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https://twitter.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/808612445170200576

We now know proper Johto starter distribution. Sorry fellow Totodilebros, it's been fun.
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I never felt like Silver having Meganium made much sense

Also isn't that how it was in the manga?

I wish Eusine came back in Sun and Moon
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>>30760822

What is this?
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>>30760822
>canon
You do know that pokemon works on multiverse right? each cartridge can be canon. This is just promotional poster for the johto distribution now bore off you underage faggot
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>>30760897
What?
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Oh cool, I always thought Feraligator suited with Silver's tough-guy imagery.
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>>30760849
>Eusine returns
>He is STILL searching for Suicune
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>>30760897
Yea but once it becomes addressed in the most universes, it becomes Canon. For example Red is canon over the female even though the female exists in other universes.
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>>30760971
I was thinking since Anabel has Raikou and Entei in the battle tree, Eusine could have Suicune
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>>30760822
I tought everyone agreed Feraligatr was Silver's "canon" starter ? Like it's the one that makes the most ammount of sense at least for him.
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>>30760822
Red - Charmander, Blue - Squirtle, Leaf - Bulbasaur
Ethan - Cyndaquil, Silver - Totodile, Lyra - Chikorita
Brendan - Treecko, May - Torchic
Lucas - Turtwig, Barry - Infernape, Dawn - Piplup
Hilbert/Hilda - Oshawott, Cheren - Snivy, Bianca - Tepig
Nate - Tepig, Hugh - Oshawott, Rosa - Snivy
Serena - Fennekin, Calem - Froakie, Shauna - Chespin
Sun/Chicken - Rowlet, Hau - Popplio, Kukui - Litten
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What's with all the Johto promotional stuff lately? They just released a Johto plush set alongside the Alola ones too.
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>>30760974
So ash is canon?
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>>30760971
He found Suicune in HGSS though.
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>>30761072
It's simple
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>>30761072
VC GSC release in the near future ?
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>>30761072
Probably because they realized they forgot to put any Johto characters in
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>>30761072
t-they are fixing those mememons that were like half of the gen 2 dex
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>>30761088
As we know him, in the anime universe only. A similar Ash can likely exist in the game multiverse but is likely to be just a regular NPC trainer and nowhere near as significant as the game protagonists.
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>>30761072
I thought it was because Gen 2 Pokemon were being added to Go. Clearly I was wrong.
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>>30761150
>Trial Captain Ash
>Only dialog is ALOOOOLAAAAAAA
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>>30761130

I fucking wish.
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It feels a bit bad to be a Feraligatrfag.
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>>30761150

Dude you wrong. Ash is canon. He fucking gave us his greninja.
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>>30760822
>Lyra
>not Krys
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>>30761072
It's just a thing they do from time to time, where they'll release a bunch of merchandise from a generation that hasn't been relevant in a while. Johto, in particular, seems to get it a lot.
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>>30761286
Kris died along with the GBC timeline
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>>30761323
>what is kanto
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>>30761218
Feraligatr is the one that could never be canon, as that would imply that for some reason silver thought it would be a better idea to steal chikorita instead of the cooler cyndaquil
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>>30761254
>Gary and Blue now coexist
>megas exist in the non-mega universe

Sure pal.
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>>30760822
And its exactly how I always pictured

Would be cool if GF patched them in and added them to the Battle Tree. Or in Stars.
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>>30761072
I know it won't happen, but I wish this meant Gen 2 Starter Megas.

If any gen's starters need them, its Gen 2 the most.
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>>30761127
Where are all these walk/run animations coming from?

Are they unused in SMs code?
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>>30761254
Read what I said. A SIMILAR Ash exists in the game universe, but he isn't the anime Ash because the rules of the entire Pokemon League and just the anime in general are radically different from the games. Same applies to Alain jf you consider that canon and not just an Easter Egg
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>>30761352
Kanto always gets merchandise. It's the other generations that occasionally get random promotional pushes.

It's pretty odd for them to do it this soon after a new generation. Pokemon Go was probably a factor.
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>>30761349
Nope. The non mega version of hoennen died.
Universe canon changes with new directors.

