what's with the lack of female professors?

Women? In PokeSTEM?

Science is generally seen as a man's profession so it is a harder industry for women to progress in

>>30466875

It's more that women choose not to go into science.

>>30466847
Contrary to popular belief, women aren't as smart or competent as men. They are scientifically proved to be better at certain things, but this isn't one of them.

>>30466888
>>30466875

It's very likely that it's a mixture of both.

>>30466847
I forgot that 3 of them went to the same collage

I dunno, what's with the lack of male pokemon center attendants?

>>30466923

People have spent a lot of time and money researching the lack of women in STEM and trying to get more women into STEM.

Women don't care about STEM.

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>>30466847
You're in luck, the professor in Stars is confirmed to be a female professor specializing in the exciting new field of Pokemon LGBT studies.

>>30466923
It's literally just the latter.

What's with the lack of wise experienced professors in recent generations

>>30467001
Did she kill kukui?

>>30466847
Why is the first one in a swimsuit?

>>30467083
She is Kukui. To research LGBT shit, he changed his gender.

>>30466910
Said the sexist pig. Hi Trump, how are you today?
>>30466847
Women are definitely smart enough, and most of the reason behind why we don't is simply gender grooming, a sick and nasty thing people do to their children.

>>30466875
>Science is generally seen as a man's profession
I wonder why?

>>30467083
No
>>30467100
She's Kukui's wife
>>30467097
Prof. Ivy of the Orange Islands

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>>30466847
I don't remember Prof Ivy being that busty

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>>30467100

>>30467083
>wanting Kukui to be the professor again in a slightly different version of SM
>not wanting to explore wormholes with your boy Professor Guzma and visit alternate dimensions similar to different historical periods while collecting temporal variants of Pokemon as part of the anniversary celebration of the franchise

>>30467239
I can see him being A kahuna or A champion honestly

>>30466847
GameFreak is misogynistic obviously.

>>30467239
>Juniper was still the professor in black2/white2
>Rowan was still the professor in platinum
>Birch was still the professor in emerald
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>30467177
Can't fight the facts nerd

>>30466999
Most of those studies don't count a female director of human resources at a Fortune 500 tech company who has a bachelor's in computer science and a master's in applied statistics as being a woman in STEM.

If you've got a male and a female candidate with equal STEM credentials for a position that requires a lot of soft skills, guess which one people will subconsciously assume isn't a closet sperg with poor social skills because of their gender.

>>30467279
Yeah, well, Arceus wasn't a beta faggot who ran off and made a humon daycare universe when the other transcendental interdimensional entities made fun of him before, either. A lot changed this generation.

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>>30466847
>science
>women

Pick one

>>30466847
GF wants you to take your professor seriously.

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>>30467432
fucking sonichu looking piece of shit

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>>30466847
>TFW you realize all the non anime female professors came from Gen V aka Unova which is based on America where most of the feminist movement shit is happening

realism

>>30466875
>>30466888
>>30466999
I thought there were actually a decent amount of women in life sciences? I'd heard they were actually the majority of biologists these days.

>>30466910
I know lots of women who are smarter than men. In fact that's the general reality in my country where we're one of the only three in the world where more women hold managerial positions than men. I also have a lot of female friends studying STEM overseas at high levels. Maybe it's different where you're from so I dunno.

>>30466999
I'd agree with this more than the assertion that men are smarter somehow. Most girls I know just aren't into math unless it's accounting.

>>30467205
because women suck in science

>>30467177
>>30467747
You don't need to suck up for women so much. It's the truth. Women do have better member and verbal abilities, but when it comes to mathematics and other science related related stuff, men outperform women.

If you want to argue, present a better reason why there are so little women in the STEM field.

>>30467177
Kill yourself

Leaks were a mistake, it attracted all the tumblr shit

Three female champions.
Three female elite four members this time around.
Most of the trial captains and half the kahunas are female.
Main antagonist is female.

I don't mind more female professors but this quota shit needs to fuck off. Make her old this time too, like Oak and Rowan. No more youngsters for a while.

>>30466847
I'm a male in a pre-dental program at my university. More than 3/4 of my class is female and they're basically all pre-med though. There's only one other pre-dental chick.

>>30467870
They lack the interest. They're not stupid, they just prefer other fields. I'll spare you the ad hominem for your own English.

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>>30468427
>Half the population lacks interest
Yeah, wonder why that is.

>>30466888
They choose not to go into science because it's male-dominated. Stop being retarded.

>>30468461
It's male-dominated because they choose not to go into it, dipshit.

>>30468481
Yes, because it's male-dominated, and subsequently unwelcoming to women. It's a slippery slope.

>>30466888
Most labs in my institute are 70% women.

>>30468567
So because it's male-dominated, it's unwelcoming? That's pretty sexist reasoning.

Even if it were true, they can work to change things. Or do they prefer to sit and complain?

