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>>30730291

A GAME THEORY

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>>30730280
>People thought that this was going to happen

>>30730280
Her mother dresses her.
Her mother loves Nihelego.
Her mother dressed her up to look like Nihelego.

LILLIE'S COMA DREAM

>>30730280
>"T-Team Skull will end up helping us, guys!! I-I promise..!!"

>>30730321
see >>30730340

It was a theory everyone was sure to make, but doesn't necessarily debunk certain associations with it either.

like >>30730352

Which only makes the whole thing even more fucking out of wack.

>>30730376

In a way, I appreciate it didn't go that way because it would be too predictable, as shown by several people actually trying to predict and wanting something of this sort

but at the same time, liked how the story presented Guzma as, well, not being as crazy as that ho.

that line murdered me as well given its place

>>30730280
>people were retarded enough to think this would happen
>in pokemon

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>>30730280
I held on to the idea to save myself the trouble of getting too attached to Lillie. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it wasn't true.

Would you a NihiLillie?

>>30730352
Which UB would she have dressed Hau up as?

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>>30731198
Would YOU?

It was the sort of thing that was so predictable that the actual "fucked up mom uses her daughter as a doll to appease her jellyfish obsession" angle was a pleasant surprise. I remember when everyone was reaching big-time to connect Gladion to Buzzwole and Kartana to Wicke.

>>30730376
Well, they kind of does. Ilima trial would be technically impossible if team skull didn't help you out.

>>30730280
>Aether is evil, Skull is based!
>Lillie is UB 1, Lusamine is beauty, and >Guzma/Gladion is gains skeeto!
>We are going to interdimensional war aganst the ultra beasts!
>Zygarde's in the tree, and will be the final weapon!
>Ballio!
Good times.

>>30732684
>Ballio

FUCK I WANTED RAPE CLOWN

>>30731228
Guzzlord

>>30732684
>Aether is evil, Skull is based
This was true though

>>30732802
Well, somewhat. The original theory was that Aether was the real evil team, and you'd team up with Guzma to take it down. Instead, Guzma and team Skull were subsidiaries to Aether, and just the grunts in general were cool people.

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>>30730280
>people wanted the UBs to be shapeshifter people
>people STILL thought it could be true after the datamine discovered Beast Balls and UBs in the Pokedex

>>30732858
I would've preferred if you team up with a splinter faction of Team Skull to take down Guzma and Lusamine maybe give the leader a Skuntank as an ace :^)

>>30732684
>>Zygarde's in the tree, and will be the final weapon!
If only we knew that there was an exact replica of Zygarde's cave a few feet away from the tree, complete with orbs set at each corner. That Zygarde still wasn't in

>>30730280
Well, the answer for why they looked alike (lusamine dressing herself and others to look like UBs) was pretty good, but the character themselves were soooo much worse than if they actually went with the idea everyone predicted that UB were shapeshifters.

>Lillie is just Bianca 2.0 in her character arc.
>UBs are just pokemons with stupid designs because "LOL OTHER DIMENSION"

Making Lillie a fucking dimensional alien would make her character 100% more interesting, as it is now, she is more of a nuisance through the plot than anything, and UBs wouldnt be something unique and interesting instead of just another boring poke in the fucking 800 we already have.

>>30733031
We thought so highly of GF for like, what, two weeks? I feel bad for falling for it.

>>30732906
But fat Zygarde was

>>30733052
I mean, they clearly meant for that speculation since they released pheromosa and nihilego together with lusamine and aether stuff, and said that nihilego tended to "imitate" other forms of life, so they are clever sometimes, just not the time it really counts.

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>Guzma will never be a human Xurkitree who learned about human compassion through his time with Skull
>Lusamine will never be a human Pheromosa who acts as a UB Queen obsessed with making everyone love her that she invades the Pokemon world to spread her tyranny
>Lillie will never be a human Nihilego who acts as the UB Princess.
>Wicke will never be a human Celesteela who acts as Lillie's caretaker.
>Gladio will never be a human Buzzwole who learned that Pokemon are wonderful through his bond with Silvally.

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>>30733329
Good fucking riddance

>>30730340
It was still fairly viable theory

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Remember UB aren't pokemon, they aren't listed in the pokemon section of the website.

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>>30733348
Shut up my man

>>30733365
All UBs are Pokemon, but not all Pokemon are UBs.