Anyway, they are promoting hgss Johto not the Gbc version. Plus it's time for gen 2 Pokemon in Pokemon Go.
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>>30761428
>Are they unused in SMs code?
Bingo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzk6A7FFBmI
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>>30761174
MFW his team is
>Parasect
>Leavanny
>A-Sandslash
>Abomasnow
>Ferrothorn
>Scizor
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>>30760822
Literally everyone always knew this, it all comes from the fact that feraligatr is most fitting for silver.
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>>30761354
>Feraligatr is the one that could never be canon

Feels bad, Feraligatr is my favorite water starter of all time and he just fucks up Silver's character so bad. I cannot take him seriously when he walks around thinking he's tough shit with a fucking Chikorita at all.
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>>30761054
>game characters
>blue
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>>30761096
And it was captured by a ten year old.
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>>30760822
Those are the characters most popular in japan (from johto)
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>>30761541
it says something if he can reach the league with it.
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>>30761426
>Mega Evolution was a mistake
>Johto starters get cucked as a result

And this is why Anti-Megafags are wrong.
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>>30761558
His name is Blue. Get out weeb.
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>>30761567
>Implying theres only one Suicune
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>>30761611
Gen 2 outsold every gen except gen 1. Nice try.
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>>30761054
>leaf
>canon
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>>30761590
I guess, but I want to have him be threatening and at the same time not give him my favorite starter.
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>>30761054
>Hau - Popplio
Sigh, I wish it weren't like this. The best way I'd think to do it would be to have the MC take Popplio, thus leaving Hau with Litten and Kukui with Rowlet.
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as it should be
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>>30760849
No. He has Feraligatr.

The crocodile with sharp teeth and claws always made more sense as the antagonists starter while the flower girly starter fit girl best for me.
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Well Totodilebros, it's not like he knew what he was getting when he stole Chikorita. He probably just grabbed a Pokeball and ran.
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>>30761505
I don't ge... Oh.
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>>30761850
Boy MC wears a blue shirt and even has Popplio shoes. If it weren't for people getting triggered by Primarina marketing would easily have him with Popplio.
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>>30760822
Yay, Ethan gets best starter!!
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>>30761907
>>30761505
pls explain
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>>30762002
B U R A S T O
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>>30761072

Johto reremake confirmed
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>>30761645
Game Freak doesn't care about her, but TPC at least acknowledges her existence.
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>>30761850
Incineroar is a wrestler, I can't let him not go to Kukui
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>>30761952
Kukui is a part-time wrestler. He gets Incineroar by default. The rest falls in line.
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>>30762250
>Kukui is a part-time wrestler

No he isn't
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>>30761368
>implying that Videogame's Ash would work just like the Anime's Ash.
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>>30761445
I like to think Yellow is in the current verse separate from FRLG with megas, and the MC of that is Ash.
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>>30761868
That's basically what I was saying

OP said he thought the MC should have Totodile but I was argued that'd mean Silver would have Meganium which would be weird.

By "Also isn't that how it was in the manga" I meant the OP image. Pretty sure Gold had Cyndaquil and Silver had Totodile in the manga. I think.
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>>30761629
No, it is Green because you know, Japan says so and they're the character's creator, fuck off with your absolutely unnecessary name-changes.
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>>30761567
Suicune meets Ethan/Lyra but catching it is up in the air. Like most legendary meet ups where catching it isn't a part of the plot.
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Gen III
RS
RBY Remakes

Gen VI
RS Remakes
RBY Virtual Console

Gen IV
DPPt
GSC Remakes

Gen VII
DPPt Remakes
GSC Virtual Console
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>>30762250
He doesn't even fight you in the wrestler gear. Most likely so fans WOULDN'T make arguments like that. Eat shit.
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Ethan having Typhlosion was pretty much the agreed head-canon anyway, so no big surprise here.
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>>30761254
In the demo.

