Battle Tree thread. Has anyone tested DD Multiscale Dragonite

>>30700046
On the topic of dragonite with HA, any egg moves I should breed onto this thing? I'm considering aqua jet.

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>>30700046
I just got to 38 wins on my first try at super doubles. No idea how this happened.

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Should I use focus sash over wide lens on Pheromosa? I like the accuracy boost for HJK but Pheromosa dies too easily.

Or should I just use something else?

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Should I have my team be:

Megamence
Scarf Xurkitree
LO Nihilego

OR

Megamence
Expert Belt/Choice Band Pheromosa
LO Nihilego

>>30700190

Life Orb.

>>30700150

Once bank hits, it definately needs Extreme Speed. They really should make that easier to get though, having just one egg move require a game from 2009 is dumb.

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My Red has Espeon and Alolan Raichu. Is that good enough for multi's or should I try to recruit a different one?

>>30700226
>They really should make that easier to get though
What Pokemon in the Dragon egg group should get Extreme Speed, then? My vote goes to Drampa.

>>30700046

DDnight was never held back by confusion.
Dominating singles since they put them on trains!

What are some good items to get before stocking up BP? I have the Life Orb, Expert Belt and Lum/Sitrus/type berries

I dont know what to use the battle tree cause I want to be a special snowflake but also be capable of winning.

>>30700435
I'd just use whatever hits the hardest from that list, I think power is more important than bulk for this thing

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>>30700435
Do what I did. Pick a mon you want to play with and then build around it.

I got through Super Singles (left it at 50 wins) with Drampa who I wanted to play with, Mega Scizor, and Tapu Lele.

Specially Defensive Buzzwole is fun as fuck, holy shit. If it doesn't have wings this nigga isn't going down.
Currently debating whether or not to stick with Leftovers or switch over to an Assault Vest once I can buy it.
>>30700414
Steal a Leftovers from a Munchlax. Also, the "heals in a pinch but causes confusion if the Pokemon dislikes the taste" berries are better than Sitrus this gen, they now heal 50% of your health in a pinch with no drawback if you know your flavors.

>>30700359
Just...give it to Dragonite. He's the one that gets the move anyway, and you don't have to potentially unabalance any other dragons.

>>30700328
I-is Red fighting Red?

>>30700519
The drawback is they trigger at 25% instead of 50%.

>>30700534
DEEPEST
FUCKING
LORE

>>30700519
>Specially Defensive Buzzwole is fun as fuck, holy shit.
What set are you running? I imagine it's Bulk Up/Leech Life/Fitghan STAB/coverage?

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>last 10 fights in super singles is filled with npcs using legends and hax out the ass
YAMERO

>>30700328
2 Reds? N-Nani?

>>30700629
No Bulk Up, since I originally intended it to be an AV set only using Lefties until I could afford it. I find Beast Boost does well enough. I run Careful with max HP/Special Defense investment, Leech Life/Ice Punch/EQ/Brick Break for reliability over Hammer Arm. Even without the Vest it tanked Gothitelle's Psychic from ~55% HP and barely feels most Dazzling Gleams, however, an Assault Vest would let it survive shit like Life Orb Alakazam's Psychic, which is huge.

>>30700224
Nature of your Nihilego?

>>30700226
>>30700359
>>30700533
Drampa, thematically, makes no sense IMO. I wish they'd make Noivern Flying/Dragon egg groups and give it Extreme Speed.

Then that could breed with Dragonite.

>>30700752
Timid, it outspeeds everything with that troll speed and a positive nature and LO+Beast Boost makes up for the tiny bit of lost special attack big time. I like to use Power Gem, Dazzling Gleam, Thunderbolt and Sludge Wave.

>>30700752

Timid is considered best since with max sp.atk and speed since with equal investment, beast boost will still boost sp.atk.

>>30700733
I'm running almost the same set, just with power up punch instead. Ass vest, too.
It might be my favorite tree mon. Accumulating boosts and then leeching back to full hp feels amazing. Surviving Zam psychic and then firing back with leech life is glorious.

>>30700786
Didn't realize jellyfish got t-bolt
I've been running grass knot. Saved my ass quite a few times against things that would've walked all over me otherwise.

>>30700661
They're good scout targets, at the least. Can't go wrong when your teammate is using legendaries.

I scouted Kiawe and he has a Mega Kangaskhan with Fake Out. He's been such a fucking bro in Multi Battles because he can Fake Out and flinch a target while my Porygon-Z safely sets up Z-Conversion.

Not sure who my second should be so I just went with M-Salamence. Any suggestions?

>Red's Venusaur

It was my fault having a taunter on my ream.

I want to build a team with Tapu Fini and Mega Scizor, what 3rd teammate do you suggest?

>>30701535
Garchomp, Fini is weak to Electric and Mega Scizor doesn't resist it, and the rest of your team handles Garchomp's weaknesses well.

