Would it still be equal to Primal Kyogre?
>>30676719
It's already the better Primal
>>30676719
>equal to Primal Kyogre
It's already leagues better than Kyogre, and good thing too, it keeps the tradition that the first version legendary is more viable than the cuckold noncanon second version.
>>30676719
If you mean "replace Precipice Blades with Solar Blade" then maybe, but you need a good nerf for that.
>>30676719
It's literally a thousand times better than primal kyogre if you haven't existed for the last three years
>>30676767
Lugia, Lunala and Zekrom are better than their counterparts
>>30676912
>lugia
debatable
>lunala
Also debatable but it looks like Lunala's winning
>Zekrom
100%. For reshiram, wasting away in D rank.
>>30676767
>keeps the tradition that the first version legendary is more viable than the cuckold noncanon second version.
Uhuh
>>30676955
Zekrom's advantage is that his Kyurem fusion has a shit movepool where as Kyurem-W is purely a better Reshiram.
>>30676912
>>30676960
>implying Moon isn't the canon version
>>30676912
Xerneas. Also wasn't Ho-oh much better in ORAS ubers?
>>30676955
what does solgaleo even do other than checking xerneas?
>>30676912
No way is lugia better than ho-oh. Banded sacred fire is just too good. They do different things, but ho-oh does its nuke thing better than lugia does its stall thing.
>>30677000
>Reading comprehension is hard
Moon isn't the first version. If it is "canon" or not doesn't matter
>>30676995
Kyurem aside, Zekrom has a unique STAB combination that hits everything but Primal Groudon hard and sits at a decent ranking.
>>30677019
I think they're talking about it in terms of ubers viability rather than comparing their sweeping capabilities.
>>30676870
> It started to rain
>>30677017
Lunala is outclassed by every offensive Psychic and Ghost in the tier, at least Solgaleo does it's job pretty well.
>>30677085
And then it gets 2HKOed by 0 Atk Precipice blades after sneaky pebbles and can't switch in again
>>30677122
Origin Pulse. Hell, Waterfall would OHKO Groudon without investments under normal weather.
>>30677060
>I think they're talking about it in terms of ubers viability rather than comparing their sweeping capabilities.
Ho-oh is still more viable than Lugia.
Nice try, furfags.
Ho-oh WON.
>>30677192
>lugia
>furry
>>30677192
0 Atk Kyogre-Primal Waterfall vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Groudon-Primal: 328-388 (81.3 - 96.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
uh huh
>>30677000
I wish anon, but fatshitsunlion is the canon nebby
>>30676912
>lugia
nope
>lunala
both are shit
>zekrom
only because kyurem-white exists
Ho-oh > Lugia
Groudon > Kyogre
Dialga > Palkia
Reshiram < Zekrom
Black Kyurem < White Kyurem
Xerneas > Yveltal
Solgaleo < Lunala
So, first version legends are typically better. Second versions still beat them with Gens V and VII.
>>30677264
>Under normal Weather and using a Modest Nature Kyogre
0- Atk Kyogre-Primal Waterfall vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Groudon-Primal: 436-520 (108.1 - 129%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>>30677389
Well shit. Wrong calculations.
>>30677090
>Lunala is outclassed by every offensive Psychic and Ghost in the tier
It's funny how wrong you are.
>>30676767
>676767
Anyway, like other anons said, +they forgot xerneas geomancy fucking everything, meanwhile yveltal does... what?
>>30678770
Hit fucking hard with one of the most busted priority attacks in the game and just became more viable now that Darkrai fucked off in a corner
>>30676767
Except White is more canon than Black
Most non-game depictions of N give him Reshiram
>>30677335
>Dialga > Palkia
Both are shit.
>>30677537
>gives no proof of said statement
Kek. KEK.
>>30679708
It also has Foul Play and Oblivion Wing, Xerneas is better since Geomancy is busted but it's a one trick pony. Also, why didn't Darkrai drop, Genesect is now better than it and it dropped
>>30681128
Couldn't tell you about Genesect, but Darkrai's still busted as it still has ways of fucking with its counters (such as Taunt, Will-o-Wisp or coverage attacks outside of Sludge Bomb) and unlike Greninja it doesn't need a gimmick ability to hit harder and faster right off the bat.
>>30676912
Zekrom is the canon legendary
>>30680818
It shouldn't need explaining.
She hits hard through high special attack, excellent coverage due to good special movepool, good bulk especially if you manage to use Shadow Shield and can handle anything other than bulky Yveltal and Arceus Dark. Great scarf user too due to ignoring Extreme Speed.
>>30681310
I always forget it gets good status moves due to its stat distribution. I've always wondered if Spacial Rend was any good on it, since I have a Timid event one in my Pearl cart