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ITT: forgettable pokemon

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>>30425099
ITT: Bait
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>>30425099
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How dare you.
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>>30425099
It hurts
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>>30425360
>>30425404
>>30425481
my point is proven by the fact that not a single one of you even tried to name this thing. you don't know it. i don't know it. in my mind this fucker is just a gay sharpedo.
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>>30425099
>Carvana, who evolves into Sharpedo and gets a bretty gud Mega

Nah, that's not forgetable at all, man.
Remember Girafarig?
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>>30425864
Yes.
There are some... captivating .gif s
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>>30425099
>forgetting pokemon

Casual scum
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>>30425099
Did this thing ever get any love at all?
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>>30426166
Nope.
It was meant to suffer.
Same with Corsola, but at least it got a cool stalker/predator.
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finneon
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>>30426166
>>30426207
Jokes on you I use one in doubles
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Only casualfags forget Pokémon. A true Pokémon Master never forgets.
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>>30425924
Post it
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>>30426246
It is no longer forgettable. It is now popular for being forgettable before along with its evolution.
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It can be forgetable if you remembered to make a thread about carvanha
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Top this.
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>>30426624
Sunflora.
>Bellossom didn't make it to Alola
>No Cacnea/Cacturne in the Desert
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>>30426624
Ok.
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>>30426318
Same with Qwilfish who was the poster child of forgettable mons at one point.
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>>30426794
alomomola, it can be an annoying ass during one of the totem fights this gen if you don't prepare for it so its got more recognition than normal now.
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>>30426624
kay
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>>30426794
Everyone will remember Alomomola because it's not related to fucking Luvdisc
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>>30425769
>gay sharpedo
>literally evolves into sharpedo
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>>30426732
>Bellossom didn't make it to Alola
>Yet there's a picture of a hula dancer with one in the main city of second island
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>>30427191
I remember it for being a fucking Blob who passes gigantor Wishes to my other mons.
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TOP

THIS
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>>30427306
Okay
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>>30427123
Man, I ran with a swalot in R/S. Good stuff.
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>>30427351
Fuck off. Grumpig was my bro in my Sapphire Nuzlocke. Too bad it was introduced in a gen with Gardewhore, Metagross and tons of other psychic types.
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>>30427306
I literally know a girl whose favorite Pokemon of all time is Stantler. Even when you think a Pokemon is completely forgettable, there's always that one person who loves it.
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>>30427351
>>30427482
I actually had no idea this existed.
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>>30425099
I haven't seen this fucker since B/W1. I think even Gamefreak forgot about it.
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>>30427685
He from Gen three and you wouldn't even know it evolve from this, which he was found in fuck nowhere
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I haven't seen this since Gen 4.
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>forgetting any of these

Get the fuck off my board
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>>30427306
Deer are my favorite hooved animals in real life. I want to like Stantler so badly but it's so.. ugly. Its tail is gross and its mouth is weird. I know what they were going for with the design but no tail at all would have been better than a giant tumor coming out of its butt
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>>30427702
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>forgetting any pokemon. Ever

What kind of casual do you take me for?

Just because i havent used any of the "forgettable" mons, doesnt mean i dont remember them
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>>30427874
at least they bought in more cute deers
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>>30427726
>Wouldnt know grumpig evolved from spoink

They are the only grey pigs in hoenn with a fucking pink ball on their face and curly tail and both psyhic. Youd have to be retarded to not make the connection

>found in fuck nowhere

Spoinks could be found in the volcanic path before lavaridge town. Git gud
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I DID NOT FORGET A SINGLE POKEMON FROM THE LIST ABOVE YET.

WTF AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE

I'M 30 YEARS OLD ALREADY

SHOULD I KILL MYSELF?
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>>30427726
wasn't that on jagged pass
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Name it. I doubt anyone can.
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>>30428248
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>>30428271
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>>30428248
I only remember it as the only bird pokemon that comes in night

>>30428271
cherry

>>30428298
Dick fish
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Notice how NO forgettable pokemons come from Gen 1?

