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Why is it so addicting?

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Why is it so addicting?
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>>30730636
It isn't.
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>>30730650
For you.
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>>30730636
Payoff is great, transitions are fast, you have new OP toys that make cruising through it significantly less painful, and the various recurring characters are nice to see.
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>>30730704
>new OP toys
Like what?
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>>30730636
It makes you feel like you have a chance, engages you greatly and then pulls underhanded pre-prepared bullshit to make you lose.

Its like gambling, but instead of money its time and energy.
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After getting my 50 stamps I don't really see the point in continuing
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>>30730636
it would be addicting if it wasn't a 15 years old feature, most sets barely even changed from last gen
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Until you reach the PAR, Confuse, Flinch bullshit
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>>30730742
tapus, UBs, z moves, new greninja form, etc
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>>30730636
Because it starts hardcore from the start instead of having to slog through shitty unevolved teams first.
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>>30730900
Don't you have ash ninja from the start
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>X used Stockpile!
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>>30731000
FUCK WALREIN
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>>30731000
>implying walrein even gets a turn when 2/3 of my team is electric
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I just got enough BP for a Mega Stone. Which one will make grinding for more BP the easiest so I can get them all?
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>>30731179
Salamencite. Or Metagronite.
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>>30731179
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>>30731102
>>30731000
I run bulky fighting types that can set up JUST to say "No fuck YOU, Walrein".
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>>30731194
Yeah I was thinking Salamencite. I didnt play much OR but I heard MegaMence is broken
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For whatever reason I feel more enticed to play it than I did the maison
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>>30730636
>tfw trying to get 50 in super singles with no UBs, tapus, silvally, or old mons

I don't know why I'm doing this ot myself.
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>>30731224
Gets interesting faster, the environment looks good, has old characters that you can collect and fight, etc. Has a lot more to do than Maison. I still miss battle factory, though.
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>>30731236
Use Pyukumukku
Use a wallbreaker. and/or a bulky pokemon that can set up.

There! You won anon.
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I fucking love multi-battling with Colress and Guzma
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>>30731236
What's your record so far? Honestly anything with just aslowla mons would be impressive.
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>>30731236
are you at least trying trick room teams?things like crabominable, wishiwashi, incineroar and such benefit greatly
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>>30731236
Mimikyu my dude
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>>30730669
Which is why I (not you) posted, dipshit. Next time understand what's having an opinion.
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>>30731236
>Now try without UBs, Megas, Tapus, Toxapex, Mimikyu or Minior. Get on my level.
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>>30731259
37 with A-Persian, Golisopod and Turtonator.

I'm trying a set that should be working better with A-Persian, Primarina and A-Marowak, but I keep making misplays.

Gonna try Mimikyu, Toxapex and Minior at some point.
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>>30731478
Minior wrecks face, definitely go with it. Acrobatics, stone edge, EQ, shell smash with white herb always.
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>>30731194
What about Garchompite if I run Mimikyu/Something Bulky/Garchomp?
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>>30731224

The daily max streak awards and occassional character people give a duck about helps.
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>>30731525
>What about Garchompite-
no
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I fucking hate ice types in these facilities

Between freeze hax, sheer cold hax, crit hax, and blizzard never missing and hitting both your pokemon there's the highest potential for bullshit

I remember facing Brycen in PWT and my Registeel was frozen for 10+ turns, and in the Battle Tree I got hit with a Blizzard in doubles and both my mons got frozen at the same time
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>>30731525
Garchompite is the only mega stone I can think of that makes a pokemon worse than the base form. Just stick to the two mentioned unless you REALLY don't want to pick up a Salamence or Metagross.
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I just want to be able to use my in game team on Battle Tree to have fun with them without EV training and breeding and all that fun bullshit

Guess not
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>>30731559
>mfw Mega Scizor
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>>30731590
Glad they included other content to extend playability for less competitive players huh :^)))) best postgame since x and y
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>>30731574
Ah, alright, so, just running Reg Garchomp is fine with me

Just I invested time to train up a rough skin gibble and whatnot, might just grab a rocky helmet for him when I get a chance to buy it
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>>30731559
I had a +5 atk pokemon get killed because the opponent had a focus sash and sheer cold.
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>>30731636
Use the BP for the mega stone on a life orb for garchomp, that'll help a lot.
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>>30731639

Same anon from before

I was grabbing a Celesteela for my pokedex, and turns out someone passed on a pretty good Celesteela to me, and it seems pretty bulky

Would Celesteela be a good compliment to Mimikyu/Garchomp?
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>>30731699

You get a free life orb in resolution cave.
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>>30731703
Yes, definitely. It's a great switch-in to dragon, fairy and ice type moves for Garchomp, while also being a great switch in for poison, steel, etc. types for Mimikyu. Very strong.
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What's a good Mega Salamence set for the Battle Tree
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>>30731699
You get a free Life orb from the Resolution Cave where you find Guzzlord, in one of the paths, it mimics the Cave from XY with Zygarde

I use Life orb on my Mimikyu, when I tested the Battle tree with Mimikyu, Togekiss (Who I EV trained wrong and gave them speed instead of Spdef) and Mudsdale (Not even a good one, just from my main story team)

I took out Regular singles in one go, and got to around 9 wins in SS's
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>>30731733
Oh, damn, I didn't know that. I just left the UB quest after getting the 1st Xurkitree, might have to get back to that soon, I've been so caught up in this battle tree stuff.
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>>30730842
>he's not going for the starf berry
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>>30731401
Then why did you post in the first place? OP's opinion is that it is addictive, you fucking contrarian faggot.
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>>30731782

I haven't caught any UBs yet and got it.

The free life orb helps so much with early battle tree until you can get a proper team with power items together.

