Hardest league

>>30760159
>Kalos above anything
Neck yourself

>Alola
>easier than Kalos/Unova 4 pokemon babby shit
kek, kill yourself

Cynthia is boring.

>Smogon whore
No, I like her to TRY winning with her favorites instead

>>30760179
Not Op but dude aola league mons dont even have a full moveset. Anything they got is the better level curve.

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>>30760159
>kalos league being above any other

why

>>30760225
Yeah but at least some people lost to it on vp. I've never seen a single person say they lost to Diantha.

>>30760159
>Hoenn
>2nd
Only if you a complete retard. Shittiest league by a mile

>>30760179
>>30760241
Came here to post this

>>30760222
garchomp is the only smogon mon while her other 5 are now UU-NU shitmons, and she also loves her garchomp very much in bed, try again.

>>30760249
>Wtf losing to aola league
What are you 9 or retarded
>never seen a single person say they lost to Diantha
You need to be above 18 to post here

>>30760225
Honestly, having nothing but stab moves is much better than boosting to +6 and never attacking. If your not over leveled Alola is one of the more difficult leagues

>>30760249
>Yeah but at least some people lost to it on vp
You gotta be extra retarded to think that the aola league is challenging

>>30760159
>alola being the easiest
Actual, literal, medical definition of autism.

>>30760288
>wtf
You need to be above 18 to post here

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>>30760159
>Kalos over anything
>Alola last

>>30760159
>Johto and Kanto that high
I take it you're basing that off of the remake rematch teams? They're pathetic otherwise.

>>30760263
Hoenn as a whole is pretty disappointing, fuck Steven's rematch team though, his Skarmory and Claydol gave me a headache.

Losing to Diantha or the Kalos league is impossible.

>>30760302
Not the problem. problem is you switch into pokemon with type advantage for exemple a grass mon on Hala's Poliwrath. Fucker keeps spamming waterfall that does jack shit instead of having a move like poison jab or ice punch. The ai were fucking retarded. only after post game you get good battles

I found Alola league hard for no other reason than fucking Magnezone. I had nothing that could deal with it and it countered almost everything on my team.

>>30760159
Kalos<Aola<Hoenn<Johto<Unova<Kanto<Sinnoh

Fixed it for you Op you faggot

>>30760288
I'd say the same anon were you not here the first few weeks when everyone was saying they lost to the league.
Where were you then, underage.

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>>30760390
Steven's initial team is great. It fits his theme without having a single easily exploitable weakness, and all of the Pokémon he uses are pretty good.
His rematch team in ORAS on the other hand is fucking garbage.

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>>30760469
>KANTO 2ND
>UNOVA 3RD
this can only be bait

>>30760469
When was the last time you played through Kanto? That shit is Kalos-tier easy, and sure as fuck doesn't belong above Johto or Unova.

Why is Johto always so high on every list? Is it really that bad because on HG/SS I cleared the elite four with just a Forretress?

>>30760469
>Kanto 2nd
Nah senpai johto was way harder and switch unova with hoenn you faggot

Cynthia is overrated.

RBGY Kanto is still pretty hard while FRLG Kanto is easy as shit.

>>30760563
The HGSS rematch teams are pretty good. Their initial matches are piss easy, though.

>>30760558
>>30760570
Are you guys underage or completely retarded?? Johto can be swept by feraligtr alone and unova can be swept by a fucking kroko

>>30760627
Ah that explains it.

>>30760159
I dont agree with your list OP but sinnoh league especially in D/P is the hardest league in any pokemon game. people saying otherwise are just edgy underage contrarians

>>30760652
Literally every E4 can be swept by a single Pokemon, dumbass. Feraligatr sweeping anything is a joke unless you just spam items, in which case a Magikarp could have done the same thing.

>>30760469
That's still wrong
Sinnoh>Alola>Hoenn>Kanto>Johto>Unova>Kalos
Here

>>30760721
>unova this low
>aola 2nd
kill yourself

>>30760721
So many things wrong I dont even know where to start.

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>>30760516
My comment wasn't about the team setup but I agree, his Cradily and Armaldo were an iconic part of his team since they're the Gen III fossils. It was more about me being an idiot and immediately re-challenging the E4 for more XP and getting walled by Skarmory and Claydol who were 10 levels above my (then) team.

