ACTUAL OFFICIAL POKEBANK OU USAGE STATS

| 26 | Greninja | 7.48746% | 65723 | 6.722% | 48416 | 6.655% |
| 27 | Metagross-Mega | 7.31705% | 57914 | 5.923% | 42446 | 5.834% |
| 28 | Chansey | 7.04993% | 39149 | 4.004% | 28895 | 3.972% |
| 29 | Xurkitree | 6.93947% | 85452 | 8.740% | 61919 | 8.511% |
| 30 | Charizard-Mega-X | 6.79198% | 56341 | 5.762% | 41186 | 5.661% |
| 31 | Excadrill | 6.70391% | 49131 | 5.025% | 35914 | 4.936% |
| 32 | Kartana | 6.68378% | 77062 | 7.882% | 53209 | 7.314% |
| 33 | Rotom-Wash | 6.43566% | 48578 | 4.968% | 40392 | 5.552% |
| 34 | Clefable | 6.10793% | 41240 | 4.218% | 28500 | 3.917% |
| 35 | Porygon-Z | 5.95988% | 42693 | 4.366% | 29487 | 4.053% |
| 36 | Mimikyu | 5.90094% | 68661 | 7.022% | 48339 | 6.644% |
| 37 | Bisharp | 5.86784% | 28087 | 2.873% | 19379 | 2.664% |
| 38 | Sableye-Mega | 5.65683% | 28274 | 2.892% | 24106 | 3.313% |
| 39 | Pelipper | 5.61340% | 68896 | 7.046% | 62428 | 8.581% |
| 40 | Manaphy | 5.10984% | 21566 | 2.206% | 15343 | 2.109% |
| 41 | Pinsir-Mega | 5.08017% | 38341 | 3.921% | 25449 | 3.498% |
| 42 | Gyarados-Mega | 4.86991% | 28785 | 2.944% | 21133 | 2.905% |
| 43 | Magnezone | 4.49065% | 39920 | 4.083% | 31244 | 4.295% |
| 44 | Alakazam-Mega | 4.47728% | 42012 | 4.297% | 27290 | 3.751% |
| 45 | Nihilego | 4.16441% | 41058 | 4.199% | 32252 | 4.433% |
| 46 | Zapdos | 4.13918% | 22145 | 2.265% | 17388 | 2.390% |
| 47 | Kingdra | 4.07374% | 45213 | 4.624% | 33038 | 4.541% |
| 48 | Mandibuzz | 3.88112% | 23682 | 2.422% | 17998 | 2.474% |
| 49 | Greninja-Ash | 3.77764% | 67136 | 6.866% | 50228 | 6.904% |
| 50 | Tyranitar | 3.57611% | 35766 | 3.658% | 27936 | 3.840% |
| 51 | Hippowdon | 3.49224% | 34638 | 3.543% | 29024 | 3.989% |

>>30626974
You forgot decidueye, op

w-where's sharpedo?

>>30627020
>implying that edgebird deserves to be in OU
Apply noose to neck plz

>>30627030
>| 89 | Sharpedo-Mega | 1.01392% | 8191 | 0.838% | 5389 | 0.741% |
That's something, right?

>smogon

who cares about unofficial rankings and ratings?

you're literally playing a fan-game

>aegislash banned a few weeks ago
>still the most used in the tier by a significant margin
And people say that he wasn't that bad. Fucking kek.

>>30626974
>>30626978
>>30627057
>Removing Decidueye
Your tears are delicious, faggot.

mantine? why?

>>30626974
why do regular alola pokemon suck so much

>>30627068
>banned halfway in
>still 30%
That is the definition of cancer.
>>30627104
>| 71 | Decidueye | 1.64315% | 61627 | 6.303% | 44721 | 6.147% |
What?

>>30627063
The people who play said unofficial ratings

>>30626978
>>30626978
>Tyranitar that low

>>30627111
how slow are you

>>30627063
Who cares about Pokemon? You're literally just playing a game.

>>30626974
>sun fags btfo

>>30627063
I don't want to play in a meta where Megamence exists.