Life orb Mimikyu carried my ass pretty hard.
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>>30731215
>Weezing used Stockpile!
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>>30731833
What's the deal with Mimikyu in battle tree? Is it the typing? The free swords dance? The idiot AI using status moves on it? Or what?
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>>30731740
What sort of moves would you run with Celesteela?
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>>30731917
>The idiot AI using status moves on it?
Disguise doesn't prevent status moves.
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>>30730636
>steelix used curse
>ITS STATS WONT GO HIGHER
>steelix used rest

IT MAY HAVE TAKING AROUND 30 MINUTES BUT FUCK YOU BITCH I KILLED YOUR DUMB ASS WITH LEECH SEED WHIMSCOTT
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>>30731923
The generic is:
Heavy slam
Leech Seed
Substitute
Flamethrower/Earthquake

Though if you wanted to go full meme, an autotomize special attacker would work, too.
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POST YOUR BATTLE TREE TEAMS

RATE OTHER BATTLE TREE TEAMS
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>>30731917

Bit of everything.

The AI doesn't adjust tactics to deal with disguise.

I've had them use Z-moves on the disguise only for them to do 0 damage.

You can get a guaranteed SD off and more if the ai wants to do stupid shit. That plus it's decent typing means there isn't much you can't deal with.
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>>30731964
>He knows the secret winning tech
Whimsicott +2 other mon to counter the pokemon who manage to slip away from his bullshit = Victory.

I had a 150 winning streak back in oras with Whisimcott bullshit.
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>>30731949
Oh, sorry. Thought it worked like Shields Down, haven't fought any Mimikyus.
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>>30731917
Free swords Dance
Substitute
AI being silly

Slap a Life orb on a jolly Mimikyu, EV spread that for Attack and Speed. Will outspeed most things you find, thankfully. Run Shadow Claw, Play rough, SD, Leech Life

Give him some mons that are good back ups like a ground type to take care of opposing Steel types, and you're good to go

Only thing that screws Mimikyu over is focus sashed pokes on the opposing team and other weird strats
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>>30732009
do you run Jolly or Adamant?
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>>30731510
Would you recommend pure physical over mixed?

I'm going naive myself; acrobatics, power gem, earthquake shell smash
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>Got to 20 wins in Super Singles before losing.
>Started again with the same team
>Round 1: Nearly Wipe
>Round 2: Wipe
...what?
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>>30732009
I see, nice. I'll pick one up, then.
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>>30732043
Pure physical, for sure. Are you OHKOing stuff with Power Gem? If not, switch to stone edge. I'm assuming you're 252 ATK/252 Speed or HP, right?
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>>30732040
Jolly

You get the extra attack from Swords dance and the life orb - at that point, I feel the extra speed will help it move a bit quicker than some of the more threatening types
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>>30732004
any match where I can get off two cotton guards and put a leech seed against pokes with only physical moves make me happy
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>>30730636
>mfw injected hackmons and got all 3 stamps in a few hours
>mfw complete trainer passport
>mfw nothing else to do
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How will mega lopunny hold up in Battle Tree once we get bank? Never played ORAS, it'll be my first time using it but I heard it was really broken. Is that right?
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>>30731988
Wishiwashi @Leftovers
Mimikyu @Life Orb
Buzzswole @Assault Vest
Wishiwashi softens them up a bit and then U-Turns, and then Mimikyu can set up and kill with Shadow Sneak. Buzzswole is for if I need raw bulk and power.
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>>30730878
Clean body, Own tempo, Inner Focus
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>>30732148
What kind of hackmons? Like Sturdy Shedinja? Anon if you're the kind of person to 100% a game surely you should realize you'll get no satisfaction from cheating
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>>30732148
Turn on wifi.
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GET WEADY, DA BATTLE TWEE.
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>>30732171
Moves pls
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>>30732205
i miss PHF
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>>30730636
Maybe cause it's an actual real jump in challenge like other battle facilities in previous games but it isn't filled with pointless gimmicks like the Battle Frontier and it's serviceable enough that you can grind out enough points for all your competitive items along with giving you some fanservice by having old returning characters like with the PWT.

>>30731236
Mimikyu is good for EZ wins.
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>>30732093
Nah i'm planning on running 252 Atk/148 SpA/108 Spe

I've seen this way recommended a lot by people; physical attacker I've also seen recommended by others but the reason people have been telling me to go for mixed is to help against bulkier pokemon such as skarmory
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>>30732208
WW was my ingame so he has shit nature and EV's but he does his job.
-Aqua Tail
-Ice Beam
-Earthquake
-U-Turn

Mimikyu is max Attack and Speed. Currently training a 6 IV Jolly but this one does well.
-Play Rough
-Shadow Claw
-Shadow Sneak
-Sword Dance

Buzzwole is max speed and attack. Max Att IV
-Superpower
-Leech Life
-Ice Punch
-Posion Jab (for fairies)
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Received a Timid Celesteela through GTS, how is Special Celesteela? Good sets?
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Just experienced the infamous battle facility hax at battle 32 in Super Singles.

>Lead with Celesteela
>Opponent leads with Electivire
>Decide to risk it and Earthquake
>"Electivire used Wild Charge!"
>OHKO's Celesteela
>No biggie got Mega Venusaur, it's super bulky and even if it runs Ice Punch I've got Thick Fat
>Send it in
>"Electivire used Ice Punch!"
>"Venusaur got frozen solid!"
>Spends the next 4 turns being frozen while I try to Synthesise my health back
>It never thaws out
>MFW my last mon is Azumarril and Electivire outspeeds it

In case anyone wonders I got my Venusaur through with PKSM from my Y game.
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>>30732321
Autotomize
Flash Cannon
Giga Drain
Air Slash

As you can see it's kind of lacking in special movepool
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>>30732347
>cheat
>still can't win
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>>30732193
Spore Sheer Cold Mega Pigeon paired with Mat Block Greninja, plus Extremespeed Mega Croissant. And I like getting 100%, just when it isn't obviously rigged.

