This is something I can get behind.
> implying there are going to be more megas in the future
please give him a mega. He is my second favorite Pokemon.
>>30424123
>>30424534
The next region to be remade is based on evolution alone, we're getting new mega's
>>30424123
that magmortar looks weirdly feminine
>>30424565
This. If Sinnoh gets remakes, it's highly likely
>>30424547
I wish.
>tfw no Mega Yanmega
Yanmega is called Mega Yanma in Japanese, so a Mega Yanmega would be called Mega Mega Yanma.
Make it happen, Gamefreak.
>>30424565
>>30424609
my predictions
>mega starters
>mega electivire
>mega magmortar
>mega luxray
>mega weavile
>mega lickilicky
>mega spiritomb
>mega bronzong
>mega floatzel
>>30424123
>Magmortar looks even worse
Impressive. I didn't think it was actually possible.
Bisharp
>Zoroark
>Dragonite
>Pangoro and Ursaring
>Eevee and every Eeveelution
>Johto/Sinnoh/Unova starters
>Meloetta (or just an item/method outside of relic song to transform)
>Heracross
>HitmonsSilvally
Lets make this more interesting. What stat boost would you give to the mega you want.
>ps not op
>>30424671
And a few other non gen 4s for good measure, like how mega audino was introduced.
>volcarona
>vileplume
>>30424769
Any more blades and it'll non memetically look like a Digimon.
>>30424803
If is Gen V, it has to be the most useless mega possible. I suggest Mega Basculin.
Or if GF wanted to rustle some jimmies, Mega Alomomola for maximum Unkilleablity with Triage. Or Mega Conk.
>>30424671
>Probably same types
>Electric/Fighting!
>Fire/Dark? (Mega launcher is a given)
>Electric/Dark
>Same typing
>Normal/(no clue. probably pure normal)
>same typing and some broken ability (Wonder guard now that fairies exist?)
>same typing
>water/fighting?
Some guesses
>>30424123
I'm gonna need Garchomp to get Dragon Dance and a new Mega that will destroy Mega Salamence's sisspussy.
>>30424641
This
Plus Sinnoh mega starters and I'll be happy
>>30425044
Yanmega is the ultimate design. You just can't do anything without fucking it up.
>>30425044
If they just gave all the starters megas in one gen I wouldn't mind. Maybe if they didn't for the gen 7 starters yet I could understand but nearly every starter is a shitty suffering mess to use right now and needs help
>>30424123
what a fucking missed opportunity
All I want in life
I want tons of Unovamons to get Megas, it's be hilarious to see how powerful Meta Chandelure would be.
>>30425044
Thats both fucking great and fucking stupid.
Love the design, but it looses a good chunk of its peripherical vision.
>>30425103
How would mega Greninja work? Just literally Ash-Greninja, but some better stats and an actual ability as a trade off for the item that you can use with Ash-Greninja?
>>30425191
It becomes Ice/Dark
>>30425252
Wouldn't that just be much worse? Unless it has Protean of course. Typing doesn't matter with that shit
>>30424671
>no chatot
>no chimecho
>no snorlax
>no sudowoodo
>no skuntank/purugly
>no drapion/toxicroak
>no mismagius/honchkrow
>no froslass
>no drifblim
>no vespiquen
>no gen 2 starters
fight me
and honestly magmortar/electivire dont even need megas they just need their second ability slot fulled with something not shit
like give galvanize to electivire and mega launcher + pulse moves to magmortar and they wouldnt be so starved for a boosting option
>>30425362
>no froslass
As much as I want the others you posted this is probably the only likely one due to her counterpart getting a mega
>>30425073
I remember someone at game freak saying something like this =, they didnt give alot of pokes mega evolutions because they simply couldnt make up a better design... sounds like a lazy excuse if you ask me..
>>30425283
That's the point.It has a fire weakness:^)
>>30425457
Mega Honch and Mismagius are also likely considering they were the two to introduce the dusk stone
>>30425515
They said that if the design doen't get aproved by most of the staff it just gets dropped.
They said they had multiple Mega Flygons that were aborted.
>>30425362
>mega mismagius
Yes please, I used her for the first time in Sun and Moon and she carried my team through the game.
Mega Mewtwo Z
Mega Charizard Z
>>30425573
You know, that is something interesting.