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Just beat Super Singles match 50 on my first try. I got really lucky. Red's Mega Charized Y missed with heat wave against my Buzzwole and in the end I won with 0 pokemon alive as Mimikyu died from life orb recoil.

My team was:
Wishiwashi leftovers
Mimikyu life orb
Buzzwole Assault Vest.

>>30701661
That 50% dragon move damage decrease from Misty Terrain sucks though, but it could also help Garchomp in case it gets hit by a dragon move.

I've been thinking about using a Krookodile, is it good enough for Battle Tree?

>>30700497
Everything I want to use has a glaring Fire weakness I dont know how to cover because fire type moves get decent distribution

>>30701735

It's good enough for 3v3 normally, but be sure to not lead with him. Otherwise, you'll see nothing but special attackers.

My current team is:
Pheromosa
A-Marowak
Top Lele

Should I switch pheromosa and use everyone's favorite OU landshark?

>>30700190
Expert Belt's been working for me.

>>30700190
Life Orb or Fightium Z so you have a100% accurate, super powerful Fighting type attack that's almost gaurunteed to get you a Beast Boost against anything that doesn't resist it.

>>30701250
God it would have been shit in competitive but that thing is pure cancer if you don't have a hard-hitting super effective attack on your team

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Anyone fight that backpacker girl that complains about food poisoning and has a trick room team? Gotta recruit her, but my team is way different than before so she never shows up. What team did you run when you found her?

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>>30702493
Who are the ones you want to use? If you can't cover it with your second pick, you cover it with your third.

And remember no team is perfect.

Anyway, for example, I know that Chandelure beats both Scizor and Tapu Lele, so Drampa capitalizes on dealing with it. I know that Blaziken and Infernape and Emboar can beat both Drampa and Scizor, so I EV'd my Tapu Lele to be able to take a Flare Blitz from Blaziken while it naturally resists Fighting 4x, and holds a Scarf.

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>tfw cheesing super doubles with rock slide spam

The battle tree barely ever uses wide guard so it's pretty easy to get free flinches. I've had games where none of my Pokemon even get hit.

>>30700151
47 on my first 28 on my second and currently at 21

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So what's the preferred Salamence-Mega set? Jolly? Adamant? I know Intimidate is nice.

Really can't decide the nature.

What are the good partners for Salamence-Mega?

What Megas are considered best for the Battle Tree? I have some BP I need to spend.

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>>30700151
Welp.

>get to the 40th battle
>cynthia
>she has mega garchomp
>lands three stone edges in a row
>2 of which are crits
>meanwhile I can't hit meteor mash most of the time

well.

>>30704522
jolly with return, earthquake, dragon claw and dragon dance seems nice.

Does the Poke Pelago EV training work based on real time?

Can I finally go back to Monster Hunter while my mons are EV training passively?

>>30704522
I used

Thrash
EQ
Flamethrower (gets the same kills and is more accurate than Fire Blast)
and Draco Meteor for any dragons that might tank a thrash

I used Naive but Jolly is good too

>>30700967
I've been conflicted which to use as well. Grass knot kicks Golurks and the like's ass whereas TB could definitely have come in handy

>>30705573

Yes. Once it's level 3, it's 4 evs per session.

Do Xurkitree and Marowak work well together in Doubles? I feel like between Xurk's enormous Sp. Attack Discharge/Energy Ball and Marowak's good coverage and Bulk/Thicc Club they could handle just about everything but a pair of ground types.

>>30705823
Nice I already maxed out the Pelago some time ago. So I guess I can finally get back to hunting.

>>30706007
Marowak will redirect Xurkitree's tbolts so it can only use discharge which might be unable to get crucial KOs. They're also both kind of slow so you might want to use something like trick room or tailwind.

Current team which I used to get 62 is.

Dragonite
Aegislash
Fini

Going to use this till bank as it's really easy to get 30 wins but I feel like fini could be replaced with a lot of things. Tried to make a team around Mimikyu for quicker wins but 90% accuracy on play rough sucks.

I'm contemplating using Eeveeium Z for doubles now. Maybe even singles. Extreme Evoboost + Baton Pass, switch into Milotic or M-Scizor for example. I think it might wreck.

>>30706297
The problem with that is that you need two turns (okay, one and a half) for that to work, and Eevee dies to everything. And you can't Sash it or slap on an Eviolite.
I'd say it's a no-go in Singles, but it might work in Doubles with redirection support/possibly Friend Guard.

I've almost beat super singles gonna start breeding my doubles team. I want something rain with drizzle peliper and probably tapu Koko. What else should I use? Maybe Kingdra and ....