>>30732201
Have done, but most of my stuff is on lockdown 'til January. The Alola Dex is so small and garbage.
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>>30732347
>In case anyone wonders I got my Venusaur by cheating
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>>30732376
To be fair, he cheated in a pretty shitty pokemon compared to the other megas he has at his disposal.
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>>30732358
Shiet.

Should I just run a Physical set anyways?
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>>30730951
i think he ment new to gen 7.
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>tfw I bought moon just to have a second version so I can play with myself through multis.
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>>30732433
>Autotomize
>Heavy Slam
>Earthquake
>Stone Edge

Stone Edge is pretty risky but has paid off for me so far.
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>>30731988
Nothing too surprising here, but it got me to 50. It's a bit to vulnerable to electric so expect a lot of rotoms as you move up. So long as you know when to suspect an ice attack it works pretty well to lead with mence, and you can sometimes just toxistall the AI by switching out of earthquakes and then back to toxipek

adamant megamence
double-edge
dragon dance
earthquake
roost

bold toxipek
haze
recover
toxic
scald

careful celesteela
heavy slam
leech seed
flamethrower
protect
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>>30732358
>lacking

No, it's not. It has just enough coverage to get something out of a specially attacking set.

Flash
Giga
Air
Hidden Power
Flamethrower
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>>30730900
i don't understand how people are fine with using Legendaries in the Battle Tree
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>>30732553
Because 40+ uses legendaries against you in the Battle Tree.
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Y5YW - WWWW - WWW2 - TEE7

God damn, all that delicious hax.
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>>30732553
Because people want to win. Quit limiting yourself because you think its "honorable".
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>>30732614
Or at 10 if you get something like Anabel with Raikou or Latios.
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Got this like 30 mins ago
My team was mimikyu, azumarill and megamence
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>>30732719
Did you cheat or use non huge power Azu?
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>TFW Scarfed outrage garchomp wipes me hard

Fuck man, you don't realize how ridiculous choice scarf is until someone uses it against you.
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I got 50 wins easy with Mimikyu, Lele and Garchomp
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>>30732004
>>30731964
what's the deal with whimsicott?
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>>30732739
Huge power lol, didn't really get to be user though? Mimikyu and megamence was plenty
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>>30732719
I'm only missing two more stamps.

Lvl5 Picture thing and Super Multi

>tfw Multis still can't be done over wi-fi
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>>30732798
Rip phone autocorrect
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>>30732798
Wait, my bad. For a second I thought huge power was the HA.
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>>30730636
It isn't
>Second match is a fucking recycle sitrus berry snorlax
THRILLING. NOW I GET TO EXPERIENCE STALL FAGGOTRY IN GAME!
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>>30732739
huge power isn't a hidden ability if that's what you mean
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>>30731988
Decidueye@leftovers
Impish, 252hp 252def
Spirit shackle
Leaf blade
U-turn
Roost

Nihilego@life orb
Timid, 252spa 252speed
Power gem
Sludge wave
Grass knot
Dazzling gleam

Greninja@waterium-z
Naive, 252 spa 252 speed
Water shuriken
Surf
Dark pulse
Ice beam

Not really a good team but I wanted to use new monsters and I had just arrived at the tree.
Decidueye was my starter, I soft resetted for a decent nature.
While I still wonder how careful could be, it actually did a decent job at slow u-turning and eating earthquakes and paralyses. The other guys are just there to score some quick kill and activate their buffs.
I hate 80% accuracy and nihilego is a wonderful, but without hidden power you are always going to be walled by something.
I lost around 65, now I was trying a team around bulu but I keep forgetting about poison jabs.

>>30732171
Nice I want to try WW
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Is Kangaskhan-Mega allowed?
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Just unlocked super doubles after stalling Blue's Gyrados for 53 fucking turns with Toxapex
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>>30732861
Yep, it got nerfed though. No longer 50% of the original, now 20% I think.
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>>30731988
The team I'm preparing right now

>Jolly SD Mimikyu
>Jolly M-Gross
>Modest Automotize meme Celesteela

I've been running Lele instead of Mimikyu but I'm tired of being fucked by Hypnosis Gengar
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>>30732831
If you truly hate stall I feel like the least you could do is have a taunt user
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>TFW finally replacing Pheromosa on my team

Thank fucking goodness, how can anyone use this? It can't safely switch into anything, the only way to use it is when something else dies, and even then usually the other member (Nihilego in my case) covers the enemy type better. No wonder that one dude said it was honeypot tier, is it just a revenge killer and nothing more?
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>>30731988
I just tweaked my team a tiny bit and this is what I got

Tapu Koko @ Life Orb
Timid 252Spa/4SpD/252Spe
Thunderbolt
Grass Knot
Dazzling Gleam
U-Turn

Celesteela @ Leftovers
Adamant 84HP/252Atk/174Spe
Automize
Heavy Slam
EQ
Seed Bomb

Bewear @ Assault Vest
Adamant 252HP/252Atk/4SpD
Return
Superpower
Ice Punch
EQ

I just put the Life Orb on Koko since the extra 30% squeaks out extra kills it couldn't otherwise. I also switched out Hammer Arm for Superpower on Bewear because I've been screwed over by Hammer Arm's 90% accuracy one too many times.
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>>30732984
Yes, I feel she can be good only in 6vs6
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any point having a minior and mimikyu on the same battle tree team?

