Boy, I sure do love the rounded cartoony designs of the later

>>30501004
Really great and ebin post :D
Upboated for good :D

>>30501004
To be fair the terrestrial coconut crab does have more rounded features than their aquatic counterparts.

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A thread died for this shitpose

>>30501004
do you really want a retarded crabrawler?

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>>30501046
Lookit this round fucker.

>>30501080
but that's what we got

>>30501004

That "Crabrawler" on the right can't eat anymore since its mandibles are fused to the shell.

Yeah, stupid rounded new pokemon like Muk and Voltorb... and Dragonite. Huuuurrrr

Now do the Crabominable version with Kingler

>>30501004
Genwunner trash

LAZY
A
Z
Y

>>30501118
Cherry picking ,I'm not saying that all 151 originals qualify for best design but I'm saying that all the best ones are in the first two gens. I don't argue which new design is the best anymore but which is the most tolerable.

>>30501145
Mechanically the games have gotten better (to some degree), I'm only shitting on the art style and general design.

>>30501167

Talking to me about cherry picking. lol Look at yourself, bub.

>>30501167

> I'm not saying that the original are the best, but they are the best.

Try hard Genwunner

>>30501167

Crabrawler should have rounded features for taking hits. Arches are the best design for that.

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>>30501167
>but I'm saying that all the best ones are in the first two gens
Fuck off with your "first two gens". Second gen is the one that started this kind of design and your shitty thread on /v/ being deleted was enough.
Gen 1 is literally the only gen with those kind of designs and it still applies today. Gen 1 is the exception to the rule. It's the outsider in a place it doesn't belong.

Not to mention you're cherrypicking too.

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>>30501190
That's literally one of the defining characteristic of a genwunner.

>>30501293
So I'm a genoner even though I prefer the later games? Really makes you think

>>30501167
>"god this one new Pokémon looks bad"
>"old Pokémon looked bad to"
>"LOL NO THOSE DONT COUNT FOR MY ENTIRELY ARBITARY REASONS AND YOU ARE CHERRY PICKING BUT MINE STILL COUNTS ANYWAY AMD I TOTALLY WASNT DOING THE EXACT SAME THING"
And THIS is why people can't stand genwunners. Times are changing, either get on board with it or get left behind. Either way, no one really cares about your opinion.

>>30501223
Did you read the post? I don't think you did.

>>30501333
But my point wasn't that one specific pokemon you fucking retard, literally the entire artstyle is rounded and cartoony.

>>30501167
>johtocuck trying to latch on to the based 151
lmao keep pretending your hipster meme garbage shuckle is worth anything

>>30501333
Here's what actually happened
>New pokemon look bad
>There were bad looking old pokemon too
>Yeah, but they all weren't
I don't expect you to understand the difference, though.

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>>30501378
Well you can't just talk shit about the current gen's artstyle on vp and not expect to get accused of sounding like a genwunner. A large amount of people are fine with the new rounded style and actually prefer it over the old one. If you can't accept that Sugimori's rough edges phase has passed...I have bad news for you, anon.

>>30501536

Crabrawler is round, Kartana isn't round. People are allowed to use curves in their pokemon design.

>>30501004
That gen 1 Crabrawler looks like shit.

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>>30501411
>implying all new pokemon look bad

>>30501004
that nu-krabby gave me aids

worst of all it totally looks like something neo-gamefreak would create

This stale bait. This was only entertaining when the crab was recently revealed, you tried

>>30501004
I don't really mind either style particularly, but what really bothers me is the inconsistency, even within each generation. Like in Gen 5, where you have the fairly accurate and detailed depiction of a fluffy moth in the form of Volcarona alongside stuff like Keldeo, who looks like something straight out of the Small Horse show. It's just weird. Realistic or cartoonish, Game Freak, pick a side and stick with it.

>>30501411
Neither are the new ones all bad but I don't expect you to understand it

>>30501167
That's just your shitty opinion tho

>>30501004
You're right.
Gen 1 totally didn't look like pokemon

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>>30501004
>>30501118
>>30501285
>>30501735
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have

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>>30501004
Fixed Pokemon designs thread?

