ITT: Buff Alola mons

>>30622724
>Ice fang for grass and ground types
>Fire fang for steel types
>Thunder fang for water types

Maybe give it some more psychic moves or make Accelerock be like Flying Press in that it deals X/Flying damage to deal with fighting-types. But honestly, who needs speed when your signature move is a priority move of the ONLY TYPE IN THE GAME THAT HAS MORE SUPER-EFFECTIVES THAN NOT-EFFECTIVES, for lack of better terms.

>>30622724
Replace Decidueye's Defense with its SpAtk. Done.

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Adaptability.

>>30622724
>>30623543
It has thunder and fire fang as egg moves.

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>>30623593
FUCK OFF

>>30623639
Wow, that's convenient!

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>Stomping Tantrum
>Blaze Kick
EZ

>>30622724
They already tried that formula with Tyrantrum, didn't go well.

>>30623888
Tyrantrum =/= Lycanroc. Dino was slow, bulky offense with bad defensive type. Doggy is fast attacking mon with good offensive type and "proposed" coverage moves.

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>>30623593
Into AG it goes

>>30622724
Vikavolt

HP: 77 — > 70
Atk: 70 —> 20
Def: 90
Sp Atk: 145 —> 140
Sp Def: 75
Speed: 43 — > 115
BST: 500 —> 510

>>30622724
Emergency exit now allows Golisopod to make a move before he switches out.

>>30622724
Just Sand Force instead of Sand Rush when it's already got a fuckton of speed

>>30623840
It either needs a better Ability or better Speed. Leaf Guard and Sweet Veil are pretty much worthless, and Queenly Majesty is good on paper, but since Tsareena just has average speed, most opponents aren't gonna need to use priority moves in the first place.

>>30623957
>le its fast so it doesnt need speed boosts meme
sand rush is better

>>30623840
That doesn't fix its main problem, which is being a mono-grass

Add fighting subtype and Chlorophyll

>>30623925
The problem was not that tyrantrum was slow (you could scarf it which outspeeds base 130 IIRC), the problem was actually that elemental fangs unreliable accuracy outweighted the relatively low damage output they provided.

>>30623932
Take 20 off of Sp Atk and put it into Atk and it will be more realistic

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Accelrock

>>30624027
>chlorophyll over queenly majesty
no

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>Slack Off
>Take away like 30 or most of it's attack and add it to Hp, maybe even Sp.Def or Sp. Atk

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>HA is changed to Technician
>Gets ice shard, mach punch, and Icicle spear

>>30624049
op said buff tho, not nerf

>>30623932
>115 speed with 140 special

are you fucking retarded

>>30624067
I'd prefer them to push it further in the opposite direction of the Midday forme and make it more viable as a defensive mon. Maybe make it Rock/Ghost or something so it isn't 4x weak to fucking Fighting.

>>30624097
>not Fur Coat

>>30624101
that's still a buff you jackoff. you don't have great speed AND obscene special attack. 120 offense is high already.

>>30624117
>4x weak to Fighting
What?

>>30624090
Also give it a better ability

>>30622724
Decidueye: "No Guard"-type ability that only affects the user's attacks (Deadeye?). Learns Focus Blast, Power Whip.
Incineroar: Sucker Punch holy shit. Maybe Slack Off because cats are lazy.
Primarina: Wish. Water BubHAHAHA no, but Liquid Voice gets the -ate boost instead.
Lycanroc-Day: Rock -> Rock/Ground. Gets EQ.
Lycanroc-Night: Rock -> Rock/Fighting. Gets Dynamic Punch and Mach Punch.

>>30624087
I obviously meant in one of the two ability slots taken up by shitty garbage abilities.

really for every non-legend you just need to take 30 off the less-used attack base stat and dump it into speed, it's a consistent problem

>>30624117
Did you play the games at all?