>tfw just want to use my favourite new pokemon but have no idea if they work with each other
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>>30732902
How is Mimikyu supposed to help? Can it outspeed and 1HitKO Gengar? Hypnosis can be used through Disguise.
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>>30731988
Scizor has Scizorite, Slowbro has Rocky Helmet and Sylveon has Leftovers. Not really optimal, but it handles a really large chunk of the battles I'm in.
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>>30732984
Get something slow/bulky with u-turn/volt switch so it tanks the hit and puts stuff in safely.
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>>30733064
Shadow Sneak
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>>30733046
Yeah, I can see how it'd be good there. Lots of opportunities to come in after something dies/slow U-turn users, plus people have to set shit up and you can punish them by switching into it and smashing their shit in.
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>>30733097
>TFW Buzzwole doesn't get U-turn

Feels un-swole man
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Oranguru @ Lum Berry
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 2 Spe
- Trick Room
- Protect
- Psychic
- Instruct

Primarina @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Scald
- Moonblast
- Psychic
- Protect

Marowak-Alola @ Thick Club
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Flare Blitz
- Shadow Bone
- Bonemerang
- Protect

Exeggutor-Alola @ Dragonium Z
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Giga Drain
- Flamethrower
- Trick Room

This is the doubles team I used to get to 50 pretty easy. Quite simple, FWG core and the best Trick Room setter available who's really cool with Instruct. I lead with Primarina and Oranguru, Primarina usually sweeps teams by itself when it's moving twice in one turn. I got to battle 59 but lost due to some really bad misplays, it wasn't even bullshit I just super fucked up.

I'm thinking of Calm Mind Mega Slowbro+Marowak-A+something else for singles, but I don't know what. Something that can handle everything that can Toxic Slowbro, probably.
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>>30731000
PPP
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>>30733140
>Skeeter too swole to run from a fight.
Togedemaru or Mandibuzz could be decent options though.
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>tfw all your favorites that you wanna use are weak to fire
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>>30732172
because you can have all of these things on the same pokemon
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Fuck this game I just struggled myself to death against a Curse+Rest Steelix
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>>30731223
It saved my ass in so many matches it isn't even funny. Fucker simply mega evolves, dragon dances then proceeds to rain death.
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>>30733400
Gotta be prepared for a lot of threats.
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>>30733400
The nice thing about leech seed is that if pretty much guarantees a win against those sorts of fights, but just having a decent special attacker would probably be enough
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>>30731988

Top Lele@Psychium Z
Psychic
Taunt
Moonblast
Thunderbolt

Tsareena@Expert Belt
High Jump Miss
Trop Kick
U-Turn
Play Rough

Alolan-Muk@Muscle Band
Gunk Shot
Knock Off
Taunt
Shadow Sneak

Psychic Surge + Psychium-Z is fucking amazing
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>TFW finally find and recruit a person that has a sand stream mon
>Multi battles are reduced to slideshows

Anyone else know this feeling?
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>Can change battle music
>Changing it to Legendary Pokemon theme, Elite Four theme or kahuna theme

Even though it's a bit frustrating, I also like how it doesn't matter when you start, it always starters moderately hard rather than too easy just to let you win a few battles like other gens. It still has a cheating ass CPU though, but I guess a Maison like place can't go without one.
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>>30730636
I'm disappointed to see this trash back in the game. Chaining battles with random events means it will eventually pull bullshit like quick claw OHKO moves or Bright Powder luck. I did the 50 super singles once on Y, and I'm never touching it again. I considered it for a moment to get an Ampharosite, but that one's not even in there. Probably locked away until the sequel, like the tutor moves.
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>>30735310
Disable animations if it's that bad.
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>>30735316
>Listening to special battle music over and over

It loses its appeal fast, anon. Having the regular theme be the badass E4 theme or Guzma's theme wears them out super fast and makes fighting them again lame.
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>>30733062
I second this question

I doubt it, but would be nice
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>>30732148
>cheat to win
>win fast
>now nothing to do

hurrrrr. maybe don't cheat then faggot?
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>>30733414
jolly or adament?
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>>30735366
>He didn't get all 5 trophies in the maison

Not being able to do all the Tower/Maison/Tree should be a bannable offense.
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>>30735669
No I didn't get all 5. One was bad enough to have to rematch Wally. Can't believe they make you do 3 this time for the stamps.
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>20 battles in
>sash endevour qick attack sceptile
>sheer cold walrein
>100% hypnosis anything

I don't know why I even bother.
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>>30731988
Xurkitree@Electrium
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Grass Knot
-Volt Switch

Gyarados@Gyaradosite
-Waterfall
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance

Mimikyu@Lum Berry
-Shadow Sneak
-Play Rough
-Leech Life
-Swords Dance

Pretty standard stuff, Timid/Jolly sets with basic 252/252/4 set ups. Currently at round 40.
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>>30735779
>F.E.A.R Sceptile.
Wicked
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Is it better for me to run Porygon 2 with Eviolite or Porygon Z with Normalium for Z-Conversion

He'll go alongside my aegislash and garchomp
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>>30736466
Z-conversion, it wrecks shit hard with adaptability tri-attack and boltbeam
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>>30730636
It's the same shit as Battle Maison, both are trash
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>>30736510
I assume that's t-bolt and psybeam
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>>30736566
Boltbeam is Thunderbolt and Ice Beam.
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>>30736599
>>30736599
Is porygon z really tanky enough to survive a hit to spend time using z conversion?

he's not exactly fast either
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>>30731988
Porygon2 @Eviolite
Minior or Mimikyu @White Herb or Life Orb
M-Scizor.
Porygon2 Toxic stalls everything it can and BoltBeams the rest.
Scizor uses SD first turn and can usually take out whatever Porygon2 couldn't.
Minior/Mimikyu sweep up what somehow remains.
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Just tried it my first time.

Made it to Red without much effort. Mimigma was my lead.
Snorlax fainted, Charizard fainted.

Lapras used Thunder against Mimikyu and of course paralysed me, then it used Confuse Ray. I wasn't able to attack once.

Lapras also had Ice Shard.

