Now that Talonflame is dead, is he once again the Bravest Bird?

>>30567834
>implying owls are birds

>who is Braviary

no

emos aren't brave, they're whiny little bitches that prefer to cut their veins rather than bravely facing reality.

>Close-Combat: The Meta
I'm ready

>>30567834
>Decent Stats
>Intimidate
>Reckless
>Brave Bird
>Close Combat
Why is Staraptor so based?

>>30567834
A staraptor swept my team on battle 49 in the battle tree.

>>30567834
Yes, but I still think people are sleeping on Dodrio. 110 Speed, Knock Off, and SD all give him what he needs to differentiate himself from Emo Buhrd.

>>30567962
10 years of reeeeeee

>>30567834
>he

>>30568055
Every time someone types out "REEEEEE" I automatically hear Staraptor's cry.

>>30567886
He's not an owl, he's just emo.

>>30568047
Dodrio doesn't have dat Reckless Double Edge + Brave Bird combo.

>>30567834
Is le toucannon extremely mediocre?

>>30568055
>>30568167
>TFW went to listen to its cry since they probably butchered it like the rest
>TFW it's actually pretty good

Wow, I found the one cry they didn't turn to a steaming pile of shit. I'm glad it was REEEEEEEE

>>30568100
This meme needs to end

>>30568419
Unfortunately yes. He has a great attacking stat and Beak Blast is pretty based but that's about it.

>>30568419
Yes, no speed and its signature move isn't something it can abuse with skill link.

>>30567834
Forever BL

>>30568552
Thats admittedly still a solid Pokemon
Staraptor is too good for any lower tier, and just lacks the usage

>>30568419
You could go with Jolly Z-Tailwind memery.

>>30568476
Are you serious? Staraptor is one of the cries that were ruined, he sounds like a pussy bird, not a brave fierce predator.

Birds are shit.

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>>30567834
I think you're mistaken, OP. No one can out-brave the Braviary. Braviary is so brave that if you try to Intimidate it, it only gets BRAVER thanks to Defiant. Braviary is so brave is eats children's nightmares and shits out medals of bravery. Staraptor is quite brave, but it isn't "Stare Death in the eye and watch it flinch" like Braviary is. No one can out-brave the Braviary.

So, why is talonflame dead?

Timid or Modest for Ribombee?

Have always one in my team since gen IV so it's pretty clear it has been my bravest bird and will be forever.

>>30569454
Gale Wings got nerfed

>>30569454
Gale Wings only works when the user is at full HP

>>30569580
Timid

>>30569454
Gale force got nerfed

>>30569906

Rule of thumb is everything with over 95 base speed goes for timid.

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>>30568713
Birds are best.

>>30568476
It's not as good as it used to be though.

Literally every cry in Gen 4 and 5 was perfect why the fuck did GF update them

>>30570931
Pokemon-Amie (and Refresh)

Specs Swellow is amazing this gen

>>30570962
Specs Swellow isn't a Brave Bird though.

>>30568392
That's not a emo you retard, it's a seagull.

>>30568411
Reckless is cool but with 100 speed you'll end up outspeed by many things using a choice band

>>30570931
remember when they ruined best cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9sPpPrLC3g

>>30569408
>[Screeches in American]

>>30572233
I'll never forgive them for ruining Cobalion's cry either.

>>30569408
Adrenaline orb is definitely a good item for milotic and Braviary

>>30569454
It's only dead in OU.
It'll be great in UU especially with Flynium.

>>30572406
It seems too situational.

>>30570873
birds are okay, dogs and cat related pokemon are usually best designed :)

>>30572218
Getting outspeed doesn't matter mutch when you shit on anything switching in.

>>30567834
Yes please i fucking loved starraptor

>>30572446
Intimidates everywhere in vgc
Singles yes

>>30568047
Oh if he gets knock off then it's lit. I like both dodrio and staraptor, and to a lesser extent feared for the same reason

Reckless Talonflame.

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>>30567834
That's cute

>>30572971
>"Your Pokemon is bad because it has a type weakness!"

>what is Alolan Marowak
>what are predictions
>what are plays
>what are outplays

>>30567834
Best bird is still very Brave, but OUs a tough meta to play in these days for it.

>>30573185
Koko is bravest bird now, but good job outing yourself as an insecure Staraptorfag

>>30572971

252+ Atk Reckless Staraptor Double-Edge vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 147-174 (100.6 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>30574288
>thinking staraptor will outspeed

I'll admit I kekked

>>30574393

Notice it's not holding a damage boosting item.

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>>30574420

>>30574613

Staraptor is not holding a damage boosting item
This means it can hold a Choice Scarf
This means it can outspeed and OHKO Top Kek

>>30574689
And Koko can hold a Focus Sash, endure the hit, and finish Staraptor with a Thunderbolt :^)

>>30574964
I'm not the guy you're arguing above. But why waste a Focus Sash on Topu Koko?

>>30574964
I think you're missing the point here.

>>30569580
Modest

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Bravest bird is going to be this guy once gamefreak drops the Christmas update and buffs him up with his overdue mega

... I like him so much why does he have to be such shit ;_;

>>30572971
My Choice Scarfed Greninja can kill Tapu Koko after Battle Bond.

40 Atk Greninja Gunk Shot vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 282-332 (100 - 117.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

And Battle Bond can't compare to Protean

>>30575089
Don't worry. This guy just can't find a proper counter to Staraptor without waiting a good Team member.

>>30574964
>switching in your focus sash mon when I have rocks up

ahahahaha

>>30575565
Battle Bond is illegal with Gunk Shot.

>>30576257
Shh!

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>>30569454

>>30569454
Talonflame?

Moar liek Talon-lame, amirite?

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>>30572456
>dogs and cat related pokemon are usually best designed

>>30576257
Gunk Shot is illegal right now altogether.

>>30569408
>actually thinks braviary braver than brave bird talonflame

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>>30574689
tapu koko can hold a choice scarf too

every day i spend here i become more convinced that most of /vp/ should just not talk about the games anymore

>>30582705
Why would you put a scarf on koko thats fucking retarded

>>30567947
There's bravery... And then there's REAL bravery

>>30582705
> Putting a scarf on a base 130 cuz I gotta go fast
Good luck getting kills

With Talonflame dropping and Dodrio getting a buff we might hope for this thing to finally drop down to UU since now it has competition in cleaning which makes scarf set completely useless

>>30583039
Pheromosa I guess

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Is talonflame really dead

B-but i got a shiny jolly Fletchinder while i was playing the main story

i was planning to hyper train it, i even gave it a nickname, you have to be shitting me

is this the reason why the RNG god decided to send me this shiny?

there has to be a way to make it work