The demo is a separate universe.
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>>30762411
Oh. My mistake then. Thanks, for not tearing me a new one like most other people here would.
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>>30761054
No, it's
Red - Bulbasaur, Green - Charmander, Leaf - Squirtle
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>>30763093
no one believes this
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>>30763093
Doesn't seem to be the case
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>>30763093
This, Red is often show using bulba, though the colors not matching the types does trigger my autism a little bit
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>>30763106
Not him, but Red was shown with Bulbasaur in official art from the RBY days.
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>>30763209
Don't forget generations
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>>30763209
Well, does anyone else remember the original trainer manual that came with Red/Blue? You were recommended to use Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Charmander in that order.

Bulbasaur was easy mode through to Charmander as hard mode based on the first few gyms and forest/caves.
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>>30763275
>Charmander
>Hard mode
Come on now, son. Brock doesn't carry a single rock type move and you can find grass Pokemon outside of Cerulean. They even gave Charmander Metal Claw in FR/LG to handhold the babies who were too stupid to catch another Pokemon before Brock.
Bulbsaur is the hard mode.
>Blaine
>Sabrina
>Koga
>Loreli
>Agatha
Bulbasaur was also Red's canon starter but they retconned it to cash in on Charizard fanboys.
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>>30763177
>>30760822
Hol up, are we getting these for all gens?

The first two gens are pretty obvious to guess/headcanon but if they keep going they'll probably be some BTFOs later this week
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>>30764001
Going by those images the Gen 1 badges were released back in august and the Gen 2 ones now in december. So it'll probably take a few months before they make Gen 3.
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>>30761054
>Implying Hilda wouldn't have a faithful Tepig
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>>30764284
>faithful Tepig
DELET THIS
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>>30760822
Eh, it's not like this is a surprise. But still, Typhlosion is shit.
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>>30763177
I've seen Red with Charmander and Bulbasaur but never Squirtle. Is Blastoise forever cucked?
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>>30760822
Red is the only canon main character stick that in your fucking mind.
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Isn't Yellow canon since Red has a Pikachu and all 3 stars in his team in any later game?
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>>30762141
>Oak's ace is Nidoran¤
What did they mean by this?
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>>30760822
Isn't this how it always works? Canon male protag fuck Japan chooses fire starter hence rival gets water and the likely unseen girl fuck Japan gets grass?
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Red's starter is Poliwag.
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>>30764487
Supposed to be the very final fight after defeating Champion Blue but got dummied out and later picked up again after 20 years
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>>30761499
Following Pokemon in Stars/DPPt remakes confirmed?
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>>30760822
It's not so much the fact that it's Cyndaquil.

It's the fact that if the protagonist gets the fire starter for Gen II, there's no fucking pattern because the only pattern there could have been with Cyndaquil is 'the protagonist always gets the fire starter" which can't be true given that Greninja is obviously the Gen VI starter
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>>30761505
All with the Fluffy ability?
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>>30764522
But canon male and unlikely seen girl only describes Gen 1
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>>30764554
Yeah but he never had a Nidoran in the RBY files
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>>30764630
>12 years later, the MX/UY canon starter is chespin.
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>>30760822
please kill yourselves canonfags.
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>>30760822
IT IS WRONG! START ELF OF EGGIE IS THE CROC, AND CHEDR TO HAVE QIAOK
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>>30764705
Holy shit you fucking faggot, just watch generations and you'll learn that male protagonists are canon in every generation. Only faggots play as girls (and girls, but girls only pretend to play pokemon to impress boys), so it's nice that GameFreak is finally recognizing that. I hope in gen 8 you won't be able to play as a girl, because that'll free up so much space on the cartridge by removing a character that only degenerates play as.