>>30624138
>>30624160
Everyone knows Rock is 4x weak to fighting you newfags

>>30623937
This, let it activate at the end of the turn

>>30624097
>pokedex says it can cut off and fire its pincers like rockets
>no bullet punch

>>30624143
>"No Guard"-type ability that only affects the user's attacks
just give it huge power while you're at it

Vikavolt
HP 77->100
Atk70->30
Def 90
Sp. Atk 145
Sp.Def 95
Spd 43->40
HA Railgun (Or regular ability) that ensures "cannon" and "ball" moves always hit, also increases their power by x1.2

>>30624138
>>30624160
I have Sun. Isn't Midnight Lycanroc Rock/Dark?

>>30624237
you're retarded if you think thats huge power tier

>>30624264
Nah pure rock

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>Extreme Speed

>>30624279
Ah. My mistake.

>>30624264
no its pure rock
its also not version exclusive

>>30624097
eh, giving it more firepower doesn't solve its main problem, that practically any offensive Pokémon can O or 2HKO. Give it a Fire immunity and it can at least switch into WoW and lose a few threats

>>30623585
Nah, swap Sp. Atk and Speed.

>>30624290
They really need to give it Trump Card

>>30622724
gib EQ

>>30624297
Ice/fighting is a godly offensive typing but a shitty defensive typing. An offensive boost is what it needs.

>>30624326
Honestly what good would that do desu?

>>30624237
Compoundeyes is pretty close to that.

Toucannon: Trade its Special Attack and Attack. Beak Blast is now a Special move because >Blast and because if Water Shuriken can do it, why not Beak Blast?
Gumshoos: +25 Def/Sp. Def
Vikavolt: up BST to 520 by adding 20 points to Speed, move a further 21 points from each Attack stat to Speed.
Crabominable: move 20 Special Attack back to Speed, add Ice Shard + Mach Punch
Oricorio: An actual movepool
Ribombee: Actually doesn't need much help. Simple as HA for keks
Wishiwashi: 65 base HP
Toxapex: Fuck off. Corrosion.
Mudsdale: I'd say recovery, but IDK what would fit thematically.
Araquanid: Sticky Web.
>>30624373
EdgeQuake is god-tier coverage.

>>30624117
It's not Rock/Dark dude

Alola Raticate now learns Flame Wheel and Wild Charge

>>30623543
>psychic moves
>flying type accelrock
what the fuck are you talking about

>>30624434
>he doesnt like skill link

>>30624260
>perfect accuracy STAB Zap Cannon buffed by 20%
sis...

>>30624576
IT'S A RAILGUN MAN
YOU GOTTA GIVE IT THE ULTIMATE NUKE

>>30622724

+20 speed

there EVERY Alola mon "fixed"

>>30624600
pyukumuku sure does a lot with 25 speed

Lurantis: Superpower, maybe?
Shiinotic: +30 HP
Salazzle: Merciless
Bewear: Drain Punch
Tsareena: Grass -> Grass/Fighting, +20 Speed
Comfey: Draining Kiss now has 65 BP.
Oranguru: Appears in the game as a trainer class, possibly challenging the Battle Tree
Passimian: Traded to the New England Patriots
Golisopod: Emergency Exit activates at the end of the turn
Palossand: Water Compaction also grants an immunity to Water-type damage.
Pyukumuku: +30 HP
Sivally: Memories provide a 20% boost to their respective types, RKS System works with Z-Crystals, Extreme Speed, Recover
>>30624575
It's not that. We just don't have very many Special Flying-types compared to the bajillion Physical Bird Pokemon out there.

>>30624624

Pyukumuku's a shuckle who gives a shit

>>30624669
goalposts, etc

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>>30622724
Day: Strong Jaw, Ice Fang, Earthquake and U-Turn are all good options. Making it Normal/Rock and giving it Extremespeed is optional, but riskier.

Night: Dynamicpunch, Cross Chop and Iron Tail would certainly help. Optionally, give it Moxie and Pain Split, cut the speed further and give it more defense if you want to play into the bruiser-style that the pokedex suggests.