I had Garchomp and Milotic left.
gg
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>>30736697
Porygon-Z will outspeed most things, use Z-conversion and then get that 50% defense boost, so it'll always be able to tank anything. Even if it doesn't, it has decent bulk and normal is a pretty safe defensive type.
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>>30736904
can't help but feel like porygon-2 is still just better because it walls harder than almost anything
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>>30731988
Focus sash jolly kartana
psycho cut
leaf blade
sacred sword
smart strike
scarf timid xurk
thunderbolt
signal beam
energy ball
dazzling gleam
timid terrain extender tapu lele
psychic
shadow ball
thunderbolt
moonblast
Kartana fucking carries in the tree
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>>30731129
Absolutely this. Bastard doesn't stand a chance with my doubles Xurk + Tapu Koko lead.
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>>30731988
Alolan marowak
Minior
Celesteela
Porygon z move
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>>30736924
Why not both?
Add in Mimikyu for "Fuck you, Fighting type" coverage.
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>>30731000
>>30731102
>Their first pokemon aint Roach Lady of Balance

LOL
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>>30737167
I lead with MegaMence
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>>30732379
Nice 'accomplishment', friendo. The point is to beat the cheating bullshit. Even though most of it is just RNGesus having a giggle at your expense.
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How do you guys feel about specs ash-frog?
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>Swords Dance
>Swords Dance
>Shadow Sneak
>Shadow Sneak
>Shadow Sneak

This shit is too easy
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>>30732004
I do sweep via bullshit kukui but what do you run on your bullshitter?
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>Watching Cynthia's Milotic PP stall the enemy's Vaporeon because she doesn't know how to switch.
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>>30732836
Why run greninja with waterium z? Just curious
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>>30731988
Porygon-Z@Normalium Z
Shadow Ball
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Conversion

Garchomp@Life Orb
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang
Swords Dance

Toxapex@Black Sludge
Scald
Toxic
Haze
Recover

Porygon sweeps everything and Garchomp is there for secondary sweeping. Toxapex is the last stand stall against whatever was able to take out the first two. I'm thinking of switching to m-salamence
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Ok my team so far is el classico Life Orb Garchomp and Meta Mistress Toxapex, but I'm kind of flip flopping on that third slot.

I've played around with Scarf Lele, which is pretty baller, but I'm wondering if Koko would be better. Opinions?
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>>30739068
To elaborate, Lele's psychic terrain has fucked over Toxapex at least once by boosting opponent's psychic attacks.
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>>30739328
Koko probably won't be much better than Lele. It makes your team pretty weak to ground and it will boost electric attacks against Toxapex.
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I just got 3-0'd by a Walrein with Sheer Cold and Quick Claw.
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>>30737167
>using a fighting-type whose fighting-type moves can miss in the hax tower

for what purpose
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>>30731988
Snow Warning A-Ninetales@Light Clay
Timid 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 Def
Aurora Veil
Blizzard
Moonblast
Encore

Mimikyu@Life Orb
Adamant 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def
Swords Dance

Inner Focus Crobat@Flyinium-Z
Adamant 252 Spe / 252 Atk / 4 Hp(?)
Brave Bird
Cross Poison
Leech Life
Haze

EZ runs for the most part, but I got swept at 38 by scarfed Aerodactyl spamming stone miss and not missing once
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>>30731000
>Tfw my lead is koko and raichu
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What's a good pokemon to take care of fire types? A lot of water types this gen seem to be pretty slow.
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>>30740176
Garchomp, Ash-Greninja, Mega-Gyarados
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Do i get a ribbon for beating the battle tree like in the battle maison
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>>30730878
I always carry a Whimsicot with Safeguard in Doubles.
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>>30740310
Yes.

I wish ribbons didn't stay on Pokemon, there was just a ribbon case that you could transfer up.
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Aim for the starf berry, only then will you achieve 100% completion in S/M.
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>>30740477
I need my go-to doubles team for that.
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OP is a masochist
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>>30740467
Wow, that would be a nice use for game sync.
It would also save me hours of grinding every ribbon on my shinies.
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>>30740530
>Buy every single battle item and mega stone
>Buy multiples of certain battle items for convenience on the mons that are currently using them
>Buy 2 sets of power items just in case I'm training two mons with the same stat spread
>Still have 900+ BP
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>>30738809
>Watching it stall a Slowbro.
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>>30732646

Yeah, one thing is honor vs. a human, so you setup rules to play even.

Another thing is to be honorable vs. certain bosses and shit, or games where it's at least 90% skill

AND ANOTHER thing is fighting bulshit cheating para-confuse-missed attacks-hack A.I. where luck plays a big part and if you lose, there goes an hour or two of your time.
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>>30740530
>It would also save me hours of grinding every ribbon on my shinies.

I always just inject a Pokemon with all the ribbons I've earned on my own and use it as a sort of poster board. I edit it as I go along.
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>>30731988
Singles:
Ass Vest Golisopod
MegaMence
Life Orb Kartana

Doubles:
Lightningrod Marowak
Z-stone Gyarados
Yache Berry Chompy
Life Orb Topu Keko

Already beat Red, but I'm still clawing through Super Doubles.
Not sure who I'll use for Multi, and I haven't even scouted anyone good.
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Timid or Modest for a Porygon-Z? I was going to go Modest for the power, but I'm not sure if it Timid is needed to outspeed anything crucial in the Tree.
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>>30740957
Don't use Cynthia if you can. Her Milotic is useless 90% of the time and loves nothing more than spamming surf and killing your pokemon.
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>>30731988
Singles:
Dragonite @ Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake

Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Earthquake

Greninja @ Waterium Z
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Water Shuriken
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam

Doubles:
Tapu Koko @ Choice Specs
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Dazzling Gleam
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Grass Knot

Raichu-Alola (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Surge Surfer
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic
- Grass Knot
- Protect

Gyarados (M) @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Fang
- Protect

Garchomp (F) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang
- Swords Dance

No idea on what I'm going with for Mulit, since I've heard the AI is pants on head retarded this time around.
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>>30731988
Posted this before but:

Super Singles:

Mimikyu @ Life Orb
252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Shadow Claw
- Shadow Sneak

Toxapex @ Leftovers
252 Def / 252 HP
Bold
- Toxic
- Scald
- Recover
- Baneful Bunker

Kangaskhan @ Kangashkanite
252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly
Fake Out
Return
Earthquake
Sucker Punch

