Nerfs and buffs in Gen 7

>>30431153
>uninspired design drops, while best water bird rises
nothign wrong with this

I'm curious to see what the dominant Gigalith set will be and where he ends up.
I figure Sand is far too strong for NU, but there's no goddamn way he's getting into UU/OU with Hippo and T-Tar being better than him up there.

>>30431208
He's the only one with sturdy. Suicide SR niche

And iirc weather abilities are relegated to only OU or high, here's to hoping they change that sometime soon

>>30431208
Hippo and Tyrant are OU, so it could end up in UU.
Then again, it has a shit movepool and shit typing.

>>30431153
I don't think losing levitate hurts Gengar THAT much

>>30431153
>people have trouble dealing with mega Gengar
>address this by nerfing normal Gengar
Nailed it guys

>>30431233
>i wonder where will sand stream take gigalith...
>HE CAN SEPARATE HIMSELF FROM OTHER SETTERS WITH STURDY!!!1

>>30431233
>He's the only one with sturdy
Sand Stream >>> Sturdy

>>30431246
It can no longer switch in on the scarfed variant of the most used Pokemon of ORAS OU.

>>30431208
He's the middleman of Tyranitar and Hippowdon

Gigalith has better attack and def then Tyranitar
But people really only use tyranitar for pursuit traping or DD mega

Hippo is the main defensive one

Gigalithe probably better suited for doubles

>>30431153
Dodrio with Jump Kick is interesting. It doesn't hit as hard as Staraptor, but it's faster and gets Swords Dance. Might do okay in UU on the off chance it survives long enough to set up.

>>30431153
>mfw the apprentice guy is the president and a mongoose pokemon

>>30431346
>But people really only use tyranitar for pursuit traping or DD mega

t. sub 1600 elo shitter

>pelipper becomes OU

explain

>>30431246
Everything is running EQ now to deal with Toxapex, Aegislash, and to a lesser extent Togedemaru as well as things like Salazzle and Alolan Marowak. M-Metagross is also one of the best Megas right now, and it lost access to Ice Punch, so EQ is the best coverage move to run on it.

>>30431462
We are in the era where memes are transcending into different mediums and reality

>>30431522
Rain setter with Hurricane, Roost, and slow U-Turn.

>>30431522
It now gets Drizzle as its second ability. Not even its hidden ability.

>>30431594
>>30431564
oh fug

never did I think that faggot seagul harassing me in the sea of gen 3 would ever be good

>>30431208
Ttar is OU for life. Hippo is borderline. It'll bounce between OU and UU like always. Whenever it drops to UU, Gigalith will drop to RU. Whenever it becomes OU, Gigalith will rise to UU.

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i really hope based Pellicanbro gets more love this gen, he deserves it after being a literal joke for all these years
fuck rocks though

>>30431702
When was Hippo UU or BL?

>>30431787
The first half of every gen. It takes several bans for it to rise up.

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>mfw GF killed Gengar of all things just to make Mimikyu worth using
How much you want to bet this'll get retconned in next year's "Pokémon Cloud?"

>>30431153
>Implying Gengar will drop even though it can now benefit from the new terrain meta while easily killing all of the terrain setters as well

>being this much of a clueless casual

>>30431994
How does it benefit from the new Terrain Meta? I haven't had much of a chance to mess around with Gen 7, unfortunately.

>>30431994
1st stage: Denial

>>30431994
>Diglett used EQ
>Gengar fainted

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>>30431153
>Aguav/Figy/Iapapa/Mago/Wiki pinch berries all got buffed to do 50%HP depending on your Nature

WHY is no one talking about this?

>>30432173
Sitrus Berry on suicide watch.

>>30431203
your taste is wrong

>>30432217
>fat purple blob with a face

It's literally Clefable with less details and even less thought put into its design.

>>30432173
Gluttony will see some more use to better use those berries.

>>30432055
Because it no longer counts as flying, so it gets psychic terrain's priority immunity and grass terrains leftovers boost, so its immune to sucker punch and its substitute set will see use on gimmick teams again

>>30432147
>switching Gengar into any attack
>being this bad at the game

>>30431153
>Gengar UU
>With the Tapus of healthy meta running amok.

so does gengar from XY and ORAS lose its ability when transferred over?

>>30431153
Have they given a reason why they made Gengar trash now? It makes no sense. Is game freak just retarded?

>>30431554

aegislash was banned

>>30432264
better than pelipper
it looks like a toilet with shitty wings

>>30432357
Yeah, it simply can't have Levitate as its ability anymore.

>>30432476
thats gay

>>30432357
Its ability is just changed to Cursed Body when it is transferred.

>>30432463
toilet > blob

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Does Arcanine become BL or OU because of Burn Up?

Do Moltres or Typhlosion get any more play at all because of it? I personally doubt Typhlosion goes anywhere because Burn Up doesn't really improve or change its niche of spamming Eruption with a scarf.

>>30432270
>implying it can switch in at all now
Sticky Web says hi

>>30432580
>Sticky Web
>good distribution
>choose one

>>30431279
Sad!

>>30432270
Oooh, that sounds really cool. Thanks Anon!

>>30432577
Burn Up is terrible. However you think it works, it doesn't work that way.

>>30432577
No, because no one runs offensive arcanine

Only moltres could use it to avoid 4x rock weakness but even then....

>>30432721
Please elaborate, I'm curious

>>30432648
>implying Smeargle isn't one of the most common suicide leads

>>30432721
Burn Up is great, what are you on about? Unless you're referring to offensive sets, in which case I'd have to agree. For defensive sets, however, it's fantastic, especially on Arcanine.

>>30432777
>suicide leads
shout out to gen 4

>>30432777
>implying suicide leads are worth using when most teams run Defog

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They could have at least given it Sludge Wave as a level-up move or something.

>>30431153
Is special Water Shuriken for Accelgor going to make a difference?

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>>30433994
Will probably see a lot more usage(but certainly not UU/OU level) as any Special Priority paired with even remotely mediocre Special Attack like Accelgor's is always a godsend, it's just mostly squandered on shit like Machamp.

>>30433326
Do 5 BP make that much of a difference?

>>30434636
I haven't run any calculations or anything, but it does make a difference especially after chip damage from things like Stealth Rock.

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>>30434636
With the raise of vgcucks around the corner Gengar loses Levitate & Icy Wind (for now) BUT gains the minor utility of eating Toxic Spikes. Plus it's always appreciated the ability to hit multiple targets, especially if your partner is Steel or has Telepathy.

And with Bulletproof Kommo-o running around it won't be able to come in scott free anymore, but then again you could just Gleam it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>30432721
*In Drumpf's voice*
Wrong!

>>30435677
>Drumpf's
COOL JOHN OLIVER REFERENCE DUDE!

>>30431554
aegislash is banned and marowak is only useful until pheromosa is banned. EQ will drop again as heatran is the best answer to steel types and people would rather take neutral choices for more coverage than EQ/earth power based teams to deal with tran. same will happen with toxapex

>>30435709
>marowak is only useful until pheromosa is banned
bruh

>>30431208
Hippo also isn't rock type