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>>30624318
As funny as that would be, you need to get the move down to one PP before it's super useful

>>30624738
>>30624318
this isn't reddit, please leave

Minior: Shields Down auto-activates at the end of the turn if Shell Smash is used, regardless of its remaining HP.
Komala: +20 HP and Def
Turtonator: Trade HP and Attack stats, +15 Sp. Atk
Togedemaru: Iron Head
Mimikyu: +10 HP, Def
Bruxish: +20 Speed
Drampa: +15 Sp. Def (mostly to match Turtonator)
Dhelmise: +20 Def, Sp. Def
Kommo-o: Trade Attack and Defense. Trade Special Attack and Special Defense. Add Shell Smash.

Decidueye: Speed and Sp. Attack are switched. Also long reach slightly boosts the power of critical hits on contact moves
Incineroar: Learns Sucker Punch, Knock Off and Parting Shot
Primarina: Learns Wish. Also Liquid Voice is replaced with Liquidate, a water type version of pixalate
Goliospod: Emergency Exit now only activates at the end of the turn, allowing the user to attack once more before switching
Tsareena: Now Grass/Fighting, Sp. Def and Speed are swapped, Trop Kick's power is increased to 80. Learns Close Combat, Blaze Kick and Rock Slide
Palossand: Water Compaction now gives the user full immunity against water type moves but defense is only raised by one stage as opposed to two
Kommo-o: Learns Drain Punch, Vacuum Wave and Aura Sphere

>>30624755
>this isn't reddit

Good one

>>30623932
Dat mimaxing.

>>30624755
>implying le trumpshoos meme is only used by reddit
Not everything that's shit about this board is le reddit bogeyman, faggot.

>>30624294


It is version exclusive you can't evolve into the others versions I've tried

>>30624936
You can get the opposite version at the appropriate time of day in the grass at Vast Poni Canyon.

>>30624936
www.serebii.net/pokearth/alola/vastponicanyon.shtml
made me reply

>>30623543

maybe psychic fangs?

>>30624934
Isn't it mostly normals that use that meme

>>30624067
Head Smash, mega horn and super power. Probably gets some punching moves.

Fixed without changing ability or stats.

No Guard head Smash is a good thing dude.

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>Some unique move, probably a ball related one
>Maybe an ability that changes special ball moves to physical so he can actually use them
>give Receiver some boost when he gets sent out after a fainted pokemon like Retaliate (seriously it's existed since gen 5 why this ability comes out like this is beyond me)
>More teamwork moves, why doesn't he get Wide Guard?

Honestly I'd take anything that makes Passimian not just another generic fighting type.

>>30625662
Maybe, but isn't it Bruxish's signature move?

Kommo-o now learns Drain Punch and Poison Jab, and loses 10 SpA for 10 Att. Also, Clanging Scales becomes physical.

A Dragon/Fighting type would have been cool 2 generations ago, but it needs more today.

Why does every retard wants to make Tsareena into a freaking reverse Virizon?

She is fine a spiner, heck is the only spiner with aromatherapy and u turn. Are people retarded or just narrow-minded enough to never use a Pokémon in a defensive niche?

>>30624590
Okay, but then remove the secondary effect, like Sheer Force.

65/115/65/75/95/65 -> 65/115/65/65/65/105
For Komala

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>>30624831
Best post ITT

>>30625931
>buff physical Kommo-o
>when it will STILL gets outclassed by Haxorus, Salamence, Garchomp and Flygon.

>>30625880
Nope. Sharpedo and Stoutland get it via breeding.

>>30624290
>110 attack
>Adaptability
>STAB Extreme Speed
Just what it needed to not be completely shit.

>>30624143
Morning Sun makes more sense than Slack Off. GF seems real obsessed with giving MS to everything that isn't Fire type, for whatever fucking reason.

>>30625931
It already has Poison Jab.

>>30626544
It's actually 115

>>30626631
Source? I'm seeing 110 everywhere.

>>30626572
Then how does it make sense? It's not even a fire type move.