I was kinda hoping ORAS, or at the very least Steven, would give some love to Aggron. Or maybe give some NPC's, like the E4 and Champion, two or more teams with two or more candidates for mega evolution. So you fight a different mega every (other) run.

>>30760898
You asking way too much out of Oras lmao. They didnt even bother giving us gym rematches or at least up date them to emerald version.

>>30760225
Only 4/5 of Hala's and 3/5 of Olivia's Pokemon don't have a full moveset. The others use Pokemon with full movesets.

Alola it's hardly the lowest considering that their elite four use a team of 5 when XY and BW didn't.

Sinnoh > Alola > Johto > Hoenn > Unova > Kanto > Kalos

>>30760159
Post game Unova league is one of the hardest. Everyone is Cynthia tier.

When people are putting Unova that low are they not including N/Ghetsis?

Or just elite 4

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>>30760159
>Kanto
>Hard

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>>30760787
don't start then. If that anon isn't trolling it is his/shes opinion.

My easiest -Hardest are:
Kalos
FRLG Kanto
HGSS Johto
Johto
ORAS Hoenn
Hoenn
RBY Kanto
BW2 Unova
BW Unova
Sinoh

>>30760930
Not to mention Alola is the only league with Pokemon that have EVs. Those extra stats help, even with their questionable movesets.

>>30760225
Alola trainers have EV distributions and AI way above any gen 6 trainers so

>>30761119
>>30760930
Play aola/kalos with exp share off.
Kalos wins by a mile league wise.
Gym wise aola is much better cause of the boss battles

>>30761037
But its opinion is wrong so is yours btw.
Oras hoenn that high you mad son its kalos tier.

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>>30760217
>>30760576

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The only thing Cynthia really had that made her hard was her perfect IV'd Garchomp (which is still a competitive killing machine). Her team was pretty mediocre otherwise (even having a balanced team wasn't new since Blue's been running that shit since gen 1).

Just next give the next champ a Shell Smash Kommo-o on top of a balanced team and we'll be good.

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>>30761222
Oboy.

>>30761382
You retarded then all her mons were fucking beast especially that tanky ass spiritomb. Off all the champs she has the most competitive team of all. blue in comparison looks like a elite4 reject

>>30761165
>exp share makes the games easier
Stop this meme.

>>30761089
>Not to mention Alola is the only league with Pokemon that have EVs

This isn't even close to being remotely true.

I was going to say fuck Kalos being anywhere but the bottom but then I remembered that one XY run I actually wiped to Siebold while I had zero troubles with the league either of my SM runs so whatever

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>>30761462
Are you just pretending or are you legit retarded?

>>30761037
>his/shes

>>30761462
(You)

>>30761659
>>30761697
A game being difficult and a game being grindy are two different things.

>>30761737
he'srightyouknow.jpg

>He had exp share on

Alola league was challenging

Especially since Kukui was actually using a competitive technique

>>30761737
You dont have to grind with exp share off if you use your brain a bit more.
The whole thing is to give the npc a level advantage while you overcome it with strategy. if you just going to grind your way trough might as well use exp share.

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>>30761688
Yes, I know my English is so, so terrible. I did not screen the text before I posted. I really do not know how I am making it through life.

>>30761737
>He has to grind with EXP Share off

I laugh at you

>>30760159
Alright guys here is the official ranking
I will only consider : the remakes and latest game and emerald

Kalos<Hoenn(remake)<UnovaBw<Hoenn(Emerald)<UnovaBw2<Johto<Aola<Kanto<Sinnoh

>not playing with EXP Share on but avoiding all the boring optional fights that only have one team member and no moves

lmao

>>30761462
Stupid piece of shit

>>30760159
>sinnoh league
>begins with literal who who unironically uses route 1 shittier bugs
>next is am agatha reskin who uses a bunch of forgettable ground mons
>flint didn't even get a proper fire team until platinum (>b-but it was clever what they did in d/p!) and even still it was just an assortment of paper thin fire mons
>will reskin with more paper thin mons and a bronzong of all things, a mon you can literally catch in mt. coronet
>mary sue champion who has a terrible taste with mons like gastrodon, garchomp, lucario, roserade, a fucking flinchhaxing togekiss
I'll ignore the fact you put johto at 3 and alola last, and it's still really obvious you have terrible taste.