>>30627134
>too casual to counter megamence

stay in smogon fangame

>>30627063

VGC is shit

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>>30627117
>1.64315%
>OU

>>30627063
it's a fun fan-game
better than the official game
like am2r

>>30627104
Look at this delusional faggot. He thinks that Decidueye is any good in the actual competitive metagame

>>30627145
I just posted the actual usage.
You know, to show OP isn't being a faggot this time.

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>>30626974
>a list filled with legendaries, pseudo-legendaries, UB's, and mega versions of previously OU Pokemon, along with the occasional bulky water or fairy type

w o w

what a healthy meta

>>30626974
>Ribombee is NU
I am sad

>>30626974
>Lando-T still at #4
>Regular ground genie at #6

Fuck that thing, why didn't GF nerf it like they did to Talonflame? It was a cancer to VGC15, so its not like they couldn't have noticed it.

>>30627139
>counter
>Megamence

That thing can live an Ice Punch from fucking Mega Medicham.

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>>30627166
Senpai...

Has there been any mention if they're going to drop shit like Mega Kang and Megamence from Ubers for testing? Their nerfs and new threats might change things up.

Someone hurry up and make a visual list.

>>30627113
>What is Mimikyu
>What is Toxapex

>>30627145
He's not saying it's OU, he's telling that moron claiming meme owl was "removed" that it was too low to be OU.

>>30627196
And?
I just said that OP didn't remove Decidueye, not that it was OU.

>>30627134
>I don't want tp play in a meta where Megamence exists.
I got very good news for you.

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>>30627253
>>30627258
Whoops.

>>30627122
EXPLAIN THIS

>All Topus in top 12
>Aegislash to Uber removes a Lele and Bulu threat

Good going GF, you made a new set of sub-legends that will rule the game.

>>30627063
>smogon
This is just a list of which Pokemon are being used the most in a competitive format.

>>30627245
Mimikyu is bad.

>>30627284
+HP
+Roost
= Wet Skarmory

>>30627296
>sub 1695 shitter detected

>>30627223
Kangaskhan might drop. Lucario and Salamence are gonna stay up there though. I'm not sure about Mawile, that could go either way.

>>30627063
The official game offers no competitive support whatsoever for singles.

Rated Battle Spot is not a good format, 90% of matches are decided on team preview and picks, no actual strategy or skill.

>>30627171
This, it's embarrassing

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>>30627334
>actual strategy or skill.
>OU

>>30627327
Mawile can't drop. No Mega stone in Sun and Moon.

>>30627285
Been that way since Gen V. Game Freak stopped giving the trios ass typings and abilities.

>>30627063
A fan-game that allows me to play Pokemon online for free.

Enjoy your battle spot with your official tiers.

>>30626974
>| 4 | Landorus-Therian | 18.73396% | 110446 | 11.296% | 93666 | 12.875% |
>| 6 | Landorus | 17.51109% | 99961 | 10.224% | 76187 | 10.472% |

Remove genies. Kill Landorus already.

>>30627312
>Noob struggling to get past 1200 elo on the ladder detected

>>30627171
Hey, it's not Smogon's fault that the majority of new Pokemon introduced (sans legendaries) are slow, mixed attackers with mediocre defenses and shallow movepools.

>>30627348
Having 5 options for switching versus 2 opens up a huge deck of possibilities and offers a lot more room for the possibility of good and bad decisions even existing, as opposed to the single obvious decisions in 3x3 singles, where your fate is most likely set as soon as you pick your 3 Pokemon.

>>30627378
these usage stats are literally based on 1695 elo though

git gud

>>30627372
And if you combine their usage, Landorus is #1 in the tier.

Unfortunately, if they didn't boot it to Uber in Gen 5 or 6, they ain't booting it now.

>>30627312
He's right tho

>90 | Primarina | 1.00832% | 28155 | 2.880% | 20418 | 2.807%

not bad at all

>shitty autistic group post about their boring single battles.

You faggots are like less than 1% of the pokemon community and will never compare to the superior and accepted vgc doubles.