Doesn't this confirm that Gen 1 is the best generation in terms of design?

>but muh details

Details don't matter. If they mattered, you'd remember Digimon.
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>>30428320
Flower Pokemon N#536
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The final boss.

Name it.

I dare you.
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Hello der
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>>30428382
I always wonder if catching that pokemon count as two since gun fish is on mantee fin
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>POST-GAME CHALLENGE

Is this a Pokemon or a Digimon?

Can you tell its name?
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>>30426624
Maractus was the only pokemon I've ever forgotten. I couldnt believe it was a pokemon the last time I saw it.
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>>30428382
FUCK THAT.

THIS IS THE REAL FINAL BOSS
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>>30428428
Not that would stop people from waifuing her
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>>30428457
pinco. Fucker is great for trapping
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OP, how could I forget Garchomp's face?
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>>30428428
Mienshao
gas the chus
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>>30425099
Carvanna and Sharpedo should had been Two seprate pokemon.
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-Chingling. Had to fucking Google its name.
-Qwilfish
-Cryogonal
-Whiscash
-Huntail
-Wormadam
-Gorebyss

>>30428298
All the Pokemon that exist and THIS fucker makes the cut in Sun/Moon.
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>>30425769
it's carnival something something
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>>30428382
mantine

>>30428271
cherubi

>>30428298
lumineon

>>30428248
noctowl

>>30427726
spoink

>>30427702
zebstrika

>>30428428
mienshao

>>30428457
pineco
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>>30427123
holy shit this
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THE POKEMON THAT GF FORGOT
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>>30427702
What's his pre-evo even called? I can recall zebstrika, but I can't recall the first stage.
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name this fucker
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>>30426794
one of the reason i remember this pokemon is because it's cry is literally wew
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>>30428559
Ze Durant Truant.
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>>30427191
This holy shit I will forever be mad about this
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...Guys?

Anyone?

I am most memorable :'(
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>>30428575
Eelektrik
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>>30428574
Blitzle
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Whats this one even called
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>>30426166
Pretty sure it was RU in Gen 6. I've used one before myself and it's surprisingly better then you would think.
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Why did Gen 2 have so many forgettable shitmons?

Was it because they were nearly impossible to capture in their own game?
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POST-END GAME SECRET FINAL BOSS
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>>30428327
Not really, Gen 1 has just been around for so long that nothing about could possibly be considered obscure
Also when there are only 151 mons in total it's a lot harder to miss one
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>>30428629
People remember that one because it has Huge Power.
>>30428650
Dunsparce is meme tier.
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>>30428650
Dumsparce.

It's memorable as hell.
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>>30428684
How can you forget DELELELELE WOOOOOOOOOP
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>>30428684
Best cry and violin bug
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Only remembered by people who want to fuck it.
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anyone...?

I can't remember a single pokemon from X/Y.
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>>30428684
Can't be forgotten thanks to that encounter rate and that ridiculous godsend of a cry
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>>30425099
>woodpecker into a toucan is wrong
>no one ever brings up a piranha evolving into a shark

yep, most definitely forgettable
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>>30428760
And what is it called?
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>>30428684
I DARE anyone to remember the name of his prevo. Not what he looks like - his NAME.
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>>30428694
>>30428720
Its never even been remembered im joto the region its from. Where do you even catch one?
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I don't even challenge you to remember its name.

I challenge you to remember it even existed.
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This is the one pokemon no one remembers. Go ahead, name it without googling it.
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>>30427702
the only reason i remember it is because i got a shiny of it over the summer
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>>30428729
>>30428745
>>30428760
>>30428785
What is its name?

Hurry up and confess you guys have no idea.
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>>30428849
Finneon
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>>30428849
Finneon.

I just caught one. Daily reminder that lots of Pokemon got cucked out of Sun and Moon, but Finneon is in. Bellosom? Nope. The fucking SUN AND MOON Pokemon? Nope. But here's Finneon.
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I keep forgetting that this even exists
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>>30428849
Finneon.

Get rekt.

I have a fish fetish, so this pokemon is special to me.