>>30762119
Its about which is the hardest league not about who got the bwst taste you autistic sperg

>>30762119
>Being this underage

>>30762205
okay, but still, 3/4ths of it are jokes (bertha is arguably difficult), and even though cynthia is 'hard, you can still steamroll 2/3rds of her team. garchomp an mitotic are the only threats

>>30762242
>being this autistic

>>30762119
nice reading comprehension, retard.

>>30762119
>Mary Sue champion
>Literally the MC grown up
>Never takes away plot relevance from the MC
>Always stands back and lets the MC be the hero
>Stays as a basic supporting character until the end
Do you think Mary Sue means "character I don't like"?

>Aola

>>30760159
t. Shitter who uses the exp share

>>30762380
>Forgetting about spiritomb
Dont act like you know your shit son.

>>30762440
>beautiful bombshell blonde who's super strong
>always has the solution or answer to every problem, shows up everywhere because why not lol
>super popular among everybody, nobody dislikes her
>has zero personality, nothing as a basis other than "lol she's hot and strong"
>is the champion because fuck you
>shows up in every game since because fuck you
She may not be a direct textbook Sue but she's definitely one.

>>30762482
Spiritomb is easy as shit, it hits like wet toilet paper and goes down in 3 hits instead of 1 or 2

>>30762715
mfw unovababbies still in damage control
i bet alola did this after gen 6
the triggering never ends

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>>30762119
Route 1 shitter bugs. How fucking retarded are you?

>>30761454
LOL at Spiritomb. It was slow as hell meaning you get the fist move plus it's stats weren't that great, just set up on it and sweep.

>>30760159
>Kalos above anything
>Alola that low

>>30761568
It's pretty close, he just mistyped a letter.

>>30762827
>the newfag doesn't know the proper term is unovabortion
I mean challenge mode gen 5 rematch is probably the hardest e4 in the series

but sinnohfetuses really need to get their shit straightened out regardless

>>30762715
>always has the solution or answer to every problem, shows up everywhere because why not lol
>super popular among everybody, nobody dislikes her
>has zero personality, nothing as a basis other than "lol she's hot and strong"
>is the champion because fuck you
This is literally every champion but Green, are you retarded?

>>30762715
>beautiful bombshell blonde who's super strong
This isn't a Mary Sue trait. It can be applied to almost any main character from the Pokemon series.
>always has the solution or answer to every problem, shows up everywhere because why not lol
So your argument is that, because she travels the world and follows her interests, she's a Mary Sue? Clearing minor obstacles so that you can progress the story isn't the trait of a MS and you're greatly exaggerating how much she does.
>super popular among everybody, nobody dislikes her
Nobody dislikes Dawn, Rowan, Barry, or any of the gym leaders. Are they Mary sues?
>has zero personality
No...did you even play the game? She's a woman who is very active in protecting her region and enjoys studying mythology, to the point where she can absolutely ruin her room with notes and shit from how engrossed she can get.
>is the champion because fuck you
??? what? are you actually complaining that a strong trainer who actively participates in the plot is the Champ? this isn't even an actual argument because it applies to every champion ever.
>shows up in every game
She doesn't show up in Kalos and only has a minor cameo in Alola.

Jesus fucking Christ, she isn't even my favorite champion and even I can tell how much bullshit you're spewing.

>>30762868
They're talking about DP where he uses Beautifly and Dustox.

>>30763031
No we are talking about general.

>>30762924
>muh unova challenge mode
never was a challenge

>>30762924
>but sinnohfetuses really need to get their shit straightened out regardless
I think sinnoh was garbage but doesnt change the fact it had the toughest champ. you just being a hater for the sake of it you faggot

>>30763098
???

>>30763064
If we're talking general then yes, he did indeed use Route 1 shitter bugs in the Sinnoh League.

>>30763130
>toughest champ
lol even fucking steven in ORAS was harder

most people when talking about her as the 'toughest champ' always just talk about that garchomp, and if they're a furfag, lucario. she has a pretty garbage team besides

>>30760159
>Johto
>Kanto
>Kalos
>>hard
If you seriously think Kanto and Johto's leagues are hard then you must be a fucking autist.