>>30706540
Well. I've caught a 4IV Eevee with the right IVs (HP, Spe, SpD, Def) and I intended to train EVs to 252 speed and HP. Also making it Timid.
I do intended to use for Doubles, since my partner is Cynthia who starts out as Garchomp. I'd say it's worth the risk, since whenever I get it to work it's gg. Not to mention with this set, and I can go first, it might be capable of taking a hit thanks to the +2 in Def and SpD.

>>30706603
Toxapex with Toxic Spikes?

I've got a Garchomp and a Mimikyu ready for Singles, what should my Third Pokemon be?

>>30706683
Suicide Pheromosa. Focus Sash
It's what I use, and I beat normal singles easy.

>>30706609
Remember that the Battle Tree will actively build to counter your team. Expect a lot of Taunt, Haze, and Roar/Whirlwind shenanigans to come your way. Good luck.

>>30701728

Moves?

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Running:
Nihilego focus sash suicide starter with
Garchomp life orb
Celesteela

>Absolutely breezing through only 1 close game that was decided on my celesteela hitting the second protect
>Get to 41st floor
>Get absolutely fucked by a mega venasaur because I cant set up and my celesteela misses 3 flame throwers


AHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DOES THIS SHIT HAPPEN

>>30706297
You can use Whimsicott in singles, Prankster Tailwind+Memento and then boost and pass with eevee, but the strategy relies on not being crit, which makes it too risky and unsuitable for long streaks.

Current team:

Mimikyu @ Focus Sash
Jolly nature 252 atk 252 spd
-Shadow Sneak
-Play Rough
-Leech Life
-Swords Dance

Golisopod @ Assault Vest
Adamant nature 252 atk 252 def
Aqua Jet
First Impression
Sucker Punch
Leech Life

Kartana @ Expert Belt
Jolly Nature 252 atk 252 speed
Leaf Blade
Smart Strike
Sacred Sword
Night slash


Has gotten me a good streak so far.

I got to 98 wins with Modest scarf Xurkitree, Jolly sash Garchomp, and Relaxed lefties celesteela. I lost to 8 turns freeze.

>>30706950
You haven't run into any physical walls that gave you trouble?

>>30707251
I imagine that Kartana has such sheer, immense power that it can cut through walls, while Mimikyu could just boost its way past walls.

>>30706950
Have you considered Life Orb for Kartana?

>>30707662
>I imagine that Kartana has such sheer, immense power that it can cut through walls
You'd think that, but with its strongest move being STAB Leaf Blade it's actually weaker than Terrakion.

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>it's a walrein episode

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>>30702687
Fuck that one backpackers with THAT Walrein. God, I hate it. I hate it so bad.

I got through normal Singles first try and did Battle Royal with that one Muk build anon recommended easily, but goddamn, the hax on the Super Singles just makes me not want to play.

>get to battle 12 early on
>doing quite well, eating through madams team
>she gets out a Feralgatr (can never spell it)
>Aqua Tail
>critical hit
>Muk died
>Aqua Tail
>critical hit
>Celesteela died (!)
>Aqua Tail
>Mimikyu uses its disguise
>Aw yea, Sword Dance, here we go
>Fuckintg faggot crocodile outspeeds my Jolly Mimikyu and hits it
>with a critical Aqua Tail
Fuck it, idol pose is cuter anyway ;_;

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>>30708119
>It's a Vespiquen episode.

>>30708394
>get to stage 49
>2/3 of team dies to lucky bs
>Toxicroak
>I sent out milotic
>Taunt + dry skin
>can't do shit

>Dexio stalled the fuck out of me
That was BS.

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You did bring someone with Toxic, right?

>>30702567

go with Megados so you can bait out more electric types for Marowak to wall.

>>30708722
Can't be worse than Colress' Muk, the one with Minimize and Rest. Holy shit I ended up losing all PP and so did he, clutch won with struggle recoiling

Pathetic.

>>30700519
>Also, the "heals in a pinch but causes confusion if the Pokemon dislikes the taste" berries are better than Sitrus this gen, they now heal 50% of your health in a pinch with no drawback if you know your flavors.

this literally only works with Muk, since it's the only Pokemon that
1. has gluttony
2. actually wants to use gluttony instead of another better ability
3. has no better berries to use, unlike something like BD Linoone

>>30700046
how can anyone use dragonite, he looks like fucking barney

>>30708920

this, one of the ugliest dragons especially the shiny version

>>30708920

Because Multiscale and a Lum Berry make it easy for him to get a Dragon Dance off. Dance dances brings his attack stat into OHKO range for a lot of shit and he'll outspeed loads of stuff after it as well.

>>30709004
i just cant when he looks so dumb

>>30700226
>having just one egg move require a game from 2009 is dumb.
that means they don't actually want it to have the damn move to begin with after that one game

>>30708910
You're literally wrong.

Snorlax is the best user of it since it actually has Recycle to turn the berry into a Recover. I've been using a SpDef set of it in the Battle Tree.

