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What happened?
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>>30476007
Rock types are sort of useful now.
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Too much estrogen in the moomoo milk
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>>30476007
Can't really explain the dogs, but Nihilego is made of a "glass-like substance."
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>>30476087
Diamond Dogs
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>>30476007
>every rock type should be a boulder with Dragon Ball faces
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>>30476007
They wanted the Furry and mostergirls audience
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>1996
>Bland, boring designs, literally just rocks with faces
>2016
>Memorable, unique designs that use the rock element in more interesting ways

Don't see the problem here. Gen 1 designs in general were pretty bland and uninspired.
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>>30476109
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>>30476145
T.Furry
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>then: rock with arms, snake made out of rocks
>now: wolf with a rocky pelt, glass jellyfish aka crystal meth incarnate

They got originality.
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>>30476145
>Lucanroc and Niheligo are more memorable than fucking Geodude and Onix
>Onix is boring
>Jellillyfish isn't
You must be 12 years old to post on this website
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>>30476176
>he doesn't like rocks with faces, must be a furfag lol
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>hating on the cutest rock type family since shuckle.
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>>30476050
Yeah, unlike Rhydon and Golem were back then.
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Why does no one complain about Rowlet not being a plant or a flower? I personally like seeing the rock typing being attached to something this isn't a straight up boulder.
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>>30476259
Jellyfish made out of poison and glass is more memorable than a rock snake, yes.
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Don't mind me. Just a tree.
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>>30476352
Cool, go out and show people a picture of Onix and Niheligo and see which one they know
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>>30476359
This is a rock type thread! GET OUT GRASS TYPES! REEEEEEEEER
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>>30476007
>Kabutops
>Omastar
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cherrypicking is fun
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>>30476399
My opinion on things isn't dependent on other people you dumb cuckold.
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>>30476145
Interresting opinion, my redditor friend
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>>30476420
>cherrypicking
>2 on both sides in OP
>only 1 on yours

nice try faggot.
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>>30476420
Well played my negress
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>>30476352
Well, considering it's technically an extra dimensional Pokemon that can't occur naturally in the human world and because it's Crystal Meth or PCP in all but name, it's a pretty bold choice.

Especially considering its design is something as innocent as a Jellyfish themed after a Japanese fishbowl.
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>>30476399
>why do you think a prominently-featured gen 1 mon is more known than a mon from a gen that came out two weeks ago for the masses?

HMMMMMMM

Kill yourself, nostalgia-blinded faggot.
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>>30476259
>Lycanroc is a exclusive version evolution
>Nihilego was relevant on the story
Actually more memorable than Onix
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>>30476007
Went from literal rocks to different terms of rocks. Gen 1 had a boulder with arms and anal beads. Gen 7 has a rock type with armor and a unusual type of rock based being
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>>30476007
They had to expand the rock types at some point. There's only so much design you can make with a rock.
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>>30476007
They can't stick a face on a bunch of rocks forever, anon. That's just boring.

But anyway Minior exists as well as Carbink, Diancie, Binacle, and Roggenrolla so it's not like they're completely moving away from the idea.
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>>30476145
You didn't lie
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>>30476512
Same with fairys. But let's hope we get a fairy poison type one day that isn't some type of sprite. Something more out there
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Nihilego is literally cocaine.

Rocks yo
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I'm more bothered by the "I'm a ghost now" type.

Did Dartrix fucking die when it evolved?
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this is fun
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>>30476441
"Its more memorable" is not a personal opinion.
And if you will remember Nihilego more than Onix then this is clearly your first Pokemon game.

>>30476495
So you agree, Nihilego is objectively not more memorable than Onix, thanks for your input. Not sure why you're claiming I'm blinded by nostalgia, though. Is it because Onix is a gen 1 Pokemon and you're not allowed to prefer a gen 1 Pokemon to a Gen 7 Pokemon?
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>>30476566
Google stilt owls. We've been over this a hundred times newfag.
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>>30476574
memorable (noun) worth remembering or easily remembered, especially because of being special or unusual.

Nihilego is memorable to me because of its unique typing and creepy design.

Onix is literally a rock snake straight out of some 10 year old's homework doodles.
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>>30476259
The only reason they are more memorable is because they're genwun. Be honest with yourself, if they were released today you would hate them.
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>>30476399
>A design that's existed for 20 years and his ingrained into people's childhood is more memorable than something introduced a few months ago
rly makes u think
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>>30476561
Still waiting on a Ghost/Fairy dullahan
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>>30476536
Roggenrolla doesn't get eyes until its final form.
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>>30476574
Why are you so hell bent on shilling these dumb "rock with eyes and mouth" pokemon?