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>>30625931
Drain Punch I agree. Disagree with everything else. It's stats and signature are fine and already learns P-Jab. And if your this desprate for a good physical Dragon move why not just give it Dragon Hammer(it should also learn Hammer Arm aswell)?

Kommo-o also just needs to learn Shell Smash as it was originally intended to learn. Would benefit it's viability immensely. Would make on par with Chomp even.
>>30626187
This so much. Kommo-o being a mixed attacker is a blessing, as it makes it unpredictable and not vulnerable to Intimidate. Clanging Scales is a spammable move if the opponent lacks fairies. Its similar to Outrage but your not locked in which makes it less risky.

>>30625879
>>Maybe an ability that changes special ball moves to physical so he can actually use them
Fuck man that would it so much interesting to use

>>30625879
Re-orient some of its Hp and Def points into speed while we're at it. At least bring it to around Base 100.

With how many signature moves hot handed out this Gen, I was shocked Passimian didn't receive a signature Fighting type move that hits Flying neutrally, or anything really. Instead we just got loads of random moves related to thrown or flying objects.

>>30624143
One Sided No Guard is kinda broken, probably better to just use a renamed Compoundeyes. Could still call it deadeye

>>30623932
HP- 70
ATK- 60
DEF- 90
SPATK- 145
SPDEF-75
SPD 70

Run Agility and you're good.

>>30626730
Agree

>>30626730
Fair enough. I figured that since Decidueye doesn't learn any super-inaccurate moves or OHKO moves it'd be fine.
What about granting perfect accuracy when it moves after the target, similar to Vital Throw's effect?

>>30626699
It just needs A good fighting move that isn't sky uppercut.

Hell, even force palm would be amazing on it and fit the fighting monk theme.

>>30626699
>Would make on par with Chomp

Nigger it would be broken as fuck. No goddamn way is it getting Shell Smash back.

>>30622724
You guys do know that game freak will not fix the stats in this game right? "It would be to much work for them" dont expect any miracle updates or anything, its going to be like this for the next three years so enjoy it.

>>30624143
Decidueye's Long Reach should have reduced damage from contact moves or given it priority over them.

>>30623925
>ITT people who didnt get ha tyrunt

>>30626789
Ignores the target's evasion buffs, and guarantees critical hits against targets with boosted evasion.

>>30623937
This should have been the difference between Wimpod and Golisopod's abilities. Wimpod runs like a bitch without attacking, but Golisopod mans up and attacks before beating a tactical retreat.

Making the same fucking unique ability twice for the same line is retarded.

>>30626889
Game Freak loves having redundant abilities with different names.

>>30625988
>sleeping pokemon
>based on a koala
>make it faster than 80% of the island
????

Really, they should lower speed by 20, sAtk by 35, bump Hp up to 90 and put the last 10 in def. Make it a bulky normal type with a cool ability and good attack, even if we already have like 50 of those

>>30626242
Then yeah, give Lycanroc psychic fangs

>>30624260
>dat oc donut steal ability
Just give it no guard, put those 30 of those attack points into speed, and the last 10 in HP and sky zapper will be fine. 100% accurate STAB Zap Cannon would be good enough, anyway. Basically acts as a pseudo-agility against switchins.

>>30627124
Its low HP and defense would have been okay if it could use Rest.

>>30627243
>will be fine

nice understatement

>>30627266
Or if it got Slack Off

>>30627266
>pokemon that's always asleep
>can't use rest
Honestly this seems like a huge oversight. I get that it's already asleep, but rest is part of the staple "sleeping-based" moves that all these guys seem to get. If it could just have a perfect 100% heal, it'd make up for the shit defenses.

>>30627271
desu it'd make vika pretty OU if that happened but it's still a bug type with just "okay" defenses, slow, etc. Vika would probably be pretty good now if he got no-guard, since there's no special alternative of Machamp running around which probably isn't a bad thing.

>>30627341
As it is, the only special thing Komala can do is Choice Band Sleep Talk at will.