>>30733365
Beauty looks a lot more like Kahil the Elite 4 girl

>>30732867
A human in a pokeball is desperately needed by a lot of people. Including me.

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Remember this doesn't confirm anything. Flase flag from Masuda.

>>30730291
>>30730332
As much as I think he's a faggot, that's not one of MattPat's shitty vids.

>>30732684
you forgot
>UB are totally not catchable guys

>>30732906
But Zygarde IS in the cave. Twice, even.

>>30733365
Remember when we all thought Necrozma was a UB?
Good times.

>>30733305
>When we thought the veteran trainer class was actually a unique NPC instead of a class
I almost forgot about that

Remember when we thought Solgaleo/Lunala were ancient Totems whom we have to unseal to fight back against the UBs.

Remember when Tapu Koko was not a legend but rather, an Alolan Title for legends like Solgaleo and Lunala?

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we did find out what was in the bag though

>>30733744
Technically, he is

>>30733611
Is this a ____ _________?

>>30733873
Do beast balls work on him?

>>30733830
Remember when we thought Hala used Electric Types and had Tapu Koko on his team

>>30733892
No, Necrozma is a UB in the same context as Solgaleo and Lunala.

>>30733892
Beast balls don't work well on solgaleo or lunalaa, but they came from ultra space.

>>30733892
Beast Balls work on every mon, they just have absurdly low catch rates.
I caught a wingull in one and named it NlGGERFAqqOT and sent it through WT
>>30733873
The dex doesn't use the same green layout for Necrozma, it uses the same yellow one reserved for legendaries.

>>30732684
>Guzma/Gladion is gains skeeto!
No. Guzma was Xurkitree, Gladion was Necrozma.

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MC-kun, you don't mind if I release those limiters on you?

>>30734045
Technically the trio of Alola are all UBs, the orignals just came from Ultra Space so long ago that they've adapted to our universe and basically become regular (legendary) Pokemon

>IT ALL CUMS TOGETHER
>HA! Y'all are stupid! It was never going to happen
Like pottery.

>inb4 /vp/ is one person
No, but it is one board, and literally everyone on this board was shitposting about Lillie being UB-01.

>>30734130
I never believed it, especially since I had always beleived the UBs were just going to be catchable Pokemon.

>>30730712
>It didn't happen so people are retarded!
Something similar happened with Lusamine, how would that idea be less logical?

>>30734189
Then you're even more retarded. With all that evidence right in your face, you have to have severe autism to not see the uncanny similarities.

>>30734261
I saw the similarities, I just thought the idea was retarded and never going to happen. Like the starter split evos meme

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sun and moon are gonna reboot the franchise you guys!

>>30734305
Difference is, starter split evos was pulled right out a fat loser's ass, with nothing supporting it.
Human being UBs literally happened in-game.

>>30730321
What we got was better and something people actually didn't predict.

>>30733305
>The final Kahuna turned to be a fucking loser
>Who sits in the police station all day
>With his fat cats

>>30734350
Yeah no it didn't. Nihilego gives its heroin shit to Lusamine and buffs her mons. That is not the same thing as UBs disguising/shapeshifting as people

>>30734408
Lusamine and Nihilego literally fused. They became one. A human turned into a UB. Granted, it didn't happen exactly like people thought it would- there was no shapeshifting. But a human turned into a UB. That proves the concept wasn't too farfetch'd.

>>30730280
>There were people who thought Sophocles was going to be on the second island
Top jej

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>>30734480
>farfetch'd
shitty argument immediately discarded

>Gazuma will be the final captain
If only...

>>30734404
Hey it was his Persian's birthday.

>>30734548
>Gazuma
Is that a Chinese knock-off Our Boi?

>>30734523
Wow, talk about reaching for an excuse to discredit a point you can't refute!

>>30731893

>>30734523
Oh my Arceus, you're so salty! XD

>>30733611
>masua confirmes STARS

>>30734581
You're the one who moved the goalposts from "These characters are UBs in disguise" to "Well one sits on a character's head at one point so it's basically true"

Only speculation hype I liked was rotom is going to translate for all your pokemon.

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>Zygarde is the leader of both trios!
I admit, that made me kek but I'm glad it didn't turn out that way because that shit is really reaching quite far. Zygarde will forever be Xerxer and Yveltal's leader in my heart even that theory is true.

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>>30734689
It's kind of true from a certain perspective. How does he know about Gengar's past?