>>30501004
Cartoon Krabby is cute CUTE

>>30501785
Why not both tho. We have a wide array of options to pick a monster to our liking and you want to constrict that for whatever reason? You're not supposed to like every single one as every monster is targeted to a demographic

>>30501763
It look more like a badnik

>>30501862
>I'm somehow included even though I was shitting on a literal fakemon

kys

>>30501862
Is this the same fucking retard that has been spamming this for months

Just because other games have shit designs doesn't excuses other shit designs.

crab pokemon are a mess

had crabrawler in my team for about 20 minutes then decided i would literally rather die than use a crab pokemon for an entire playthrough

>>30501785
>Realistic or cartoonish, Game Freak, pick a side and stick with it.
This. Gen 1 didn't had this, just look at Jigglypuff and Tauros.

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/image/ssaFCE_8p42Xn8dlAJDYPA/
Shine on, you crazy diamond. Hopefully one day you'll have the guts to take this stance to Game Freak themselves or apply for a job like they said to do.

>>30501004
>right isn't real

why live?

>>30501992
Why would you want it to be?

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Yeah, Pokemon these days are too cute and not at all monstrous.

>>30501785
You know that Keldeo existed before that Horse show, right

>>30501978
That's not me, this is the first thread I've made on /vp/

>>30502029
>UBs
>Pokemon

>>30501004
Shit like this is bound to happen with so many designers.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Altruis/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_their_designers#Generation_VI

>>30502049
Small Horse show has been around for decades, dude.

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>>30502069
>One of the Ultra Beasts. It's unclear whether or not this Pokémon is sentient, but sometimes it can be observed behaving like a young girl.

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>>30502029
They're Ultra Beasts you dumb fuckboi.
They have the luxury to be whatever the fuck they want.
Show me one true Pokemon from the 7th Generation that looks monstrous and not cute.

Garchomp was the last good design.

>>30502140
>literally banking on one entry that could be a mistake given the others

>pokedex makes a point to call them UBs on every other entry
>game only calls them Pokemon like
>Lillie doesn't know if they should even be considered Pokemon
Did you even play the game?

>>30501862
>that cosplaying crocodile with a funny eye
King K. Rool konfirmed for Yokai

>>30501867
I would very much enjoy one, but I have no examples and this thread is already salted earth, whoops.

>>30502166
Kommo-o, Turtonator, Golisopod.

>>30502166
Vikavolt
Araquanid
Golisopod
Dhelmise
Necrozma

>>30502059
surejan.gif

>>30501097

how delicious is this crab?

>>30501862
>He doesn't like blue columbus cat

>>30502280
>>30502292
All of these are cute! CUTE!

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>>30502166

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>>30501004
>Boy, I sure do love the rounded cartoony designs of the later pokemon games.

>>30501862
Fuck off and die

I unironically like cartoon Krabby and realistic Crabrawler in that pic more than the real ones

>>30502303
Too delicious. They're totally extinct on a bunch of islands they used to inhabit. :[

>>30501862
Reminder that comparing to Yokai Watch never was and never will be a valid point. We expect a certain standard from Pokemon, and when they fail to live up to their own standard then we should rightfully discuss it.

>>30502349
What digivolution of Agumon is this?

Comparing cross-gens design by species has always been an awful indicator of design quality. Obviously Crabrawler's design is going to try to evoke something different than Krabby's did. We already have a generically angry crab - why would we want another?

Kind of like how gen 1's Dragonite is cute and cartoony but gen 5's Hydreigon is more edgy. Tell me OP, do you want every dragon type to be cute and cuddly just because gen 1's dragon was?

>>30502013
Because it's an actually good design

>>30502461
Good doesn't mean nonsensical by the rules of the world it's in.

>>30502429
Round, simplistic pokemon designs these days
>It's a toy/plushie!
Detailed, realistic Pokemon designs these days
>It's a digimon/monster from some other franchise!

New Pokemon can't win.

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>>30501396
>>30501285
Johtoddlers are scum. They hide under the shadow of Gen 1's popularity as protection from criticism, then pretend to be anti-genwunner when it's convenient for them. They lack a true identity and their precious region is a literal cuckold to Kanto.

>>30501004
there have been rounded, cartoony designs since gen 1, and not all later gen pokemon, even in the latest gen are rounded/cartoony.

I know the image is part of the shitpost too, but even Krabby features round/curved shapes like eyes, mouth, the u shape connecting the horns, those balls on its underside, etc. while Crabrawler also features sharp angles such as the horns, mandibles, and tips of the legs.