>>30627387
>choice band sleep talk
that's actually kind of a hilarious gimmick, I didn't even think of that

>>30627341
>it's still a bug type with just "okay" defenses

And only two weaknesses, reliable recovery, boosting moves, and now completely obscene offense.

Why does nobody on this board know shit about balance

>>30627400
Only 33% chance of doing what you want to do though.

>>30627402
>Why does nobody on this board know shit about balance
Do you honestly expect us to be smarter than Game Freak?

>>30623639
It wants Ice Fang though. It can't touch ground types otherwise

>>30625942
no it's just people don't want base 120 attack to go to waste

>>30627402
Honestly Vika is just fine if you give it no-guard, makes it have a unique niche as a powerful bug-type nuke and only good user of zap cannon. Its speed is shit but good enough to outspeed some things after paralyze, it gets agility, hits like a tank, but is far from invincible.


>>30627441
It's obviously not a good gimmick

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>>30624097
>Fur Coat

>>30624511
Hustle is a godlike ability in game, especially when you give it Bulk Up and Sucker Punch.

>>30624128
i was going to say thats still even too much of a buff. with that speed and defenses AND the 120spattk. holy shit

>>30624097
>wanting another mon for technicianautist to shitpost about

>>30627601
>removing the caveman face
>removing the gorilla chest
>removing the footprint gloves

so you replaced its entire "yeti crab" theme with... an egg?

>>30627601
>fur coat
>-20 spA
>-10 def
>+30 spD
>another bulky ice shitmon that can hit like a truck and becomes absolutely god-tier if GF ever decides to fix the ice type chart

alternatively, just to say fuck it to balance for lels
>New ability: -hammer moves get priority

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>Grass/Fairy OR Grass/Fighting

>Queenly Majesty now sharply increases the Pokemon's speed whenever it nullifies a priority move

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>Grass/Bug, even if it's not really a better typing
>Grass/Fire/spoiler], just to give it some meaningful connection to the sun
>Chlorophyll
It doesn't really make it good, but it might get the speed to do something and make an alright mixed/physical attacker on sun teams. At least it could use its signature move better.

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Do Alolan Forms count?

>Learns Surf (I mean come on)
>-10 Atk, +10 Sp.Atk
>Ability Surge Surfer now also grants the same effects as Levitate

>>30628301
>Normal Raichu gets surf
>Alolan Raichu does not
wew

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>>30622724
>Can learn recover
>74 atk->64 atk
>80 hp->90 hp
>Liquid Voice now also boosts normal type moves by 20% and increases the accuracy of sound based moves to 100% base accuracy
>Sparkling Aria functions like hex as in it deals double base power, but only for burning, sleeping and frozen pokemon. It also awakens and defrosts any pokemon it hits. It also no longer deals damage to allies and just heals them of burning, sleeping or frozen status.
Thoughts?

>>30628610
It doesn't really need the HP buff if it gets recover desu
Just give liquid voice the -iate buff, without the accuracy buff, and then make sparkling aria do what you have and Primarina will be pretty good.

>>30628330
Normal Raichu only gets Surf because of an event Pikachu, the moment PokéBank comes out Surfing A-Raichu will be legal

>>30628765
I was thinking of making the usage of sing a more viable strategy with the accuracy buff.

>>30628821
No it won't if those event Pikachu's originated from a previous gen, if I understand it correctly the form is determined by their origin, not necessarily from what game they're in at the time of evolution.

I could be understanding it wrong though.

>>30628821
I thought that A-Raichu only evolved when you thunderstone a pikachu caught/breeded from alola mons, which would lock out surf unless an event chu gets it this gen.

>>30628833
That makes sense, but 100% sleep is kind of OP. I want it to have a reason to actually use liquid voice, though. Since this thing is never getting boomburst, might as well give it a +20% damage increase

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>>30624318
I haven't laughed at any if these jokes all year but this one just blindsided me because I didn't get it straight away. Fuck you for making me laugh at this shit.