Are you an onix?
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Whats wrong with the rockruff line. The majority of rock types for about 2 decades literally looked like rocks. A few looking like actual animals would kill anybody.

>>30476566
Based on an extinct owl
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>>30476109
STANDING
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>>30476574
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT, KILL MI PLZ
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Consistently creating new and interesting ideas that aren't rehashes over the course of 20 years
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>>30476643
Which means it's more of a rock than either Geodude and Onix
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>>30476632
I love A-Golem
>HIGH SPEED KIPPAH INN A COLLISION COURSE.
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>>30476512
Basically this. Various types of stones get dull after a while. I rather have rock-types based on stuff like glass, gemstones, coral, igneous rock, or even endoliths to help diversify the typing..
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>>30476619
You're right, I forgot that Stilt owls were ghosts back then.

It doesn't even start as a ghost
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>>30476655
>>30476619
So why aren't fossil Pokemon all Ghost-types?
Checkmate, atheists
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>>30476698
Well, it doesn't become a stilt owl until it becomes Decidueye.
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>>30476499
Onix is the first boss battle in the series.

Newgenners just cannot win.
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>>30476730
>What's this? Dartrix is evolving, hand me that rock
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Tfw people forget about alolan geodude line
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>>30476743
>4x weakness to 2 of the starters
>boss

lel genwunners
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>>30476145
I'll give you Lilliemon, but furrydog? The only thing that makes this thing "memorable" is how deviantart the design is.
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>>30476007
Daily reminder a 1 foot tall origami has quadruple the attack of Onix
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>>30476625
>More memorable to me
Thank you for making it clear that you are talking about your personal opinions, before it seemed like you were saying Nihilego was more memorable than Onix even though it objectively isn't.

>>30476628
If you hate Onix you have garbo taste, especially since it evolves into the best Steel type. I don't let the time a Pokemon was made effect my opinion of it.
Geodude and Golem have always been lame, both in gen 1 and 7.
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>>30476743
>onix
>boss
I had more trouble with the sandshrew his gym trainer had
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>>30476779
good thing i'm not a cuckold that derives my own opinoins from others
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>>30476007
>lucario is a steel type
>weavile is an ice type
>florges and comfey aren't grass types
>gliscor isn't poison or dark
>spiritomb isn't rock
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>>30476764
I get the impression rockdog will end up more memorable just because a pupper and has a branching evolution.
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>>30476352
When was the last time you saw glass with the squishyness of a jellyfish
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>>30476754
>>30476789
That's nice.
It's still technically the first boss.
Meanwhile werewolf and jellyfish will be forgotten by the time Gen 8 comes around, if not sooner.
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>>30476743
Yes they can't. But if fucking Nosepass was Brock's last Pokémon, it would be the one to define "rock type". It has nothing to do with its design.
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>>30476259
I can't masturbate to literal rocks with faces so they're worthless to me.
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>>30476460
Well he could have also added Seel and Cloyster.
Also it doesn't matter how many dude, it's still cherry picking.
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>>30476837
Who cares?

It's a video game. Not a history book. Kill yourself, autist.
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>>30476743
>Pokemon with a pathetic 45 Attack and 30 Special and is 4x weak to two of the starters
>boss
Blue was the first boss.
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>mad that things change in a 20 year timeframe
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>>30476574
I'm saying you're retarded, because you're claiming Onix is 'more memorable' as if it's some kind of benefit of its design when it's entirely down to the fact that it was one of the original 151. You can't use nostalgia to justify a design that would have been forgotten instantly had it been introduced any later, or to downplay a newmon with such an interesting design that it'll assuredly be remembered well by the kids of today
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>>30476853
>it's still cherry picking.

look up what cherry picking means.
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>>30476743
>first boss battle
>no the rival battle in Route 22
You can't remember what you played.
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>>30476324
Lmao. They (one of either Rhydon/Golem) were in more than half the Gen I OU teams.
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>>30476176
Did somebody say [T.Furry, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?!
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Whats next? An electric/fire pokemon that looks like a dolphin?

