>Masuda wants humans to not be the focus of the games >Ohmori

>>30437878
I support Morimoto focusing on the battles. I want a game where everyone has 6 pokémon with competitive sets. The Elite 4 challenge is now just a quest and Battle Frontier is the last challenge.

I would cum forever.

>>30437878
Masuda. I don't like escorting a waifu throughout the entire region and watching endless cutscenes.

They need to let someone else direct the next one.

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Pokemon can function just fine without a focus on humans or character development. If SM's story ended on a more generic tone with Guzma trying to blow up the Pokemon league or something, the game itself would still be great because in the end, what matters most is the gameplay (i.e quality of life improvements and battles.) If the story was fantastic but the gameplay was complete ass like D/P, the games would likely be universally loathed because, as I said, gameplay > story.

I'm pretty sure I remember hearing Ohmori wanting to go as far as heavy romance in Pokemon and if FE: Fates is any indication, we should keep Pokemon and dating sim elements as far away from Pokemon as possible.
I like Lillie, and SM's story was great, but pandering to people who in actually want dating sims allow the devs to get away with god awful writing that gets eaten up so long as the player gets a "You're now married!" message at the end.
It also brings the worst kinds of posters, imagine Chiken-chan shitposting amped up to the nth degree, except its with every character. Actual discussion of the story would probably be impossible because every thread would have mass waifuposting, but that's neither here nor there, since /vp/ is shit anyways.

>>30437985
I want a gen that focuses on competitive battles, with battle-obsessed NPCs and a "evil team" of competitive battlers.

I wouldn't mind escorting a NPC if it weren't for the fact that it nearly sacrificed the games' exploration altogether and made you feel like a fucking baby all the goddamn time.

I understand the concerns of everyone in this thread have, but I think they did the right thing.

I thought the battles were fun, and cutscenes didn't stop you from exploring; they added to it. The characters were fun and had great and likeable designs. The towns were a bit bland in this game, so the cutscenes made them much more memorable. Plus the Zygarde cells rewarded players for exploring more than the story required you to.

I don't think Pokemon would go the on FE route, ever.
They did add romance in it. They weren't wasn't even subtle about it. The whole story was about the relationship between the MC and Lillie.
But that made it better, in my opinion. It wasn't something slapped on top of everything just to pander waifufags. It was integrated into the story. I liked that. It was a great choice.

Personally, I'm happy about the direction it's heading in. I wish they would give us a skip button though. Replaying the game with long cutscenes isn't as fun. A skip button, even if it was only available after beating the game once, would be great.

>>30439566
I generally agree with you but the tutorial in Sun and Moon would be torture even with a skip button.

GF needs to slim dat shit down.

>>30437878
Yeah we got, lillie is your waifu, is cute and you want to protect her and fuck her.

She is also a terrible character and written like shit. Dont confuse both.

>>30439692
Yes, I get it. You hate Lillie.
But that's your personal opinion. Lillie is in fact a well written and nicely designed character.

>>30438394
>Evil team comprised of people who wish their competitive battling style is the only style in the world
I'd play it.

Heavy romance plot is absolutely not something that should be in a game that is technically aimed at children.

>>30440110
It's from Japan. They're a lot more carefree about these things.

>>30440110
who cares? they'll have sex when they're 10 - 12 anyways

>>30440067
someone enforces the stall meta somewhere in the web.

>>30437878
>HURR THIS IS MUH Z POWERED FORM
She's pure cringe

>>30437878
Masuda can suck a cock, XY was horrible and he knows it.

Ohmori's SM gather positive critics from the majority of fans, which is way more important than what memecritic has to say. Interesting stories without adding datsim shit while still improving/innovating on the competitive side - which is what really matters in the end - is what will attract more people to play pokemon.

Remember DP? It was a mess, shittiest game of the franchise. Remember Platinum? It fixed most of the fuck ups by adding a plausible story to that Galactic nonsense.

Mind you, DP introduced a huge improvement to battles in the form of splitting moves into physical and special rather than the types deciding it. That alone would warrant it to be a good game, yet the majority of people found the game so slow, both in battle (hit a Blissey, I dare you) and out of it with the fuckload of HM required. Not only that, the story was so not enjoyable that you were left with a game that had everything wrong but the postgame.

We don't want that kind of shit again.

I think they should balance it out more


I like character driven games, but pokemon at its core is an exploration and monster catching game and that core shouldn't be sacrificed for characters

I'd like if the character interaction was mostly focused on cities. You meet people after getting to a new place and relaxing, and the plot mostly happens then, but the moment you step out you're on your own free to explore, minus certain events and surprise encounters

I prefer Ohmoris style

I really liked giving more of a story to pokemon, and the actual development Lillie, Hau and Gladion all go through after meeting you was cool

Plus, having an actual connection to the box legendary was really nice

They should really add more skipping options though for people that aren't as interested in the story as others

I think focusing on characters and story is fine if
>Tutorials are optional and or toned down
>Cutscenes can be skipped and you can scroll through dialogue faster
>Not going full blown FE and avoiding romancing options
>Maybe a social link system that's optional and you can build your friendship with more characters and know more about them?
Ageee? Anything that could be added to this?

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I don't mind escorting npcs as long as they're great like Lillie. We've seen the "here's a dex and a pokemon go beat gyms and become champion" shit enough times.

I don't mind characters being more developed, but Lillie was an awful character that sucked up the whole plot and was incredibly bland waifubait.

Romance stuff should probably be added as an optional side thing,also the sheer amount of feminine pokemon this gen is kinda strange isn't it?

>>30440043
Yeah, we get it. You want to fuck this character. Do fuck off.

>>30437878
I feel this was for the best but I wish some of the focus on Lillie was given to other characters. Gladion carried the entire main climax of the game's narritive on his shoulders, and barely got any screen time before that. Most of the stuff about him and Null was delegated to background info you had to find.

Then theres the trial captains, who I don't think had enough screen time either. (and they should have had battles within the main story, I didn't find them until the The only characters who really got enough attention were Hau, Lillie, Kukui and Hapu.

>>30440193
>>30440110
Even the disney channel has romance these days

>>30441188
You had a main battle story with Ilima though. Now that I see it, why did they put the most effort into Ilima out of all the trial captains? Seriously, he never left you alone all throughout the first island and kept getting mentioned at the end.

>>30437878
I think this was for the best but I think they should have focused on more than JUST Lillie. Gladion carried the rising action of the narrative on his shoulders and barely got any screen time before hand. Most of the information about his character, and Type Null had to be dug up in the background.

Then theres the trial captains who each really should have gotten more. The only characters other than Lillie that got enough screen time, were Hau, Kukui and Hapu.

I'm not saying it was bad, if anything I'm saying the opposite. The cast was so likeable, I want to see more.

>>30441254
Oops, my old post had disappeared while I was typing, so I didn't think I posted it, so I rewrote it. Sorry everyone.

Boy, there will be nothing but complains if the next travellng companion will be a guy.

I want gays that hate Lillie to GO

>>30438305
Romance is the most mature element in storytelling when done correctly. Ohmura wanting romance doesn't mean a dating sim, which is disgusting.

We got Kukui and Burnet, a young couple of professors actually calling each other wife and husband. That was a first for the series, it was pretty sweet and they were great. I hope we get more characters like this.

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The Lillie stuff was probably planned from the beginning since there is really old SM concept art of a PC-trainer-looking character meeting with a blonde girl wearing a white dress with a hat and a bag. Also: MALE TRAINER CONFIRMED FOR CANON.