Usually pokemon are designed on a case by case basis where the designers decide whether there should be more rounded edges or more sharp edges depending on the individual pokemon. By not limiting themselves to "only sharp angles" or "only round curves" they can get a lot more variety out of the designs.

>>30501167
"the best designs are in the first two gens."
Pure opinion, but I'm curious what criteria you are using. Also why are you still here if you only find the new pokemon designs "tolerable"?

>>30501785
The "inconsistency" angle is a good point I think. However, it's kind of too late for that. I think the realistic designs and the cartoony designs have been there from the start with Gen 1, and with so many more mons to design, it's only natural that they would push both sides, as it gives them more design opportunities. To pick one would be to limit themselves to either "only serious gamerz" or "only filthy casuals" whereas Pokemon was always meant to have both cute and cool designs to appeal to as many kids as possible.

>>30502535
Not to mention their gen killed pokemania and they simply don't accept it

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>>30501004
>the rounded cartoony designs of the later pokemon games

When will this meme end?

Every generation has a mixed bag of designs. Well, except for Johto which went way overboard with the "cutesy rounded" designs that people give later gens shit for.

>>30501862
>you're not allowed to criticize pokemon designs because this unrelated game has worse designs apparently.

Purely subjective first off, but there's no reason people shouldn't be able to criticize Pokemon's designs, even if another work DOES have worse designs. Also, your "point" would be better made if you picked something like say, a chinese knockoff or Pokemon Clover.

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>>30501862
>Banette and Luma's lovechild.
>Kalosian Hex Maniac 2.0
>Anthropomorphic Cheep-Cheep
>Po on drugs
>Afro Papyrus
>Detective Wile E. Coyote
>Evil Bubbles.
>Puppetmon's daughteru.
>Happy Cat as a ghost pirate.
>Mega Babies reject.
>The Simpsons reject.
>Yo-Kai Watch being a valid counterargument on /vp.

Keep dreaming, boi.

>>30502166
Decideye
Incineroar
Vikavolt
Gumshoos
Both Lycanrocs
Golisopod
Araquanid
Wishiwashi school
Turtonator
Mudsdale
All 7 UBs
The legendaries
off the top of my head

>>30502535
>>30502582
Here's your (You)

>>30502225
Isn't the sun and moon dex written by rotom?

>>30502643
What? No.

>>30502166
Legendaries aren't pokemon, they're legendaries. Pikachu isn't a pokemon, it's an electric mouse.

Titles are only titles. You catch them with pokeballs, you battle them. They're in pokemon. They're pokemon.

>>30502490
And let's not forget other memes:

>it's looks like yokai
>hurr durr it's just an animal REEEE
>it only gets bigger

>>30502604
>literally the egg pokemon

not an argument

>>30502667
You sure? I thought it was said in game the he will update your dex with new information on any pokemon you catch. That seems like writing it to me, he's also the one that does the dex check abs gives hints where to find other pokemon.

>>30502166
What are you trying to argue here exactly? The original complaint of the thread is that "nu-pokemon" are apparently nothing but cute and rounded designs.

Sure, the ultra beasts aren't technically pokemon, they're creatures from another world.
But, you can catch them like pokemon, you can battle them like pokemon, you can train them like pokemon, you can even pet them in Pokemon Refresh. In other words, no they're not actually pokemon, but these are creatures that offer pokemon players a way to use designs that aren't just "round and cute." Which by the way, you didn't even try to deny.

If anything, ultra beasts give you exactly what you want if you're one of the people who actually agrees with OP, (not that there's anything wrong with wanting edgy pokemon) and you're still complaining?

>>30501622
Rather than "round", I think "oversimplified" describes it better.
The design sensibility has changed, and now limbs have lost their clear joints and have turned rubbery, musculature is more cartoony, there aren't really small lifelike details anymore and Pokemon feel more like plastic toys.
The Ponyta-Mudbray comparison shows this a lot better.

>>30502759
Considering it updates before Rotom enters the dex it's pretty safe to say he doesn't write it.

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When are the underage actually going to admit that Gen 1 had the best designs?

>>30503081
when you learn what "subjectivity" is.

>>30502556
>but even Krabby features round/curved shapes like eyes, mouth, the u shape connecting the horns, those balls on its underside, etc. while Crabrawler also features sharp angles such as the horns, mandibles, and tips of the legs.
i don't think you understand the complaint

>>30502535
>Nothing but Kantomons

Feels great knowing that Kanto has always been the cushion to prevent a gen from being shitty.