I can see the pokedex entry now, "this pokemon feeds on molten rocks and plugs itself into peoples outlets when they arent looking"

And you faggots would still defend its typing
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>>30476777
Onix has quadruple that little shitter's Defense though, and Ground beats Steel.
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>>30476873
Not being able to handle change is the first sign of autism.
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imagine if genwunners worked at gamefreak

i wonder how many rock type pokemon they could squeeze out of putting a face on a rock

>rock flying pokemon
>a rock with wings and eyes

>rock psychic pokemon
>a rock that's to intelligent to be a rock

>rock ghost pokemon
>a rock that died and is now a ghost

>rock grass pokemon
>a rock with sprouting leaves

>rock bug pokemon
>a rock with bug legs and a stinger
actually that would be cool
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>>30476817
When was the last time you saw a giant snake made out of boulders with less offensive presence than a tiny-ass jumping spider/tick?
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>>30476420
You just show your ignorance. You don't know Jynx's concept. Unlike the doggo LMAO PUT 2 PEBBLES ON THE SIDE OF ITS TORSO AND IT BECOMES ROCK LMAO
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>>30476777
>>30476910
A mite has more attack than onix.
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>>30476910
Onix isn't beating anything with those stats, anon. It's forever cursed to be a shitmon due to being the first boss of gen 1
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>>30476947
You got BTFO. Don't make yourself look more pathetic.
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>>30476145
>use the rock element in more interesting ways

As in not at all? How in the FUCK is does moondog's design use the rock element? And don't pretend his hair is a rock, it animates like hair. Even if it was a rock, how is that interesting?
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>>30476947
Fuck does a ganguro slut have to do with ice?

What, do ganguros shove ice cubes up their snatch?
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>>30476947
It's a parody of OP's image, you piece of shit.
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>>30476925
You're just being a faggot. No one's complaining about Meteor.
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>>30476909
>all pokemon must telegraph their typing as obviously as possible
Did you get upset that Goomy is a dragon type?
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>>30476998
Because it uses rock as a shield, making it actually interesting rather than just a floating rock.
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>>30476857
>"onix isn't memorable"
>gets BTFO
>"onix isn't a boss"
>gets BTFO
>"w-who cares k-kill yourself"

BTFO
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stop crying about shit gen 1 designs we went trough this often enough. the old gen mons look so simple because of hardware limitations
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>>30477018
just give up

imagine if your parents found out you spent your saturday arguing about rock snakes
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>>30477022
>the old gen mons look so simple because of hardware limitations

Creativity is hardware?
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>>30477038
As in what you're doing right now?
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>>30476087
Really? The Lycanroc-Day literally has rocks sticking out of its fucking neck. Lycanroc-Night has a rock spike thingy coming out at the point of his hair/fur
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>>30477000
Nice hyperbole you fucking shithead.

No one said obvious, but all Pokemon should convey their type to some degree.
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What's even supposed to be the concept behind rock dog?
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>>30476909
I could see this in the vein of MHs Agnaktor or Lavasioth. The churning of our mantle is what gives us our magnetic field after all. We already got stuff like Nosepass with the MAGNETS theme
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>>30476324
Remember back in the early XY when people used Rhyperior just to wall Smogonbird and M-Pinsir?
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>>30477111
its a rocky werewolf
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>>30477038
Like you?
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>>30476910
>160 is quadruple of 131
What did he mean by this?
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>>30477111
It's a dog
But it has rocks growing out of it
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>>30476910
252+ Atk Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Onix: 288-340 (105.1 - 124%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Onix Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Kartana: 126-148 (48.6 - 57.1%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO

lmao
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>>30477138
160 is 40 more than 131, moron
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>>30476837
>It's still technically the first boss.
Except it's not, the first rival battle is the first boss.
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>>30477041
>>30477022

>Hardware limitations

BullSHIT. GSC had the same hardware as RBY and its sprites were VASTLY superior.
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>>30476460
He could add shellder or cloyster to the mix, where's the ice type on that? Never really shows.
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>>30477164
...that's not what quadruple means
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>>30477111
The moon is made of rock and werewolves are associated with the moon
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>>30477109
This.
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>>30477162
>has to abuse a 4x weakness and a guaranteed crit to kill Onix
Rock beats Scissors, faggot, that blade won't do shit without you cheating.
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>>30476947
Jynx has literally nothing to do with ice.

At least Lycanroc has a mane made of rocks
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>>30476816
>Rockdog will be memorable because of branching evolution
Oh yeah, everyone remembers Mothim
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>>30476991
It's a parody that tries to make OP seem silly by using an example that doesn't fit his counter-narrative.

