonblast or something?
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>>30791750
Eh, it just is so much better as a physical attacker in my opinion. If you want to run it like that then that's cool.
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So I just got to the Battle Tree yesterday. I unlocked the IV judge. I'm amazed that it's a PC function now. That's incredible.

As a result, I just found out Luna gave me a perfect 5IV Stufful with Ice Punch. Bless you, child. Bless you.
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>>30790029
If you want to do well here you need to be creative. Copypasting smogon sets typically doesn't work out that well.
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>>30793031
>just got to the battle tree
Are you ready to commit sudoku from all the imminent hax?
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>>30793256
Same as always.
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>>30793031
No problem, put it to good use.
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>>30793320
How long has Sheer Cold Walrein been a thing?
I haven't seen it in the tree yet, for some reason.
Only Shell Smash Kommo-o.
literally ended my streak at 49
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>>30793256
It's the same shit as the Maison, just with actual characters people like to fight. Once Bank updates, I'll just build a team around Mega Lopunny and destroy everything (but Mimikyu) easily. I hope.

Heck, once Bank updates, I'll have thousands of free BP. At that point I can just enjoy the Tree for fun. Kinda pissed Moon gets cucked out of Plumeria and Sina, though.
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>>30793514
>free
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>>30793514
>preferring plumeria over ya boi
what is wrong with you

sina's understandable at least
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>>30793514
pretty sure adamant return would kill mimikyu dead after busting the disguise with fakeout

or power up punch if you want to get memey
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>>30793377
You know it.
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>>30793567
>implying
I want both.
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>>30793575
Would Fake Out flinch Mimikyu through the disguise? I've only ever fought the totem, so I have no idea. Substitute blocks Flinch, and I figured the disguise behaved like a 1HP Substitute.
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>>30793721
disguise only blocks damage, it doesnt prevent secondary effects at all so it can still be flinched, stat dropped, paralyzed, etc
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>>30793388
Since gen 3, always had it.
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>>30793744
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>M-Glalie banned
>Guzzlord banned
>Magearna legal
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>>30794014
???
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>>30794014
Magearna is banned but nice try
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>>30794053
Megas and UBs are banned but Magalearna isn't
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>>30794069
Nowhere in the rules
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>>30794152
It's in the flat rules, which we're using
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>>30794094
retard
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>>30794152
I can't see google docs on this potato, but I'm sure the rules state that legendaries are all banned; a group of Pokemon which Magearna is a part of. Sylvally is the only exception.

If there is an error, I'm sure Callum can fix it.
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>>30794152
megalagearnadon is banned m8
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>>30794281
you can't even enter it under the ingame rules because flat rules bans all mythicals
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>>30794310
I know, I just wasn't sure if there was an error in the docs, since I can't see them.
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>>30794335
All g m8
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>>30766382
Greninja is available pre-bank but he isn't on the pre-bank list. Would that be an oversight or is he just straight banned?
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>>30795162
Ash-Greninja isn't usable under Flat Rules.
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>>30795162
You can't use fuccboi form greninja
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do you guys swap breeding leftovers? Or does everyone just inject these days?
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>>30796371
I have some breeding leftovers if you want them, but I can also inject a ready-to-use mon if you want one.
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pls submit your team
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>>30799033
But I dont have my team ready?
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>>30799163
pls
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>>30799172
pls what?
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But I want to use Toxicroak in monopoison
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>>30799593
There will probably be another tournament when Bank's re-released.
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>>30799593
Wait till bank then
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How does the Prankster immunity work?
Will any status move fail against a dark type, when the user has it?
Thinking of a Sableye counter, which might hax me to death.
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>>30800393
Just have a dark mon out. Then prankster doesn't work.

About 80% sure tho.
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>>30800393
Yes.
Any move with Prankster-priority that targets a Dark type will fail.
Note that if the move doesn't target the dark type it'll work.
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>>30800393
any status move that has its speed priority boosted by prankster and its directed towards a target will fail, like swagger or twave
status like screens or tailwind, that affect only your team still work
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why do i have 9 possible team members to choose from
help
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>>30801435
Sane here kek, now 8 since I dropped one that wasn't doing anything.
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