Nobody cares about your format except for you so fuck outta here and keep it off vp

>>30627451
Hi verlis

>>30626974
Mantine?

>>30627451
Fuck off Verlisify

>>30627461
Nice meme faggotboi but that dog fucker should fuck off also.

Fuck outta here autists

>>30627474
He got buffed, more HP and access to Roost. Might just be new toy syndrome though.

>>30627451
>You faggots are (...) of the pokemon community

Seems like /vp/ is the right place.
>>30627490
F
>| 127 | Talonflame | 0.54804% | 11286 | 1.154% | 7932 | 1.090% |

>>30627451
Why would I play doubles when my favorite mon isn't good there?

>>30627490
I miss him so much. I wished i could use you as i could in gen 6.

At least Ash-Greninja is OU. Probably more people will use it when the meta stablized

>>30626974
>>30626974
>I 149 I Incineroar
>I 90 I Primarina
>I 71 I Decidueye
DECIDUEYE CONFIRMED BEST ALOLA STARTER. INCINEROARFAGS BTFO

>>30627520
>127
Damn. I knew this would hurt, but I thought some people would still try to use it off the natural 126 speed and initial flying move.

Still has more usage than Staraptor though.

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>>30626974
>Char-Y won't be OU
O-okay

>>30627451
Hey, Decidushit is even worse in doubles.

Don't even try it haha

>>30627688
There is some pretty crazy stuff in uu right now.

Gliscor, Dragonite, Zard-Y, Azumarill, Keldeo, Weavile, Zygarde-10%, Kyurem-Black, Volcarona, Breloom, Diggersby, Scolipede, Serperior, Volcanion, Thundurus, Tornadus-T

>>30627490
>tapus and ubs all over the place
The hero we need but don't deserve ;_;7

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>>30627722
>Serp
>Scoli
>Zard-Y
Man, might as well start playing UU

>>30627722
Scizor is there too, and it might actually stay.

>>30627722
>Volcanion and Gliscor are UU now
I DON'T REGRET ABANDONING OU ! These two plus Mega Lop were the sole reason why I was even playing OU to begin with.
Also, where's Lopunny ? I can't seem to find it.

>>30627722
Just when my bro could have been UU. Fuck.

>>30627722
So UU is just the new OU and OU is just Ubers lite?

>>30627722
>cancer falling to UU
You can keep them thanks

>>30627820
I wonder if UU players will start playing RU instead.

>| 23 | Skarmory | 7.72845% | 52155 | 5.334% | 42503 | 5.842% |
>| 24 | Mantine | 7.62834% | 53199 | 5.441% | 41608 | 5.719% |
They are finally together, this is beautiful.

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>>30627722
>Serperior and Weavile are now UU
I..I can't believe this is happening. I was expecting Scizor to drop cause Lele, but nor Weavile !
Also, now there's officially no OU Grass starters. Which is fine honestly, can't wait to use all of them.

>>30627897
>| 25 | Venusaur-Mega | 7.50924% | 47185 | 4.826% | 35835 | 4.926% |

>>30627812
lopunny is one of the cucked unreleased megas

it's back to being a pu shitmon now

>>30627113
ASLOWLA STRONG!
Surprised there wasn't Alolan Slowbro with 200 base speed or something, would've been hilarious.

>>30627063
Some people have been playing Pokemon for longer than 2 gens and like playing 6v6 instead of 3v3 or 4v4. You newcomers can stick to your official meta and eat up whatever some sweaty Jap decides.

>>30627910
>mega

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>| 50 | Tyranitar | 3.57611% | 35766 | 3.658% | 27936 | 3.840% |

only a little more and tyranitar drops out of

>>30627897
Funny thing is Mega Scizor is the most used mega by far. Then again, it's not like there's much variety since you can't use stuff like Diancie or Lopunny.

>>30627938
>D-doesn't c-c-count!

It's a starter that's Grass

>>30627722

Gliscor, Volc, Diggers have been UU before.