>>30734333
>Muh alchemy!

>>30734782
Muk rebooted the franchise with Power of Alchemy

>>30734333
>It all comes together! 4 islands, 4 original games?
>That guy in the GF HQ spergs out and screams "Pika pika!" if you tell him you loved Yellow
Coincidence?!?!1

>>30734404
has anyone drawn Jon Arbuckle as Nanu?

>>30734707
I just hope that when Necrozma get his new form (or forms if we get sequels) 100% Zygarde swoops in to fight it because it considers it a huge threat to the planet.


Kaiju fight please, GF

>>30734808
>Muk Elric saves alola by teaching people about their lord and savior, equivalent exchange (and Gunk Shot)

>>30734523
Great argument. Can't refute that.

>>30734636
No. The only difference is that UBs can't turn into humans. Humans still turn into UBs. Basically nothing changed.

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>>30734782
I admit, I wasn't really confident how will Pokemon handle alchemy.

>>30734853
>Expecting Zygarde to amount to anything
Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but GF gives so few fucks about Zygarde that they gave him an inconsequential sidequest that the main quest-givers fuck off from 10% in instead of a third game. GF will never do anything fun with Zygarde, ever. Honestly I'm surprised he's legal in Battle of Alola.

>>30730352
Gladion's dialogue suggests that she also dressed him up like Nihilego, that's why he rebelled and became a hobo.

>>30734689
Didn't Masuda or someone say this was planned at one point for X and Y? I think they said they scrapped it because they wanted to make unique phrases for all 721 Pokémon.

>>30734782
Funny how only Solgaleo had a slight connection to Alchemy on this theme, Lunala is based around myths and spirituality

>>30735002
Unique phrases for all natures for every pokemon or bust.

>>30734404
That's the third Kahuna, the fourth is Hapu

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>Rockruff is the 4th starter!

>>30734887
>humans can turn into ubs
No? She got like boosted but I don't think they ever referred to her become a UB

>>30735081
Rockruff has 4 evolutions, one for each island.

>>30735081
>Rocktuff is a physical Eevee!

>>30735110
All the starters are oricorio

>>30735024
>Adamant Aggron
MASTER, I SHAT ON YOUR CAR. DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? SPEAK UP, MANLET!
>Timid Aggron
M-MASTER, WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I SHAT ON YOUR CAR?
>Careful Aggron
(HMM... I SHOULD MOVE MY SHIT SO MASTER DOESN"T KNOW I SHAT ON HIS CAR)
>Impish Aggron
MASTER, CHARIZARD JUST SHAT ON YOUR CAR
>Quirky Aggron
MASTER, I HELD A BARBECUE ON YOUR CAR
>Lonely Aggron
I WISH I HAD A MASTER SO I COULD SHIT ON HIS CAR...
>Bashful Aggron
MASTER, I... Y'KNOW, ON YOUR CAR... OH, DON'T MAKE ME SAY IT
>Sassy Aggron
MASTER, AIN'T NO ONE GOT TIME TO GO LOOK FOR A BATHROOM!

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>Rockruff and the starters share the same secret!

>>30735224
The secret they share is that no one uses them competitively.

>>30733873
He's a legendary not a UB. They confirm this when Looker claims there is another UB and Wicke tells him all their energy is gone.
Also look at him in the pokedex

>>30735224
Ahh I forgot about the last thread the denialfags were holding onto

>>30735224
Oh yeah, I forgot about that magazine.

Well they totally fucking lied, didn't they?

>>30735255
Except the Alola trio were originally UBs according to in game lore

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>>30735267
No you retard
It was a mistranslation and people wouldn't fucking let it go

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>>30735254
Leave OU to me

>>30735290
what was the real translation?

>>30735372
Basically "Rockruff has a secret! The starters have a secret too!"

Rockruff's being its split forms and the starters being their Z Moves I guess, both being things first shown in Corocoro

>>30735372
Basically it was like 2 seperate sentences like:

"Rockruff's little body holds a secret! The three starters have a secret of their own as well!"

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Speaking of of the shared secret:
>You can synchro with Rockruff and the Starters!

>>30735417
>>30735440
neat thanks

>>30734878
>equivalent exchange
you mean the swap moves?

>>30730280
Wasn't part of that theory also the fact that on the site UB-01's description said that ist movement mimic those of a small Girl?

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>it's gonna be the first all-female starter!