>>30760822

I've always known this. Ethan gets the best starter, Silver gets the starter strong against that, and Lyra gets the shitty girl starter. Anyone who thinks anything else is wrong, deal with it.
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my biggest issue is Koga having Crobat as his signature Pokemon instead of Venomoth
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>>30761286
Krys was a cooler design imo. Lyra's fine too but doesn't look as cool.
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>>30762412
Only on the japanese games though. Suck my dick, weebster.
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>>30764442
Fuck off. That buzzword makes no fucking sense in that context.
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>>30764887
Holy fuck you're a retarded faggot. Generations is an adaptation similar to how mangas and anime go except more game accurate. IF IT WAS canon then bw2 had no protagonists and dawn/lucas never showed up at mount coronet.
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>>30765088
I hate the word but even I get it here. It means Blastoise is the one left out, it's never going to be paired up with the MC. Which then means it isn't going to have as much merch as the others.
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canon and continuity does nothing but make everything more small and less expanse
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>>30765156
Blastoise gets a LOT of love considering it's a g1 starter and all three even got nendoroids. Besides Blue/Green having a blastoise aint so bad since I kinda like him.
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>>30765225
Multiverses are retarded and a pathetic excuse to justify plotholes and having a good and well-structured narrative.

You CAN make a good story while having a maintained continuity.
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>>30765052
Your rules will never be the real canon, and I can't find your dick to suck.
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>>30765308
Nor will yours. Here you go. It is my dick.
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>>30765325
Thanks cutie.
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>>30765345
No problemo, sexy.
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>>30764601
You're catching up nicely
Soon, anon. soon.
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>>30764630
this is the pattern:

give the girl the girliest looking starter
give the male protagonist the most marketable and most popular starter of the remaining two
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>>30760867
Apparently they're releasing badges
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>>30765546
So who's the girliest Gen IV starter?
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>>30765594
We talking the game badges or the pins in the OP?
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>>30765599
Piplup. Just don't evolve it, like what happened in the anime.
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>>30761054
Red having all the starters is canon.
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Here is the full picture if anyone interested.
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>canon
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>>30766093
It's weird how Koga's daughter is paired with the Johto characters rather than the Kanto ones.

Though, since they're Ninjas, they probably came from Mahogany Town
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>>30764887
very weak bait. No, me calling your post lame doesnt count as falling for it.
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why is red/fire always canon?

is it because it's kewl and edgy to little kids?
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>>30761054
>Nate - Tepig, Hugh - Oshawott, Rosa - Snivy
I agreee with most of what you posted but I dunno about this one
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>>30760822
HGSS remakes confirmed?
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>>30761054
>Sun/Chicken - Rowlet, Hau - Popplio, Kukui - Litten
I really think Elio gets Litten and Chicken gets Popplio, simply because they were shown with them in the game's opening.
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>>30770057
It is from the BW2 animated trailers.
>>30770934
I agree. If they create something similar to these pins (some art pairing starters and protagonists) if chicken was depicted she will definitely get Popplio due to it being most feminine, like how Lyra got Chikorota. Kukui will be pair with Rockruff/Dayrock instead.
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>>30761254
You realise the demo isn't canon right?
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>>30761637
And killed pokemania as a result of being subpar games
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>>30763723
>Bulbsaur is the hard mode.
>>Blaine
>>Sabrina
>>Koga
>>Loreli
>>Agatha
By the time you reach these guys you're already decked out with moves to demolish them.
Meanwhile pretty much every part is against Charmander
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>>30762376
I think Hat-Pikachu proves that Yellow's protagonist is Ash.
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>>30764487
it's the Pokemon he sends out during the "Welcome to the World of Pokemon" speech
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>>30760822
Was Sun and Moon supposed to be an anniversary game? Because to me it seemed like an ordinary game for a new generation, they didn't even have any gen 2 representation for the Battle Tree or anything.
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>>30772042
That's because no one cares for gen 2
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>>30760822
Except Ethan is a faggot and deserves Chikorita while Lyra should get Cyndaquil.
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I liked it better when it was Krys with Totodile, Ethan with Chikorita and Silver with Cyndaquil.
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>>30761499
No running animation? I was hoping to see fatsos Venusaur, Charizard and Blastoise run.
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>>30773052
Worst girl getting worst starter sounds fitting though.
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>>30760822
Canon starters = manga
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>>30761150
There's a picture of ash with Pikachu on the ghost trial so he exists in games
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Red - Venusaur/Charizard
Gold - Typhlosion
Brendan - Sceptile
Leon - Torterra
Hilbert - Samurott
Nate - Emboar
Calem - Greninja
Elio - Decidueye
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>>30773084
>not wanting a Bayleef

What are you, gay?
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>>30765658
Cute does not equal girly
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>>30773152
>Leon
???