I literally solo'd Cynthia with Infernape.

>>30763321
Kalos?
Nigga can you even read his shit?

I didn't play Platinum, but I literally solo'd the entire Sinnoh league with an Infernape I called "Gurren-Lagann". It was a bit over-leved, though.

>>30760159
Why the fuck is hoenn so fucking high.
You gotta be shitting me.
Also kalos should be last an aola much higher.

>>30763335
>>30763372
I solo'd unova , kanto, kalos with my fire starter as well. pokemon weak as fuck.
Only mono run I had difficulty with is johto because the starters there are fucking shit.

>>30763372
That's what happens when you solo games. Every league can be solo'd with your starter (except for maybe Alola).
>>30763445
Bullshit, Feraligatr and Typhlosion both dumpster the game in GSC.

>>30760159
The champs seem easy because they never switch strategicly.

>>30760159
>artificially inflating the levels of the elite four to pad game length counts as difficulty

Sinnoh's league was garbage.

>>30763477
>Except for maybe Alola
Literally the only game I went on a solo run cause I was disgusted about every other pokemon.

>>30763012
>This isn't a Mary Sue trait. It can be applied to almost any main character from the Pokemon series.
What is Leaf, Lyra, May, Dawn, Hilda...
>follows her interests
Steven followed his interests by gathering stones like an autist. Alder wandered the region because he's a bored old man. Even fucking Diantha who is as bland as they fucking come had more character as an actress.

Cynthia is just everywhere from Alola to Unova to that Ruins of Alph because GF wants to force her down your throat until you like her. She even goes to the Distortion World and does fuck all because she had to be around for an important event, but not do anything

>nobody dislikes dawn, rohan, barry
I mean, yeah, but this combines with all the other points

>did you even play the game
I did, and all I got was that all those old fucks in that stupid fog town loved her because reasons. That 'love of mythology' is as downplayed as it gets, it's just a plot device to put her into important locations at important times.

>are you complaining
there's zero indication she's a champ, it barely makes sense that she's the champ, and it doesn't make sense that the champ would let some kid handle a giant threat in giratina and cyrus. she's just hamfisted into the role. and fuck off, she barely plays a part in the plot except to give you magic potions for psyducks

>doesn't show up in kalos
actually did forget this, barely remember anything from gen 6 in general.

>i can tell you're bullshitting
and i can tell you're autistic

>>30763321
>17 y/o tries to use buzzwords appropriately

what is "autist" about rating leagues' difficulty? Honestly, what the fuck is this new 4chan generation when they barely have any competency using even the most basic buzzwords.

>>30761568
>>30762905
This is a fact, retards. Before gen VII, no trainers in the story had any EVs, ever. The best they could do was random natures and max IVs. Hell, they couldn't even have set abilities before HGSS. It was always ability one until then.

>>30763537
With your starter? Or with something that wasn't shit?

>>30763537
Incineroar run is cheat mode lol

>>30762924
>mfw she projects hard on me
comedy gold friendbud
enjoy your lilligant solos

>>30763556
>>30763579
I managed to do it with primarina alone but the thing is once I reached the league I was lvl 80 something

>>30763579
Because he can one-shot almost every trial other than Lana's.

>>30763610
>sleep powder
>quiver dance
>petal dance spam
>gg ez

The only thing that almost kills me if it wasn't for Giga Drain was Ghetsis.

>>30763631
Maybe if you overlevel like a fucking clown. Wishiwashi alone should have slapped the shit out of anyone doing an Incineroar run but I know that I had more trouble with Salazzle because it literally would not stop using fucking Toxic and shit

>>30763674
>overlevel like a fucking clown
You really cant avoid this when doing a solo run except if you skip battles

Kalos>Alola>Unova>Johto>Hoenn>Kanto>Sinnoh

Kalos is the literal best. Nostaligatards need not apply.

>>30761165
I did

Hawlucha swept Diantha and none of the Kalos E4 were that challenging

Alola wasnt that difficult but at least Kukui's team was solid

>>30763625
how'd you get past lurantis and vikavolt?