It is why Gen V was terrible.

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>>30501004

>>30501862
You don't support either argument.
Your post literally does not matter.
Your attempt at neutrality is forged.
Please stop.

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who /fightingfoodons/ here?

>gen 1
>1 guy made all of the pokemon and he was relatively good at it

>gen 7
>a team of like 20 people make a few pokemon each

that's why some are shit and some are still good, while most of gen 1 is good. They need to fire whatever woman is in charge of making all these shit pokemon (crabrawler, lurantis, tsareena off the top of my head). I'm guessing it's been the same person since gen 5

>>30503426
>1 guy made all of the pokemon
Fuck off retard.

>>30502708
>If I call valid criticism memes just because they're common, they're not valid anymore.

>>30503457
>valid criticism

>>30503508
>If i green text "valid criticism" it makes it not true

>>30501004
This jumped out to me in gen 6 too, and I honestly think it's because round/smooth/simple shapes are way easier to model.

>>30503520
>if i call it "valid criticism" while greentexting, that makes it true

>>30503775
>If I greentext at all I'm right

>>30502582
Spotted the Hoennfag

>this again
Do people not understand that Pokemon has changed?

Look at art from the 90s and look at art today. In all forms of media, art has changed a lot.

What makes Pokemon any different from the change? Pokemon designs change, just like EVERYTHING ELSE. Why is this a bad thing?

>>30502631
>Lycanrocs
>Not cute

>>30504130
all change is good? since when?

>>30504207
This one is.

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>>30501867

Literally leave Crabrawler alone. He carried my team, which Krabby has never done for anyone

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WHAT WENT WRONG?

>>30504233
No it isn't.

>>30504357
Jokes aside, gen 1 mon didn't really have much character. They were extremely basic

>>30504418
y tho

>>30504418
To everyone but you it is.

>>30504235
that pidgey's rad though

>>30504428
Pretty much. Genwunners are basically wearing nostalgia blinders so many of gen one was bad.

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>>30501004
((((rounded))))

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>>30501004
>R O U N D

>>30504623
I like how literally every argument genwunners use can be used against gen one.
Case in point, the two roundest pokemon in the series? Gen one

Mfw I love all the gens pretty much equally in terms of design.
Some of my favorite designs are gen 1
Some are gen 5
Some are gen 7

Every gen has good and bad pokemon and anti-genwunners are just as cancerous as genwunners themselves.

>>30501222
>>30501223
>>30501250
>>30501285
>>30501333
>>30501396
>>30501846
>>30502556
Thank's for the (you)'s you fucking idiots.

>>30504235
>realistic pikipek
Disgusting, I prefer cute designs.

>>30504671
Thanks for the reply friend, I made this dogshit thread hours ago and came back to see idiots like you are still biting. Thanks again for being the most gullible people on this site, people able to make these Gen1 threads every day never gets old for me.

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>>30504706
>>30504730
>I was only pretending to be dumb! Thanks for the (you)'s DUDE LMAO

>>30504760
I'm OP and he's lying

>>30501078
What is this thing's gender?

>>30501004
>crabrawlers fists are suddenly made of blue rocks

>>30504235
I would sell my house for that pidgey

>>30501004
I like cute Krabby, I hate both Crabrawler.

>>30503062
Rotom was always in the dex, we just needed that part for him to do his thing.

>>30501285
Shit bait.
Compare Marill to a Jigglypuff.

>>30508063
Why should i? Both are the "rodents" of the gen, even if Marill isn't considered one anymore. Not mentioning the same flaws that apply to it apply to Togedemaru too.

>>30501955
>hating on parasect

Kys friend

>>30508136
Because you are complaining about the body shape.

>>30502049
Bruxish
Vikavolt
Lycanroc-night
Wishiwashi
Aquaranid
Golisopod
Turtornator
Kommo-o

>>30504060
>le no transfers to RS killed Pokemania maymay
Pokemania died between GS and Crystal. There's a reason why normal people bitch about muh 150 and not muh 250

>>30508358
really? You can see a lot of people who started with gen I saying how great gen II is. Gen II never replaced the original 150, Johto mon were always teased since the first episode of the anime and GS fixed a lot of the problems of gen I. You never lived the pokemania, you are just looking at some numbers and thinking you're right.
One of the problems of the sale of Crystal, it was the fact that was released after a GBA was released. In fact, all third versions sold pretty much the same. Only collectors buy third versions.
And yes, RS killed the pokemania. Starting with RS, older fans realize what the franchise would became. Generic mons, random evil team, beat the league and that's it. Just replace RB with generic copies.