I leveled it to 100 thinking it'd evolve to Kyogre.
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>>30428828
that shit cave near the start you need flash to get around in that has nothing of value in it other than him
>>30428847
Clawncher
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>>30428784
Kricketune

>>30428847
nigga clawitzer was on my X/Y team. Water Pulse/Dark Pulse/Aura Sphere/Ice Beam was great.
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>>30427482
Grumpig ia a fucking god in R/S nuzlockes.
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>>30428874
Kricketune. Easy.

Now remember his prevo.

You literally can't
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>>30428924
Kricketot. Get rekt.
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Is this crap even a pokemon?
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what even is this
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>>30428965
>forgetting the ugly barnacle
Apologize.
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>>30428965
I HURT MYSELF TODAY
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>>30428751
Dragalgae had adaptability meteors and a good typing especially for when fairies got introduced.

What happened?
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>>30428784
it's called kriketune DELELELELE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
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>>30428965
A Megaman X boss.
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>>30428847
this pokemon is legit cool, it seriously should've gotten pushed harder.

>>30428428
There's so much porn of mienshao, it's hardly forgettable.
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>>30428751
I ran it in my UU team, good times. Cucks Fairies and good for Toxic Spikes.
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>>30428874
Kricketot: Prevo
Kricketune: Evo

Doned without googling.
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>>30429063
DOVAHKIN
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By gen:

1: Venomoth
2: Fucking everything
3: Cacnea
4: Mothim/Wormadam
5: Heatmor
6: The "plague mask" thing. Can't even fucking remember the name.
7: Gonna take a swing and say it'll be Oricorio.
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>>30428579
What the fuck is this thing?
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>>30428902
That's Clawitzer you Idiot.
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>>30429188
Dubs of Wisdom.

Eh, I don't know either. Charizard?
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>>30429022
Scrafty is the best dragon dancer in the game. try harder.
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>>30428248
>>30427306
>>30426166
>>30428898
Looking back, Johto had an unusually large number of shitty, forgettable pokemon, - pokemon that just got power-seeped as time went on

Pic related
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>>30429180
kys yourself
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>>30429307
Sorry your favorite Pokemon is a forgettable shitmon.
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>>30429290
>Not liking Ledian

What the hell Is wrong with you?
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>>30425099
Carvanha and Sharpedo have always been bro mons for me. Who the hell remembers Sunkern/Sunflora?
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>>30426624
N-No ;-;
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>>30429346
I like it's design.

But everything about it is shit. It's always been shit, and each gen it just gets worse and worse.
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>>30429180
I think for this gen, nobody is going to remember bruxish
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My first memories of /vp/ are Maractus. Something about her and Mr Krabs, as well as Meloetta and grilled cheese or frosting or something.

What happened bros?
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>Gentlemen, how do we make Chimecho a good pokemon?
>Let's give it a pre-evolution that's even more pathetic than it!

>>30429488
I fucking hate Jumpluff. I don't know why, but I saw a lot of it in games.
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>>30426624
Nice design Maractus but you need buffs alongside other Pokemon like Dunsparce, Sunflora, and etc.
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Being a casual shitter should be bannable
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>>30428898
> not liking light dolphin

I bet you are a gen twee wanker aint cha?
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>>30429537
Trade evo + evo item was a mistake
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>forgetting any Pokemon ever
you people disappoint me

But for real, it's really more along the lines of "certain Pokemon being more memorable than others".
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>>30428248
Noctowl? The dude that evolves from Hoot-hoot?
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>>30429448
you mean the yo-kai watch one?
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>>30427874
I dont know what the fuck they were doing with stantler.
Looks more like a moose mixed with a reindeer, and gets the best parts of neither one.
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>>30429448
The only one I saw was one an npc had.
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>TIL this thing exists
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>>30428676
the worst part is that the NPCs don't even use them either. These are ones that I'm pretty sure no one owns in the game and have abysmal encounter rates:

Larvitar/Tyranitar (I think there's an NPC who uses a Pupitar)
Ledian (easy to get but no one uses it, not even bug catchers)
Heracross
Pineco
Dunsparce
Politoed
Misdreavus
Sunkern
Sunflora
Skarmory
Scizor
Togetic
Chinchou/Lantern (I might be wrong with these two. I know you can only catch them at night in specific towns with a super rod. I'm not sure if any NPCs use them)
Pichu/Igglybuff/Cleffa/Magby/Elekid/Smoochum (but only in GS as opposed to Crystal where you get the Odd Egg)

So you're most likely not going to encounter around 20 of the 100 new Pokemon on your first playthrough of GS. That's pretty substantial.