>>30476979
Thank you for proving my point. You faggots don't know the yuki-onna influence on the concept THESE ARE THE FAGGOTS TRYING TO ARGUE AGAINST ME LOL

>>30476965
Sad your lot got rekt?
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>>30477022
>Hardware limitations
>Rhyhorn
>Nidoking
>Jynx
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>>30477205
>durr bees don't convey poison
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>>30476910
Kartana used Leaf Blade!
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>>30477235
>some shitty pop artist reference is valid for typing
>but a mane made out of rocks isn't

Why are genwunners so brain damaged?
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>>30477235
Well meme'd, Onixfag
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>>30477275
>Onix's Sturdy
>Onix used Fissure!
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>>30477268
They don't. Bees aren't poisonous.
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>>30477268
But it has wings, you dumb memer. It should be Flying.
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>>30477223
Jynx is based on an ice yokai. What the hell is Rockruff based on?
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>>30477070
BTFO once again
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>>30477311
>The attack missed!
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>grass/fairy
What happened
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>>30477317
"based on" doesn't mean shit

my shit is based on my breakfast but it's not a pancake platter, is it?

Rockruff/Lycanroc have manes made out of rocks. Jynx has literally nothing ice about her except a stupid reference.
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>>30477311
That's quite a gamble your making anon.
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>>30477210
"Abusing" a 4x weakness is literally just playing the game. Unless you have some elaborate strategy, you see a Pokemon, you kill it as fast as possible.
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>>30477313
that isn't the argument at all you tremendous fucking retard.

it's not about what type they """"""""should""""""" be. 99% of pokemon could reasonably be a different type. what matters is that their ACTUAL type is reasonable on them based on their design. poison is reasonable on beedrill. rock is not reasonable on moondog.
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>>30477268
>venomous = poisonous
If I can eat a bunch of bees by the handful without suffering any ill effects, that means they're not poisonous, you dumb shit
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>>30477086

>1996 "Psychic" Type
>Using a pokemon that didn't exist until 1999

What did you mean by this?
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>Gunwunners who literally haven't played a game since Red and Blue when they were 5 complain about something they have zero knowledge about

LAUGHING OUT LOUD
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>>30477317
>Pokemon was Yo-Kai Watch back in 1996
Nice try, newgenning scum
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>>30477338
I guess Beedrill shouldn't be part Poison then, because it isn't shitting fluids.
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>>30476897
>>30477118
he was being sarcastic you idiots

he was saying that rock types being useful wasn't new
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>draw a dog with 9 tails
>DUDE IT BREATHES FIRE LMAO

genwunners will defend this and probably fap to porn of it
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>>30477311
Right into the face of newgenners min-maxers.
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>>30477361
>implying this series makes any distinction between poison and venom

do you also argue that bellsprout shouldn't be a "grass" type because it's a "plant", not grass?
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>>30477353
Get over it? Nothing has to adhere you your made up rules and demands.
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>>30477404
>Beedrill used Toxic!
Checkmate
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>>30477312
>>30477361

better tell that to GF, since there's a poison type move called Venom Drench
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>>30477404
There you go, anon. You're starting to realize that typings are arbitrary sometimes.
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>>30477400
Youkai have existed before Yo-kai Watch you know, right?
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>>30477428
>made up rules and demands.

they're called standards you fucking pleb.
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>>30477419
>What is a kitsune
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>>30477419
What are you even trying to say?
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>>30477353
>poison is reasonable on beedrill.
Yeah, no. It's first of all a BUG. Then it's a BUG that can FLY. That is poisonous it's secondary.

BUG/FLYING.
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>>30477442
DELETE THIS
MY BROTHER WORKS FOR STEAM
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>>30477398
>literally underageb&s that started playing in the worst gens (6 or 7) pretending they know anything about the franchise

ayy lmao
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>>30477058
Alolan Golem just screams "rejected Mega" to me
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Just be glad Pokemon isn't like Digimon where typings are literally 100% random and make no sense.
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>>30477317
>muh yuki onna headcanon
>not related to ganguro at all no sir

Froslass is a Yuki-Onna - Jynx in no way resembles any variation of it. Face the facts.
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>>30477453
Standards...for fictional cartoon animals...
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>>30477462
not an argument. again, it's not about "the most" fitting type, it's about the actual type fitting on some level.

the funny thing is that moondog neither conveys its type first and foremost, nor is reasonable as that type.
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>>30476635
dullahan would be ghost/steel or ghost/dark or ghost/fighting

sorry buddy, I don't know why you think a decapitated horseman out for blood would be a fairy
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>>30477495
This anon gets it.
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>>30476007
>Gen I
>rockmons are mostly rocks with faces, with some ancient dinosaurs mixed in

>Gen VII
>rockmons include desert wolves with stone pelts, energy core meteors surrounded by debris, and crystal meth jellies

they got more creative with the type
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>should be normal type
>but it has a bone helmet and bone club so now it's ground
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>>30476349
I complain all the time.
I like Rowlet, but I'm disappointed that its Grass typing isn't used anywhere other than its bow tie.