>>30502303
Dunno but it looks tasty, looking at those legs makes my mouth water.

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>>30508358
>this is what Seaworldfags actually believe

>>30502731
>literally could have scrapped the idea
>literally could have use any other of the rejected pokemons that went to other generations

>>30502642
For you 4u4u

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Gen 2 objectively had the most garbage forgettable designs. Even with gen 4 salvaging some of the biggest turds, it's still the worst by miles.

>>30509943
this tbqh

>the cutiest krabby has been made and is not real

Holy shit just end it all

>>30501004
I feel bad for the anon that originally drew this. He meant it as an artstyle test and now genwunner faggots use it as evidence of "gen 1 best gen hurr"

>>30503081
Every gen has had great and shit designs. Even then thats just MY opinion. Some people could think pokemon i like are horribly designed just like i can think the same for them. Arent diverse opinions great?

>>30503081
When it ever becomes true

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>>30504235
I never get the hate for this cartoony style when Meowth has existed for 20 years. Look at the size of this fuckers head.

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>>30501004

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>>30509943
What even was the point of Shuckle, I've gotta ask?

>>30502429
KingGreymon

>>30514001
The guy has a gold coin growing out of his skull. You'd need a big head to carry the weight.

>>30514606
You'd also need a big body to carry that head.

>>30514500
To redeem Gen II.

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>>30514500
>>30509943
>>30504357
>STILL shitting on pokemon designs
Fine. Get a bigger load of it.

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>>30503775
>>30503520
>>30503508
>>30503457

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>>30514001

>>30514761
I happen to like Yo-Kai actually.
C'mon, insult me. Call me a fag.

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>>30501536
>Well you can't just talk shit about the current gen's artstyle on vp and not expect to get accused of sounding like a genwunner.
Top kek I said that ages ago in another thread, saying that the art style is now more cartoony and less detailed and someone came up to me with the usual "genwunner" argument.
People who can't handle another opinion are fucking ridiculous. I wasn't even stating an opinion, it's mere fact.
Then anon said that I could say the style is different and wouldn't be called a genwunner and I told him that it was impossible.

>>30504235
Zorua is a cute

>>30502535
anyone who is anti gen 1 is a loser though.

literally the most popular gen.

>>30501004
fuck i want that crabrawler on the right...
at least crabominable looks a bit more gnarly.

i miss the older pokemon designs

>>30504428
The basic of it is why a lot of people prefer them, it keeps the shapes simple without turning into cartoony bobbleheadd most of the time.
Cartoony Dragonite still was fierce lookinh in battle.

>>30512720
Other way around as well. The art styles have changed and you can't like either of them without someone blasting you bit alas the Pokémon fandom is autistic.

>>30504235
I still need to fix that Pikipek

>>30515162
Literally my mom's Jack Nicholson

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>>30515089
>genwunners think this is a great design

Really spookies the boogie.

>>30501004
I would be perfectly fine with the round toycrab if it didn't evolve into such a pile of shit.

>>30515601
I'd be totally fine with them both if it didn't fucking evolve right fucking before the elite four despite being one of the first Pokemon you come across. Holy shit whose idea was that? At least Charjabug evolves right before a Trial and the story climax, and can really pull it's own weight even without an evolite until then. Crabrawler is just too fragile most of the time even before you hit mid game and everything else has evolved once if not twice and you begin getting the single stages that can stand on their own too.

>>30515563
i fucken love it

>>30504760
SAUCE!

>>30502225
>literally banking on one entry that could be a mistake given the others

You are literally retarded

>>30504235
>Pikipek
JUST

>>30501004

You're comparing two designs that are going for completely different things.

Krabby is just a cartoon crab.

Crabrawler is a cartoon crab with a boxer motif, and such the pincers are intentionally more "rounded" to resemble boxing gloves.

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where does Sawsbuck fall under?

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>>30517912
Summer

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>>30504235
Pikapek looks as angry as KOBASHI

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>>30514831
>no greentexts
>on fucking 4chan