Some of these are just baffling too. How would anyone even realize something like Politoed even exists? The Kings Rock makes sense to use with Slowpoke, but not really with Poliwhirl. Same thing with Scizor. We know Steelix exists because of Jasmine and that guy with the Metal Coat on the SS Aqua. Nothing hints at a Scyther evolution.

I always wonder if Gold and Silver were designed this way in order to sell more guides and Nintendo Power subscriptions.
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>>30429758
half reindeer half moose
100% disappointment
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>>30429628
>Gen 3
Fucking what? Why would they forget Lanturn then? Chinchou was like damn near the only thing you could find when diving
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>>30426166
It's noteworthy for fucking up my pots and pans but not much else.
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>>30429909
is that from sun/moon? haven't played them yet
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>>30429956
Bergmite from X/Y, it evolves into Avalugg.
Unfortunately they both suffer from a terminal case of Ice type.
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I've never seen this thing anywhere in any pokemon game or on the internet
i only remember it exists when i try to complete the pokedex
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>>30429859
>So you're most likely not going to encounter around 20 of the 100 new Pokemon on your first playthrough of GS. That's pretty substantial.

Gen 2 was a mess.
The only available dark-type before the E4 was Umbreon IF you had the time to level up an Eevee.

Misdreavus, Larvitar and Sneasel could only be found right after you cleared Kanto and gained access to Mt. Silver. And Larvitar was only found at level 20.

Houndour, Grimer, Clefairy, Pikachu, Slugma and Murkrow were only available in Kanto.

Pineco and Heracross were a pain in the ass to get, especially if you didn't had any guides back in the day; also, it happened with the Tyrogue from that dude in Mt. Mortar.

No Arcanine, Eeevolutions, Starmie, Poliwrath, Vileplume, Victreebel, Raichu, Ninetales, Exeggutor or Cloyster in Johto because elemental stones weren't available until you reached Bill's Cottage in Kanto and showed him a few mons.
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>>30428785
Krickatot or something?
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>>30425099
What? Carvanha is God-tier and evolves into my favorite Pokemon of all time. Fuck out with this shit.
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>>30430589
To this day I think that trying to get hitmontop from tyrogue was fucking impossible. I'm still fucking ass ravaged about what they did with hitmontop's 3D model.
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>>30430903
sentret's model is horrible too. The whole point of Sentret's design is that it uses its tail to get a good look around and observe whatever its fighting

Johto pokemon always get fucked over
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>>30431202
I always remember this one because of a scene from Billy Madison where he draws a blue duck.
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>>30431135
It's ironic that the pokemon stadium games had models with more lively animations and poses than the mainline games. Jesus christ, flying pokemon actually fucking flapped their wings in those games, Skarmory, for example, looked a hell of a lot better when it was on the ground looking like a pissed off metal emu instead of in that static flying pose it has now.
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Oh shit, it's the superboss to end all superbosses.
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>>30428575
>>30428629
>>30428684
>>30428965
>>30429467
>>30429909

LITERALLY WHO
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>>30431439
Eelektrik
Bunnelby
Kricketune
Barbaracle
Maractus
Bergmite
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>>30430008
>that weird ass fucking out of place crystal on the sides of his head
Sometimes the design team makes some weird decisions, would've been pretty neat otherwise
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>>30430903
>>30431135
In all fairness, Hitmontop is doing one of those capoeira stances and Sentret is in a battle so it's not like it needs to get a view of the opponent.
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>>30429043
2 slow
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>>30431262
It's actually kind of surprising how much more effort were put into the Stadium models than the XY/SM ones. Every Pokemon had an idle animation and two attacking animations. In XY/SM, most Pokemon are missing idle animations for whatever reason, like most unpopular/unevolved. It's weird because things like Pikipek and Toucannon have them but not Trumbeak. Some Pokemon only get a single attack animation on top of no idle animation, like Sandile, Bonsly, Charjabug, and Gastly.