And BD Linoone prefers the berry since it means it can always get off a BD.

Scouting doesn't end my streak right?

>>30709223
No.

Is Mega Pinsir available in S/M? He's what I used to sweep teams in the battle maison.

>>30707775
Not the same anon, but I was just fucked by a Houndoom that Grimsley was using, and Kartana was my last Pokemon. It had a Life Orb, too. If it had a Focus Sash, I would've won that fight. Focus Sash might be a better alternative, emphasis on might.

>>30709235
Yes, Airelate got needed to only a 20% boost though.

>>30709371
Fug. Well I guess its only fair, that ability was pretty busted.

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>Trick Room Bronzong

>>30709194
you're literally retarded

Snorlax just runs Thick Fat
Linoone would rather use a Salac Berry so that it actually kill something

>>30709468
Are you some kind of sheep who shits on anything until it becomes standard? Not even Serebii or Bulbapedia have picked up on the Berry changes.

>Snorlax just runs Thick Fat
How absolutely pathetic. Yeah because we should fucking run an old set when talking about this new item.

And Linoone has E-Speed.

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My record is 4 battles in the first simple

I just had someone use Bullet Punch during Psychic Terrain, why might that happen? Another Pokemon failed to use it just after. Does Scrappy allow it?

>>30709626
Terrain's protection and healing effects only apply to grounded Pokemon.

>>30709626
Was the target flying or have levitate? Terrains don't effect them.

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>>30709446
>trick room rain dance bronzong
>never a problem when i got salad fingers here

>>30709648
>>30709652
The one being attacked? Yes, I think they were Flying. Cheers.

What's a foolproof multi battle team? Two humans rather than one plus an AI.

>>30700534
Specifically, two different Reds from different copies of Gen I games

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>tfw the Tree keeps tossing Ghosts like Decidueye at my Double Edge/EQ/DD/Roost Megamence
Not complaining one bit.

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>decide to swap memefrog for something else for once
>battle #19
>scarf aerodactyl

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Beat Red in Singles with A-Persian/Garchomp/Aegislash. Need help building a team for doubles.

Thinking about doing the generic rain team and going with Pelipper, Top Kek, and A-Raichu. What should my 4th be? Xurkitree being my 3rd electric type seems excessive. What have you other guys succeeded with?

also how the fuck do you with at battle royales

all i fucking want is that fucking idol style ffs

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>You can't scout a copy of every single trainer
At least I can finally ditch the default breeder.

>>30709657
What do you run on mushroombro?

Right now I'm using a super gimmicky set that's actually working ONLY because the AI so predictably chucks constant Flying types at him.
>Spore
>Dream Eater
>Giga Drain
>Charge Beam
Anything non-Grass gets Spored, if I can feasibly kill it in two turns it's fucked, if not, net a couple Charge Beam boosts and then either send em back to sleep, or nuke it with the Electric Z-move.

I'm sure there's plenty of shit that's gonna destroy this, though, I'm just using it cuz I have shit for competitive items right now.

>>30708799
fucking taunt him, jesus christ he has no attacks.

>>30708119
>>30708630
it's almost like you could deal with both of these things with either a taunter, electric type or rock type

>>30710734

>Dream Eater

Jesus fuck, there must be something better than this you can put on it.

>>30710879
What's the best taunter to use?

I'm carrying Jolly Mimikyu and Sassy Celesteela

>>30711106
Totally could, Shiinotic has HUGE options.

I just wanted to be able to shit on slow Poison types.

I know there's a much better set than mine out there, though.

>>30709064
They could easily remove it as an egg move in that case, and they've given it out with events before. This isn't Wish Blissey.

>>30710879
>Bring a taunter.
>The stallmon has mental herb.

>>30706212
moves?

I've been pretty successful with

Mega Kang (Forget if it's Jolly or Adamant offhand)
Scrappy
>Fake Out
>Return
>EQ
>Crunch

Jolly Garchomp @ Lum Berry
Rough Skin
>EQ
>Outrage
>Rock Slide
>Dragon Claw (figured I'd eventually replace if needed but I haven't felt like I had to yet...?)

Timid Chaundelure @ Scarf
Flame Body
>Flamethrower
>Shadow Ball
>Energy Ball
>Memento

Thoughts? I usually sweep pretty easily with Mega Kang unless a fighting type leads

How do you scout Red? I've beaten him in Singles and Super Singles but haven't seen the option to scout him.

>run the exact Pokemon in the OP
>rape face through 15 battles with Dragonite alone
>16 is a mono-Ice Weavile, Ninetales, and Avalugg team
>Sheer Cold and Avalanche, Sheer Cold and Avalanche everywhere

>>30712428
You can't scout the Battle Legends, which means no Red and Blue.If you see him scouted, he was just hacked.

>>30712874
I should've realized that's what >>30700328 was getting at.