>>30628610
>increases the accuracy of sound based moves to 100% base accuracy

>100% accurate sing

Fuck off you fucking idiot

>>30629091
>what is Spore

>>30629110
something that isn't on a fucking water/fairy type with a ton of other benefits, on top of all that ridiculous bullshit you gave it.

i swear karenfags are the fucking worst.

>>30628610
Can you guys stop giving moves and abilities a billion fucking effects? That's not how it works.

>>30629207
Why not? Hidden power is based on fucking IVs for its type.

>>30623840
>Wtf no Power Whip Tsareena

Why live?

>>30629244
>one 60bp move has one additional effect changing its typing
>this means we should have pokemon who have abilities that read like a yu-gi-oh card effect
I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here, but moves/attacks really are best when they just do 1-2 things explicitly.

>>30629280
That sounds pretty boring and not flexible.

>>30626544
It could get at least 90 base Speed to be a good revenge scarfer with Stakeout

>>30622724

>Sturdy

Fixed it. Now it can kill everything with a Choice Band.

>>30629309
You can have interesting abilities and attacks without them trying to do 4 or 5 different things simultaneously, though. That's literally every attack or ability up until this gen.

>>30624562
He's trying to think of ways to hit Rock's last weakness, Fighting, for SE damage, but being retarded and forgetting Rock is NVE against Fighting.

>>30629309
Your stupid fanon abilities aren't "flexible" either, they're just convoluted bullshit to make your super special snowflakemon broken as fuck.

>>30629258
I'd be surprised if it doesn't get this in the next game. It already fits the entire Dom shtick it has going for it.

>>30629141
I wasn't the same person btw, but a slow-ish and relatively fragile Pokemon getting a niche 100% sleep move isn't THAT big a deal. Not that much bigger than Breloom anyway.

Some of the other stuff combined with it is probably overkill though, namely the Hex-like damage boost to Sparkling Aria which is already like 85 power.

I'd probably just make Liquid Voice boost the power and accuracy of all sound-based attacks by 20-30% and make Sparkling Aria work like Ribombee's Pollen Puff where it heals targeted allies or damages targeted enemies.

>>30629356
But you're exaggerating with my case.
Liquid Voice has three things:
>Converts normal type moves into water types
>Boosts base power by 20%
>Increases accuracy to 100% for sound based moves.

Sparkling Aria:
>Works like Hex but not all the way by just only working on three status conditions and heals the status condition.

>>30627801
>yeti
>caveman
pick one. It's not a theme if its all unrelated tack

>>30629410
Fine remove the accuracy boost. Better?

>>30629513
That is too much shit you stupid faggot. Name one fucking other thing in this game with that many unrelated effects and stipulations.

>>30629450
Primarina is not relatively fragile at fucking all. Water/fairy is a stupid good defensive type, the complete opposite of grass/fighting, and breloom's awful bulk. Not to mention an entire type is immune to spore, plus overcoat and safety goggles users. What the fuck prevents sing? Soundproof?

>>30629586
You said 1-2 things are best like that in here >>30629280
How is having one more effect too much?

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Seeing as they already gave this thing 5 speed, they clearly aren't above putting stats that low. Pyukumuku's stats are completely backwards

HP: 60 -> 175
Attack: 60 -> 30
Defense: 130 -> 85
Sp. Attack: 30
Sp: Def: 130 -> 85
Speed: 5

BST: Still 410

Now learns Foul Play by level up

>>30629586
>What the fuck prevents sing? Soundproof?
With the added Water type, Water Absorb, Storm Drain, and Dry Skin. Not that that's enough to excuse an accurate Sing, but there you go. Really Liquid Voice should get the 20% damage boost, but the change in accuracy is way too much.

>>30629647
Because you're basically giving it three fucking abilities at once you retard. It is not shitty enough on its own to warrant that, at all. Especially with all that other shit you gave it.

Seriously if you don't see a problem with piling on special snowflake effects on a mon, you can fuck right off.