I didn't mind it in XY since GF had to design 721+ models for a single game but SM only introduced around 100 new models to do. They could have put a bit more effort into them.
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>>30428747
Nice try fuggit
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>>30431352
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Everyone can go home now.
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Even if you remember this thing you probably forget it evolves into Octillery, or that it is required to evolve Mantyke, or for that matter that Mantyke even exists.
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>>30428327
It's hard to forget that trash when game freak refuses to stop shilling it
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>>30429180
Plague mask? The only mask mon i can think of is Yamask, and thats gen 5
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gen 3
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>>30432085
He's referring to Spritzee. Before XY came out, the fandom swore up and down it'd become a pokemon based on a plague doctor.
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You casual faggots make me sick
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>>30432282
Ohhh, I see. Makes sense, since it's perfume, which is what the plague doctors kept in their bird masks anyways. Holy shit, now I'm mad about its fucking evolution being so shit
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>>30430903
Hitmontops model is actually one of the good ones, it's doing Caporea which is the fighting style its based off
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>>30430589
>No Arcanine, Eeevolutions, Starmie, Poliwrath, Vileplume, Victreebel, Raichu, Ninetales, Exeggutor or Cloyster in Johto because elemental stones weren't available until you reached Bill's Cottage in Kanto and showed him a few mons.

You forgot the best part: Bill only ever gives you ONE of those stones each, and they expected you to get more by either trading to RBY or using the Mystery Gift function exclusive to GBC.
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>>30432659
they did this shit again in SM with the ice stones and other past gen stones. You can get them with poke pelago but that takes forever. It's basically the same thing as as GBC Mystery Gift since it's once every 24 hours.
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>>30428320
>Implying owls are birds
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>>30432770
They also removed some evolution items from the BP shops.
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>>30428515
They are.
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Name it
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>>30433140
beheehrashiraham
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>>30428298
thing is, I think this guy is getting recognized now because he was forgettable
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>>30428298
Alola form Vaporeon
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>>30425924
Don't leave us hanging anon
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>>30433140
Elgeyem
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>>30427702
I only remember this thing because of Elesa
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>>30430589
Giving you Bellsprout so early was retarded because of this. I think they were trying to make you use Umbreon/Espeon, Politoed and Bellosom instead of the alternatives but there´s no excuse for all the others.
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Literally one of the most irrelevant pokemon ever. And it flies completely under the radar of pokemon that are -known- for being forgettable like Lumineon and Alomomola.
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>>30433555
I wish I could find my Seel plushie I had from back in the 90s.
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>>30426794
really? this thing is such a stall cunts wet dream
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>>30428948
Heliolisk is perfection. Not too overdesigned, but still interesting. Best electric type. Plus, the shiny looks like Kuzco.
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>>30425360
Yes, bait to catch a Sharpedo.
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>>30429448
Strong jaw psychic fangs and swords dance aqua jet will MAKE them remember.
also I feel like the only person on the goddamn planet who likes this ugly fish
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>>30426794
How could I possibly forget about this?
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>>30431352
The crazy thing is I forgot about mothim for years until it randomly showed up in one of my dreams one day. Ive hated Wormadam and Burmy as my least favorite Pokemon for almost 10 years and somehow forgot it had an actually nice looking split evo. Mothim has since become one of my favorite Pokemon.