>>30712874
Can you not scout Cynthia then? I could swear I saw the player fighting alongside her in one of the trailers, but maybe I'm just being dumb.

>>30713191
I don't think Cynthia is a Battle Legend. Wally isn't.

>>30713191
I scouted Cynthia, so it's possible.

>>30713191
Only Red and Blue have the title Battle Legend. Everyone else is just Pokemon Trainer.

>>30713314
>>30713410
>>30713421
Oh cool, I haven't gotten too far in it yet so I was hoping you could scout her.

so i'm thinking

Mimikyu @ Red Card/Life Orb
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Nature Jolly/Adamant
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Shadow Claw
- Facade/Shadow Sneak

Garchomp (havent thought of a set)

Marowak (also no set yet)


is 2 ghost types too much?

>>30713744
Swap Facade/Shadow Sneak for Leech Life

At 80 power, even if it's not Stab, if you are lacking HP by the second mon coming out, you can use it to bulk yourself back up. Use Life orb on Mimi

You probably want something bulky in Marowaks place

>>30713811
good point. I'm an idiot and i didnt Synchronize/SR my UB's or Guardians so i can't run those. Is Mudsdale good for BT?

>>30713862
Well, I ran Mimiky/Togekiss/And a shitty main game Mudsdale that wasn;t trained, and I got though regular singles just fine with it

I may have gotten lucky. However, I only got to 9 wins in Super Singles...mainly because Plumeria kicked my ass with a Nasty Plotx2+focus sashed Salazzle

So, maybe? It was more useful than I expected to be

>>30713744
This except without the marowak, still thinking about the 3rd mon

Does affection bonuses count in the tree?

Also I'm using Kartana and Megamence and its working great, but I'd like a third.
Is Chandelure or Hydreigon or good there?

>>30713943
>Does affection bonuses count in the tree?

No, that'd make the Battle Tree a cakewalk.

>>30713943
I'd recommend Chandelure over Hydreigon for the first two, for typing reasons. Kartana and MegaMance are also plenty fast.

>>30713984
9/10 I only need Kartana, but I wanted something special to conver my bases

I was thinking maybe modest specs Chandelure

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>lose at battle 42 in multis

I finally managed to get 50 wins in Super Singles. Now...what's a good team for Doubles?

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>>30714070
tapu koko/pelipper and scarfed xurkitree for lolthunder

>>30700328
Gen 2 red is helping you fight gen 1 red in all his gen wunner ways,

>>30713943

Nope, affection doesn't affact facilities or multiplayer. It's purely for over world exploring bros.

>>30714070
What team?

Is it even possible to get a 50 streak in multi if you have an AI partner

>>30710254
Try A-Marowak for your fourth, and pair him with top kek since he absorbs discharges like a champ thanks to lightningrod

>>30715110
Yeah it is. I got myself a lead Scarf Eruption Entei partner just today, which was who I used to beat the Maison's Super Multi in both X and OR by pairing it with my Mega Charizard Y.

I'll figure out who to contribute in lieu of it, but you basically want AI partners with Choiced mons so they're more controlled in what they do.

So here's my team at the moment:

Xurkitree @ Salac Berry
Timid Nature
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Thunderbolt
Energy Ball
Dazzling Gleam
Tail Glow

Greninja @ Waterium Z
Timid Nature
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Water Shuriken
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Dark Pulse

Kartana @ Life Orb
Adamant Nature
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Leaf Blade
Smart Strike
Night Slash
Sacred Sword

I got to 19 wins before losing to Grimsley (>>30709289 was my post, I said this earlier), and the way I see this, I'm either dropping Kartana or replacing its Life Orb with a Focus Sash, because if I get put in the same situation again, I want to have a chance. Xurkitree has been doing great with Tail Glow sweeping, and Greninja is a great revenge-killer, so if Kartana goes, another physical attacker is taking its place.

>>30716469
The problem with your team is it's too offensive and fragile. Just wait till you get to the mid-20s when they start using Megas. I fought a Mega Aero with Fire Fang that came to mind when I saw your composition.

Bulky setup sweepers that cover each other and one offensive revenge killer is the way to go. Or in a similar vein, one big attacker to plow through things, and two switch-ins in the back that covers as much ground as possible.

I'm >>30700497 for the record. Drampa was CM Roost and Mega Scizor was SD Roost. Scarf Lele was in the back and helped me handle things like Blaziken.

Dragon + Steel + Fairy is a very solid core.

>>30716880
>Drampa
>Roost

What the fuck? Drampa gets fucking Roost?

>>30716981
Yeah and it's great. While setting up CM you can let them get you a little bit low so you get into Berserk range before healing up, or just spam Roost as they damage you with moves that do ~50% to get free Berserk boosts.

>>30717050
Jesus Christ.

That's destructive as fuck. What? Why isn't Drampa getting any love? That's a god damn awesome combo, I'm gonna raise one tomorrow.