Anyway, this fine, and I agree with all but Hilbert's. Emboar doesn't seem like Pokemon Bianca would have. Serperior would be a better candidate for Hilbert. Though that makes more than half of the canon starters Grass.
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>>30761445
>A SIMILAR Ash exists in the game universe,

You do realize that you just described Red, right?

Ash is literally just an alternate version of Red.
The only difference is that, unlike Red, Ash will never accomplish anything.
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Of course Feraligatr was canon Pokémon for Silver
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Red: Charizard/All three
Ethan: Typhlosion
Brendan: Sceptile
Lucas/Dawn: Any of the three/Empoleon
Hilbert: Serperior/Samurott
Nate: Emboar
Calem: Greninja
Sun: Decidueye

Sounds about right to me. Water starters are eternally cucked.
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>>30771207
You mean Gen 3

>>30771288
This makes sense. Ash beats the Kanto League then goes to Kalos and gets a Battle Bond Greninja.
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>>30773283
>Red: Charizard/All three

>His highest level Pokemon is Pikachu.
>He has all three starters on his team.
>Blue doesn't have any of the starters on his team.

Yellow version is clearly the canon first gen game, making Red's starter Pikachu.
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>>30773237
I mean Lucas

>Emboar doesn't seem like Pokemon Bianca would have
Come on they are cute together
Also Serperior doesn't fits with Hilbert, only Samurott does
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>>30773328
Remakes replace original. FRLG were remade. Yellow wasn't.
As for Blue, in Yellow, he has Cloyster, Magneton, Ninetails and Sandslash on his team in Yellow. None of them are every seen again.
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>>30773283
I'd for sure say Lucas should have Torterra. Firemonkey suits Barry really well.
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>Bianca has green cloths
>Cheren has blue

Hilbert gets Emboar. Yes, both Hilbert and Nate get Embaor. Deal with it.
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>>30773361
Agreed. Torterra fits Lucas too. But as far as we know, Dawn could be the Gen 4 protag. In that case, Empoleon is the obvious choice.
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>>30773363
>Bianca has orange clothes
Bianca and Emboar confirmed then
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>>30771288
>Ash
>Champion
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>>30773376
>female
>canon

NEVER
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>>30773382
>Bianca has orange clothes
>Hilbert has blue clothes

Hilbert gets Samurott.
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>>30773385
Dawn is the only one who has the chance, anon. Her resemblance with Johanna is clear.
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>>30773399
>female
>chance
Try harder
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>>30773414
>This thing
>Owning Giratina
No, those triple dubs were enough. I don't need to try harder.
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>>30773414
>triggered by female MCs
Dawn, Serena and Rosa are clearly the canon characters and if you disagree you are wrong.
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>>30773384
Clearly game Ash is a completely different beast from anime Ash.
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>>30773158
How not liking a weak and weirdly-happy abort of dinosaur or whatever it is supposed to be makes me gay? The hell?
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>>30773363
>cutie Bianca doesn't having daddy Emboar
>smart Cheren doesn't having the refined starter, Serperior
>protag Hilbert doesn't having the cool samurai Samurott

consider sudoku
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>>30773434
>Serena and Rosa
>canon
>One lost her chance before the game came out
>The other lost her chance when she get a better hairstyle as an NPC and Shauna came to exist
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>>30773420
>>30773434
>argument
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>some people really think females can be canon in those japanese game where yuri isn't even an option
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>>30773456
Better than your "argument".
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Wait, people still don't think chicken is canon after she dominated 90% of the trailers?
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>>30773508
>Red is canon
>Gold canon too
>same Brendan
>Hilbert too
>Nate canon even before the game were released
>Calem starter is Greninja, most popular pokemon in ages
>Elio and Lillie have a romantic tenssion totally non existing if you pick the female (also the opposite character doesn't exist and they are 11yo because Gen 1 paralellism)
>japanese company

Those are argument, where yours, kiddo? Why anyone would believe female characters are canon?
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>>30773610
But anon Serena is clearly canon here

Y was even confirmed canon
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>>30773610
>Others are male, so it MUST be the same this time
Compared to >>30773399
Your argument is just ridiculous.
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>>30773610
None of those are arguments.