>>30629586
Water Bubble reduces fire damage, prevents burn, and doubles the power of water moves

>>30629768
without that effect araquanid would be completely useless. it was even useless before we knew about the water buff, despite having two effects.

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>>30629697
>175/85/85 bulk

>>30629812
Dry Skin is an older example of a multi-effect ability and has been put on multiple Pokemon.

>>30629745
I agree that that anon was piling too much on, but in all fairness, Araquanid's Water Bubble is basically 3 abilities put together.

Whatchu talking bout lycanroc don't need no buff, shits great.

>>30629768
That's one ability out of hundreds, and it's balanced by being on a 'mon with shit offenses and a dubious type combo.

Primarina has a fuckhuge attacking stat and a godlike type combination, all it really needs is a way to heal itself to be a top-tier presence. If you put an ability like Water Bubble on Primarina it becomes a broken piece of shit. No really I did calcs, Water Bubble Hydro Pump from Primarina is a thing that should never be allowed to happen ever.

The target of an ability does make a difference. Wonder Guard, for example, only exists because it was tailor-made for one Pokemon and will likely never be given to a different Pokemon ever.
>>30629904
At least with Dry Skin, half of its effects are unambiguously harmful to the user. This proposed upgrade to Liquid Voice has no downsides.

>>30629996
> Name one fucking other thing in this game with that many unrelated effects and stipulations.

I was just naming one

>>30629963
Pretty sure Nightroc can use something, though, even if Dayroc is okay.

>>30624434
>Oricorio: An actual movepool
Since it seems like this thing is only usable in doubles:

Baseline: Fiery Dance, Quiver Dance, Lunar Dance, Encore
Baile: Heat Wave, Will-o-Wisp
Pom Pom: Thunder Wave (I think Yellow is the most popular for doubles?)
Pa'u: Light Screen, Reflect
Sensu: Destiny Bond, Icy Wind

>>30630754
It's kinda hard to give specific moves to each form, since they change with those nectar items. I guess you could pull it off like with the Rotom forms.

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Literally just give this thing No guard head smash and a scarf. Shit would be magical

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>>30625662
>>30627183
>introduce new fangs attacks with 100% accuracy and 85 base power
>doesn't buff the elemental fangs(and maybe poison fang) from 65 bp so they're not literally invalidated by the elemental punches

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-10 SpA, +10 SpD
Also, tweak the ability a bit. Either reduce it to 25% HP, or have it so Golisopod actually gets a chance to attack during the turn before switching out.

>>30632833
And if the ability activates during a wild encounter, you can switch to a different Pokemon instead of the battle just ending.

As of now, the ability is so fucking annoying. And I hate saying that because Golisopod is one of my new favorite bros.

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Is he even salvageable? I'm not sure if a Choice Scarf and all the elemental fangs w/ Strong Jaw would help.

>>30624103
>looks at gen 5/6 mons
Rediculous crap like that is average OU now. Fuck power creep

>>30633719
Yeah, on Legendaries and Megas. Vikavolt is the Route 1 bug of Alola, it's a wonder that it's got enough power to be worth a shot anywhere above PU.

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>>30625879
I could have seen it having Unburden, once it tosses the "ball" it gains more freedom and movement to do whatever the fuck it wants.

>>30632621
Elemental bites have one thing the punches don't have: a chance to cause opponents to flinch.

>>30622724
Make day form doge part ghost, give it destiny bond. There you go

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>>30633986
>make day form part ghost
Is there some kind of background to why or are you just giving it the type "just because"?

>>30633899
>95% accuracy

Not worth it over the punches

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>>30629697
>175/85/85 bulk
This is almost like giving Snorlax Swampert-tier defenses.