>>30627722
Just new toy syndrome they will rise when people start caring about UU/older pokemon

>>30627916
Oh well, guess we're gonna now have to wait for those Mega Stone distributions. It's gonna be hard cause it's been my ace all throughout last year's meta. Or just wait for Stars or however they're gonna call that game.

>>30627722
>Breloom
I told you all he was dropping
>Azumarill
>Tornadus-T
>Gliscor
What the fuggg.

>>30627949
venusaur can still be used in lower tiers

>>30627820

X/Y UU was already B/W OU.

>>30627999
And Mega Venasaur is still a Grass starter. You're not making a point

>>30627992
Don't worry, it'll be available on DP remakes

>>30626974
>Gengar is dead

...A-at least it'll make a splash in UU, r-right guys? Right?

>>30628001
Powercreep is a crazy thing.

>>30627973
Kyurem, Keldeo and Azumarill are obviously gonna get banned, not sure if OU again cause Koko is now runnig OU or just put them in BL.

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Tapu Fini is seeing a lot more play than I expected.

What sort of sets are being run on Tapu Fini that makes her so popular?

This list removes all doubt that singles are inferior to doubles in every way

>>30627187
How can it be THAT bad

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To everyone surprised at all the drops, just remember pic related dropped from OU to NU in the span of one generation

>>30628090
Utility sets because she has access to taunt, haze, defog.

>>30628024
autist

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>mantine and skarmory are finally equal

what a time to be alive

is mantine actually OU material or just high in usage because of people trying out the new buffs

>>30627310

How can it be OU with all the Electric threats? Is it because they're all going to be banned soon?

>>30628093

Nigger doubles lets you use primal legendaries

>>30627171
i mean the list has more than 7 pokemon so its already more varied than VGC

>>30627063
You mean like how people played a fan game enough that it became its own game that gets yearly 10 million dollar tournaments?

>>30628189
I'm pretty sure anyone with 1650+ ELO will take care of those before sending Seawall in.

And you said that Mimikyu would be RU at best.

>>30628189

X/Y had plenty of electric attacks if not STAB and Skarmory did fine. The amount of physical electric attacks is far lower and you don't switch Skarmory in one specials anyway. If it's a SpD Skarm then obviously you switch out to Alolan Marowak or some shit.

I personally stopped using Skarmory and replaced with Celesteela but that thing also dies to electric types.

>>30627171
One of the main reasons I haven't touched OU since near the end of gen 5. I just hate all the pokemon there. At least in the lower formats I can use pokemon I like and have fun too.

>>30628202
What? No it doesn't

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>>30627884
Mantine just needed that extra push to make up for not being a Steel type.

Feels good man.

>>30628220
I mean, that poster or any of the replies brought up the VGC at all but your inferiority complex ass cannot even defend the OU shitshow so why not try to shift the subject, right? Pathetic.

>>30628285
VGC 2016 let you use primal groudon and kyogre

>OU will eventually become just Pseudos/Megas/Legendaries

I honestly think a no legends and no megas Meta would be great.

>>30628228
Bait.

>>30628254
But SKarmory can live. Mantine dies instantly to an Electric-type attack. Thats a big difference.

>>30628202
That was VGC16 rules only.
VGC17 is Alola dex only, no box legends/event legends, no Megas

>>30628308
>that poster or
*Neither that poster nor

>>30628328
>Bait.
How is that bait?

>>30628166
>spoiler
Bit of both, only time will tell if he can stay OU with monsters like Top Kek and Xurk running around.

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>>30627334
>singles

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>>30628328
>it's an "pokemon has weakness so it's shit" episode

>>30628323
Play UU. Almost every old school OU pokemon is there. It's way more fun.

>>30628308
the only reason attacking VGC isn't a "defense" is because it's a joke format and nobody cares when you attack a joke format

>mega Zard is UU
>Weavile is UU
>Scizor is UU
>Lati@s UU
>Metagross 0.10% usage likely RU

>>30628378
I already do. It is so much healthier.

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>>30628378
>Gyarados and Feraligatr in the same tier.
>Conkeldur and Machamp in the same tier.
It's a good tier fosho.