Obviously neither MC is canon outside Red and posts like this are super autistic
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>>30773619
For now. They can pull another Hoenn and have both Legends appear. Besides, Y is canon. Not Serena.
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>>30773634
>He's dumb enough to actually believe that
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>>30773619
>Y
>canon
No

>>30773629
Are you just shitposting, right?
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>>30773634
>there's someone out there who actually believes this
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>>30760822
I really fucking hate the HGSS designs

Why'd they make them so skinny and childish?
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>>30773651
Not them but its a pretty retarded argument.
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>>30773683
Because they're kids and skinny?
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>>30773629

>all confirmed protagonist are males
>male character in XY implies the most popular starter in Japan
>SM protags esque is made to be parallel with RGB's which have male as canon protagonist
>also XY with Serena and SM with Selene lack a point of the story (Sana/Lillie romantic interesse)
>JAPANESE company
>not only japanese, Nintendo is originally from Kyoto, Kyoto is to Japan what Japan is to the rest of the world

vs

>the protag-mother resemblance is slightly better done if you pick a girl
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>>30773683
>Why'd they make those japanese 11 years old child so skinny and childish?
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>>30760915
Each copy of every game in existence constitutes its own reality. Which means every time we go online or trade with friends, we're technically communicating with alternate versions of our player-character.
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>>30760897
The only evidence we have for this, the alternate universe shown in SM, implies almost nothing changes between these universes. They have the same protagonist, with the same Pokemon.
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>>30760849
Kinda makes sense. He calls it weak and stuff.
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>>30760822
Well good, in a way, Kris has Chikorita then?
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>>30773753
The only confirmed protag is Red
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>>30773753
You are putting a lot of effort to prove something that isn't even canon either way
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>>30761054
>kukui
>litten

What the fuck does kukui have to do with wrestling?
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>>30776341 (You)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwhnt4ytE3k
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>>30776417
>anime trailer
I have no idea why this is so important to you to prove
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>>30760822
>implying people haven't been pairing gold/ethan with cyndaquil since gen 2
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>>30776454
>anime trailer of the game
>why this is so important?
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Red - Bulbasaur
Gold - Cyndaquill
Brendan - Treecko
Lucas - Piplup
Hilbert - Samurott
Nate - Emboar
Calem - Froakie
Sun - Rowlett
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>>30776697
>Lucas - Piplup
>so Dawn - Infernape

Not happening
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>tfw your favorite gen 1 starter is charmander
>tfw your favorite gen 2 starter is cyndaquil
>tfw your favorite gen 3 starter is treecko

Who else here /canon/?
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>>30776806
>Charmander
>canon
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>>30776806
Same bro. Nearly all of my picks are canon as fuck.
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>>30776778
>Implying
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I want to cum in Silver
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>>30762141

>Koga
>Koffing

C'mon, it was supposed to be Venomoth, right?

>Giovanni
>Ryhorn

Ok, this is stupid as shit, it's clearly Rhydon.
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>>30766093

Falkner
>Not Noctowl

Bugsy
>Not Scizor, but it's the second gym, so Ok.