What would make for a good design for Mega Flygon?
>>30425632
A grave
Just give me a fucking Mega Haxorus and I'll be happy. At least a fan-made please.
>>30425632
I've yet to see a good one. Every fan design just over complicates it by adding tons of features to normal flygon
But I'd say if it stays ground then make it look more like a ground type.
If it goes bug/dragon then go more for the dragonfly motif
>>30425607
thank you satan
>>30425763
I've yet to see any decent fan mega. Especially for Sigilyph, Jesus Christ
>>30425781
>not 666
Off yourself, that's just Beezlebub
>>30425632
Being the guy your are replying to, I have no fucking idea.
Really.
>>30425763
So, I was searching random Mega Flygon fan-mades and found this. I really like It. Even looks like an official artwork imo.
>>30425632
its actually really difficult to include the antlion design features in flygons preexisting design without clipping its wings and stepping on toes, youd have to make something that "flies" through the ground or something like that
dragon/ground with arena trap would be fantastic though regardless of stat distribution
>>30425908
Remove the leg pads and make the "feet" solid like the outer wing's coloring and it would be alright desu.
>>30425818
Every Sigilyph fan-mega is utter shit because they try to either go way abstract or make it into a real bird. They need to look at the source material first. Like I'd probably wager that if Pokemon ever gave it a mega it'd be based off of the Nazca Condor since its base form is the Hummingbird
mega tauros and mega miltank
>>30425818
>I've yet to see any decent fan mega
I'm really fond of this one
>>30426148
why would mega poliwrath be anything other than chubby beta design poliwrath
>>30425908
it should definitely be more serpentine
and i feel like the fangs should form into something more pincer/beak-like
mega shedinja with the same abilty and a ghost/ dark typing
Tomy usually makes the best megas although even some of his suffer the general problem of most fan made mega
>>30426280
Who wants a Mega Probopass in the first place?
>>30426280
I like it but it barely resembles a compass or a Maoi. This is my main issue with fan megas. They don't look into the original inspirations
>>30424123
>>30425362
>mega snorlax
Big, mean steamrolling machine that is.
>>30425908
And then I found this. Samefag btw
>>30426388
yes
with early bird
>>30424123
Mega-Pelipper
Mega-Stantler
>>30424909
A lot of the things I see make it into some sort of Centaur. Not my cup of tea but its whatever.
>>30426317
>Slowly cringes
>>30425818
Mega Kekking gets Iron Fistand additional balk
>>30426388
>>30426421
What would the dex entry be? Snorlax went into hibernation after gorging himself and he just woke up?Steel/Normal
>>30426353
>>30426519
<- That reaction was meant for this. God, I'm blind.
Gengar and Zam got one. Why not him?
>>30424671
Mega-Froslass? Since Glalie got one already.
>>30424123
THICC
>>30426836
Golem would need one too.
>>30426860
What would the typing be? Pure ghost?
Garbodor
Heatmor
Rapidash
>>30426913
probably still ghost/ice
just with more than 90 spa
it doesnt take much to make froslass good
>>30426317
I do. It's one of my favorites.
>>30426913
I don't know, still Ice/Ghost I would say. It's typing isn't that bad (but mostly thanks to Ghost removing one of Ice major's weakness)
>>30427054
>>30427083
So stats would help it, what about the movepool changes that would possibly come from it being in Sinnoh and having tutors?
>>30426913
Ice/Ghost
Make her stats be 70/80/95/115/95/125
>>30427119
Give her a decent water move and a decent fairy move so she can deal with most of her weakness
>>30427270
She has draining kiss, if she could learn fucking dazzling gleam she could probably be better equip. Would giving her Aura sphere be overkill?
>>30427119
i mean what does it really need
it gets hazards, taunt, every status, dbond, true boltbeam, stab shadowball
maybe like perish song and freeze dry, thats about all its missing
it kinda does need ability focus on what niche its supposed to fill though, right now its used as an antilead but its too weak to be great
>>30426148
>El Sapo.
I like it
>>30427181
Would those stats be mega form or just a buff?
It should've happened last gen. Fuck them.
