Why is this allowed?

>>30500778
because youre bad

>>30500778
you're shit

>>30500778
What? Did you think Primarina was weak against steel or something?

>>30500778
I hope you won, because losing to someone using Primarina( with Hydro Cannon) and Shiinotic is fucking pathetic

>>30500852
It did different amounts of damage. 4 whole percentages worth

It cost me a kill.

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>Gets destroyed by sing
Neato

>Lost 51% hp the first time
>Lost 47% the second time
>98% damage

Your Mega Scizor was shit if it didn't do the same amount each time, especially considering the Primarina didn't even increase his defense.

>>30500875
I did win, I'm just annoyed that I lost a full health pokemon to my move randomly doing less damage.

>>30500881
>>30500916
It's called variable damage, anon. This is a thing you should expect on a regular, shit's existed forever.

>>30500912
How is this my fault.

As you can clearly see, Pokemon is a balanced, skill based game that's fine-tuned for a competitive atmosphere, I don't see why you're complaining.

>>30500778
>Sing
>Hydro Cannon
Your opponent is shit-- you're even worse than shit.

You got a high roll then a low roll


shit happens

>>30500938
>variable damage

For what fucking reason does this exist.

>RPG
>"Why do my attacks vary by 5%?"
Gee anon I dont know..

>>30500960
If you just learned this then yes you're a shitter

>>30500916
Then there is no problem: you fought a shitter in low ladder and won even with bad RNG, so everything is how should be

>>30500939
>How is this my fault.
should have invested more EV's into luck stat

Um, because the attacks you use always do variable damage? How new are you to not know that? Its not always going to do the max damage, that's not how it works.

>>30500960
Who would want a game without variables? Sounds stale as fuck

>>30500947
He was meming the entire match. I don't know what he was thinking.

>>30500960
To add variety and not make battles simple math. Maybe chess is more to your tastes.

>>30500778
>>30500903
Why did it even Sing? It OHKO the fucker, it could have just opened with Hydro Cannon and taken a much smaller risk.

>>30501058
I don't think a person seriously running Hydro Cannon has the brain capacity to consider that.

>>30501006
I didn't just learn this, I'm just pissed I got fucked over in such with such a low percentage of this happening.

>>30501008
oh shit i forgot about that stat whoops

>>30501011
>>30501029
Because Pokemon is about calculated risk management
Having silly shit happen is stupid, especially when it fucks me over.

>>30501077
this

>>30500778
how is low ladder treating you anon?

>>30501104
>Having silly shit happen is stupid, especially when it fucks me over
I bet you're one of the retards that want critical hits removed.

>>30501113
Rage Quitting fucks your elo senpai

>>30501104
>Because Pokemon is about calculated risk management
You're literally complaining about a calculated risk though. Pokemon had variable damage since forever. Do you complain about critical hits too? Or paralysis, confusion, flinch, freeze?

>>30501058
Some people like gambling and having fun, regardless if they win or lose

>>30501137
I don't give a shit about critical hits, because they're rare.

Moves randomly doing less/more damage is just weird and annoying.

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>he didn't take the free turn gifted to him to safely set up a pokemon and sweep the remainder of the opponent's team

>>30500881
It's called a roll. try calcing before just clicking a move if you're unsure.

>>30501207
>I should have to do actual math while playing pokemon

no

>>30501144
see>>30501163

>>30501104
>Because Pokemon is about calculated risk management
>I don't know the mechanics but I totally know what the game is about
yeah no

>>30501104
>I'm just pissed I got fucked over in such with such a low percentage of this happening.

Every possible amount of damage is equally as likely. What makes you think what happened was a rare instance?

>>30501273
>>30501275
good job not reading my post friends, please try again tomorrow, once you pass first grade

>>30501104
fine, then from now on all your bullet punch will do 48% damage, happy now?
if anything 51% was lucky

>>30501361
Why don't moves do the same damage in the first place? That makes no fucking sense.

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Quit your bitching

>>30501405

>take a hit to the head
>take a hit to the gut
>take a hit to the shin
>these will all feel exactly the same

>>30501104
>especially when it fucks me over.
You're just a crying baby
What >>30501029 wrote is right.

>>30501454
if were gonna go full realism, why not have a hunger meter that makes you pokemon do less damage if it isnt appropriately attended to?

>>30501405
>Why don't moves do the same damage in the first place?
So the game is more about calculated risk management instead of just minmaxing to always survive with 1hp

>>30501454

>hit to the gut = 51%
>hit to the shin = 47%
>hit to the head = critical

I can see that as a reasonable explanation.

>>30501471
how would making moves not be dependant on a random invisible rng scale make pokemon turn into a math fest?

>>30501501
that's not possible

>>30501494
>complains it makes no fucking sense
>now complains it's too realistic
make up your damn mind
if you can't deal with rng then pokémon is not the game for you

>>30501494

Pokémon Refresh let's your pokemon do better if you feed and play with them. I'd say that's your realism.

>>30501529
>A hit to the shin is less painful than the gut
Are you a skeleton or something?