Decidueye is better at it, what with its actual cloak of leaves, but it uses feathers for arrows instead of leaves, which feels like a misstep to me.
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>>30477475
>deflecting
Going to continue the Onix vs Origami Killer argument, fuckboy?
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>>30477338
I want to know what you think about Florges typing.
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>>30477210
>Rock Beats Scissors
Kartana is Origami Paper anon

Paper Beats Rock
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>>30477548
I think it's retarded but I'm not going to act like we haven't had retarded typings since Gen 1, which is the entire point of this thread.
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>>30476619
>>30476655
no shut the fuck up with your twitter/poketuber theory.

it's only ghost type because snipers are called "ghosts" and it is stealthy and in the shadows all the time and has shadowy arrow powers
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>>30477513
>i have no standards for this series therefore you shouldn't either
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>eggs with faces
>grass type is questionable, but to make it even more retarded it's psychic type because.... it just is
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>>30477317
>isn't a Ghost-like entity luring people into their doom from a blizzard like the common depiction yuki-onna
>just has weird swaying hips and big lips
Froslass is the only yuki-onna in the series. Jynx is closer to a ganguro suffering from frostbite.
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>>30476259
>You must be 12 years old to post on this website
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>>30476925
>>30477311
Fissure never works. 30% chance moves are ALWAYS bound to miss
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>>30477604
It's psychic type because the eggs are telepathically linked to stay together you retard.
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>>30477495
>Implying there's only one influence
>Not knowing the ganguro style is associated with ghosts and demons
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There are two aspects to design: concept and execution.

Jynx has an interesting concept but a bad design. It's ugly to hell and back, doesn't reflect the ice-type at all, even borderline racist lmao

Rockruff line has a rather boring concept and a shitty exectution. Rockruff is cute and I understand they wanted to make a "werewolf uses the moon and the moon is a giant rock" connection but there's nothing in the design to indicate that besides the fact that Lycanroc-Midnight is a werewolf.

Onix and Geodude have bland concepts but excellent executions. It's kinda hard to fuck up rocls with eyes.
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>>30477621
>Onix used Coil!
There, Accuracy boosted.
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>>30477625
Then why isn't Onix Rock/Psychic?
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>>30477522
Because it literally is a fairy.
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>>30477521
So it's exactly like a certain gen 1 Pokemon.

Nice job.
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>>30477604
psychic is pretty arbitrary since you can't just draw a brain on everything.

but the irony of this strawman is that it's psychic because it has multiple brains working together. that's a perfectly reasonable connection.

and before you resort to the same strawman again, i'm not saying every multiheaded pokemon MUST be psychic. but psychic WOULD be reasonable on them if they were.
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>>30476007
I don't know OP what happened?
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>bug type

I don't even need to explain why this one is retarded
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>>30477644
Because the rocks aren't connected telepathically?
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>>30477638
You left yourself open to yet another Leaf Blade.
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>>30477680
It's a bagworm cocoon.
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>>30477680
Bagworm
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>>30477577
Dark would make more sense.
Ghosts are straight up dead in pokemon
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>>30477663
It's psychic type because GameFreak thought it would be cool.

That's it. They didn't sit down and justify it like an autist like you just did.
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>>30477666
>rock-types at full health
>rock-types at half health
What the hell gamefreak, so inconsistent. Absolutely nothing to deflect the design. Rocks aren't pink. 3/10
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>>30476145
kek i agree onix and geoduse are kinda shitty, you'll have some neckbeards defend them but that's about it, the other two have way better designs.
>inb4 furry
both lycanroc forms are top tier for designs, which we needed cause rock was one of the lamest types before gen 7.
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>>30477708
it's literally in their dex entry you fucking idiot.
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>>30477644
probably because the rocks are connected physically you dumb fag
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>>30477694
>What is X Defend
Eat shit.
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>>30477685
How are they connected?

We already know each rock on Onix is separate. How do they connect?