>STILL no mega Golurk where the seal breaks
>>30427301
Aura-sphere is probably overkill and doesn't really fit to her theme
>>30427358
Mega-form, it's way too much for a buff
choo choo
>>30427424
>Implying Mega Klinklang isn't just more gears
>>30427442
I kind of want it see it be some kind of gear cube
>>30427496
A Gearbox?
We need more Ghost megas
>>30427511
No something good like a gear cube
>>30427603
Oh god Mega spiritomb would be horrific. A shame Trevenant isn't a hangman's tree
>>30427603
At first I thought that Dusknoir was giving me two thumbs up.
>>30427603
Noirest Dusk.
>>30426388
>>30426421
>>30426542
A slow, bulky powerhouse withVital SpiritNormal/Fighting
>>30427603
Holy shit, Mismagius, Dusknoir and Trevenant look fucking amazing.
Spent an hour on this, because I am slow. give abilities/types to these guys, aside from Purugly, who I think would get Fur Coat/Fluffy
>>30424123
>>30424609
Just like it was "highly likely" SM would have new megas right?
>>30428555
editor's note: this was before we knew about the gale wings nerf and various stat buffs
Does anyone have any concepts for mega spirotomb? Cuz now that Im thinking about it, it sounds pretty badass.
>>30428555
Mr mime can't be a fairy type ever since that'd likely be considered offensive
>>30428555
I need a Mega Rhyperior so I can like the Rhyhorn line again
Mega Butterfree
60>60
45>15
50>50
90>160
80>80
70>130
Ability: Tints Lens? Or Adaptability maybe?
Still bug/flying
>>30428683
you realize he's already a fairy type
>>30425908
>>30426417
>>30428708
Holy shit you're right. How the fuck did they get away with that?
>>30428555
>limber weavile
>not technician
>>30428860
>Refrigerate Weavile
FTFY
>>30428758
Because literally no one gives a shit about mr. mime
>>30424534
we didn't get more megas this time around because they focused on alolan forms and Z-moves
if gen 8 doesn't introduce any particular new gimmick we might see new megas, at least for remakes
>>30426256
please don't touch my bro
not like that design is so bad, but you just know they'd change way more than that
>>30424123
Image related is the totality of the megas I want in the future, because megas were a gay mistake that ruined the fucking game
>>30428860
>muh technician Ice Shard
ew
Not every pokemon can be Scizor
Refrigerate or go home
>>30430223
>>30429020
Megas are supposed to be strong, not fucking broken.
>>30430261
Says who?
>>30427603
>those designs
>>30427603
Mismagius looks like those jellyfish from that Will Smith movie where he plays a fish.
>>30428439
I'd add Machamp in the "parallel" section just so that the original 3-staged trademons are complete, but yeah. This seems to be the most accurate list so far.
>>30430416
But anon, there's 4 trademons
>>30428439
I'd add Mismagius and Honchrow since they introduced the Dusk Stone and were version exclusives.
>>30430261
>what was m-kanga
>what is m-salamence
>>30430609
Not nearly as broken as Refrigerate Weavile with those stats.
>>30430609
>what are outliers
Mega mom and mence are not the benchmark for megas you fucking twat. They're extremes.
>>30426341
Idk bro, top down that looks pretty "compassy" to me.
>>30427663
Detective Oogie Boogie
"Each time we make a new game, we think of particular theme and of particular elements that would work well with that game," Masuda replied when asked if Mega Evolution might return. "This time we have our Z-moves [but] if a game comes up in future that we think [Mega Evolutions] would work really well with, certainly we'll look into it... But for the minute we don't have any particular plans."
They're probably not bringing them back for the DP remakes. It's much more likely that we'll see a continuation of this gen's gimmicks, similar to XY and ORAS. More Z-moves and probably some Sinnoh forms. They don't even have to explain their appearance now that they've retconned/destroyed the previous Pokemon world.
>>30431817
>destroyed
Shouldn't it be fine? The meteor was stopped.
Not that we'll ever go back, but still.
mega meganium when?
>>30428439
>Mega regigigas
>Hability: Even lower start
>Regigigas becomes a fat fuck who can't move for 8 turns
>>30429692
Mr. Mime is a house spirit.
>>30432345
>Primal Regigigas
>Ability: Fast Start
>Doubled attack and speed for the first 5 turns.