Got to 51 and took a break. Was fairly comfy
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>>30738840
IKEEEEEEEEEEE
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What's the easiest/fastest way to get to 50 in the battle tree? What format, team, moves?
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>>30742032
Singles
Kartana/Megamence/Mimikyu

Fairytale core a best.
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>>30742240
what moves do you have on megamence and kartana?
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>>30740467

That will never happen. Ribbons are meant to be nothing more then signifiers of memories you've made with specific Pokemon. That's why they really don't do anything outside Sinnoh and why they have no trade value.
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>>30740957

People say Colress is pretty sweet if you get his MegaGross but the exploding one is cancer.
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>>30741597
Why Adamant Mimikyu? You miss out on a lot of outspeeds.
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>>30742297
Kartana@Life Orb
Jolly
-Leaf Blade
-Sacred Sword
-Smart Strike
-Substitue

Salamence@Salamencite
Adamant
-Double-Edge
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance
-Roost
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Huh...actually managed to beat regular singles with my starter Primarina, masudua No Guard Wolf and Pheromosa. Didn't think I'd pull it off on my first try.

Now to splurge on some much needed power items.
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>Volcarona outspeeds my jolly, 31 IV Spd, 252 EV Kartana

It doesn't have a scarf either since it was able to use other moves.
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>>30731000
>drifblim used stockpile
>drifblim used ominous wind
>all stats increased
>drifblim baton passed to salamence

I pulled through in the end but...wat???
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>>30730636

I managed to get to 40 wins with Meme-kyu w/Fairy Z move, Celesteela with big root, and Garchomp with life orb

I misclicked leech life instead of swords dance against a veterans Gallade, and that fucked me over big time

I was going against a slightyl above half HP Uxie and my Garchomp

In the situation where Uxie is half HP ish, is it better to use Crunch, which is x2 against Uxie despite it's 80 power, or Outrage which is 120 power and has stab bonus against a really tanky Uxie?

I need to know for future reference
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I'm pretty much finished with playing Super Singles
I have the stamp, and the ribbons to show
Next up is Doubles/Super Doubles, Multi/Super Mult (:
Suggestions on the best Multi Battle partner?
I got Sina.. >.>
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>>30743010
>In the situation where Uxie is half HP ish, is it better to use Crunch, which is x2 against Uxie despite it's 80 power, or Outrage which is 120 power and has stab bonus against a really tanky Uxie?

160 Base power(crunch) vs 180 Base power(outrage) senpai
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>>30739068
Mimikyu with Fairy Z move to lead

It depends if you can use Toxapex to counter physical walls or not. If not, you might have trouble with Physical walls you can't stall out/punch through
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>>30742990
stupid question but did it quiver dance or was there tailwind active
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>>30743047
>mfw I could have won if I knew how to math better

brb killing myself
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>>30740984
I know in VGC timid is useful to outspeed max speed pheromosa after conversion, but I don't know offhand what scarfers the Tree runs
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>>30743080
No. I forgot to take the power anklet off.
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>It's a choice scarf head smash Rampardos episode

Oh god what the fuck
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>>30731236
Mimikyu, Toxapex then something like Scarf Wishiwashi for cheese
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>>30743168
You have my sympathy
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>>30743183
>Scarf Wishywashi

I actually never considered this...
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>>30743168
Anon...
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>>30732553
Because legendary doesn't mean over powered
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>>30732553
Using legends during the main game is one thing.
Using Legends in a post game facility that outright tries to fuck you over is another thing entirely
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>want to use megamom again like old times
>no powerup punch
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>>30743238
I hope you hadn't, because that's an awful idea.
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>>30743418
Yeah I figured

But you know whats a good and awful idea?

Celesteela with Ingrain, Leech Life, Substitute, Flamthrower/Heavy slam with a Big Root

Arguably, if you can get either Ingrain or Leech Life off, you actually get much more HP from using a Big root than you do with Leftovers. She's great for breaking Spec Defense weak walls and stalling out stuff
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My AI partner on Multi Battles has a Brightpowder Double Team Mimikyu lead
I have no idea why this is allowed, but I'll take it
The slowdown is horrible though
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>>30731988
Tapu Lele @ Choice Specs
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Hidden Power Fire
- Focus Blast
- Moonblast

Toxapex (M) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Bold Nature
- Recover
- Toxic
- Haze
- Scald

Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ice Punch
- Meteor Mash
- Hammer Arm
- Zen Headbutt
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>>30731981
I use a double team meme set with leech seed giga drain and heavy slam
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>>30731988
Pykumuku
Alolan marowak
Mimikyu
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>>30743679
How good is that?

Like, is it as reliable as using Substitute?

I've found I got good mileage out of the Flamethrower against ice types to avoid them attacking Garchomp and avoiding the Bulky ones on Mimikyu
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is breloom in the game yet? I feel like once I can use a breloom this will be fine. I can just spore punch my way through the whole thing
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Is it possible to complete 50 streak with AI partner in Multi Battle? I am trying it for a fucking week and never got past 30 wins. The AI is just cancerous and makes terrible moves. For example Kiawes Talonflame attacks enemy Golem instead of OHKO Scizor. The same goes for Annabel when her full hp Entei uses fucking extrasensory during sunny day instead of Eruption. Any advice for good team comp to carry those tards?
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Why the fuck do i fight colress literally every ten battles

Im so sick and tired of magnezone and porygon z
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>>30743940
The same thing happens to me with Cynthia.
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>>30743348
>tfw no Seismic Toss shenanigans until bank opens
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>>30743909
Oh you think that's bad? How about Kiawe's M-Kang giving a Mudsdale a shitload of defense boost.
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I'm planning on taking the battle tree with CM Tapu Fini and Scizor. Who should be my last?
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>>30743940

I always get Wally 3-4 times, who actually turned out to be alright for multis
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>>30744134
For me his M-Kang always uses Fake Out on ghost types
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>tfw 80 matches in and going
>tfw I though you can scout Red, but you get Cynthia and friends only
>Tfw some random Youngster had a Power Herb Draco Meteor Latias, Volt Switch Raikou, and CM Latios and uses the plane dragons in multi
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>Fighting Red
>Leading with Xurkitree
>He sends in Blastoise
>Destroy it
>Then Lapras
>Destroy it
>Then Snorlax
>Destroy it with +2 from BB

Why did he send in Lapras before Snorlax? Why did the AI pick two Water types against my Xurkitree lead? Sometimes this game is an asshole but then it goes and does shit like this.