Whitney
>Ok

Morty
>Not Misdreavus/Mismagius

Jasmine
>Ok (waifu)

Chuck
>Not Hitmontop
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>>30764887
Generations has contradicted it's own canon at least once, ya ween. And even if it didn't, TCPI handing off miniplots to a bunch of different animation studios is not grounds for whether or not something is "canon" to the games, what's canon to the games is--shock! surprise!--the events that occur in the fucking games.
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>>30776923
Koga and Giovanni's strongest Pokemon in FRLG were Weezing and Rhyhorn.
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>>30761054
>Lucas - Turtwig, Barry - Infernape, Dawn - Piplup
Except an artwork of the Platinum Battle Frontier clearly shows that the canon thing is Lucas - Piplup, Barry - Turtwig, Dawn - Chimchar.
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>>30776697
Red - Bulbasaur already BTFO >>30763177
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>>30776978
Literally all of them are gen 2 aces. What are you >implying?
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>>30760822
>Johto starter distribution
i thought gamefreak retconned johto out of canon.
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>>30776978
>not having whitney, clair or karen as your johto waifu
that's some shit taste you got here.
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>>30777051
Red using the red pokemon and Green using the blue pokemon = not fitting
Red using the green pokemon and Green using the red pokemon = POTTERY
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>>30761633
Because turning dead pokemon into suicunes is just a thing Ho-Ohs all do on a regular basis.
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>>30777836
Newer official art >>> older official art

And Red using the red Pokemon and the rival using the blue Pokemon makes sense stateside :^)
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>>30761054
>hilbert oshawott

Massive retardation
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>>30777883
But swecoon is ice typed and vaporon is an water type. That doesn't make sense. Why would hoho evolve it into a different type?
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>>30777883
>implying all legendary dogs are Ho-oh's sons
Pokedex even say Entei born when a volcan erups.
When Eevee is exposed to water/fire/electric energy, becomes Vaporeon/Flareon/Jolteon, when recibe a huge amount of this energy becomes Suicune/Entei/Raikou, Johto's dog is just a trio of this pokemon resurrected by Ho-oh
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>>30776407
Well, considering he is good enough friends with the Masked Royal to return his lost mask, he probably has some interest in wrestling.
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>>30762002
They are all x4 weak to fire, i.e. ash
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>>30760822
Well game freak does retcon a lot of things.
>red was meant to have bulbasaur
>ethan was supposed to have Totodile
>brendan was meant to have mudkip

However the "canon" starter really isn't a thing that exists because if you wanna go by "most fitting" then everything falls apart for certain gens if you pick the "most fitting" starter for either male or female.

If you wanna take into account the male protag only then sure this works for rby, gsc, rse and dppt, but it falls apart in bw, bw2, xy and sm. If you consider mudkip being the intended starter for brendan like it originally was then it falls apart there too.

Game freak also retconned a ton of other shit like wallys gardevoir, wattson having a manectric as his ace, gen 4 fire elite four team, volkners ace pokemon being electivire, etc. So shit like this is very inconsecquential. I mean if you wanna look at it this way, red is the only protagonist that has made comebacks in recent games and he has all the starters from his gen. They'd probably do the same shit with Ethan too.
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>>30761218
>Tfw you're a Feraligatrfag AND a Silverfag
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>>30778538
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>>30778559
>whitney as a companion
a missed potential i say!.
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>>30778044
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>>30764842
Underrated post
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>>30773610
>totally non existing if you pick the female
Right because 30 hours of interactions are completely non existent.
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>>30773635
pokespe ain't affecting game canon anon
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>>30773753
SM doesn't lack the romantic interest reparted through the whole game.
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>>30773500
It's an option.
>>
>thread about canon starters.
>it got derailed into male vs female MC
>finally degenerated into het vs /u/
Oh boy here we go again.
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>>30779484
>female
>30 hours of interaction

>male
>30 hours of interaction + love
You really not see the lack?


>>30779540
Sana and Lillie doesn't go wet for Serena or Selene, anon
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>>30763177
>>30779092
I've always felt Charmander fits Blue/Green best and Bulbasaur fits Red best, especially since the original games (and character names) were Red/Green. Grass type is calm like Red, fire type is aggressive like Bleen.
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>>30779912
Those 30 hours of interaction have parts of love too. And Lillie goes wet for Selene since the moment Selene saves Nebby.
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>>30761499

It'll be nice havin this in Stars. Gamefreak clearly aren't the best programmers, but suddenly jumping from preGC-ish power to something that can run gen 8 console games will be superb for them. I can imagine lotsa of features they always dreamed of implimenting. It will look pretty, too.
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>>30761054
>LiterallyLu? as the protagonist
>Not Dawn
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>>30780077
Nope, there's a different dialogue if you pick the girl in some parts of the game so without doubt GF shows Lillie have different feels for the main character if his a boy. Only hetero is allowed in the game
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>>30781536
>some
One single part. The rest of the game still has all the romantic interactions between them.
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>>30780024
That's the point, anon

Grass starter is calm and serene, like our silent protagonist.
Fire starter is a aggressive dick trying to look cool like the rival.