Magents? Magic?
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>>30477680
It's a bagworm.
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>ITT /vp/ cries about a werewolf for hundreds of posts and calls anyone that doesn't a agree a furry
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>>30477705
Then what is up with Oricorio and Marowak ? Check mate. Ghost is the unofficial "Shadow" type, you can have the powers over spirits and not be dead.
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>>30477644
As dumb as this was I got a laugh out of telepathically linked rock eggs
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Onix is boring as fuck
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>>30477735
I didn't know you could use Coil and an X-Defend in one turn
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>>30477210
>wahhhh it only wins because ___ beats ____
>Rock beats scissors is you counter argument
is this bait?
also in what fucking universe has onix ever been good? Its got a lower attack than a bellsprout
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>>30477652
huh so it is.

I still don't think ti would be fairy type, much less be a pokemon at all. unless they did the child-friendly jack-o-lantern head version in which case it would probably be another ghost/grass
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>>30477735
What is Swords Dance.
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>>30477722
You fucking what?
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>>30477776
>Its got a lower attack than a bellsprout
I still find it hilarious that a giant rock snake has such shitty stats besides defense
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>>30477656
>a fossil
>unrelated to rock
>literal retard
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I'm just upset that this little fuck was never given a psychic typing
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>>30477748
Both also Gen 7. They already added a Shadow type, its called Dark. Marowak at least has something of an excuse with its history of dead Marowaks
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>>30477680
>I don't know what mimicry is!

are you going to say sudowoodo should be grass type next?
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>>30477796
I feel that's more steel rep than rock, but I guess you can count that.
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>>30477722
day lycanroc is fine, night lycanroc looks like edgy garbage
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>>30476007
gamefreak realized rock type should be more than just rocks with faces
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>>30477811
Nothing in the design says "fossil". It's literally a thinner grey Charizard with no arms. Don't make me post Archeops.

At least Kabuto and Omanyte have the excuse of being sea creatures with ROCK shells.
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>>30477437
>Jigglypuff used Toxic!
Checkmate
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>>30477796
It should have been pure steel.
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>>30477338
>my shit is based on my breakfast but it's not a pancake platter, is it?
Ebin argument, not fallacious at all anon, you're really smart (you're not).
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>>30476259
>You must be 12 years old to post on this website
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>>30477235
>You faggots don't know the yuki-onna influence on the concept THESE ARE THE FAGGOTS TRYING TO ARGUE AGAINST ME LOL
You mean Yama-uba (an attractive 20-year old woman- which is where the Ganguro influence comes from- but also sometimes an old crone that appears in the mountains and may or may not eat people), but sure.

Froslass is the Yuki-onna.
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>>30477883
Smart enough to get a (You) from a bumblefuck like you
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>>30477818
>Dark is the Shadow type
There it is again ! Dark is the "evil" type, which means either you're a violent beast (like Hydreigon), live in darkness and isolation (Absol), or use different dirty tactics to get what you want (Greninja and Incineroar). Nothing about Dark is like to Shadow. Ghost is the true "Shadow" type.
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>>30477737
Onix probably amasses rocks together as it moves along the ground. Don't rocks fuse together if put under a lot of pressure or something
Onix IS pretty big
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>>30477631
>not knowing yuki onna specifically has no connection to ganguro

Give up. Sugimori probably made it Psychic because he couldn't help himself fucking a ganguro prostitute one evening and blamed it on their allure
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>>30477901
>Dark is the Shadow type

>shadow sneak is ghost type
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>>30477737
only the face rock is conscious though.

each one of exeggcute's heads are sentient and communicate with each other through telepathy

do you know what telepathy means? do you think the separate rocks on onix talk to each other?

I think you mean telekinetic. as for why onix is like that it is specifically mentioned to have magnetic properties in the dex
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>>30477900
>>30477900
>>30477900
>>30477900
have a few more for free
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>>30477918
See >>30477892
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>>30477923
>reading comprehensin
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>>30477867
>Nothing in the design says "fossil"

I guess if you ignore all the sharp angular shapes and bumpy nodules like on its back.

>using Archeops
lol what? that looks even less like rock. Might as well be an exotic bird that they incidentally gave teeth.
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>>30477927
You're right. This is gen 1. It's only a pokemon if it has a humanoid face on it.
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>>30477914
yes, and it lives far underground so there would be a lot of pressure to cause them to fuse
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>>30477831
Except it is Grass-type.
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>>30476891
Dood it's even if you choose like 5 it's still cherry picking because the sample size is small compared to the total amount of mons yo.
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>>30477923
yes he was saying that ghost IS the shadow type.
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>>30477972
:^)
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>>30477867
>complain that geodude and onix are beating you over the head with their reference to rock typing
>complain that aerodactlyl doesn't look blatantly rocky enough despite all the jagged bumps etc.

