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>>30431976
No, I don't.

>>30431976
them being Ultra Beasts is a given

the biggest plot twist will be Arceus being the product of ancient alchemy instead of a meme god like we were led to believe all those years. After all Type:Null was just an imperfect Arceus.

>>30432714
Screencap this

>>30432714
I would be okay with that arceus retcon, after all the superpowered shit we've seen, a god pokemon is ridiculous at this point

>*tips fedora*

>>30432714
Fund it.

I think them along with arceus getting primal forms is more likely than them being Ultra beasts. Something tells me Ultra Beats will be something that is exclusive to Sun and Moon but I'm probably wrong since Game Freak likes to do stuff the fans don't expect

>>30432714
>yfw we fight 2 Cyrus in a double battle

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>>30431976
> Giratina retconned into being from Ultraspace from the very beginning

>>30432714
I like this idea

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>>30432958
>Giratina retconned into being from somewhere that even Ultraspace fears

Ultra Space is a whole new universe on its own, so it depends on where Arceus began and where, and I suppose also what it governs. If Arceus is god, does it mean god of this universe or multiple? It would still make it a god, but doesn't mean it's also the god of another universe, even if it can access the multiverse through portals etc.

It would mean that ultra space has its own type of arceus and time/space pokemon. Even if Arceus remains to be the same god in both dimensions, it wouldn't make it an ultra beast BECAUSE an ultra beast is a pokemon born within ultra space, similarly dialga and palkia were BOTH born within the standard universe and thus were born as non-UB. But I suppose that also means a dialga and palkia could be a UB if it were born in ultra space too. Giratina has its own dimension that is parallel to the standard dimenstion, meaning it is just a pocket clone of our universe that's governed by discord instead of order (laws of physics).

The difference here is that dimensions, namely the distortion world, run alongside the same universe. Ultra space is probably its own universe with its own dimensions.

>>30433162
Never fought competitively in platinum times but, is giratina even good?

>>30433177
youre forgetting that the original games and the remakes run on totally different universes. One where mega and Z powers were not discovered, and one where they were.
This reboot world could easily make them related to UB

>>30433207
i like to call it The Undying for a reason
ITS SO FUCKING BULKY