How the fuck do you hear different music for special trainers like Anabels theme or Colress' theme? Im on a 61 streak and ive been switching the music around but it stays thr same unless I change it. Only time it changed was fighting Red.

>>30717133
i'm also on board for this. drampa is underrated as fuck

>>30717158
drampa killed my streak going to fucking 100
I both respect and hate the old fart
rip my 90 battle streak

>>30716981
Drampa gets damn near everything.

>>30717190
f

>>30716880
>Dragon-Steel-Fairy core

So I'm thinking Drampa, Celesteela, and Mimikyu
Or should I swap Mimikyu for something with more longevity?

>>30717133
6v6/Smogon is too fast-paced for it at the moment with things everywhere that can stop it from setting up. It is appreciated in VGC since it's great in Trick Room (I remember seeing that Torkoal team use it).

The Battle Tree is where it can especially shine, since it's not like its predictability matters there. I wanted to use it for fun and just built around it when I was deciding how to start my team, and it worked out well.

I need a Modest Tapu Fini to complete my team if anyone would like to trade or such.

>>30717297
Yeah something with more longevity. One of the mons that gave me a good deal of trouble was Red's Mega Charizard Y, since it packs both Heat Wave and Focus Blast, so I was glad I had Lele. Wally's Analytic Magnezone can also dismantle the core if Drampa's not out and you end up switching it into a Flash Cannon, which is why I had put Brick Break on my Scizor. I'm sure other NPCs can run them too, so just think about mons that can break your team 2 at a time.

>>30716880
I'll take this advice into consideration. I'll keep Greninja as it fills the revenge killer role just fine. Kartana is definitely frail, and not because of it's typing. Xurkitree does fine, but I could probably do better. With all the shit I'm hearing about Drampa, I might get one now. Out of curiosity, how does it do even with its abysmal speed stat?

I managed to fight Red and fucked me over with his charizard and fire fang. I went with mimikyu, buzzwole and bamboo rocket

>>30717505
Its speed doesn't really matter. The mon it's up against matters, since you need to know if a coverage move (or if it outright has the type advantage to Drampa) will push Drampa too low to heal up from or kill.

Regular Draco can kill most average defense mons (think Mega Manectric in terms of bulk), but I CM up when I can to sweep if possible. If something physically threatening to Drampa would come out, I just switch.

Draco, Flamethrower, CM, Roost with Leftovers

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My team was a timid Nihilego (252 Sp a 252 spe) with focus sash setting up stealth rocks and toxic spikes with the occasional beast boost sweeps but mostly suicide, then a modest Porygon-Z (252 sp a 252 spe) with normalium z boasting thunderbolt, ice beam, HP ground, and NZ boosted conversion (godlike) that usually did everything for me
For my last mon I have Tapu Fini using it's double edged sword of misty terrain for when I need a wall, don't remember it's stats but modest with 252 sp. a and bulky stats with leftovers. Disregards the hazards but worth it for tanking

Haven't lost a battle

Thoughts?

>>30717689
"Haven't lost a battle" isn't telling without what streak you hit.

>>30717747
Have gotten to 200.

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>>30717799
proof my dude, you can't just bolster a claim like that without any proof

>>30717904
Dont have my 3ds with me but it's alright, you don't have to believe me. Was just asking what y'all thought of the team.

>>30717799
>>30717904
Yeah I'm tempted to call bullshit since his team only has Special Attackers, but I don't see what you could possibly gain by lying to anonymous people on the internet.

Then again, he is a namefag.

>>30717904
What the tits is that shadow abyss hell demon behind records-chan?!?

>>30717689
>>30717747
>>30717799
>>30717904
>>30717948
>>30717961


Sometimes I replaced the Tapu Fini with an adamant 252 attack 240 Hp 16 sp def Marowak with thick club, with flare blitz, bonemerang, shadow bone and will o wisp.

>>30718060
Pomf pls go

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I keep making dumb plays and losing around mid-late 30's.

My current team; any suggestions? Kinda bummed about the attack IV on celesteela but it's the best one I could find. Don't really feel like grinding it another 30 levels right now either.

Tapu Koko @ Life Orb
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: hp and def arent quite perfect
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Dazzling Gleam
- Grass Knot

Celesteela @ Lum Berry
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
IVs: 12 Atk
- Heavy Slam
- Acrobatics
- Autotomize
- Earthquake

Golisopod @ Assault Vest
Ability: Emergency Exit
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Liquidation
- Leech Life
- Aqua Jet
- First Impression

I'm gonna try going through Multis with
M-Gengar and M-Metagross leads.

How bad am I gonna get fucked?

>>30717993
Ok thanks for confirming you're a compulsive liar by revising your story. Go seek validation elsewhere.

>>30718060
He also hasn't fixed the Aguav/Figy Berries. Nor has Bulbapedia.