which is it?
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>>30477958
>I guess if you ignore all the sharp angular shapes and bumpy nodules like on its back.
I guess Kangaskhan is a fossil now
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>>30477988
Don't you make that face at me. Sudowoodo is a Grass-type and I won't have you denounce it by calling me a Rock-type.
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>>30477353
>rock is not reasonable on moondog

moondog literally has rocks on it though. Its claws are rock, the spikes on its sides and the tips of its ears are rock and im willing to bet the brown streak in its 'hair' is a rock horn
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>>30477961
I never said that you retard. I"m saying that only one of onix's rocks has a brain
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>>30478006
it did always look rugged to me, but i'm also not 12 and realize that the same geometric shapes on different mons doesn't mean they're the same type. Do you get confused by magnemite and
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ITT: Fallacies every other post
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>>30478029
well ok since sudowoodos are plants I better water one to make sure it grows nice and healthy
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>>30478091
Nice fallacy fallacy.
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>>30478091
>every post

fixed
>>
Well, it's been fun, but I have to meet my friend at Smashburger. Have a nice day!
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>>30477958
So Charizard X is Rock/Fire? Since, you know, sharp angular shapes, the bumpy nodules on its back....

>>30477995
You do know that more that 1 person is posting in this thread, right?
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>>30477901
Ghost typing has normal/fighting pass through it. In earlier gens they've always been actual ghosts or spirits.

For your average mysticism, Dark and Psychic have existed. You want something dabbling in mysticism like Marowak? Psychic type makes more sense, it was originally the main way to even handle ghosts.
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>>30478103
SUDOWOODO DOESN'T NEED THAT. IT IS LIKE A CACTUS AND RETAINS MOISTURE. AN MORE AND WE MIGHT DROWN.
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>>30478128
Shit forgot my pic
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>>30478040
The dex says that it is a solid sharp rock held by the mane, used by Lycanroc to crack its opponents skulls when using counter.
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>>30477229
I think Rockruff will be remembered over Mothim since he's a dog pokemon. Dogs are a popular species and more than moths in this case. On a more degenerate scale, Lycanroc's forms are wolves that exist in the era of DA so they likely won't be going anywhere.
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>>30478135
>literally my mom's ball of noxious gas
I wasn't aware that ghosts can tranquilize Indian elephants almost instantly
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>>30478170
sumo dex is fucking brutal goddamn
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>>30476837
>Nihilego Forgotten
>When it's THE plot important UB
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>>30476007

Designs got more creative because people with limited imagination like you were never put in charge of design.

Every rock type doesn't need to be a rock or pile of rocks.
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>>30477923
>Bite someone
>Its evil

>Lick someone
>Your tongue goes straight through them

Pokemon is a beautiful mess we all love to hate
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>>30477495
Jynx is a modern Yama-uba.

Yama-uba was an attractive woman (but also sometimes an old crone) that lures away travellers in the mountains (hence the Ice type) and eats them.

Ganguro also has a sub-culture within it called Yamanba (another name for Yama-uba), but that's more recent than Pokemon and is probably a coincidence. But Ganguro as a whole consists of young women in their 20s with fake tans and bleached blonde hair, and way, way too much makeup. And that's Jynx all over.
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>>30478247
>all mountains are icy
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>>30477789
I'd say they wouldn't make a second Jack o' lantern, but then again Probopass and A-Golem are basically the exact same thing (magnet Jew), so what do I know?
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>>30478240
japan has some weird thing about ghosts licking people
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>>30478133
No, Charizard X is Fire/Rap-type.
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>>30478247
I guess jynx should be fire type then because volcanoes are mountains

or how about rock type?
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>>30478029
>me
>sudowoodos are posting in this thread RIGHT NOW
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>>30478247
>Jynx is a ganguro
Kill youareself, the clothing is inconsistent with the supposed style.
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>>30478234
>creative

>draw whatever the fuck
>call it whatever the fuck type
>creative
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>>30478336
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>>30477737
M-Steelix is clearly magnetic, so I wouldn't be surprised if Onix is too.
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>>30478309
>>30478342
all of the traditional art and stories have
her on icy mountains
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>>30478355
Why do you think we're making a fuss over what does or doesn't look like a Rock-type?
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>>30478320
I just can't think of a way they would have a decapitated head.

maybe it could be made of steel or rock, that way it wouldn't seem as bad to remove the head
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>>30476743
Your rival's first mon was the first boss asshat. You can even have a more difficult second fight with him before reaching brock if you try to go to the pokemon league early.
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>>30478368
It sure is more creative then a rock with a face.
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>>30476420
That's because she's cold as Ice, anon
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>>30478247
>>30478363
I'd always assumed she was meant to be those stereotypical fortune tellers in a tent. Like their name is even "Jinx"