>>30628308

What other possible format could you be playing? VGC and Showdown are the only ones that matter. Battle Spot? LOL

>>30628189
It can't be trapped by these electric threats unlike Skarm. It nullifies Scald spam and while Electrics are strong right now, Alolan Marowak is a great anti-Electric tool. Pair Mantine with Alolan Marowak and a bulky ground and you have a solid defensive core.

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>>30628166
Garchomp Mantine and marowaks a core im having fun with
>tfw favorite pokemon finally viable

>>30628383
Still has nothing to do with anything in that chain. Still shifting goalposts. OU still being garbage. I don't give a shit about your personal opinion on something unrelated. Go blog about how much you don't like the VGC in your smogon forum faggot.

>>30628454
>OU is garbage so I won't engage in any constructive discussions about it

The good players play all the formats.

>VGC thread
>Nobody goes there to start up arguments, nobody shits on each other.
>Smogon thread
>VGC kids start shitposting because people aren't playing their format.

>>30628427
>post talking about how OU is essentially Ubers in all but name
>reply with "LOL VGC SUCKS amirite guys?!"
Stop posting, retard.

>a mon with an 170 attack stat without a crappy ability handicap is now in UU

Jesus Christ

what tier is Miltank in

used to have loads of fun in >Battle Spot with my Rocky Helmet + Powerup Punch/Body Slam/Heal Bell/Milk Drink set

>>30628482
>>OU is garbage so I won't engage in any constructive discussions about it
So like the people that want to talk about how much VGC sucks instead of actually discussing OU itself?

>>30628558
That's what happens when you're relatively slow and are a physical ice type with no physical ice type moves worth a shit

Mantine is definitely just overhyped. It's never going to last in OU.

>>30628566
I think it's in NU.
It's still a fun as fuck mon to use, She's my favorite normal type.

>>30628527

I'm not the same person, idiot.

>>30628598
I can see it drop in usage but it will definitely orbit between UU and OU.

BASED MIMIKYU

>>30628558

Kyurem-B was always fucking UU before going to BL and then OU you fucking morons! Why the fuck are all you dipshits going "OH MAN DIGGERSBY IS IN UU?! BUT IT'S SO STRONG!" THESE THINGS WERE *ALREADY* IN UU

SALAMENCE NON MEGA WAS UBERS IN PREVIOUS GENS AND HAS BEEN UU FOREVER

>>30628558
When you don't have any physical Ice moves to abuse that superb Atk stats and now your former tier is the home of two of the most broken Fighting types in the game plus Fairies now everywhere, you are going to have a rough day.

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>Gengar is officially dead
To be fair, not sure how he would survive even WITH Levitate, seeing as one of the biggest Ground type threats is now fucking Zygarde and his arrows

Why are so many people bitching and moaning about their faves falling to UU? You know that OU isn't the only fucking tier right?

>>30628678
>two of the most broken Fighting types

Pheremosa and...Buzzwole? Kommo-o? What's the second one?

>>30628654
>being this mad over a kid's game
go to bed

>>30628112
That's because before Gen 5 they did usage calculations differently and didnt weigh them, pokemon like him, Smeargle, Ninjask, and Umbreon were absolute garbage and generally unviable in Gen 4 OU but got enough usage from low ladder to be put in OU.

Also the ladder back then was a lot easier than the ladder back now. The majority of people playing on Shoddy Battle in the DPP era were retarded kids.

What tier is Tsareena in?

>>30628713
>implying OU players should start playing UU

Hey retard, you know you can use UU mons in OU right? It doesn't even matter if a Pokemon is in UU. At this point it just means they are OU Pokemon that aren't picked that often. Pokemon jump from UU to OU all the time. Just recently it was Azelf, Zapdos, Kyurem-B, etc.

>>30628743

Hey shit for brains, you know that instead of using UU mons in OU... You can play UU?

>>30628728
>Also the ladder back then was a lot easier than the ladder back now

I was wondering why everyone's rating is 200 points lower nowadays, even at the very top.