>>30735817
>It'll get better, guys! You'll see!

Will PokeSpain have a hype season like SM's?
Or is it going to be as milquetoast as XY(like everything else with that generation).

The amount of moldbreaking is amazing.

>>30732906
My theory is that the Zygarde Cell quest was originally implemented as a post-game thing and you got the Zygarde Cube in that cave. Then they decided to just give it to you earlier in the game so you didn't have to do as much backtracking.

>>30733365
Necrozma is not an ultra beast
Hala is not Guzzlord
Kartana is Mohn

>>30736174
I kinda would've preferred the back tracking just so I would know which cells I picked up

>>30736264
I liked getting it early. 50% form for the first Lusamine fight was comfy, and cinematic as fuck.

>>30735817
>People were still expecting any starter to have its majority become the female to male gender just because of its design
>People expected half and half gender ratio when they literally have never done that to any other starter
>People expected

enjoy your fairly special seal and soft resetting/breeding for your special female, then realizing it's a glass cannon that gets outsped by everything you love and hate

at least it gets the work done

>>30736889
I still don't get why starter gender ratios are so unbalanced. It's always confused me when like 90% of other Pokemon have 50/50 ratios

>>30737001
You need a female to breed therefore Starters are hard to breed
Except Ditto exists and always has existed when it comes to Genders and Breeding being in the picture so it's completely pointless.

>>30737001
"Rare" pokemon favor males to make breeding them more difficult, while only cutesy shitmons favor females, or things that only evolve when female.

>>30737035
Except breeding didn't exist in gen1?

>>30730280
Why does Guzma look like Xurkitree

>>30737035
>>30737076
So it's basically to keep you from just breeding a starter with a better nature and IV's during the main game?

>>30737001

something something making starters harder to breed something something even though the GTS exists something something Dittos something

Yeah, I'd like half and half gender ratios too, but like that would happen. I already know Game Freak's train of thought.

>>30737112
He doesn't.

>>30733365
>grasping for straws this hard

Lillie/Lusamine look like Nihilego/Pheromosa but if you unironically think that gladion and hala resemble Buzzwole and guzzlord at all then you're completely stupid

Lillie/Nihilego was intentional.
Lusamine/Pheromosa was a red-herring.
Everything else was reaching.

>>30737111
Yeah but when they introduced it in Gen 2, Ditto already existed, and since they gave Ditto special breeding powers, it made making specific pokemon hard to breed moot.


If Ditto had been introduced in Gen 3 or 4, or not given a special breeding ability, things would be different.

>>30732858
Plumeria was cool, and so were a number of the grunts, two rappers in the abandoned Pokémon Center.

>>30734051
Gladion and Necrozma were kind of pushed, but Guzma and Xurkitree really does look like, the hair, the wacky way to walk, and even color palette.

>>30732684
No one really thought ballio was real, there were only people who wanted to bait, and people who wanted to be baited.

>>30730280
Does anyone here have the image compilation of the leaks?

>>30730280
Literally looks like that because of her mother. Thats why she changes her look for her "Z Form"

>>30737677
Sauce??

>>30737677
sauce?

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>>30734071
> mfw Nihilego hat was canon

Doesn't the pokedex say something about them acting like little girls
There's obviously a connection, though it's probably >>30730352

>>30734333
But X/Y was a semi-reboot already

>>30735817
I had a female in the first try, so I asumed it really is, until I checked online.

>>30730280
see problem with this particular theory was that it was always retarded. No one who isn't retarded ever suggested the people were secretly UBs or the UBs were secretly people. The implication was that the UBs, being otherworldly, modeled themselves after something familiar to the landscape they emerged in when entering our world. Sort of like how transformers always worked, scanning cars and tapedecks and shit. The sensible theory surrounding the character similarities had been that UB01 had some kind of relationship with Lillie, hence it taking her shape.

>Ash Greninja
>a throwaway line of dialogue from a no-name npc in Kalos
>people actually believed Gen 7 would have trainers turning into pokemon
ultimate kek

>synchro
KEK

>>30741205
I like that design
Gumshoos is better though

>>30737677
>>30739128
I... did not know I needed this.
And need more of it.
Dammit. Fuck you. And thanks, m8.

Remember the endless shitposting about Megas not returning?

>>30744061
I await the day they don't, this franchise might become salvagable

>>30741333
got surprisingly close on golisopod