>>30718112
Assuming the metagross is Colress I hope you didn't get the explosion set.

>>30718112
>Mamoswine goes first thanks to its Quick Claw

>>30718121
>compulsive liar

I'm just biting the bait but legit all I was asking was if there could be improvements to the team

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>>30718153
252+ Atk Mamoswine Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Metagross-Mega: 102-120 (65.8 - 77.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

And hopefully the Metagross uses Meteor Mash on it.

I have Hydreigon as my second mon. Since it can come in on all of M-Gengar's weaknesses. It's also a great partner for Metagross.

>>30718144
Pic related

>>30718112
Status will fuck your lead over. Will o wisp or Twave your ass. Bring something that can deal with it or lead with something else.

>>30718226
I've never had a problem with running hyper offensive in the Battle Tree.

Kartana, MegaMence, and Greninja got me through singles.

A-Ninetales, Porygon-Z, Megamence, and Scarfchomp got me through doubles.

Status doesn't seem really prevalent. I really only see confusion get thrown around, and that got nerfed anyway.

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>>30718153
>Gengar's Cursed Body disabled Mamoswine's earthquake!

>Switch out Mudsdale against a gigalith that used rock blast on it.

DELICIOUS STAMINA STACKS.

>>30718295
I like to deal with status because of consistency. Sure Hyper offensive can do stuff real quick but a simple lum berry can go a long way as I prefer consistency. Twave hax, confusion on a swords dancer, swagger all are scary things that can really screw up a run and the ai can give choice scarf / quick claw just to status. It also nets free boosts as I usually give it to a set up sweeper and that's usually enough to sweep most teams.

Other options to deal with status would be poison heal but gliscor isn't available sadly. Otherwise gliscor + toxapex stall would be insanely consistent.

Honestly I haven't run pure choice offense with no setup but the current mons with their huge polarizing stats makes it seem viable for long runs this gen.

>>30700328
Holy shit I never knew excadrill was that small, his BW sprite made him look like he was the size of snorlax

>>30700328
Does he really have an alolan raichu?
can´t find any info about red having espeon or alolan raichu on serebii or bulbapedia

I hate the tree so fucking much. I don't want to deal with this shit until Pokebank is released, but I also want to unlock more things.

There is no happiness to be found.

>>30718223
Replace meteor mash with earthquake for mega metagross or another coverage move. Saved my sorry ass when I had it.
Tough claws + bullet punch is good enough for fairies.
90% accuraccy is bulllshit and metagross should've gotten psychic fangs/10.

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Tfw no Anabel
Cynthia is fine too

>>30718880
That's the AIs Metagross, not mine.

Anyone knows if the AI will switch out a pokemon encored on a non effective move?, like a water absorb poliwrath encoring a water move, I used to cheese the maison like this but trainers seemed more prone to switching if they didn't have a single effective move on me like Cynthia switching her Milotic out of my Toxapex

>>30719759
I noticed the trainers also switch sometimes if I lower their stats enough

I led with two Intimidate users and sometimes they'd just switch turn 1

With A-Ninetales for Aurora Veil and Tail Glow Xurkitree, what would be a good third mon for super singles? I was thinking Scarfchomp, Buzzwole, M-Kanghaskhan, M-Pinsir etc.

>LITERALLY BOTH OF MY FUCKING POKEMON WERE FLINCHED BY ROCK SLIDE IN A DOUBLE BATTLE, CAUSING ME TO LOSE.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Is Lycanroc Midnight good for Battle Tree?

running through doubles tree with politoed/golduck/alo-muk/magnezone. just using some of my vgc team that i got in game, hence the golduck instead of something like kingdra. beat the first 20 pretty easily, time to run up the super ladder.

>>30720044
It's alright. It's a good lead to clear things with. Life Orb No Guard Stone Edge is nice with the potential backup by Swords Dance.

Be sure to have something for Rock resists (Fighting, Ground, Steel). Fire Fang only goes so far for Steel.

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>>30700046
I almost never see multi battle discussion in this thread, but that's the last one I have to do for the stamp. Anyone know of two good pokemon to use when blowing through this mode?

I've got a Pheromosa, Tapu Lele, Celesteela, and Salamence I used to get through the other two, but I'm not really adverse to using something else if it works better.

>>30721846
Oranguru + an earthquaker. Mamoswine is nice.

>>30721908
Wouldn't the Organguru be wasted since only one of your pokemon is on the screen at once? Or are you suggesting I scout an earthquaker?

>>30722043
Oh, multi battles. I thought you were writing about double battles.

>>30718616
That Red is hacked, anon

>>30717799
I bet 10 dollarinos you saved scummed :^)

>>30722069
Yeah, I already cleared double battles fairly handily.