>>30628767

Then you aren't allowed to use OU mons, you fucking dumbass. Have fun not using any of the good Alolan mons or half your team if you had OU shit on it but were just crying about your "bro" being UU.

>>30628715
Buzzwole obviously. There aren't really any Fighting types (now) in OU outside those two. Also
>T-Tar and Hippowdon are dangerously close to dropping
Yep, I love UB's, but they clearly were a big mistake.

>>30628593
Sub-Zero Slammer Kyurem is gud tho.

>>30628798
Who gives a shit if you can't use OU mons, all the lower tiers have cool Pokemon too

>>30628728
Everyone was playing on carts during gen 4. And by everyone I mean the bulk of the smogon following player base.

>>30627722
>All these Pokemon with STAB against Dark
Well rip Hydregion, Crawduant, and Kroko.

>>30628828

OU has all of those pokemon too AND the OU mons

>>30628873
Ok but what is your problem with less powerful pokemon actually being able to hold their own in lower tiers

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>>30627490

Rest in piss you piece of shit.

>>30628416
>Gyarados and Feraligatr in the same tier.
>Conkeldurr and Machamp in the same tier.
really?

This doesn't even mean anything for OU, yet. Doesn't it take up to a month before we get a good idea of how the tiers will look for a new generation?

>>30628977
While this won't stick for long without some shifts, this one (Pokebank) paints a pretty accurate picture of the tier's future.

Lando-T is absolutely balanced and there's nothing wrong with sub-legendaries :)

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No Legendaries/Ultra Beast/Megas metagame when

>people will continue to claim that genies should be banned
>when Thundurus and Tornados-T dropped

Ban Tapus.

>>30629069
That wouldn't really solve anything.

>>30629077
Tapus are less obnoxious than genies. All we need is to remove Landorus.

>>30627396
>Having 5 options for switching
>for switching

S T E A L T H
R O C K

My stall team is beaten by prediction so i'll punish smart play with this here balanced ability that deals potentially infinite damage from a single use ;)

>>30629069
When will anti-legend people fuck off forever

>>30629069
In a few months when RU gets made

>>30629108
This is how I know you don't know a single thing about competitive because stall teams are the ones that get fucked over extensively by Stealth Rocks. Every single offense build makes it a priority to get up the Rocks against Stall, which makes Mega Sableye such a priority to kill/check.

>>30628328
And Weavile and Tyranitar both die immediately to fighting moves, so why are they ou? And if having a 4x weakness is so terrible, why are Ho-Oh, PDon, Rayylmao, and Mega Fug all uber+ instead of f-rank in pu?

>>30627057
>owls are birds

>>30629069
Granted this wouldn't be the final result if we remove all the stuff you mentioned but by usage the metagame would be:
1Aegislash
2Toxapex
3Marowak-A
4Ferrothorn
5Garchomp
6Dugtrio
7Skarmory
8Mantine
9Greninja
10Chansey
11Excadrill
12Rotom-W
13Clefable
14Porygon-Z
15Mimikyu
16Bisharp
17Pelipper
18Magnezone
19Kingdra
20Mandibuzz
21Tyranitar
22Hippowdon
23Ninetales-A
24Gliscor
25Dragonite
26Mamoswine
27Azumarill
28Weavile
29Kommo-o
30Amoonguss
31Scizor
32Tangrowth
33Salazzle
34Decidueye
35Minior
36Raichu-A
37Golisopod
38Pyukumuku
39Volcarona
40Starmie
41Blissey
42Araquanid
43Hydreigon
44Muk-A
45Thundurus
46Dhelmise
47Shuckle
48Primarina
49Seismitoad
50Scolipede
51Persian-A

Granted it feels less cancerous but it still will be very centered around Chomp/TTar/Aegis

>>30628816
>Buzzwole is broken

The fuck? When did that happen??? Did i miss something?

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>>30629228
>PGroudon
>Mega Fug
>4x weakness

>>30628558
This is proof that Ice is the shittiest type in the series.

>>30627992
Why didn't they have all the Mega Stones available anyways?

>>30627118
Tyranitar gets reamed by Pheromosa, expect it to rise once she's banned.