>>30425632
Nobody knows. People that love Flygon love it as it is. They just want the stat boosts and a different ability.
>>30432540
GG ez life P.Groundon.
>>30432605
So they don't want the con with a mega. What babbies.
>>30430416
>I'd add Machamp in the "parallel" section just so that the original 3-staged trademons are complete
The Gengar-Alakazam pair already is. Neither member of the Golem-Machamp pair has a mega, so there's nothing to parallelthough Machamp should have gotten a fucking Alolan form
>>30433063
Maybe it'll get a sinnoh form:^)
What would even be a good alt typing for it?
>>30425632
We already have one.
Keep in mind that you might want your favorite pokemon get a mega, but does your pokemon want it? We all know now that half of the pokemon that went through the mega phrase has some bad shit going on with them.
It'd be cool if a pokemon with an alolan form got a mega evolution and the same mega stone would just make two different megas.
regular mega and alolan mega.
>>30424123
>take two neat gen 1 monsters
>evolve them into abominations in gen 4
>evolve them into further abominations in gen 7
sure why not
>>30425113
The fire coming from it's hips would burn its hands and the side of its chest. Wow great design
>>30433298
I wish they gave them a proper evolution that doesn't look retarded. At least it implies that they don't evolve into those abomination unless force to by their trainers, and eviolite is still a thing.
>>30431997
The meteor was stopped in this world, was it stopped in the other? I thought Zinnia was implying that the other world was doomed by asking what would happen to a world without mega evolution, since without it Rayquaza wouldn't save the day.
>>30424123
>implying
Gamefreak would pick one of them to get a Mega and never give the other a mega.
>>30433298
Honestly, I always though that the only one that didn't fit Electabuzz's line is Electabuzz itself.
The design is from the era when they did spritework first and then let the artists interpret what the fuck were they seeing.
Electivire is visually fantastic, and Magmortar tries to make sense of what the fuck is Magmar supossed to be. Rhyperior is a great asset, but I can believe why Rhydon fans don't like it.
>>30433367
It hit off the coast of Kanto.
>>30428641
And other things. Limber on Mega Weavile is now even more useless (since the ugly genie cant t wave it because dark types got immune to prankster)
>>30433367
>was it stopped in the other?
It heavily implied that the meteor was Dexoy's car and can stop at anytime and in the gameboy era, it turns into an island. If you want to get extremely meta, it happen in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon where it just made a hole in a mountain instead of destroying it.
In other word, the good people at ORAS were worrying over nothing
>>30424123
Aside some things that were mentioned in this thread, i would realy like mega chandelure? more SpAtk and a bit more speed.
This is a really bad idea, but I really want to know how GF would handle making a Mega Ditto
>>30425607
>>30424123
What. There are not going to be any more megas. Gamefreak already dropped half of them and excluded them from Sun and Moon.
>>30433902
Ability becomes Mega Imposter, transform copies the target, but gives every move a 20% bonus power.
Can you imagine the cancer?
>>30427420
>implying Mega Golurk isn't just attaching wings to Golurk and giving him Aerilate
>>30424923
Double Mega Garchomp or Mega Garchomp Mega, with a new ability that is huge power but with speed
>>30434012
Their models are still in the game, and they can be seen in the battle tree.Unobtainable? Yes, but they are still there, Also, if i remeber correctly, Game Freak people said that they are dropping megas until there will be appropriate theme for a game, so they can introduce more of them.
Picking 5, I'd like to see Mega Weezing, Mega Yanmega, Mega Chimecho, Mega Xatu, and, just to see how they try to pull it off, Mega Wobbuffet.
>>30434039
Don't even joke about it, we would end up with the sword that slayed Mega Fug.
>>30428612
No just as it was highly likely they would still be there.
>>30428439
I'd add:
>Togekiss
Same typing
Serene Grace
HP: 85
Attack: 60
Defense: 120
Sp.Atk: 140
Sp.Def: 140
Speed: 100It gets Moonblast
>Honchkrow
Ability: Moxie or Fluffy
HP: 100
Attack: 155
Defense: 67
Sp.Atk: 115
Sp.Def: 67
Speed: 101
>Mismagius
Keeps Levitate
Either pure Ghost or Ghost/Psychic
HP: 60
Attack: 50
Defense: 80
Sp.Atk: 135
Sp.Def: 135
Speed: 135
>>30424123
>Mega Johto Starters
>Mega Persian
>Mega Delcatty
>Mega Arbok
>Mega Ledian
>Mega Lapras
>>30424641
>tfw no Mega Meganium
>>30424671
>>30425362
people arent mentioning mega blissey and how it could just fucking steamroll the world
>tfw you just know GF would give it points in attack and/or special attack for some reason
>>30433340
>Fire type
>Getting burned
I wish. Maybe flareon would be a little more viable then
leave fairies to me.