>>30763772
Encore her into doing x-scissor that did jack shit to me and spammed her off after same shit for vikavolt with bug bite.
Their allies didnt do jack to me lol

>>30763894
how did you get them to use x-scissor/bug bite, anon, and how'd you outspeed the lurantis to encore it? usually they just spam spark or solar blade, depending

>>30763942
They both fucking slow. I dunno the ai in this game kept doing some retarded things. Especially the end villain where she could have defeated me twice in the same fight but chose not to. Not sure if the ai is programmed to anticipate switch ins but it was really weird.

>>30763540
She's the one who guides you through the distortion world and explains the plot events so you have some clue as to what's going on. It IS a plot device, but even that isn't an example of her being a Mary Sue. You'd understand if you knew anything about characters. Also, is Red a Gary Stu because he shows up everywhere? Having popular, fan favorite characters show up does not make them Mary Sues, that's fucking retarded.

And Mary Sues steal attention away from the main plot, so you're contradicting yourself completely. Just fucking stop with these terrible arguments

>>30760753
Unova is the second easiest league by a mile. What were they thinking with those four types, it can literally be swept by just 1-2 Pokémon. And that's not even mentioning that it started the shitty trend of the Elite Four not using a full team anymore.

>>30760159
>Unova
The casualisation started right there.

>>30764038
Wow, so she just has all the answers to everything and shows up at important scenes to dump it on me, while also coincidentally being the champion along with being smart and beautiful and everything? And you're telling me this isn't a writer insert? Do you know what a Sue is?

>red
nice false equivalence fucko, red doesn't constantly show up at tons of important events to show constantly how super handsome and strong he is. he shows up at endgame challenges because he's a powerful trainer, there's nothing more to the character and it's kept simple. cynthia allegedly has all this shit surrounding her for no other reason than to hamfist her into a bunch of stuff.

>contradicting yourself
you seem to have a lot of opinions on what a sue has to do to make itself a sue. it's just a self insert or an overly important character that's around so the author can feel like they're a super powerful character in this fantastic story instead of being a bumfuck who's barely paid for his/her shitty work. sues can work but they need to be actually somewhat decent characters to start with, cynthia isn't and the entire final champion battle of sinnoh felt as tacky as it was easy, yet retards like you tout as it as one of the best things ever

kill yourself, seriously

>>30760159
Sinnoh>Johto>Hoenn>Alola>Kanto>Unova>kalos

>Kanto
>Ice, Fighting, Ghost, Dragon
>Use mostly level 50-60 mons.
>5 pokemon each
>No EVs
>Champion uses Pokemon in the level 60-70 range. Uses multi-types but leans towards Psychic and Flying. Uses 6.

>Johto
>Psychic, Poison, Fighting and Dark
>Pokemon all in the level 40-50 range.
>5 pokemon each.
>No EVs
>Champion's pokemon are in the level 40-50 range. Monotyped like a retard. Three of the same damn pokemon. Uses 6.

>Hoenn
>Dark, Ghost, Ice and Dragon
>Use pokemon mostly in the level 40-50 range, a few above.
>5 pokemon each
>No EVs
>Champion's pokemon are in the level 50-60 range.Either Water or Steel, monotyped either way. Uses 6.

>Sinnoh
>Bug, Ground, Fire (lol), Psychic
>Use pokemon in the 50-60 level range, a few above.
>5 pokemon each.
>Champion's pokemon are in the level 60-70 range. Uses various types, slightly favours Ground. Uses 6.

>Unova
>Ghost, Fighting, Dark, Psychic
>Use Pokemon in the 40-50 range mostly.
>4 pokemon each. 5 if you're in BW2 and in Challenge Mode.
>No EVs
>Two possible champions again. Alder uses Pokemon in the level 70-80 range, Iris uses Pokemon in level 50-60 range. Alder uses various types, favouring Bug. Iris monotypes Dragon. Both use 6.

>Kalos
>Fire, Water, Steel, Dragon
>Use pokemon in the level 60-70 range.
>4 Pokemon each.
>No EVs
>Champion uses pokemon in the 60-70 range. Various types, favouring Rock and/or Dragons. Uses 6.

>Alola
>Fighting, Ground, Ghost, Flying
>Use Pokemon in the level 50-60 range.
>5 Pokemon each.
>EVs
>'Champion' uses Pokemon in the level 50-60 range, excellent varied type distribution. Uses 6.