>>30501058
Incase it didn't kill and they had to wait a turn to recharge when they could still be asleep, or >>30501077

>Didn't take the free SD

You deserved to lose

>>30501558
>how would making moves not be dependant on a random invisible rng scale make pokemon turn into a math fest?
you just answer your own question

I guess no move should be allowed to miss. Too much rng in that.

>>30501604

Most times when I got in fights as a kid a punch to the head or gut ended them more often than a punch to the shin.

>>30501564
>a game has to make no fucking sense or actually be real life, there is no middle ground

retard

>>30500912
That's not how it works

>>30501650

>I don't understand what the phrase "moving the goal posts" means

>>30501636
I didn't lose though.

>>30501638
no i didn't good job avoid my question though

>>30501683
>my disjointed, pants on head retarded argument makes no sense! better say he's moving the goal posts

>>30501743
Still deserved it

>>30501650
Which is basically where we are,variable damage is nether here nor there.
The 2HKO was a calculated risk that you did.
In fact, assuming you run Offensive SD Mega Scizor against the standard 168HP Primarina is was a bad play on your part since the odds were against you.
>252+ Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 168 HP / 0 Def Primarina: 153-181 (44.6 - 52.7%) -- 25.4% chance to 2HKO

>>30501743

>complains it makes no sense
>is provided with a reasonable explanation for different damage
>still complains because the game doesn't have realism in other ways
>is shown the game has realism based on given example
>"lol its the other 31 people who are retards, not me!"

>>30501558
>how would making moves not be dependant on a random invisible rng scale make pokemon turn into a math fest?
Are you retarded or pretending to be? If the damage was always static then people would simply min/max their EV spreads much easier in accordance with the meta, leading to everything becoming much more static and battles becoming much more boring. RNG is there to try and make battles feel a bit different than your last one.

Singles already suffers from this problem much more than doubles or other formats with all the RNG that exists in the game, if you remove that then pokemon would become a complete snorefest.

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>>30501813

>>30501163
Literally every RPG ever. In fact if it had static damage each time, you'd be MORE pressured to use math to min-max your team.

It was your own fault. Also it used HYDRO CANNON, that was your time to get free hits in there.

>>30501837
"perfect" play is already a bit of a problem. With static damage, it would be more so since zero risk would be involved.

>>30501801
Probably

>>30501813
This may be true, but i would rather fail to 2hko with the same amount of damage rather than a rng roll.

>>30501826
>>still complains because the game doesn't have realism in other ways
no your '''explanation'' was shit

>>30501837
no one is that autistic

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>>30501813
>>30501813

>>30501959
>no one is that autistic
>when you're sitting here debating the merits of minor rng
>on a korean yahtzee bbs
>using a fan simulator for battling for meaningless numbers

>>30500778
>could've got scald and burned the Scizor
>could've been Specs Hydro Pump
>nah let's just stay in to a bulky water to bullet punch it

People saying that rng makes the game better are the same people that think IVs are still a necessary part of the game.

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>>30501959

>no one is that autistic

>>30502010
gamefreak already addressed you bro, without killing HP.

>>30501959
>This may be true, but i would rather fail to 2hko with the same amount of damage rather than a rng roll.
At this point you're basically admitting you're a bad player. You were betting on two highrolls in a row and then complain when it failed you.
Pokémon is as you said about calculated risks, this includes damage rolls.
>no your '''explanation'' was shit
Nobody is complaining that it lacks more realistic elements like hunger. You were the only one bringing that up. Again, it's not hyper realistic at all, nor does it try to be. At the same time it isn't "without any fucking sense" like you claimed either.

>>30501494
>implying I would be against that

>>30502000
The way you put it, anything involving pokemon is autistic.

>>30502034
fuck off

>>30502038
detach ivs from stats its not that fucking hard.

>>30501175
he would have died if he set up too. it got put to sleep

>>30502082
They already fixed it. The IV argument is old news now.

>>30502067
>You were betting on two highrolls
No I fucking assumed it would do the same damage because that is what is supposed to happen in a controlled environment.

>>30502144
What did they do?

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>>30501959
>no one is that autistic
I'm gonna show you what Min-Maxing looks like in a Pokemon game.

Do you see how little variance there is in a game that has some variables? Take the variables out and you'd have the calculated 6 best in 100% of situations.

>>30501650
>this makes no sense!
>this is dumb! if you want to add in realism then I suppose we should do hunger bars and shit
>why can't there be a middle ground????

someone gave you a middle ground and you said "might as well go full realism" yourself

>>30502158
Didn't you say you were familiar with variable damage?
If that's the case and you still make an assumption like that you're just a bad player.

>>30502205
Most of the time moves do the same Damage.

>>30502158
>battle
>controlled environment

>>30502181
bottlecaps. Either boost one stat to max, or gold ones which push all to max. While they will appear perfect for your stats, things like hidden power are still based off the original, un boosted.

>>30502082
You play on a simulator, why the fuck do you care about IVs?

>>30502252
Not true at all. The more powerful the move the more difference there will be in the damage dealt to the opponent.

>>30502279
that makes sense kind of

>>30502313
the only reason I play smogon is because VGC is tedious to get into