>>30627139
>implying megamence can be countered

>>30627171
>implying the Nintendo meta looks any different

Blame them if you don't like it, nothing Smogon can do about it because they're not dumb cucks who arbitrarily ban shit based on legendary status if it's not broken in standard play.

>>30627223
They're not going to do any suspects until at least March. They want to give the meta some time to stabilize and time to figure out what new things might need a suspect. People are currently considering Pheromosa and Genesect pretty obvious bans and Tapu Lele might end up banned as well.

>>30627334
BSS is not a 'no skill' meta, it's a meta built around matchups and prediction. Once you get high enough on the ladder you run into the same 50 or so guys over and over so it becomes a matter of knowing how they like to play.

>>30629077
You can't take these stats too seriously, everything that got something new has artificially inflated usage. Only some of the new pokes will stay as high as they are, and old good stuff will slowly rise back up unless new stuff hard counters it.

>>30629323
>give kyurem-b icicle crash
>boom ubers
hire me gamefreak

>>30629302
When you have 107 HP, 139 in both Atk and Def, can run Scarf and Band and have reliable recovery in Roost and a free Moxie, you're bound to be good. Clearly Pheromosa is better, but it's not a good thing to sleep on Buzzwole.

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>Azumarill is UU

>>30629587
What did you expect in a Meta with both Xurkitree and Tapu Koko. Also Bulu.

>>30629674
And lele giving a free inmunity to Aqua Jet to everyone

>>30629439
Why isn't there a physical version of Ice Beam/Blizzard? The Ice typing would be so much better with those things.

>>30626974
So why aren't all 'legendary" including trio's and pseudo's and all that shit not banned to ubers yet?

Or Christ give them some kind of inbetween tier between ubers and OU

Because its just fucking ridiculous at this point. Its fairly obvious that there are enough of them at the top of OU to form a tier of their own for fucking off their legendary dicks.

>>30629709
>>30629674
These Tapus are really defining the meta then huh?

Would this mean the rise of more Poison types too (aside from Toxapex, who everyone seems to love)? M-my bro Gengar could help, r-right?

>>30629587
Is there anything in UU that can deal with belly bunny at all? I'm pretty sure STAB Aqua Jet coming off of 1744 attack cuts through that entire tier with almost no effort.

>>30630061
Volcanion cucked Azumarill 90% of the time during the period both were OU. And since they're in the same tier now, it's not like Azumarill will be to bad.

So the meta is just Tapus + UBs?

>>30630264
Featuring Toxapex and Marowak, yes.

>>30628101

Outclassed by Volcarona as a sweeper
Outclassed by Venomoth as a passer.

At least Cutiefly might get suspected in LC.

>Throw Sash Pelipper and Ash-Greninja on the same team
Man half the time the frog just jobs hard but there's nothing better than getting the opponent in a situation where they realize that they're about to eat a scary amount of Ash Greninja Rain Boosted 252+ Choice Specs STAB Water Shurikens and they have no resistances so es over.

I'm so glad that both of my bros are good enough to tangle in OU.

>>30629302

Great Physical tank with reliable recovery, that can also do damage.

It's like Donphan, but better, without the spinny.

>tfw besides Sylveon, my whole team is on the top 20

Am I the cancer?

>>30630169

You know, until Volcanion gets quick banned day 3 into UU.

>>30627722
BL is gonna be fucking stacked this gen.

Gengar is still good guys. It kills 3/4 of the Tapus and benefits from the terrains.

>inb4 DUDE ERFQUAKE LMAO

Gengar never walled Lando or Drill to begin with. And it can still check a majority of the cast.

wtf I hate UU now

>>30626974
ban tapus

>>30630634
252+ Atk Tapu Bulu Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gengar: 244-288 (94.2 - 111.1%)

That's not even banded. wew

>>30630634
>3/4
Physical Koko OHKOs Gengar with Wild Charge, and Scarf Lele obviously annihilates it. Gengar only checks Fini and Bulu.