>What even is Jynx meant to be, like in the Dex?
>Human-Shape pokemon

What the fuck
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>>30478336
It's Fire/Hardest Metal Known To Man-type
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>>30478370
>Forgetting how Charizard X gave it to ya

Fucking faggots.
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>>30478390
an icy mountain is till more rock than ice

either way, why would you have the same properties as the place you live? I live right by a forest, but I'm not grass type
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>>30478443
You're not a Pokemon.
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>>30478414
no, asshole, slapping on types without incorporating them in the design at all isn't creative. it's incompetent.
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>>30478363
It's a tattered dress. That's more of a Yama-uba thing.

The hair, skin and makeup is clearly Ganguro, though.
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>>30478443
Don't go down this road, Anon, before the Swinubs and Snorunts and Seels start spiralling out of control
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>>30476007

They realized that slapping generic as fuck faces onto literal rocks was a stupid fucking basis for design.

Geodude line = disorganized garbage. Geodude somehow has flesh within it's mouth despite being a floating head with arms. Becomes a bigger floating head with arms and legs, then becomes some sort of rocky shelled reptile. Golem was clearly supposed to be part of some other evolutionary line.

Roggenrola into Gigalith is the gen 5 replacement lineage and does the "straight up rocks" theme far more justice.
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>>30478496
i don't see OP complaining about gigalith.
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>>30478363
And what do you propose makes more sense? Yama-Uba, which it has zero visual relation to? Yuki Onna, which it has zero visual relation to?

>>30478443
Okay, now you're getting retarded. Stop for your own good.
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>>30478477
what did I do wrong?
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>>30478517
no you're retarded. you just ignored my point completely. here, how about I make it an actual pokemon example. the abra family is based on uri geller, who lives in modern cities probably, but alakazam isn't steel type

same with mr. mime. mimes live in cities but aren't steel type

>inb4 what do cities have to do with steel type?

trash cloak burmy
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>>30478400
I'm guessing it just wouldn't have a head.

Or maybe the rider and the horse are the same Pokemon? Like it's a regular ol' Fairy horse that collects human clothing to make itself seem more intimidating to Pokemon, but it can't get the hats/helmets to stay on its back, so it just runs around with a "headless" "rider".
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>>30478471
Like I said, I'll take the meth jellyfish over the rock with a face and arms.
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>>30478625
>tell me about the fairy
>why does he carry the mask?
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>>30477180
Games released later into a consoles lifespan tend to make better use of the hardware. Take a look at the variety of glitches, skips, and hex manipulation in RBY that werent present in GSC and tell me GF knew what they were doing their first time. Not to mention Iwata worked extensively on optimizing second gen for gamefreak, it's how we got endgame kanto.
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>>30478667
you're free to eat shit all you want, i'm just telling you why your "creative" argument is bullshit.
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>>30478625
Trade Evolution with a ghost type. One gets a haunted helmet, the other gets a fairy dullahan. Dex rivalry with Aegislash
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>>30478732
Whatever makes you sleep at night, I guess.
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>>30476007
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>>30478756
Carbink is the most pointless pokemon from gen 6 tbqh
>doesn't evolve
>crap stats
>Fairy type
>4x weak to steel
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>>30478787
its great for power leveling pangoro in sm.
>BULLETPUNCH kills them even 14 levels bellow.
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>>30478619
"Icy mountain is still more rock than ice"

No shit, but the biome is still without question what you would classify as ICY. Any ICE-type living in an ICY biome needs no further explanation as to its typing. You don't get animals with a design you could potentially adapt into an Ice-type anywhere outside of these places; it's the sole substantiation for the type in the fucking first place
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>>30476007
who would of thought that they would run out of ways to make interesting pokemon from rocks with eyes
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>>30478752
another apologist out of arguments. next.
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>>30478787
>doesn't evolve

technically it does but you can't do it in game.
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>>30477867
All 3 fossilmon are based on extinct Pokemon and are obtained through fossils, it isn't visual, but the rock connection is readily apparent
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>>30476658
ON THE EDGE
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>>30479197
Despite how cool that is it doesn't stop it from being a grey Charizard, making the "connection" as valid as "Rockruff is based on statues of dogs all around the world, but as an actual dog".
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>>30476405
it is a rock type you fucking nonce
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>>30476007
LGBT
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>>30478858
t. gamefreak apologist
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