Mimikyu gets quick wins and should always run Adamant @Life Orb with Swords Dance/Play Rough/Shadow Sneak/Shadow Claw. Ditch Leech Life at all costs.

It gets increasingly difficult to set up SD, and Play Rough with 90% accuracy can be a gamble, so the reliability of Shadow Claw is needed, with Shadow Sneak providing good cleanup on faster mons.

People complain about Megas in the tree, and one LO boosted Shadow Claw tends to put a huge dent in just one turn or outright KO things like Charizard and Metagross.

Run Shadow Claw.

>>30722616
>Run Shadow Claw.
But wood hammer, pain split and leech life look so nice!!!!!11

>>30700328
... How do you hack him in?

>>30704522
Adamant
72 HP 252 Atk 180 Spd
Dragon Dance
Substitute
Roost/Earthquake
Double Edge/Return

mega mence has enough natural physical bulk that even netural phyisical hits don't even break its sub

>>30711218
Strength sap is a ridiculous full heal that lowers attack.

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Current Super Singles team: Mimikyu, Toxapex, M.Kangaskhan (used to be Bewear, ended streak at 48. I like running only new Pokemon in battle trees, but now I'm over it)

I rarely have to bring out Toxapex, but when I do the toxic stall gets the job done. Toxapex's set also easily beats other walls (outside of obscure chesto resto boost sets with Earthquake...thanks Swampert). Kangaskhan's Fake Out on a poisoned enemy is way better than I thought it would be.

I enjoyed Bewear for his random physical bulk vs contact moves and his Z fighting move, but his speed + lack of priority became a prob.

I would recommend this team for sure, especially if you don't want to use Ultra Beasts. Minimal need to first-turn switch, Mimikyu is a better suicide lead than actual suicide leads, stall, and superb cleanup.

What's the point of them adding Colress' theme if you can never hear it.

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What pisses me of the most about Battle Tree is that even when the AI is completely retarded they can still manage to win.

What are some good teammates for a shell smash minior? Either for singles or doubles.

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>Battle tree Bullshit mode
>No item restriction
>Can use the same Pokemon
>legendaries allowed
>Opponents use legendaries
Mega Fug would still destroy everything but eh.

>Alola "Champion"
>Doesn't use Alola mons
Shame on you all

>>30727059
but WE WUZ KANTO and shitz

Celesteela with Assault Vest
Mega Garchomp
Buzzwole

Got to Super Singles 134 (took a break).

>>30727059
But I use Golisopod and Mimikyu

>>30724729
Minior, Tapu Koko and Marowak would be good on singles.

Finally found a use for this thing, clanging scales is a 100acc 110bp split attack. Very useful in multi battles where you have to team up with a retarded AI because you can reliably 2HKO almost any lead combination with it, then usually survive to get a third one off and soften up the second pokes of your opponents regardless of what your retarded AI buddy does to you.

Can someone help recommend a mon for my last spot?

Tapu Koko @ Terrain Extender
Timid 252SpA/4SpD/252Spe
Thunderbolt
Dazzling Gleam
Grass Knot
U-Turn

Celesteela @ Leftovers
Adamant 84HP/252Atk/172Spe
Automize
Heavy Slam
EQ
Seed Bomb

Tapu Koko and Celesteela are a match made in heaven that for 90% of the matches I can get by with just one or the other, but when they don't work out my third Pokemon has a tendency to fail me. I've tried both A-Raichu (fast and strong but frail and the fact that it lacks Surf really makes its Psychic the only reason to keep it around) and Bewear (nice and bulky but a little too slow)

>>30727279
Toxapex @ Black Sludge

>>30701728
>>30706779
Ended up getting to 70 wins. Lost to a fucking Moltress on a team that had at least 2 legendaries.
Wishiwashi was: hydro pump, ice beam, earthquake, u-turn quiet nature
Mimikyu: swords dance, shadow claw, shadow sneak, play rough jolly nature
Buzzwole: leech life, earthquake, stone edge, superpower adamant nature.

>>30727203
Any recommended marowak set?

>>30716469 here, I'm taking >>30716880 advice and am building a team that isn't frail as all hell. Kartana is getting dropped, and I'm replacing Greninja with Tapu Lele as a revenge killer. Xurkitree may or may not be getting the boot as well, but I'm not sure of what would take its place right now, but does anyone have any suggestions for bulky Pokemon? Any mixed attackers?

>>30727382
Marowak @ Thick Club
Adamant 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Shadow Bone
Bonemarang
Flare Blitz
Will O Wisp

I've been using this one

I been using Pheromosa with Expert Belt, Ash-Greninja with Life Orb and Nihilego with Black Sludge.

Made it to 37 wins my first go in Super Singles. Z-Hypnosis wrecked my shit.

For people who use the ninetales/porygonz combo, what moveset for the ninetales? Aurora Veil, Moonblast, Blizzard/Freeze Dry and what else?