>>30467870
>Women do have better member

What did he mean by this?

>>30468601
Nice

>>30468618
I just read that as memory until you pointed it out. Probably just a mistake.

>>30468616
>Even if it were true, they can work to change things. Or do they prefer to sit and complain?

It's changing. How many women were studying at university level 100 years ago? How about 50 years ago?

>>30467177
Post nudes and pretend you aint a female, slut

>>30468720
Don't stop bitching. Any person who wants something and isn't being the change they want is a coward and deserves no sympathy.

>>30468751
*Then stop

>>30468616
It's not my reasoning; I'm just saying how it is. If you want to blame someone, blame those men. The onus does not lie on those whose voices are not heard, but rather those who refuse to listen.

>>30466847
Because they'd rather choose a degree in poke-gender studies so they can then complain about the lack of women in pokeSTEM

>>30468751
>>30468765
kek

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>>30468765
This is now a Juniper Thread
Hilbert x Juniper OTP

>>30468751
I'm not bitching, just pointing out that there are more women in STEM, so they are changing things.

Because women don't give a shit about STEM. They'd rather spend their time studying less significant matters.

>>30468772
If they allow their own reasoning to hold them back, they'll only have themselves to blame. Perhaps the field is better off without people like that.
>>30468847
That's cool. White knight faggot should fuck off then.

>>30467002
>>30466923
>>30466888
>>30466875
the one incentives the other in a loop: fewer women in science means fewer role models means less interest and fewer perceived opportunities which means fewer women in science. I know social sciences can be sort of a tough thing to wrap your head around at 15 but come on, try to keep up.

>>30468567
It's male dominated because women THINK it's male dominated, tell other women this who are subsequently put off. NO-ONE in science gives a shit about your gender. The cycle is perpetuated entirely by themselves

I have a friend who did medical science at uni through her own merit and drive and she STILL turned into a massive SJW upon entering uni even though she's essentially proving that entire assertion wrong by being there in the first place.

>>30468939
>NO-ONE in science gives a shit about your gender
that's not true in the slightest. ironically studies to prove as much have shown heavy bias on part of peer review as well as professors against the factual or logical soundness of work or studies where women are thought to be the project leader. Like most academic fields there is still a reflexive dismissal of women's work on the basis of literally nothing but gender. Case in point being that said studies have had opposed gender doubles pose as presenters to gauge reaction and again there is arbitrary scrutiny lobbed at female scientists regularly that are absent when a man presents a woman's work for review.

>>30469002
Source on those studies?

>>30468920
So they won't bother because they lack the ability to assert themselves, unlike the women who did? Fuck them, they weren't serious anyway.

>>30466847
Patriarchy.

>>30469002
As a millennial watching people who paid academia hundreds of thousands of dollars for postsecondary degrees get let go from tech careers because fifteen years passed, you'll have to forgive me for not treating academia's studies of academia like they were presented to me in a confident masculine voice by a guy in a lab coat and glasses with graying hair.

>>30467580
DEEPEST LORE

>>30466999
I'm studying chemical engineering and there are a shitload of women.

>>30469232
And none of them will actually graduate

These kind of topics always make for successful bait. It's sad.

>>30466875
Women in STEM get hired 2:1 over men for faculty positions. There's your sexism.
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/04/women-preferred-21-over-men-stem-faculty-positions

>>30466888
Trips of truth

>>30467580
Actually Canada's got the worst of it
>Canada region when

>>30469002
You can't mention studies to make your argument stand without sourcing said studies, anon.

>>30466847
>Women in STEM fields

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>>30469331
Say "us" if you can't figure out why the way the data presented in this chart makes it useless, sweetcheeks.

It's a shame there wasn't some recent major event of international concern that involved people collecting data and presenting statistics strongly supporting one outcome before getting blown the fuck out by reality to drive home the point that most people aren't qualified to read statistics, let alone present them. Something like an American Presidential election where the pollsters predicted a landslide for the loser.

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>>30466847

They are too sexy and do things to little boys

>>30469035
Maybe this is what than anon was talking about:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/unofficial-prognosis/study-shows-gender-bias-in-science-is-real-heres-why-it-matters/

>>30469605
http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21648632-recruitment-academic-scientists-may-be-skewed-surprising-way-unfairer

>>30469936
My PI told my labmates and me that this is true.
A lot of people in academia are aware that - historically - the field was not woman-friendly. Therefore they're trying to change that by favoring women if qualification is similar between two candidates.
In one or two generations things might be more balanced, and we might hopefully see a shift to less bias overall (and less whining to go with it I hope).

>>30466847
>One of these things is not like the other

Also, plenty of female NPC trainers are scientists.and I'm sure there are women that work in Mossdeep.

Not to mention Box admins like Bebe and Amanita are considered researchers as well.

>>30470054
>we were biased against women, that's bad
>I know, let's be beased against men instead

>>30470217
That's human nature to you.