>>30744236
I scouted some random AI for their Fake Out Hariyama but then nothing was getting flinched in Multis. Looked up Hariyama's abilities. Sheer Force is in there. I think this AI has a Sheer Force Fake Out Hariyama. Absolutely mindblowing.
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>>30745452
Abilities are random in the battle tree.
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>been waiting for cynthia or Anabel
>30 battles in get cynthia
>leads off with mega luke
>I set up calm minds with fini and sweep because max defense fini eats everything she uses
I expected more,scout her anyways.
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>>30732553
Because at the end of the day "legendary" is a competitively useless title and you're playing with a bunch of pixels with different stats.
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>>30731774
Sub / Roost / DD / Return with 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Easy set up, has Intimidate when not evolved, and regents status from fucking you.
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>>30737669
Running Specs moms in battle facilities is suicide especially if they don't have a 100+ bop move with haxless accuracy
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>round 4
>bulk up conkeldurr
>cotton guard sitrus berry roost altaria
>literally 20+ turns to kill the fucking altaria with my muk
Wew
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>>30733062
This is the cool way - learn.
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>>30730878
Tapu Fini has defanged a lot of the AI's bullshit.

Sometimes it doesn't know what to do and still tries to hit me with confuse ray.
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i wanna get a shiny gengar but no1 2 trust to touch trade
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I was just able to clear normal doubles leading with an Alolan Ninetails with Weavile, and a Primarina with an Incinaroar as backup.

Holy shit do those two work together very well.
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Does anyone have either of these yet? Or are they even available?

>>30746008
I thought misty terrain only prevented statuses like sleep and paralysis.
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Because they're challenging but not unwinnable. Then they throw some major bullshit at you that makes you want to pitch your DS against a wall.
> Go up against a Dusknoir
> Only damaging move it knows is Pain Split
> Only Pokemon I have left is Incineroar
> Can't put a dent in the fat fuck ghost for some reason
> When I do it just pain splits the damage away to keep itself alive
> Can't even kill Incineroar
> After what felt like forever finally land a critical dark lariat with only two pp left and kill it
> Next round get wiped immediately by earthquake because my ground counter missed
> At Battle #18
> mfw
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>>30746415

You need a 100 win streak for Starf, and 200 win streak for Lansat.

I doubt many people have earned these legitimately at this point.
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>>30746596
Where do you get em?
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>>30732162
If you're still there, mega bune carried me through super singles in OR. I managed to get to 50 first try. Fakeout and power up punch make things really easy an the retarded AI keeps throwing ghosts at you.
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>>30732829
Even then, you can get hidden abilities by chaining you weirdo.
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>>30746617

Once you clear the required win streak, the receptionist at the Battle Tree will award them to you a day later.
>>
>face a Liepard
>never used Snatch so I never knew what it did
>try to boost
>Liepard uses Snatch to boost its stats
>okay, let's attack it
>Liepard uses Snarl to lower my SpA
>okay, let's heal
>Liepard uses Snatch to heal itself
>okay let's just... try attacking and hope for a Crit or some shit
>it switches to Flareon, which absorbed Flamethrower
>okay, let's boost
>boost a bit, and apparently Flareon does the same with Work Up
>its only physical attack is seemingly Quick Attack, which even when boosted, can be taken and be healed off
>okay, okay, that's fine
>boost up enough to lay the smackdown
>attack, it survives via Focus Sash
>whatever, that's fine, I'll just KO it next turn
>Flareon uses FLAIL
>ONE SHOT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>just another battle tower where you cant earn EXP from
its shit.
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> FOUR BACK TO BACK CRITS
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Got a new team that's working pretty good
Got fucked by a double team Zapdos

Salamence Mega
Scizor with Life Orb
and Eelektross with Assault Vest

I also tried to do multi battles with Wally and fucking AI had icemons/fairymons everywhere
>>
I have a IV and Ev trained toxapex and Minor, who would be good for a third spot?
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>>30747038
Kartana for dealing with the leftovers.
Toxapex is bad for the Tree, from my experience.
Every battle turns into a stallfest.
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>quick claw
>18.75% chance
>activates
>activates
>activates
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Are NPCs version exclusive? I've yet to seen Mallow but have fought Kiawe like 10 times
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>>30747172
Moon and Sun
Mallow and Kiawe
Guzma and Plumeria
Dexio and Sina (?)
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>>30747224
>Can't get Guzma in Sun

fug
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>>30730636
>tfw haven't even touched the battle tree yet because of breeding autism
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>>30747247
I'm the same
> tfw so close
At least I can bottlecap him
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>it's a Truant Durant with Dig episode
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>>30738840
Sometimes I had to hit stuff hard to synchro-evolve or whatever it is called.
Sometimes I just wanted to have a big nuke for ash-ninja.
Life orb is surely a valid alternative, but nihilego really needed it, so that's it.
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>>30731590
But you can, retard. I got to 14 wins with my starter and other two faggots.
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>try battle tree
>2 mons left against milotic
>mirror coat OHKO's my 1st mon
>can't deal enough damage with second mon
>recover/confuse ray spam until PP was gone
>not tried battle tree since

If I were gonna run into an NPC version of my faggot friend I wouldn't try this in the first place.
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>>30747280
Better than mine. Mine was only 4IV, missing attack and speed

It was also an accident
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>>30731574
>worse than the base form
Explain?
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>>30732782
cute as fuck

I don't even try to do anything real with it just use cottton guard 2x then leech seed
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>>30748122
Not him but it's slower.
One of regular garchomp's selling points is its trollish speed tier.
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>>30746374
hit up the bros in /wfg/, theyve always helped me out with trade evo's and are always respectful and courteous
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>>30731525
Just put a life orb on Garchomp. Mega chomp got fucked even harder this gen with the change to mega turn order calculation
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Just got a 50 win streak on super multi battle. I teamed up with my boyfriend and we managed to pull through. We were using megamence and megagross though.