Protagonist's job is complete the pokedex so he starts for the begining, the number 001, the grass one.
Rival just want fuck the protag so he pick the type with advantage against protag starter, the fire one.

Grass type is linked to the green color, but is the Red character who pick him.
Fire type is linked to the red color, but is the Green character who pick him.

Red choosing Charmander and Green choosing Squirtle is just an arbitrary distribution because we are the protagonist and a lot of us loves Charizard's cock, but the game was obviously conceived to pick Bulbasaur.
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>>30781637
>One single part
The part where Lillie say you "ey, I want travel around this tropical paradise with you".
If GF really want implied a romantic interess when you pick the gurl, they would not have changed any dialogue
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>>30781843
Why? The romance is still implied in all the rest of the interactions with the girl, so regardless, they got it.
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>>30781870
I repeat myself, "If GF really want implied a romantic interess when you pick the gurl, they would not have changed any dialogue"
Just explain why GF changed that, why? Same dialogue hint same love, but GF took the trouble to changed that for some reason.
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>>30782072
There's no reason to repeat yourself. You're still wrong because you're assuming that scene was the only romantic interaction they had when actually they had multiple before and after it.
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>>30777836
but if you watched Origins Red picks the red pokemon because it's red and Green picks the blue pokemon because he claims to not be as simple as Red.
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>>30782214
I'm still waiting for you, anon. Why GF changed that if is the same love?
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>>30761054
completely agreed
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>>30783184
>using Origins as argument
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>>30783539
It's not the same love. Lesbian love and hetero love are similar, but they aren't the same, that's why that line is different. The rest of the game have the exact same dialogue with the same romantic interactions because both loves are similar enough to be the same in all the lines of the rest of the game.
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>>30761499
>that Sudowoodo walking like it ain't anybody's business
Holy shit.
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>>30783715
>It's not the same love. Lesbian love and hetero love are similar, but they aren't the same, that's why that line is different
>GF took the trouble to change a dialogue because hetero and homo love aren't the same

OK you lose, get out of this thread and kill yourself
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>>30784200
I see you ran out of arguments. Shouldn't have said anything about the female not being canon in the first place.
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>>30763093
Red's canon starter ever since the original games has been Charmander, just how much media has to blatantly state this for you bulbasaurcucks to understand this?
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>>30762412
You're speaking English, so his name is Blue, you fucking weaboo.
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>>30784271
>I see YOU ran out of arguments
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>>30784351
Charmanderfags are hilarious
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>>30769973
it's because she's the only kanto gym leader introduced in gen II, you dip
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>>30784836
>20 year old art still m-matters guise!!

Kek, stay mad, cuck.
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>>30784836
Charizard is (our) guy, he gets paired with Red all the time now it's just the way the world works f a m
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>>30773152
Even if I picked samurott for myself he fits cheren more
>>
why are you retards arguing over which MC is canon when you're arguing retarded headcanon bullshit? You're worse than maptists and timelinefags because they are arguing things that actually exist.

Neither is canon until one is specifically referenced in a later game you fucking bellends
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>>30787914
>I've got it! I'll just ignore the evidence!
I don't give a fuck about retcons because GameFreak can turn around tomorrow and say Red's canon starter is a Mr. Mime.

Considering we apparently have multiple timelines, the only one that matters in the original

>>30788448
He ain't my nigga
>>
The legend of thunder confirmed it long ago.

That was when kris (how's it spelled) was still alive.

I literally can't believe she was removed. The first female character in pokemon. My sister was so happy when Crystal came out. I'm sure she wasn't the only one.
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