>>30634082
Granted, Snorlax can actually attack

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Give it 100 across the board. Give it the following moves so it can have an actual movepool:

>Coverage
Earthquake, Play Rough, Superpower, Wild Charge, Stone Edge, Head Smash, Psychic Fangs, Dragon Tail, Submission, Hyper Voice, Psychic, Quick Attack, Volt Switch, Focus Blast

>Utility
Recover, Will-O-Wisp, Taunt

I don't know why they gave this thing such a bad physical movepool

>>30624016
Priority still fucks it though since it has shit bulk and it won't stop anything in their tracks with accelerock

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>>30634082
>Pyukumuku used Toxic
>Pyukumuku used Recover
>Recover with 175 Base HP
Now we're talking

>>30630878
Cross chop and mega horn would be nice as well

>>30634517
I like it. My own idea was this

>held Memories function as Z-crystals
>held Memories boost moves of the respective type by 20%
To match Arceus's plates

>remove Multi-Attack
>RKS System now causes all Normal attacks to become whatever type Silvally is
>now learns Hyper Voice
Now it can utilize STAB on both physical and special sides using Return or Hyper Voice.

Of course, I realize how ridiculous it is to give a Pokemon the -ate abilities, but for every type. It's a good thing I'm not in charge of game balance.

>>30624643
patriots arent a rugby team retard

>>30633497
This thing is so ugly I don't want it to be good.

>>30635314
>>30630878

>It goads its enemies into attacking, withstands the hits, and in return, delivers a headbutt, crushing their bones with its rocky mane.
>delivers a headbutt, crushing their bones with its rocky mane.
>delivers a headbutt
>crushing their bones with its rocky mane.

>doesn't learn any pf those horn/head related moves

What the actual fuck Game freak?

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>>30624755
this isn't tumblr either

>>30629207
Ever heard of Water Bubble ?

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not sure if already done but

> water compaction not only raises defense but also prevents damage from water type attacks

> as a level 42 evolution it wouldnt be ridiculous to add 20 to his bst which goes to his special defense
> furthermore take 5 from his attack adding it to his hp and 10 from speed and add it to defense

nothing broken of course but still a bulkier more well rounded pokemon

>>30629568
welp i'm naming my crabominable "the sheriff" now thanks anon

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>>30635454
>remove Multi-Attack
>RKS System now causes all Normal attacks to become whatever type Silvally is
>now learns Hyper Voice

Please anon, my wish boner can only get so large

>>30622724
So it's Shittier Tyrantrum? Tyrantrum also gets Poison Fang for Fairies, and for poisoning Mega Sableye as well, along with HEAD SMASH.

>>30623932
Is this an Ultra Beast?

>>30623925
Dino has better defensive typing than pure rock, could set up with DDance, and was a lot, a LOT bulkier. And got a fuckton of other, better coverage.
The fundamental flaw of Strong Jaw+Fang is that you are relying on roughly base 90 power moves with imperfect accuracy, when you could just run 90 base power moves with perfect accuracy, and possibly a better effect. Strong Jaw Crunch, and Strong Jaw Psychic Fangs are the only worthwhile options unless something new comes out.
There is a reason Tyrantrum doesn't use Strong Jaw.

Vikavolt > No Guard as HA
There he's fixed

>Vikavolt
> -10 to all stats except SpA
> +50 speed

>>30622724
>both dogs have same abities
>Vital sprit,Sand rush. No guard
>Night time lycanroc gets a rock version of leech life
>rockruff gets close combat as egg move

>>30639192
>Giving day no guard

Fuck no day already got everything else. Night deserves no guard all to itself.

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>>30622724
Needs access to: Drain Punch,Superpower, Close Combat, Aura Sphere, Dragon Pulse, Sludge Bomb and Calm Mind.

>>30624067
Rock → Rock/Fighting
Can now learn Cross Chop.

Decuideye
>Long Reach has all moves considered non-contact and can hit through Protect and Substitute
>Switch Speed and SpA

Incineroar
>Get Sucker Punch and Knock Off
>+20 Speed

Primarina
>Liquid Voice acts like an -ate ability and grants +20% attack to all converted moves.

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>Slack Off

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Adaptability as ability and give it recover/extremespeed