>>30434144
>YFW Mega-Mega-Fug+30 to its attacking stats, +10 to defenses and +20 to speed, just like going from Fug to Mega-Fug.
>>30424123
>>30424534
>just found out no new megas are in sun and moon
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>30426836
I like this but problem with bodhisvatta/vajrapani type theme is that mega medicham and arceus already kinda have that going on
>>30428192
>belly drum mega snorlax
give him a good ability and/or extremespeed to push him up with mega-fug to be banned together
>>30424123
I hope so but Megas need only be saved for pokemon with no evolution or just overall bad. Girafarig and Farfetch'd for example
Mega Wishiwashi looks like and has the stats of its schooling form, but has an even bigger mega schooling form on top of that.
>>30435133
Like, 5 schools can combine to form voltron
>>30433500
Were they not retconning that?
>>30425109
what's being said
>hmm, we have many pokemon with only a single evolution or no evolutions at all which don't get much play because they're weak shitmon
>what possible solution could we come up with?
>giving them an evolution to bring them up to speed would be silly, lets invest this thing called mega evolution
>let's give every legendary, and most pseudo-legendary, oh and a bunch of 3 stage evolution pokemon a mega evolution
Fuck Gamefreak.
>>30435124
Would Farfetch'd trade in his leek for a tanto or something?
>>30424914
fire/psychic for magmortar because the revolution magmortar has psychic
>>30428439
>Mega Toxicroak
Yes, please, yes
My bro already got a mega this generation.
>>30425607
Gas Phatmon now
>>30435341
A crude bamboo kendo sword
Mega Corsola
>Branches on it over grow and encase it's body in coral a la Tangela but worse
Mega Unown
>They are lowercase letters
>>30433367
I was under the impression the meteor simply didn't exist in the RSE universe. The problem was that the Mossdeep guys in ORAS were going to send it "away", not knowing it would end up hitting a different Hoenn in a different universe.
But the meteor was Deoxys and broke apart and everything was fine, so it didn't need to be sent away.
>>30435506
>not wingdings
>>30424123
Honestly a lot of the starters could use Megas, especially gens 2 and 7.
>>30435427
I was upset he didn't have a Mega formIf he did, he would be Missingno
>>30435562Conversion and Normalium-Z makes it a custom sweeper of your preferred type, with the ability to bulk and outspeed almost everything for a one-turn setup. I'm pretty happy with the results.
>>30425607primal mega rayquaza
>>30435515
You're right
Mega Arceus gets +20 in all stats besides HP and the ability Omnitype, which makes it all types at the same time, Judgement picks whatever type the target is weakest to.
Mega Silvally does the same thing, but it's Advanced RKS System just works like Protean, Multi-Attack picks the type the target is weakest to.
>>30435422
lmao
>>30426256
It better either keep swift swim or gain enough speed to make up for losing it
>>30428860
>>30429020
>not superior Tough Claws Weavile
>>30435854
Calling it Omnitype is fine, but it would probably be simpler to have Arceus become typeless itself and keeping what you said about Judgment auto-correcting to what the target is weak to. If Arceus was actually every type, then its own weakness calculations would get too complicated and it would have STAB on every move. Having a move always hit super-effectively and not having weaknesses on top of the stat boost would probably be broken, but you don't get STAB on anything else, so that would be... something, at least.
>>30435854
>become all types at once
>gain 8 immunities, immunity to all statuses except non-grass induced sleep, and four resistances
>still weak to stealth rock
>>30424123
>ctrl f
>no Hydriegon, Mienshao, or Darmanitan
Does every one here have shit taste?