>>30470054
>Therefore they're trying to change that by favoring women if qualification is similar between two candidates.

And people wonder why I'm starting to hate women

>>30470462
Just get better qualifications.

>>30470591
:^)

Women aren't able to get into logical reasoning

>>30470462
>>30470217
Are you two fucking retarded?

>>30470054
Lowering standards for STEM isn't a good thing, though. Especially when you're a company wasting spots on people you wouldn't have originally hired in the first place.

>>30467279
>platinum
>emerald
These are third versions. They're set in the same time period. Only B2W2 really counts as they're sequels.

>>30471288
>if qualification is similar
>lowering standards

>>30466847
The more freedom or choice that a culture allows for their women, the less likely they are to be in STEM fields. Our baseline assumption must be that the Pokemon regions are very free.

>>30466847
Japanese women are expected to become housewives. Cultural things and shit.

>>30471654
>The more freedom or choice that a culture allows for their women, the less likely they are to be in STEM fields.

Would you argue then that 100 years ago there were more women in STEM fields?
(I'm assuming we agree on the fact that 100 years ago there was less freedom of choice for women.)

Are you sure you worded that correctly? It makes no sense to me.

>>30471654
>>30471688
These conflict, so some clarification: If your culture allows people to choose their own profession, women are significantly less likely to choose STEM. If it is chosen for them by their family, and they are not in some regressive housewife/islam culture, they are much more likely to be in STEM. This is because the family wants a high-paying, prestigious profession to get money from their kids. Therefore, the Pokemon regions probably allow freedom of choice for women.

>>30471624
>What are gender quotas?

>>30471753
Not the point of the post that anon was responding to.

>>30471706
I can't speak to how much sense it makes, but it is a visible correlation of the modern day. So the statistics only say what they say.

>>30471752
>>30471752
>and they are not in some regressive housewife

Like mostly all cultures before the modern era?

>>30471753
>>30471780

For clarification, we were not arguing about quotas (externally imposed regulations), but about biases (internal conscious or subconscious preferences).

>>30471850
No? Being a housewife in a healthy culture is completely normal and hardwired biologically.

A regressive culture is one that takes "protection" of women too far into possession and only uses them for their biological traits.

Since we haven't seen any burka pokegirls, I think we're safe from that.

>>30466847
literally almost half of them
if anything, they're overrepresented in Pokemon

>>30466875
while it's true it's seen as a "man's profession" there's so much shit trying to get women into STEM like female only scholarships/programs
most of them just aren't interested
>>30467177
seize your existence
>>30468329
I'm studying engineering but I share some classes with other faculties. Most girls here are studying Medicine or something pharma related, but almost never civil, mechanical, petroleum, electro etc engineering

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>Come to thread expecting art of best girls
>Get fags arguing about shit instead

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>>30472986
I got you.

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>>30473036
Her assistant too.

>>30466847
The 4 we have are goddesses at least

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>>30473068
Only thing I got for Fennel is not safe, so have an Ivy as well.

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>>30472986

>>30466847
Japan

>>30473036
>>30473068
>>30473090
>>30473121
You're my hero, anon.

>>30467870

We as a population drastically overestimate those natural differences, though. Not to mention the fact that the persistence of them usually has a social basis behind it. When most human societies shun physically bulky women as being "ugly" but expect men to exercise and be muscular, it's no wonder that the average man will be physically stronger. It has biology at its basis, but social factors that make it true. The same goes for the other way around with things like raising children. People usually assume fathers, especially single ones, are incompetent/shitty parents because it's historically viewed as a women's job. When, really, other than the natural inclination for infants to attach to mothers because they provide most early touch due to feeding, there's nothing that makes women better parents than men.

Gender roles are really shitty, pointless rules we made up that are holding society back as a whole.

>>30469352

>Canada region when

Features a few small cities spread across an enormous game world, separated by endless, endless miles of trees (or flat featureless prairie). Every Pokemon Center has a Tim Hortons, you can give Double Doubles to your mons to prevent them from being put to sleep, but they hate the taste. The villains are a pushover because when you beat them, they believe that they won. All of the legendaries are some variety of moose.

one of them isnt even canon to the core games

>>30469936
The last line of that article:
>It might also give pause to those who think male economists are rational.

Are they trying to say that men favoring men by a small margin (~10%) in economics is irrational? Whereas women favoring women by a large margin (~35%) is rational?

>>30474776
Nah, I think it's more a jab at economists in general, because they make models where assumption #1 is all people act rationally.

>>30469434
Engineer here
Classes are total sausage fests
General consensus and talks with female colleagues prove that lack of women in engineering is due to the lack of weight the job title carries.

STEM careers that make you a doctor or equivalent are the ones women take up.

Engineers are still seen as the Dwarven Tolkien slaves

>>30471966
Women are meant to be covered in burkas :^)