I really want a shiny one but it's not worth the risk. Shiny mothim is beautiful yellow and Sky blue. Wormadam just gets a slight blue shade. Gender evos is such a curse
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>>30426166
This thing is actually pretty good in randombattles on Showdown.
>thunderwave
>taunt
>spikes
>destiny bond
>toxic spikes
>can remove toxic spikes
>intimidate
>decent typing

Its too bad this thing has shit stats.
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>>30426624
i can never forget maractus, it was the last to die in my white 2 nuzlocke
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>>30425864
>Carvana
You couldn't even spell its name right! And no, I actually didn't remember Girafarig.
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this
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Does this thing even exist?
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>>30434241
Did you not play any of the mystery dungeon games? Or any gen 3 games?
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No one ever talks about this guy
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>>30434397
I'm sore about this.
>Only ever encounter Baltoys when the remaining Gyms and E4 are all specializing in types that Claydol is weak to

You don't have a good chance to bond with him during the single-player.
You have to play competitive or post-game to care about Claydol, so of course he's forgotten.

>People think Hoenn was the best region
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>>30434500
Technically, the next gym is neutral either way, at least.
And...he's resistant to the twins, I suppose? Though fat load of good that does when they're resistant back.
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why do you faggots even play this game if you forget names of any pokemon ever

if youre posting on this board and cant even name off every pokemon from their sprite, you should go elsewhere
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if you can't name everything in this thread you don't really like pokemon
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>>30431912
The problem with Gen 2 mons makes a pretty extensive list now that I think about it.
>Draws a large amount of it's designs from unused gen 1 mons
>Extremely horrible mon placement and usage in their home generation
>fucking BABY POKEMON

At the end of the day Gen 2 is also ultimately hamstrung by being the gen after the introduction gen but before the one which gave pokemon abilities, where a lot of mons derive their flavour. Without that they are basically Typing and Stats and boy did a lot of Gen 2 pokemon have shit stats. Any flavour they did attempt was mostly based in typing e.g. Heracross, Scizor, Skarmory and there were a few really neat designs like Steelix and Xatu.

Feraligatr is still by favourite Water starter and that can't be changed
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>>30428965
heretic!
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>>30429785
this is the best one yet for me
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>>30431964
HERESY!!!!!!!
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>>30436022
Xatu best gen 2 design.
Xatu best ability.
Xatu best Pokémon.
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>>30427874
Oh yeah Stantler is a thing
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>>30425532
>Implying anyone could forget the most bullshit totem fight ever
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>>30436471
Wasn't even that hard.

Just get a flying type +acrobatics.

What, that castform too scary for you anon?
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>>30428948
I used Heliolisk as my first pair in double competitive and it usually was the last one standing
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>>30436471
>he didn't have brobat for the 6th time
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>>30428428
>Mienshao
>forgettable

Is this bait?
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>>30425532
I one shot everything in the grass trial.
Basic boi intensifies
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>>30428271
ooh, i 'member this
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>>30428650
>not knowing dunsparce
Kys
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>>30427726
These are memorable because of the Pokedex entry
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>>30430589
I distinctly remember using Houndour as my main pokemon my first time through Crystal. Maybe that was a Crystal thing. I don't remember what I relied on in Silver.
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>>30429909
bergmite is top-tier
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>>30427123
>>30428847
>>30431964

Only ones ITT I forgot.

>>30428382

It's probably going to be OU this gen. Regardless of what you think of Smogon, people will remember Mantine now.
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>>30428271
'member gen 4?
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>>30431202

>Gyarados gets Z-Splash and Hurricane
>Pelipper gets Drizzle
>Mantine gets Roost and more HP
>Swanna gets nothing

It truly is the most forgettable.
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>>30425532
As long as the Totem is still there, no one will ever forget it.
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>>30440456
>forgetting nu bra Carl
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>>30429853

Actually used this guy in 3edgy5me Pokemon Reborn and he saved my ass too many times. Gear Grind hit like a truck. Even my starter died before him.
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I usually don't think pre-evos should count for this sort of thing but I recently got one of these from Wonder Trade and was honestly confused for a second.
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>>30431912
It makes me sad because most of my favorite Pokemon like Skarmory and Sudowoodo are from gen 2, but because most of them are garbage competitively you just forget that they exist.
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