>>30435854
>every move is supereffective
>every move gets STAB
>give it an expert belt
>2 * 1.5 * 1.2 = 3.6x multiplier on judgement
>7.2x for anything with a double weakness
At that point why even bother having any attacking move except judgement. 3 slots for status moves is the cherry on top of this broken-ass mega.
>>30436209
Well if anything should be completely fucking busted and banned from everything forever, it should be the super mode of god
>>30426168
Still the best fan mega I've seen. It's so simple, but it'd be insane gameplay-wise
>>30424123
>Gen 1 introduces version exclusives
>Electabuzz and Magmar
>Gen 2 introduces Baby Pokemon
>Elekid and Magby
>Gen 4 has a bunch of cross-generational evolutions
>Electivire and Magmortar
>Gen 6 introduces Megas
>these two are forgotten about
Why?
>>30436328
Eh, you could say something like that for a lot of pokemon. e.g.
>Gen 1 introduces Chansey
>Gen 2 introduces friendship to evolve to Blissey
>Gen 4 introduces new evolution methods to evolve the baby pokemon Happiny
>>30432540
>252+ Atk Huge Power Regigigas Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Groudon-Primal: 404-476 (100.2 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>>30436328
Damn, that's kind of depressing.
Megas and now Alolan forms have a lot of weird gaps in otherwise grouped up mons though. Like Mega Gallade made a counterpart for Gardevoir, but then Glalie gets a Mega and Froslass nothing. Machamp is kind of the odd one out for early trade evos now too.
>>30426168
Also my favorite fan mega design. My only gripe is I think the four ghostly arms should be coming from the back
>>30436431
Yeah, you have a point. Ninetales and Sandslash get Alolan ice forms, and they were box exclusive to blue. Meanwhile their red counterparts, Arcanine and Arbok, get nothing.
>>30433367
I thought there simply was no meteor in the other dimension and that was what zinnia meant when she said sending one there would doom it
>>30424773
>heracross
Anon... I have some good news for you.
>there wasn't a mega flygon in ORAS
Why Gamefreak?
>>30424123
I want megas to be purged
>>30436495
Well if we somehow do get a sinnoh remake, and sinnoh forms are a thing, what would be a good alt for Arcanine and arbok? Ice/ghost for Arcanine emphasising the guardian spirit and playing off of fairytales' stuff? Steel/Poison for Arbok would be interesting.
I'd hope they'd get Machamp a fighting/steel form that's based that steel cave where all the steelixs are.
Mega starters and Mega Flygon seem to be most likely, especially the latter with how much time they've had to think up of a design.
>>30438071
They didn't have a good design ready in time. Hopefully they've decided on one at this point.
>>30438163
Oh and Mega Johto/Unova starters. Johto because of HGSS and Unova because of SM's island scan.
>>30435562
It would be a realistic bird
>>30433340
Someone has never seen the episode where Ash rides the rapidash, faggot.
Mega Incineroar's ability lets it do a heel turn/face turn from fire/dark to fire/fighting and back.
>>30435337
Except the Gen before they created Eviolite and that made any more cross gen evos a fevered dream
>>30435541
7 is fine for now. Decidueye is versatile, incineroar will be very useful once they get HA. And at least Prim can hit like a truck. Gen 2 are the ones that need it most.
>>30436431
Well Gallade got it a game later. Who's to say Mega Froslass and Slowking aren't coming in a later game?
>>30441727
>gen 7
>fine
Decidueye's stats hurt it a lot, Incineroar would be better with more speed and Primarina is just about useless in every aspect. I agree that gen 2 needs it but the gen 7 starters need it as bad as they do.
>>30441873
Mega Decidueye can have Sniper
>>30428439
>gallade
>not bronzong
>>30435944
ayy
>>30435506
Mega unown gets schooling as ability and we get a form a la movie 3
>>30428612
Noone ever said it was highly likely we would be getting megas in SM you retard. If anything people were saying the opposite
>>30425908
the only valid Flygon Mega is Dragon/Bug with Compound Eyes and Megahorn
>>30430261
>Mach Punch still exists
>>30443471
topkek
>>30436209
Still not broken enough for God...
>Divine Right
>Resist all types. All attacks are super effective, regardless of opponents type.
>always go first
>no charge time or recharge on moves.
I guess could make it semi-balanced, maybe falls asleep after 3 turns..
... but should be 7, cuz god.