>>30630811
>>30630813
ded

>>30626974
>| 10 | Marowak-Alola | 15.05936% | 151252 | 15.469% | 117077 | 16.093% |

What the fuck? Explain this.

>>30630959
ULTRA BEAST KILLER
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Also has impressive bulk for an anti meta mon

>>30627134
I wish I had a choice to remove you from existence.

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Top Kek best Tapu confirmed

>>30630959
Marowak + thick club = 160 attack

>>30630959
Hits hard as shit, absorbs electric attacks and resists typical coverage attacks from Electric-types thanks to Lightning Rod (don't listen to people who tell you to use Rock Head), sets Rocks, and would be an all around solid mon if he had recovery.

>>30630959
He's the Touma of the tier.

>| 138 | Silvally | 0.46001%
>other types not even listed
a-a-at least he has more usage than Guzzlord?

>>30631190
210 actually, assuming max EVs.

>>30631298
People build A-Marowak Sp.Def now.

>>30631327
How many EV's in attack?

>>30631190
It's higher than 160 base attack. Adamant 252 evs Thick club Marowak's attack stat at level 100 is 568 the equivalent would be an adamant 252 evs base 209 Attack Pokemon.

>>30631348
252 Sp.Def, 252 HP, 4Atk is the standard build with a Careful nature right now.

>>30631327
That explains why my stall team has been surviving them, kek.

>>30631373
>not running the superior 248 HP / 16 Atk / 112 SpD / 132 Spe spread

Scarf Nidoking will be OU very soon.

Cap this post.

>>30631418
Personally, I still just run Adamant cause I'm a scrub.

Can someone make a Tapu Koko giveaway?

>>30631327
>>30631348
>>30631373
>>30631418

This is only for weird like Leftovers Marowak (which isn't a very good set). All Thick Club Marowak run max attack, or are shitters.

>>30631373
Ah, alright then.
In that case, with thick club, it has the equivalent of a fully invested base 147.5, or an uninvested 179.

>>30631511
I feel it can tank hits better, but I prefer my Adamant one.

>>30626974
>dugtrio is that high
w-what?

>>30631569
Dugtrio has been OU since like Gen 5 or 4.

>>30631580
Duggy is only OU on odd gens barring gen1.
Gen 3, gen 5, gen 7.

>>30631569
It got base 100 attack now, so it's better at revenge killing.

>>30631569
>the best revenge killer the past few gens went from a 80 attack to 100
Dugtrio is a staple, now and forever.

>>30631604
It was OU end (and beginning I think) of Gen 6.

>>30631580
>>30631604
i want alolan dugtrio to be good ;_;

>>30628065
>TFW BL will have enough Pokemon to be a playable tier now.

May as well just rename "BL" to "OU" and "OU" to "Diet Ubers"

>>30626978
>| 47 | Kingdra | 4.07374% | 45213 | 4.624% | 33038 | 4.541% |
Feels good rain bros

Despite Decidueye's higher usage in OU, I'm certain it's going to become NU's staple Defoger. It fits too perfectly.

Incineroar and Primarina will hover in RU until Intimidate is released, then Incineroar will be BL2. If Primarina gets Liquid Voice Boomburst, it too will be BL2.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

So is Kommo-O the first pseudo legend to start off UU?

>>30631952
Primarina is already putting in work in UU. Where the hell have you been?

>>30632500
UU isn't a thing yet tard.

>>30632564
UU has a speculative beta meta up.

I honestly think you could have a BL tier between OU and UU and it'd be a healthy meta.

>>30627722
Holy Fuck, Kyu-B is UU?
I hit 1900s regularly leaning on banded black. Smog's are gonna rue this.

>>30632798
>speculative
k

>>30632918
immediate quickban just like last gen

>>30631952
Primarina is doing really good in the beta UU

>>30627973
This.

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>Mimikyu is OU
I KNEW IT!

>>30631497
offensive Marowak is shit
specially defensive can use Will O' Wisp to cut your opponent's attacks and with pokebank has access to Knock-Off and Stealth Rock making it a superb support mon

It doesn't even need to use Ground coverage, just Ghost + Fire covers enough