Is it easier because you're supposed to be playing with a shitty AI partner?
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>tfw duck doubles set with Porygon Z, Porygon2, Golduck and Pelliper
Only problem is I can't keep the duck theme up in singles
If only there was a third duck who works better standalone with the 2 Porygon
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>>30731988
Currently at 101 wins.

Mimikyu @Lum berry
Jolly 4Hp /252Att /252Spe
-Swords dance
-Play rough
-Shadow claw
-Shadow sneak

Salamence @Salamencite
Ability: Intimidate
Jolly 252Att /4Def /252Spe
-Return
-Dragon claw
-Rock tomb
-Earthquake

Shiny Porygon-Z @Normalium Z
Ability: Adaptability
Timid 4Def /252SpA /252Spe
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Hyper Beam
-Conversion

Very effective team, Mimikyu is able to set up Swords Dance and sweep through most of the Battle tree teams, having an extra turn if the game decides to use status on you. Priority has saved my ass quite a few times.

If Mimikyu faints, Mega-Salamence is able to 3HKO everything, at the very least. Rock Tomb is very underappreciated, it's use is mainly to slow down dangerous Pokémon that outspeed my whole team and Salamence isn't able to defeat in the next turn, leaving them open to Porygon-Z. One of such Pokémon is Mega Zard Y, which sweeped me in my previous run.

If Salamence fails, Porygon-Z can make short work of anything if it's faster than them, with two viable strategies: Electric Conversion-Z is ideal to use at the start of the battle (either because Mimikyu fails or I decide to save it for later), and the other strategy is using Normal Porygon-Z Breackneck Blitz (400 BP with Adaptability, which OHKOs everything not named Mega Steelix, and doesn't have to recharge) and using regular Hyper Beam in the next turn which is less powerful but also kills everything in one hit (Amoongus does tank the hit, though)
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So I just encountered this in battle 17 of non-super doubles. Has anybody seen this before? Is it a glitch? Very confused
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>>30748560
Is one of them a zoroark? Probably not against the rules either way
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>>30748576
yeah one of them was a Zoroark. I feel kinda dumb in hindsight, but that still confused the hell out of me at first
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Got to 192 with Kartana, Celesteela and Tapu Lele. I give up.
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>>30748680

I can feel your pain from here.
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>>30743940

The game thinks his team is the best equipped out of the special trainers to fuck your shit up. Given your fustrations with his Pokemon, it appears to be correct.
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>>30745452

The A.I being brain dead like that is why it cheats. GF is trying to balance out their stupidity.
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>>30730636
I disagree, so how about you give me 7 destiny knots so i can have one for each in my hexa seven and one on my ditto.
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>>30747280
>mfw getting fucking teased like a bitch
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Feeling quite proud of my team for getting 30+ wins in Super Singles without using Tapus, UBs, or legendaries. Team is M-Gengar, Z-Incineroar, and Hariyama.

Teams with legendaries are fucking me up though. I might have to add a UB just to get to 50. Anybody else make it there without the use of one?
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>>30749017
Won't matter at level 50.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsYvrWztoE4
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>>30749017
I've got a bunch of 6iv Miniors now
Took around 800 eggs for my shiny
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>>30749034
Honestly shit like Mega Mence are more broken than most UBs. UBs are minmaxed to a fault that the AI can easily use to cheat you out of a win and by far the easiest time most people have been having in the Battle Tree so far is using Mimikyu. Fucking Mimikyu. Free Sword Dance is a helluva drug.

Use Kartana for physical, maybe Pheromosa for special/physical(she will faint at a slight breeze though) and Celesteela for bulk.
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>>30730636
>addicting
Addictive dumb burger
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Eh...time to see how far I can make it in super singles with this crap team.
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>>30749632
At least post your team, anon.
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What would be a good 3rd member to round out Mimikyu and Hydreigon? Also I normally run Hydreigon with a life orb but since I'm hearing that it's also good for Mimikyu, what should I do?
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>>30749637
Primarina
Lycanroc night
Pheromosa

on the 9th battle. Surprised I lasted this far
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>>30749971
put focus sash on mimikyu and set up two sword dances
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>>30750827
And the dream dies at 11...Time to breed a proper primarina.
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CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH A TEAM SO THAT I DONT SUCK AT THIS
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>>30751212
>>30750827
(Assuming you're the same person)

Megamence
LO Nihilego
Scarfed Xurkitree
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>>30738189
Bullshit. Shadow Sneak will not OHKO everything even with 2 SDs. Most of the time you won't even get off 2 SDs because you'll be KO'd or status'd. Even haxed.
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>>30751022
Thanks, but what would be a good 3rd member for those two?
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>>30751997
Nah that's alright I like the weird team I have. If All else fails I'll wait until january to get my bank stuff.
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>>30732009
One other important screw over is Mold Breaker, since it goes through Disguise. Was my final poke vs Excadrill and got killed quick because I didn't know that.
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>>30737167
>bring pheromosa
>everything is sashed with priority

>bring minior
>everything is bulky red card or z-move
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>my team big weakness is Mamoswine
>suddenly 3 Mamoswine fights in a row
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ra8 ma8s

life orb bulu

goodra @ grassy seed (+1 def)
hydration
dpulse
thunder
muddy water
rest

damp rock pelipper
mega metagross

pretty easy wins in double so far
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